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Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 520
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 09:06 am: | 
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He is Black and that is all I care about period.
I don't give a crap if he has funny colored lips, a white mother, and African Father.
I don't give a sh-t if he went to Harvard and has little in common with your typpical African American, including myself.
I don't care if some Black people say that if Obama is so popular amoung white people that he must be bad for Black people -- F'em!
I don't care how little experience Obama has in polictics. I'm sure he is smart enough to surround himself with people who are smarter than he is on the important subject matters. Besides, can he be any worse than the due in the position now?
I don't care what anyone says. I don't care about any of the dirt the Clinton campaign will dig up. I don't care.
I don't care what any of the other so called Negros, who are in bed with Barack's opponents, say. I'm still viting for Obama. I'm even registering as a democrat just so I can vote in the primary.
I don't care if this is completely irrational. I really don't. I want a Black man in the white house. I want little Black boys to believe it when someone says, "you can be anything you want to be -- even president of the United States".
I do care that is why I'm voting for Obama.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 8306
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 09:57 am: |
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Troy,
DITTO! And SCREW what everyone else thinks!
HAHAHAHAHA!!! |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4362
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 10:03 am: |
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I'm voting for the best (wo)man for the Job.
As far as 2008 and this issue is concerned...I'm "colorblind."
Tonya |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 8308
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 11:39 am: |
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Tonya,
We never REALLY know who's "the best (wo)man for the Job" of being president until YEARS after they've taken the oath of the office.
And even THEN, the shyt can be iffy.
Tonya. Why don't you be honest and admit you'd RATHER vote for anyone other than a Black man, be he of African or American extraction? |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3601
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 11:43 am: |
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He is Black and that is all I care about period.
(I can't believe you can post this. Would you support him if his name was Joe Willie and he lived in Brooklyn and had gold teefus and wore his pants sagging?
Of course not. You are not supporting him because he is black. You are supporting him because he is black and he is a "better class of Negro"--he went to Harvard and was editor of the Law Review and he is so well spoken and clean--
None of these things, by the way, means squat as to whether he is fit to be President.
He is not.)
I don't care if some Black people say that if Obama is so popular amoung white people that he must be bad for Black people -- F'em!
(What if they are right? It makes no difference if this Negro would order you and your family into the cattle cars for the last ride to the death camps as long as he is black and went to Harvard?
You are better than this, man. Take a chill pill and think)
I don't care if this is completely irrational. I really don't. I want a Black man in the white house. I want little Black boys to believe it when someone says, "you can be anything you want to be -- even president of the United States".
(Of course, this is bs. on several counts.
For one thing, unless you have 200 million dollars and you are acceptable to the group that really runs this nation, The Military/Industrial/Political/Financial/Intellligence Complex, you cannot even think about running for President.
How many little black boys and girls will this describe?
Secondly, though to powerless negroes shivering over their keyboards and worrying about the rent the President is nothing more than a glorified orphan boy for these people and people in the Media, the Religious establishment, and the oil industry.
I cannot believe the 21st Century has dawned and Negroes are still thinking like this.
The day a Negro sits in that White House, most Negroes in this country will come to rue the day.
But don't get excited.
He will not even be on the ballot.
This is just a thang, like Jessie Jackson did in 1988, to get black folks excited and registered and voting for whoever the real (white) candidate is.
Sit down. Take some deep breaths and realize where you are and what time it is.
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Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 690
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 11:55 am: |
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well i know for me its not about him being a black man.
i would seriously like to vote for him because i would like a black in office but then i dont know if we can trust him just yet...alot of people get in office and make a complete turn around once elected. ...plus there is not enough known about him....
foreigners dont usually understand the plight of african americans....they are usually conservative in their views on racism and think most things in this country are peaches and creame when it comes to race. they usually think blacks omplain too much. ....at least i know what hillary is all about and i KNOW what she will do for blacks and the downtrodden..we need hillary to get things back right again.
now if i knew what obama was really about and knew for sure that he understood what's needed to level the playing firled in terms of blacks i would vote for him.if i had experience with him i would probably vote for him |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 8311
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 11:56 am: |
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Misty,
You're going to trust WHITE foks to do more for Blacks than you would a Black man who, by both his record AND his rhetoric, has been a active/faithful supporter and contributor to Black people and causes?
