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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 7566
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 02:41 am: | 
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Exactly 13 years to the day that O. J. was acquitted...an all-white jury found O. J. guilty on all (12) counts http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iUNgbOr-2bnpFUX0MiII6je2CkRAD93JGAUO0 |
Carey
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Post Number: 1240
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:59 am: |
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HE DIDN'T DO IT! |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7462
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:05 am: |
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He didn't do the murders of Goldman and Nicole--
He might have HAD them done--
But he CERTAINLY KNEW WHO DID IT and wouldn't tell and so he won the prize
This was the top News Story in St. Louis this morning--ahead of the Bailout, the Presidential Elections, the Debate, Iraq
So the worst crime is A NEGRO KILLING A WHITE WOMAN
OJ, by the way, was set up on this one, but he was too stupid to realize that his acquittal on the murders was a life changing event, meaning he had to get out of dodge, and not be hanging around Vegas dating white women...
Oh well, it is no loss to us, and a valuable cautionary tale to those who will heed it... |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3426
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 06:27 pm: |
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He was guilty in both cases. He just couldn't get away with it this time. Oh well..... |
A_womon
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Post Number: 2402
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:54 pm: |
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Simpson shoulda kept a low profile and tried to live a normal life with the second chance he was given. Instead he chose to do stupid, stupid things to keep himself in the headlines, finally allowing himself to be caught up in this latest fiasco... he gets no sympathy from me! Not one drop!
I just feel sorry for his kids once again. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3427
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 05:08 am: |
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Agree. This Negro was so cocky and arrogant he thought he could continue to clown and act as if he would never have to pay for what he did. Too bad...too sad. His time has come and he has no one to fault but himself. It's a done deal now. Besides, he never paid the lawyers for getting him off the first time. He thought he was untouchable. Not this time..... |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 1241
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:16 am: |
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It ain't over. Hey, the man was just trying to get his shyt. He didn't do it, neither one. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3428
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 03:10 pm: |
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Carey
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Post Number: 1242
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 06:19 pm: |
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Am just saying *lol*. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7468
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 10:09 am: |
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It ain't over. Hey, the man was just trying to get his shyt.
(He don't HAVE no shyt no more. He is O.J. Simpson. His lust for white women and the spotlight blinded him to this fact--and his stupidity)
He didn't do it, neither one.
(He didn't do the first one. But this one, though he was set up, he did.
He might get off on appeal. It is obvious he did not receive a fair trial and blacks were illegally excluded from the jury--
--and anybody wanting to cite the explanations of the jurors please spare us. They knew what they had to do if they wanted to remain a member of the white community.
He was lynched. Denial of Due Process. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 1243
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 11:42 am: |
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"Blacks were illegally excluded from the jury"
That's a bold state, I mean can you prove that? Is that a fact or is that a black man taking privilege to something that rarely floats.
I am not saying he did or didn't get a fair trail, but is it wise to argue a point that can't hold water.
What's with this spotlight thang. It wasn't like the man was doing a reality show. What spotlight was he shining. Look, the man was judged not guilty ...he's not required to live in a cave the rest of his life. Now that's denial of due process. Again, there was no proof that the man killed anyone or had anything to do with the crime. It's pure speculation. So please, what yawl standing on. If it's rooted in his lust for white women then all you negros should run for the hills and take that hate with you. If your kitchen is dirt your heart and house is too. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7472
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 11:50 am: |
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That's a bold state, I mean can you prove that? Is that a fact or is that a black man taking privilege to something that rarely floats.
(Now come on, Carey. You are arguing for the sake of arguing, aren't you?) |
Carey
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Post Number: 1246
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 12:37 pm: |
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Am just sayin *lol*
Now come on Chris, am playing your game baby (Barry White)  . |
A_womon
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Post Number: 2404
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 05:13 pm: |
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Look, quit defending an idiot. WHO in the HEYALL but a fool would fall for any type of set up this late in damn LIFE?
White man:
Hey OJ I know you don't know me, but they have your shit over in this hotel room, but dont sweat it, I got us some guns and we You and You thats what I mean by we, is going in there and take your shit back.
