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Chrishayden
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Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2008 - 10:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

John McCain and Sarah Palin?

Or Bill and Hillary Clinton?
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Carey
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Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2008 - 11:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know, Chris, why don't you tell us.
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Cynique
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Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2008 - 02:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

John McCain and Sarah Palin are probably angry and Bill and Hillary sad. The first 2 put up a tough fight and lost. The last 2 never made it to the finals.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:51 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know, Chris, why don't you tell us.

(Cuz I don't know, either. In my view, it is probably a tossup.

Both McCain and Hillary and Bill know that, failing a total Obama meltdown or other calamity, it is probably curtains as far as the Presidency is concerned.

Palin, on the other hand, is just getting started)
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:52 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe I should call that race baiting two headed monster "Billary" or "Hillbilly"
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Cynique
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe you should just call it "quits" and leave Bill and Hillary alone to get on with their lives, chrishayden. She seems rather philosophical about the whole situation, makin such comments as "we don't always get what we want in life", and in reference to her still being a Senator from NY, that she will endeavor to be a person who blooms where she is planted.
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Yvettep
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would think that the Clinton's have mixed feelings, but that in general they are happy with this election outcome. In the case of the former President, Obama's campaign--especially in the last couple of months--did a lot to redeem his image and give hima a better shot at a much different legacy. (Of course, a Clinton "dynasty" embodied by his wife's election would have done even more for this, but I am talking about "Plan B"...)

P.E. Obama was able to focus on the economic situation of the country during BC's presidency, contrasting it with the last 8 years. By running a fairly drama-free campaign in terms of personal behavior, he robbed the GOP of the opportunity to paint him as morally lax and remind voters about BC's own lapses.

I suspect that for both BC and Sen Clinton, they recognize that, although still relatively young, they are now "elders" within the Democratic party and must now decide whether they want to try to find a place for themselves within it. Many of the old Dem divide and conquer strategies did not seem to work this time. The old centralized "party machine" strategy seems to have been replaced with a strategy employing new technology and old fashioned feet on the ground, decentralized to all 50 states.

I will be interested to see what Sen Clinton does, especially given the apparent contrasts between herself and Gov Palin. Of course I am sure she is bittersweet. But I find it hard to believe that she would have preferred that Obama lose to Sen McCain. That would have meant that the GOP strategy to capture her loyal female voters with the Palin pick bore fruit, and I am not sure she would have been pleased with that: It would have meant, not that Sen Clinton herself was special, but that any old woman would do.

I doubt that she would have wanted that as a part of her legacy.

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