What the hell has Hillary Clinton done for Blacks other then shake them down for votes and use them to build her and Bill's profile and standing? |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3603
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 11:58 am: |
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Besides, you already had a Black Man in the White House (at least that's what Toni Morrison said) and he double crossed all his friends and couldn't keep it in his pants in the Oval Office.
The country has had enough. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 691
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:18 pm: |
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Hillary leans farther to the left....if you listen to obama's speeches he leans farther right than hillary...he is a bit too conservative for me (and he may be even more conservative in his views than he lets on to be being that he's foreign).
plus ask yourself why so many whites like him and think they can trust him?
hillary on the other hand...whites despise her because she's ultra liberal and she stands for everything most whites are against. which is helping the black, the poor, the woman and the down trodden
she was basically the brains behind bill clinton...when they were in office the budget was nearly balanced and minimum wage was higher. that mainly affected black people....interest rates were lower (which again affects blacks and the poor in a more positive way)...they also fixed it to where blacks would get a failry decent job and not jsut spend their entire lives on welfare. when there were in office there was more money going towards social programs to help black youth and the poor. it took bush less than a year to destroy all of that. |
Misty
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Post Number: 692
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:19 pm: |
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hillary was way more radical than bill clinton |
Misty
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Post Number: 693
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:21 pm: |
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whoever whites despise the most is usually your biggest ally |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4367
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:52 pm: |
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Abm,
quote:Tonya. Why don't you be honest and admit you'd RATHER vote for anyone other than a Black man, be he of African or American extraction?
Ah, nah, bruh…we're gonna get this thing real right now cuz youze a liar.
SHOW ME A BLACK MAN!!!...
(I mean one with true convictions that I believe in.)
...I BET I'D MAKE A LAIR OUT OF YOU RIGHT NOW.
Infact had A BLACK MAN ever made a run for office, I could have made a liar out of you long ago...
For now, tho, since some serious bred and butter issues are at stake, I couldn't care less about making a liar out of you or anyone else. Sorry if this hurts your feelings. Though it’s been a long time since a Black man or white man running for office have worried about my feelings getting hurt.
...And THAT THERE is the way it really is my brother. |
Latina_wi
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Username: Latina_wi
Post Number: 95
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:53 pm: |
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Troy I think it is cool you are voting for Obama. Reason being, your comment about you 'not caring tat he went to Harvard'. These are the blacks we should be supporting, the ones who did well. So young black men and boys can look up to these men and aspire to emulate them.
LOL, I am FREAKED OUT by Obama's lips though. They frighten me. |
Misty
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Post Number: 694
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:57 pm: |
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"(What if they are right? It makes no difference if this Negro would order you and your family into the cattle cars for the last ride to the death camps as long as he is black and went to Harvard?"
i agree......that's what got clarence thomas where he is today just so he could get up there and be harder and more cold-blooded towards his own people than alot of white folks.. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3604
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:57 pm: |
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Hillary and Bill Clinton:
Ask Ricky Ray Rector, Lani Guineer, Sistah Soljah, Jocelyn Elders, Deval Patrick, Ron Brown--oop! Can't. They bumped him off, didn't they? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7207
Registered: 01-2004
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Chrishayden offers a very good rebuttal to Troy's blanket endorsement of Obama. Were I a romantic, I would be asking myself if the stars came together in a fortuitous pattern at the moment of Obama's birth? Is he an idea whose time has come? Is his ascendency his destiny - or his doom? And is there some kind of poetic justice in a man of African descent with a Muslim name mesmerizing white America? The whole situation has dramatic Shakespearean overtones and there is a certain relevancy in the quote from Julius Caesar, which reads: "There is a tide in the affairs of men, which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune; Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound by shallows and in misery." And of course there's the more familar observation about "how the man can make the office, or the office can make the man". Alas, - I remain undecided. I'm awaiting a sign from the gods. In the meantime good luck, Barak, in kicking the cigarette habit. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3605
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:59 pm: |
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"(What if they are right? It makes no difference if this Negro would order you and your family into the cattle cars for the last ride to the death camps as long as he is black and went to Harvard?"
i agree......that's what got clarence thomas where he is today just so he could get up there and be harder and more cold-blooded towards his own people than alot of white folks..