OJ Ok man, what kinda guns you got and where should I meet you?
White man: No bro, I'll bring the rope, and Goldman will have the camera to hang your ass. You just be ready to roll when I get there.
OJ: Ok man, that sounds like a plan!
SHEESH! WHO would fall for some old dumb ass shit like this????? |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3429
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 05:49 pm: |
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"He didn't do the first one. But this one, though he was set up, he did."
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3430
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 05:50 pm: |
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"SHEESH! WHO would fall for some old dumb ass shit like this?????"
Chris, Carey and OJ.......... |
Carey
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Post Number: 1251
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 06:09 pm: |
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*LOL* @ Ntfs ...that was a good one.
But I am tellin' yawl, it ain't over, cream comes to the top. Besides, we don't have to defend him. He has already been found innocent of the first crime ...done deal.
See, yawl don't believe fat meat is greasy. The man said he didn't know anything about no guns. And look, the boy with the tape recorder got big bucks. Everybody got paid except O.J. Now that's robbery. Come on you guys, the man just took along a few friends so the bad guys wouldn't jump on him. Now that's the real story.
yawl can believe what you want but the boy was set up. You wait, more will be revealed. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3432
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 08:54 pm: |
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"Everybody got paid except O.J. Now that's robbery. Come on you guys, the man just took along a few friends so the bad guys wouldn't jump on him. Now that's the real story.
yawl can believe what you want but the boy was set up. You wait, more will be revealed."
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Yvettep
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Post Number: 3228
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 09:37 am: |
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Let me ask some of you this: Had Simpson been found not guilty on these latest counts, would you have seen this as a victory for Black folks? For the criminal justice system generally? Why is this man still being treated by some like some sort of poster child for racial justice? |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 1258
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 10:50 am: |
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Good questions Yvette, let me take off my jokers hat and give my opinion.
Unfortunately, some believe two wrongs make a right. I can assume many people of color have been involved in some sort of criminal injustice or at least knows of others that may have been dealt a bad hand. I think it safe to say the legal system is not kind to the less fortunate, ie, black folk.
Although I have joked about O J's guilt or innocence I have my personal beliefs and will assume they are similar to the popular opinion but that is a moot point. The championing of Mr. Simpson's exoneration could be viewed as a victory for the poor, setting aside race. However, one might ask what victory.
Isn't it much like a spouse that decides to "get even" with their mate after finding out they've had an affair. It only serves to open the divide.
It's a shame that somewhere beneath the issues of race and an unbalanced justice system lays the hurt and pain of lives lost. O J Simpson is a man, his alleged victims were loved family members. The justice system is simply that, a system that at times swings in the wrong direction. The two have been thrown into a larger mix and the PRODUCT is unjust.
Carey
Carey |
Disciple724
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 07-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 11:14 am: |
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I can only offer that the European influence on our culture has caused us to see ourselves as a "color" not as individusl beings. As such, we generally live certain aspects of our lives vicariouly through others like us in many way; often overlooking our differences. The irony is O.J dosen't see himself as black anymore, except when it suits him to be so. |
Carey
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Post Number: 1260
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 11:39 am: |
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Disciple, I don't wish to lose site of Yvettes question but man, why would youu say something that has no basis...no facts.
That's not like youu to make a statement like "O.J doesn't see himself as black anymore".
You haven't talked with O.J or if you have I doubt he told you he didn't view himself as a black man. Damn Disciple, are you not playing into the hands of those that think we should live in a certain "zone" or date only certain types of women. Are his children black? You hurt me with that one!
Here's the begging questions. WHAT is he doing or saying to make you come to that conclusion?
Again Disciple, I am going to ask you to think before you talk. Let's talk facts and not some unsubstantiated assumptions.
Also, in response to your reply to Yvettes question, it's a given that we relate to OJs...yes O Js, but you didn't address the question.
