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Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 10214
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 02:22 pm: | 
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I think it's safe to assert that you and I were amongst the very FIRST foks here who fully supported, promoted and BELIEVED in Obama becoming elected president.
Any of you doubters (and haters) can check the archives!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 832
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2008 - 09:00 am: |
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Abm-
Bravado. You are absolutely one of the first people I saw who truly believed in Prez Obama.
I remember your words to the effect that we should "believe" and how cool it would be to have a black family in the WH. Good looking out
Until the very end I had my doubts Prez Obama would be elected.
I was a major skeptic/pessimist/nonbeliever.
Lesson learned. |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1586
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 06:53 pm: |
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Abm that would be an accurate statement.
I'll make another statement that people will probably disagree with, and that is: We Have Overcome.
Robynmarie, a lot of smart people were in your camp. In my mind it just tells me how little faith some of us have in this country.
In 25 years most of the remaining old school red neck racists will be dead.
Think about the little children who are say 5 or 6 years of age. When they are teenagers, after a two term Barack presidency, they will not likely know a world without a Black president...
Indeed, those same little Black boys and girls may not know a world where they believe their options are limited due to race.
We Have Overcame Today |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 836
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 09:21 pm: |
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Now if we could just elect a woman some day soon ... |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1587
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 10:57 am: |
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Robynmarie, I see a woman as POTUS in our future too. It will just not be a woman like Hillary or Palin. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13046
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 12:31 pm: |
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You guys can take credit for having confidence in an Obama victory, Troy, but most black folks were in his corner and hoped he would in. We just didn't have faith in white voters.
I still think Hillary Clinton would've made a competent president. As we learned from this campaign, you cannot judge people by the company they keep. I also think she has been gracious in defeat. I know she's heartbroken but she has put on a brave face and been loyal to the Democratic party. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 1348
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 01:11 pm: |
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Hey Cynique, I'm glad you said most people. Because there's a large black fellow running around in here with his mouth poked out. Someone on the board called him Chicken Little, you know, "The sky's falln" down! The sky's fallin' down!". I think he lives in St. Louis  . |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1591
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 03:24 pm: |
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Carey, I tink the gentleman from the great state if Missouri did eventually come around.
Cynique, there were too many of us in Clinton's corner for my liking. I'm most disturbed by foks like Rangel and other NY State Dems that supported Clinton over Obama.
Today if you walk through Harlem you see campaign posters showing Rangel and Obama (Obama's name in a subordinate position) as if Rangel was a supporter. Now when it is in his personal self interest he supports Obama.
Yes, I had MORE faith in the average white person than I did my local Black politicians.
Deep in my heart
I do believe
That we have overcome
Today! |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13056
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 01:01 pm: |
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The fact that there were black people who were exercising their free will by not automatically being in the fold for Obama is what the America that you have so much faith in is all about, Troy.
As for Rangle, - he's an example of a "good politician", a phrase which is, of course, is an oxymoron. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 10222
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 05:17 pm: |
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Robynmarie,
Thanks! And that's okay. President-elect Obama has taught this entire nation (and world) a LOT of lessons over the last 18 months.
I don't know. But I just sorta got a really GOOD feeling about him very EARLY in this thing.
It's hard to explain. But Barack Obama just really LOOKED and FELT like a PRESIDENT to me.
Troy,
My younger sister just had baby a few months back. Just think that he and other back babies have been born into a world where the Leader of the Free World is a BLACK man.
Imagine what THEIR perspective on life is likely to be! |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 839
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 08:39 pm: |
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Troy-
what woman do you think would be electable?
Both clinton and Palin are popular within their own parties but don't have crossover appeal. |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1600
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 - 05:33 pm: |
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ABM, many young children if Obama serves two terms will reach their teenage years not knowing a time were the POTUS was not black.
Robynmarie, I can't think of a viable woman candidate off the top of my head -- but I'm sure she is out there.
There are those who are talking about a Michele Obama Presidency... though that seems unlikely to me. |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1602
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 - 06:09 pm: |
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Cynique, you are of course right; Black folks were indeed exercising their free will -- their rights -- by supporting Hillary Clinton over Obama.
But you have to know that the Black politicians were supporting Clinton because of their own self interests. Many Black people were misled by these politicians into not supporting Obama.
Part of Obama's appeal is that he is clearly not a tool of these self-serving Black politicians, or the Clinton machine.
But honestly Cynique, it boggles my mind that Black people would consider, for even a millisec, to not vote for a viable Black man for presidency. I liken that to the individual who fashions his own back door if one is not available (as described by Carter G. Woodson). |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13088
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 12:02 am: |
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I understand where you're coming from, Troy. And, of course, you can't fathom why a black woman might prefer another woman for president over a black man. You're not a woman.  |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1605
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 05:40 pm: |
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You know the lowest spade beats 3 outta 4 Queens. Race should trump sex, should it not? |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13095
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 08:52 pm: |
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Ideally, good qualifications should transcend race and sex. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 10238
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 05:35 pm: |
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What I didn't get about the early kneegrow backlash against Obama was so MANY of us fed into and fed upon a lot of outright LIES about the man without so much as even trying to READ one dayam CREDIBLE thing about the man.
Because plenty of White foks liked him, foks figure he MUST somehow be in league with the devil. Which didn't make a dayam bit a sense to me seeing as all the foks he was running against were WHITE.
I mean, even if what they were what they were saying about him was true, who's worst for Black foks: The Devil's helper or the the dayam DEVIL him/herself? |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13100
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 11:27 pm: |
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What were some of the terrible things so many Black folks said about Obama, other than to lament that he wasn't a descendant of slaves???? Or, for womanists, that he wasn't a female?
Did great numbers of Blacks really disparage him or were they just not audacious enough to hope? |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1606
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 10:25 pm: |
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Cynique, I believe your "ideal" conditions were met on this occasion. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13108
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 11:58 am: |
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I agree, Troy. |
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