(Say it again.
Maybe if they keep kicking Colored Folks in the butt one day the message will reach their brains |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3606
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:59 pm: |
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Cynique:
Sometimes you amaze me. |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 3402
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Troy - I love your passion, but you are putting the cart before the horse. Obviously you can't vote for Obama if he doesn't run. First he has to run, then he must gain the Dem's nomination, then you can cast your vote for him as your next POTUS.
I haven't made up my mind. But I found out something very negative and disturbing about Obama in the past couple of days - he is a smoker and I'm not down with that. As a matter of fact, I do NOT associate with anyone who smokes those nasty ass cigarettes (the smell makes me ill) and I don't think I would vote for someone who smokes. I don't believe that anyone who loves themselves and their children would even put a cigarette to their mouth. Plus it demonstrates to me a lack of self-discipline.
And I don't know if I'd vote for someone simply because they are Black. That seems too much like the blind leading the blind. My candidate would actually require some substance. Not just skin tone.
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Tonya
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Post Number: 4369
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 01:19 pm: |
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Chris:
quote:Cynique: Sometimes you amaze me.
Damn, me too. And I agree with her. Your post was right on the money! |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3609
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 01:40 pm: |
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After the pathetic showing of the Senate this week, all Senators are off the table far as I am concerned.
There are no more Mr. Smiths!
Bring on the Generals and Admirals. |
Abm
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Post Number: 8313
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Do you ALL even KNOW Obama's record as a federal and IL State legislature, as an community activist and organizer, particularly with respect to how it benefits foks like yourself?
Are you going to at least ATTEMPT to divine such?
Or have you already - BEFORE the campaigning begins in earnest - reached the conclusion that because he's just another evil Black man (one who has a very Black wife and daughters, btw) who, by genetic coding, is pathologically incapable of thinking and acting in concert with the better interests of yours and people like you?
By every standard of measurement - INCLUDING those of the GOP - Obama's been a most PROGRESSIVE lawmaker and advocate. And to presume he'd suddenly become something else would also require you to ALSO disbelieve the predictability of the record and promises that his COMPETITORS present and assert (and that INCLUDES those of your favored so-called nikka-loving Hillary Clinton). |
Yvettep
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Maybe if they keep kicking Colored Folks in the butt one day the message will reach their brains
And what message would that be?
How about the one about the crab fisherman who never needs to put a cover over the barrel...he knows no crab will ever get to the top because all of them will just keep pulling each other back down.
I encourage all of you who think Obama is some sort of closet Clarence Thomas to continue to do your research. I doubt you will think that when you read his books, go over his voting record, listen to his speeches. I hope you are sincere in finding out more about his potential candidacy. I hope you will apply these same standards to and be equally suspicious of any other candidate.
Afterall, the last thing we need in this day and age is a bad case of crabs (heh-heh LOL) |
Cynique
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Such hyperbole; such rabidly inaccurate accusations. People are, after all, entitled to wait and see before they make up their minds about who they vote for. Are you familiar with the voting record of John Edwards, ABM?? |
Abm
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Post Number: 8314
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Yvettep,
Can you believe these people?
Obama is about as close to being Clarence Thomas as Jesse Jackson is to being Grand Marshall in a Ku Klux Klan parade.
Awhile a go I offhandedly discarded Kola's concerns about African Americans supporting Obama. But this sh*t here proves how (once AGAIN) that crazy African chick knows us BETTER than we know our own bootlickin' selves. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 7213
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 02:03 pm: |
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I repeat, ABM, such inaccurate exaggerated accusations you make. And did I mention such a proliferation hot air. The presidential election is months off and anything can happen. Not everbody impulsively jumps on a bandwagon. Taking one's time about making a decision is not synonymous with endorsing Hillary Clinton, a conclusion you seem to have reached in your blind devotion to Barak. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3612
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 02:24 pm: |
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ABM:
And once Bill Clinton demonstrated for peace and once he got in office he bombed women children and old men in the Sudan and Serbia.