I point this out to you because you've often asked for discussions on other topics. Now it's your oppurtunity to give...."show us" how it's done. You gotta give some to get some! That's old school and it's still true. |
Disciple724
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 07-2008
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 12:43 pm: |
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Carey,
I am just judging from his behavior. What black man given the history of our race and the police would parade around taunting them in some cases unless he was dellusional, thinking that he was above his blackness. You see Micheal, got the message and got his ass out of the country; right. Now he's in Asia tickling little boys botoms with wreckless abandon. O.J should have got the message, and at least toned it down. How many brothers have you ever seen him with? i just sayin |
Disciple724
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 07-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 12:52 pm: |
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Carey,
everything that we know about O.J. comes through the media. As a poker player, you learn read people and their thinking from their behavior, body language, facial expressions, company they keep etc. While this is not empirical evidence, it does have some merit to it. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12921
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 01:05 pm: |
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Is Carey, of all people, lecturing others about making statments based on assumptions instead of facts?? Puleeze.
I think we can deduce certain things about OJ, using his lifestyle as proof of said conclusions; OJ has demonstrated a definitive preference for white women while immersing himself in the world of white celebrity both before and after the murder of his wife.
To champion this pariah as an example of injustice is an insult to all of the innocent black men who have been punished. |
Carey
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Post Number: 1261
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 04:25 pm: |
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Cynique, would you please reference a statement of mine in which I said something and stated it as a fact void of logic and personal experience...I'll be waiting.
Please yawl, so the company we keep is an indication or a sign that we no longer consider ourselves black. If that ain't a bunch of crap.
I had to laugh at using Micheal Jackson as an example!
Again Disciple, where have you seen OJ? You know as well as I there is no way in hell OJ does not include blacks in his circle of friends. You guys are throwing soft balls...corn puffs.
You guys have been way to easy today... "OJ immersed himself in the world of white celebrity". Here again is an example of talking before one thinks. When and if you've seen OJ, what "black" celebrities would you've prefered he be seen with?
Now OJ is a pariah? WTH, where did that come from? Cyn-Cyn, could you explain why he is an insult to all the innocent black men who have been punished?
You guys seem to be wrestling with facts. Spin around a few times. Maybe you can shake your hatred of OJ and deal with what's real. It's not a popular position but somebody gotta suck it.
Cynique, you should apply for a job on Palins writing staff. Your stuff fits perfectly with that baseless tribble she allows to escape her mouth. Did I spell that correctly...BASELESS TRIBBLE! |
Disciple724
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Post Number: 202
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 05:02 pm: |
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Carey,
You are a juice fan from way back ain't ya! As I said in post that most of what I know and see about OJ is from the media. Every time I see an image of him, its snowing! i am just sayin.
When was the last time you saw oj in public with someone ( except his daughters) black?
Why couldn't he get some of his black friends to help him "get his stuff? I say it's because he don't have any. Carey, have you ever saw O.J at any "Black Affairs"( NAacp, BET, etc.) |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3434
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 05:31 pm: |
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”I think we can deduce certain things about OJ, using his lifestyle as proof of said conclusions; OJ has demonstrated a definitive preference for white women while immersing himself in the world of white celebrity both before and after the murder of his wife. To champion this pariah as an example of injustice is an insult to all of the innocent black men who have been punished.”
Thank you. OJ lived in a self created white world that he very was comfortable with. The only thing black in his life was his shoes, gloves, leather coats and car tires. He had had no dealings with black folks and was the poster child for being nonpolitical or speaking out on major social issues. Numerous professional black athletes criticized him for his muteness and indifference towards major social issues (notably Jim Brown). But regardless, he was well liked and treated very good in the white world.
The raw reality is OJ had no interest nor concern for black folks or his family members. Think not? I suggest you read "I'm Not Dancing Anymore", by O.J. Simpson’s niece, Terry Baker. She painfully details OJ’s inexcusable treatment of his blood relatives (who put him on a pedestal, never criticized or judged him for his blatant slights and stood firm behind the notion of his innocence) and his outrageous disgusting behavior. It was an agonizing read. The man is a fuckin’ slug!!
Simpson lived in a total white world, steadfastly refused to speak about issues concerning blacks, dated nothing but young white blonds and the only blacks he had anything to do with were fellow former pro athletes (e.g. Marcus Allen, Al Cowens, Kellen Winslow). But for the record, I want to be clear about something. I’m not judging him for his predilection for young blonds, his nonpolitical demeanor or his circle of friends. That is a personal matter and he does not have to explain nor defend his preferences. My disgust comes from the fact when he was kicked out of the white world, he immediately played the race card and proclaimed he was a victim of racism. On a trip to England, he stated; “….you are punished from birth in America for being black” (sic). His words –not mine!
Now, all of sudden this Negro was touched by the Holy Ghost of race consciousness!! WTF..??!! WHERE WERE THESE ANGRY COMMENTS ABOUT BEING A BLACK MAN IN AMERICA PRIOR TO MURDERING THOSE TWO WHITE PEOPLE? Why now all the passionate comments about white racism? Why did he suddenly show up at black churches?? Why was he all of sudden embracing black folks for support? HE NEVER DID SO BEFORE!!! AGAIN –WHY THEN??? Very simple -OJ is a self serving opportunistic pathological murderous narcissist and hypocrite who will say and doing anything to further his own ambitions and concerns.
It never ceased to amaze me how Negroes mindlessly clamored around him, passionately proclaimed his innocence and wildly celebrated his acquittal. The same man who would have nothing to do with them....PERIOD! Especially black women. Like Terry Baker said, “….uncle OJ would jump over ten gorgeous black women to get to one dead white one"(sic). Not trying to play the hate card, but why did black women hysterically defend a black man who was very open about his rejection and disdain for them? Just curious…..
Anyway, Cynique, Yvettep and Disciple724, all of your comments were accurate and on the money. They all stood tall in the face of silly Negrousity blather and calculated inane meandering. E’nuff said….. |
Crystal
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Post Number: 453
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 06:43 pm: |
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Carey – why are you doing this? Just instigating huh? Cause you know good and well that OJ should have STFU and STFD years ago!
I blame USC. They brought him down here and dazzled his little head with all these goldilocks throwing themselves on the BMOC and the poor fool has been after them ever since.
Here’s my OJ trial story: I didn’t follow the trial at all so I didn’t and still don’t have a real opinion on if he did it or not but I was leaning towards yeah, he did it. I was working around a bunch of white folks when the verdict came in and I ain’t gonna lie the first thing in my mind was “wow, finally a black man gets away with something white men have been getting away with all along.” I had a grin on my face. But those white folks – they were walking around that office looking all mad and mean like it was their kid that died. I thought it was funny and started to giggle so I closed my office door. After a little while a friend of mine in the office called me on the phone and laughingly asked “what are you doing in there behind the closed door?” and I answered “I can’t talk to you now I’m on the phone with the caterers for the party.” She started cracking up and you could hear her all through the office.
I smile every time I think of the looks on their faces. That is one hated man! |
Carey
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Post Number: 1263
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 06:44 pm: |
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Calculated inane meandering....good stuff.
So, after reading all that supporting data, OJ is still a black man and all that implies.
Nothing...NOTHING you have said or posted will support a statement that "OJ" doesn't see himself as a black man. You even said it yourself! What he does is his business but you flipped it and continued to convict him based on his associations and public image.
Your rebuttlal was strong but lacked proof of his desire not to be black.
Let me make this clear, I may agree with much of whats been said but when you speak about the desires of another man, I encourage you to speak for yourself and frame it in your opinion.
The basis of my objections to what has been written is not rooted in disagreement with the facts but I frequently witness individuals spouting off "emotions" and that ain't "right".
You can call me what you like but if something I've said is incorrect feel free bring that to my attention. I am man enough to stand on mine. I wish I could say that about all that post. Some are simply affraid to voice an opposing view when it is not a common one.
One can always tell when another is standing on shaky ground...they resort to something other than the issue...
So again your robust wordy response was absent of the facts needed to suppost anything other than your opinion. E'nuff said..... |
Carey
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Post Number: 1264
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 07:11 pm: |
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Hi Crystal, I thought we had a pact. Don't be pulling back the curtains on my reasoning to post on this subject *lol*. The kids do get a little heated don't they. That's what I do. I try to spark a little debate evenn though I may agree with them. No one ever asked me if I really thought OJ commited all the crimes of which he's been accused. I have on several occasions voiced my opinions about black men that date nothing but white women. I too have a "real" opinion about his guilt. I too can wax on about his desires to disassociate himself from the normal route of other black sports figures but what purpose would that serve. I too can make statements that do not foster a response. I could clip and paste with the best of them. But others do that just fine. Hey, there are "blog" pros that serve all sorts of interests. They search other boards and steal ideas and others comments. They get paid for what they do and their purpose is well defined.