What they did before they became POTUS doesn't mean a damn thing.
You need to stop reading those Captain America comix before it is too late. |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4370
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quote:I hope you are sincere in finding out more about his potential candidacy.
No. It's more like "[EVERY CANDIDATE'S] potential candidacy."
quote:I hope you will apply these same standards to and be equally suspicious of any other candidate.
Because Blacks are not suspicious of white political candidates...LOLOLOL!!
We're debating whether he should get A FREE PASS simply for the color of his skin. I'm sure other candidates would sell their children to be included in such. |
Doberman23
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i am going to vote for him because i feel that he is the best candidate, i wouldn't ever vote for alen keys and he's black. i'm not saying that because he's republican either i wouldn't vote for alan keys because he seems like a little beotch. so i have to always factor in the beotch factor. if clinton could run again (bill) and he was going against obama, well let's just say o-dawg wouldn't get my vote. i happen to like him better than all other candidates hillary, mccain, edwards, julie ann knee, and i dont even know who else is running. troy you gotta be careful with your way of thinking because if being black is all that matters then you should never complain about clarence thomas like figures who would pay top dollar to get michael jacksons bleaching cream secrets. |
Tonya
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Abm, where are you getting your information? I don't recall anybody on this or any other thread writing anything close to some of the crap you're spewing.
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Abm
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Post Number: 8316
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Let's cut the sh*t and be real and plain here about ALL of the current crop of presidential candidates who are NOT named Barak Obama:
@ John Edwards - Millionaire shyster attorney who essentially bought his way in being a Senator in podunk South Carolina. But then could NOT even deliver the state to John Kerry during the 2004 presidential election. His former Senate seat was immediately claimed by the GOP and his standing in SC is such that he couldn't reclaim his former position in the Senate if he tried. The SMARTEST person in his household is his WIFE, Elizabeth. He needs to get the fuhk out of her way and tend to their kids while SHE runs for president. 'Cause, unlike him, I'd SERIOUSLY consider voting for HER.
@ John McCain - Got in the Senate and maintains esteem PRIMARILY because he was a POW. Has an interesting legislative record but is a war HAWK who's inclined to get us even DEEPER into that shyt in Iraq than we already are in. And inspite of his defiant postering, his actual congressional VOTING record is as conservative as most you'll find in the Senate.
@ Joseph Biden - Solid Democrat and overall a smart, engaging and charismatic man who's just busting to say the dumbest shyt that'll come to his mind. And that don't even include his inclination to fabricate sh*t about his history via lifting parts of OTHER mofo's biographies. Bidens living proof of how its what you AVOID saying can say MORE about you than what you do say.
@ Hillary Clinton - Boringa$$, wooden women who couldn't spell Charisma if you spotted her Charis. Help elect and steward a profoundly MEDIOCRE presidency, one in which the only thing we recall of it is welfare reform, sperm-stained, cigar-cQQchie interns and that it provided a near PERFECT prelude to the presidency of George Bush. Of course, the ONLY dayam reason she's even in the Senate is because she faithfully played the Stand By You Mayne role through that Lewinski fiasco. And she signed off on and continues to support a war that by EVERY decent measure is a wholesale catastrophe (Can't risk pissing off so many gun-totting, Arab-hating hillbillys that it fuhks up my becoming the first 'MADAME' President.).
Oh. I know Black foks don't want me to mention all of the Black foks the Clintons fuhked over while Bill was in office (Lani Gaunier, Dr. Jocelyn Elders, Ron Brown, Ron Espy, etc.). That's why I didn't mention any of that. |
Abm
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Chris: "And once Bill Clinton demonstrated for peace and once he got in office he bombed women children and old men in the Sudan and Serbia...What they did before they became POTUS doesn't mean a damn thing."
It THAT is true, that one's prior acts is NOT a good predictor of future behavior, why should we be any MORE critical or suspicious of what Pres. Obama does than we are or what Pres. Hillary Clinton or Pres. McCain does? |
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