Again, my beef is with individuals that make porous statements and render them as facts. You seldom do that. That's why I still love you . That's why we seldom argue. You have touched a place in my heart that is forever full. You.... wait, I was about to drop your business *lol*.
Anyway, stop calling me an instigator, The truth hurts...as you know. A few of my fellow postees got off the couch on this one. I hope they invited a friend and hit on a few items on the front page so that we can continue to do this thang we do.
I hope your Dodgers run into a group of angry black men...OJ included. All of Chicago went down fast and hard...thanks for the help.
Oh, you don't have to say thank you for..... |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12924
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 12:24 am: |
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Does it occur to you, Carey, that YOU are assuming that OJ does embrace his blackness? What is your proof? Where are your references? Has Simpson ever spoken out about racism or extolled his blackness or demonstrated his concern for the black struggle or supported black causes?? Have you ever met him or do you know anybody who is acquainted with him??
Your defense of OJ is weak and desperate. You sound like a man in denial.
And you did a hell of a lot assuming during several discussions when you insisted that I hadn't witnessed the effects of drugs or alchohol just because I didn't agree with your know-it-all comments on the subject. |
Carey
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Post Number: 1265
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 01:07 am: |
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Cynique, before I comment on your last post I have to say something that probably is long overdue.
It's been brought to my attention by a few of my friends that I at times cross the line in my rebuttals to you. Some even call them attacks. I have failed to realize that although we use monikers, there are people behind those names. Our spirited debates can become personal yet I've always thought others felt like I and was able to distance themselves from that reality. I mean, I seldom owned many personal attacks at me. As I've said, I don't know you. I've never even seen a picture of you so I wasn't addressing Cynique the person, I was addressing the comments on an Internet board.
I was wrong to think everyone knew I shifted positions to encourage debate.
I too am a widow and didn't stop to think that some comments could disturb memories of our loved ones. I am positive that if I were in your company I would never talk to you the way that I have. I would even slap another in our company for doing so.
One of my friends asked me what happened to that soft sensitive man we used to know. Well, he's still inside me but this non-personal thang we do on the board allows an instigating shyt starter to come out. What is strange though is that you fuel my fire. I don't know if that's your ilk or desire but you seem to push the right buttons and I am off to the races.
I've often told young adults that although they may be right and "win" an arguement with their significant other but at what cost. I tell them that if the other loses, they lose too. If the pain of being wrong disturbs a balance than what's gained in the victory. I've lost something along the way and I'll try to man up and look at the motives behind my behavior.
In short, please forgive my rude and disrespectful behavior. I am glad my mother doesn't read this board. I wouldn't be able to look her in the face. She would probably say "BOY YOU'VE LOST YOUR DAMN MIND".
I need to channel my combative nature into other areas and not direct them at you. Thank you for putting up with my mess for as long as you have. The "STFU" was well deserved.
Carey
Carey |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3435
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 01:24 am: |
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”Does it occur to you, Carey, that YOU are assuming that OJ does embrace his blackness? What is your proof?”
He has none. And I never stated he did not see himself as black. I was very empathic when I stated I could care less about his personal preferences. My disdain stems from him whining and playing the race card when it was convenient and self serving. ONLY AFTER HIS TRAIL, DID HE OPENLY PROCLAIM HIS BLACKNESS OR MAKE PUBLIC STATEMENTS ABOUT RACISM. PRIOR TO THAT –HE NEVER OPENED HIS FUCKIN’ MOUTH! When he realized he had been unanimously ejected him from the white world and when a Tsunami of white scorn and revulsion hit -did he openly embrace his blackness and black people. All of this was after the fact!
”Has Simpson ever spoken out about racism or extolled his blackness or demonstrated his concern for the black struggle or supported black causes??”
No he did not. And that was his personal preference. But again, his sickening hypocrisy came to the forefront “after” being caste from white America. THIS PATHETIC NEGRO NEVER OPENED HIS MOUTH OR MADE ONE WORD OF PROTEST BEFORE HIS TRAIL. There is nothing in Simpson’s history prior to his indictment that supports his interest or concern for black people (and his blood relatives -just ask Terry Baker).
”Your defense of OJ is weak and desperate.”
No doubt! And no amount of dull fallacious and sophistic argumentative drivel can intelligently defend him.
” You sound like a man in denial.”
Ya got that right. End of subject……… |
Ntfs_encryption
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”I blame USC. They brought him down here and dazzled his little head with all these goldilocks throwing themselves on the BMOC and the poor fool has been after them ever since.”
That’s not quite true. When OJ was at USC, he married 18-year-old Marguerite Whitley, his black high school sweetheart (24 June 1967). Simpson was 19 at the time. When he was at USC, he was a young married man with kids. There were no white blond bimbettes in his life at that time. In fact, when he started his pro career with the Buffalo Bills in 1969, they were an established family. OJ and Marguerite moved back to California (he closed out with the San Francisco Forty Niners) in 1977 and it was then that things began to fall apart between the two. Final separation for the on-again-off-again relationship came in 1978 the year after Simpson met 18-year-old Nicole Brown. He and his first wife were officially divorced in 1979 -long after his USC days. So your comment about him being enamored and lusting after white girls in college is not correct. |
Carey
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Poor Ntfs, again you are reaching for straws. It's obvious you have become desperate. Your use of bold print is a lame and vane attempt to give an illusion of right yet you are still wrong. Your smoke and mirror approach is much like a control freak whom forces himself on others by yelling. Settle down, nothing you say or conjure can support the statement that OJ doesn't see himself as black. You have become deluded into thinking you can somehow speak for this man when your own statements support something totally different. Look, you said he surrounded himself with "black" sports figures. What, because they are sports figures their blackness does not count...duh.
There are thousands of individuals that do not speak out about black issues, does Micheal Jordan champion a cause. Oh, he married a black women. Wait, so did OJ.
You are standing in quicksand, don't move to fast but it might be a time to YELL!
I don't how wise it is for YOU to speak about other black men not standing tall. Much of your retoric is filled with disdain for blacks. I wonder who is really in denial. Look son, what you are speaks so loudly I can't hear what you say. And you had the nerve to call me devious. You appear to be standing on the wrong side of a two way mirror, we see you but....
Listen, your vain attempt to hide behind Terry Baker's book was shallow and weak. You said, nothing in her book supports his interests and concern for black people...what. Where did that come from and how does that indict him on charges that he doesn't see himself as black. Please Ntsf, you're fishing in shallow waters, it's muddy.
Lets get something straight. I am not defending any of his actions, I just adamantly disagree with your adorably verbose senseless tribble. Turn that mirror around, you are getting drunk on your own words. You do drink don't you...I can tell. |
Disciple724
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Carey,
What kind of "evidence" would you validate?
secret tape recordings, confessions, what?
The fact is you have bunkered yourself down so tight on this issue and you have the luxury if dismissing anything that we present as "circumstantial".
The "blackness" that I speak of is not the "color" but the condition of being black in America. The prejudices, discriminations, etc. The fact is that many "black celebrities" are excused from these issues because they are idolized for what they do over their essence; but the intuitive ones remain aware that their brothers and sisters still struggle in this biased condition. Some, in many ways, champion the cause for them. Others even exploit it. Some, like OJ, distance themselves from them altogether. The evidence is in their behavior, actions and non-actions. True it is their right to do so, but it is what it is. |
Carey
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Well Disciple, I have to say you've pulled my hold card. Yes, I was riding a wave of you guys have nothing but "circumstantial" evidence.
You trapped me like a rat with this line: The "blackness" that I speak of is not the "color" but the condition of being black in America.
I envyingly applaud you. You skillfully explained my position or lack thereof. However I still do not agree with all your assessments. My biggest problem was with the opening statement of OJ doesn't see himself as black. That is such a closed absolute statement that it begs for arguement and of course I jumped in. But consequently you did a great job of redefining your position. But in a debate one has to be careful not to give the opposing view ammunition and you have on occasions. Case in point, this statement: "Some, like OJ, distance themselves from them altogether". If you are speaking to others that agree with that statement it's fine but it's nevertheless a statement that can be vehemently proven to be not true. Sure, with the limited knowledge we are exposed to (some think it's a total package) one could come to that conclusion BUT I beg to differ.
My man Disciple, I like you. I don't always agree with you but I like your style.
You and Yvette...and others I might add, are smooth. And yet OTHERS...well, not so smooth *lol*. |
Cynique
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I know you have good intentions, Carey, but I am a little taken aback by your condescending approach as you portray yourself as an intimidating knight and me as the hapless little damsel your misguided friends have to defend. Puleeze. You don't overwhelm me. When I dish it out, I am prepared to take it. My responses to you are not pleas for you to take it easy. They are the retaliations of a thick-skinned broad telling you to get your shyt straight.
And your response to NTFS was an example of your not having your shyt together because since you could not effectively rebut his points, you resorted to a personal attack. |
Carey
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You are correct Cyn-Cyn, I always thought you were very resilient, I admire that. Heck, like I've always said, you throw a good punch. Now as for my "misguided friends", in defense of them they were merely speaking from their observations of the tone of the exchanges. They had everyones best interests at heart (I assume).
And yes again, I sort of threw in a few low-blows in my exchange with the kid. Maybe I shouldn't even have said "the kid". But his posts are so emotional I can't help myself.
Having said all that I nevertheless do apologize for being disrespectful. Regardless of my intent, I own those words and I am responsible for any harm they may have created.
Will I cut or resort to personal attacks in the future? I will go with the flow no matter how covertly they are presented. Hey, I was born and rasied in the brair patch, it's in my nature and I am not ashamed to say it. In my heart and mind I've been somewhere and I am not trying to go back there but......
Thick Skinned Broad huh *smile*, can I use that one?
I sort of like The Renaissance Man.
Tell me, am I really a Flannel Mouth Gadabout
*lol*.
Crystal...don't you say a word. |
A_womon
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Quit beggin! Damn! |
Cynique
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Did I ever call you a "Renaissance Man"? I think I said that you, not I, considered yourself to be one. 
And are you referring to NTFS as a "kid". Actually, he has previously identified himself as a middle-aged man who is a veteran of the military. |
Carey
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*LOL* @ A_womon
SHUT UP!
It does smell like that doesn't it. You're right, I am done. The shop is open, thanks for pulling me back. It appears to have done me no good. Why you so nice to me *lol*. |
A_womon
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I dont know...just cuz! |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 3440
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”Poor Ntfs, again you are reaching for straws. It's obvious you have become desperate.”
Desperate? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That’s funny. Why would I need to be desperate? To rebuttal your indignant comatose grandstanding? I don’t think so.
”Your use of bold print is a lame and vane attempt to give an illusion of right yet you are still wrong.”
I’m still wrong? Oh really? I was wrong when I said OJ never spoke to issues of racism until after his trail? I was wrong when I stated OJ’s world was one of virtually all whites? I was wrong when I stated OJ dated white women exclusively? I was providing false information when I said his niece wrote a book about his poor treatment of his blood relatives? I was wrong when I stated OJ embraced the black church after his ejection from the white world? ALL OF THE AFOREMENTIONED IS WRONG AND INCORRECT? I see….. And you can prove all of it is no more than lies and desperate hearsay on my part? Carey, did you know that smoking crack kills brain cells and can create states of denial? You might wanna seriously think about this before writing a response.
”Settle down, nothing you say or conjure can support the statement that OJ doesn't see himself as black.”
Once again –I never said the man does not see himself as a black man.
”You have become deluded into thinking you can somehow speak for this man when your own statements support something totally different.”
Speak for the man? I never proclaimed I was speaking for the man. Where did you get that from? I just simply stated facts that have documented themselves. There is no need to attempt to speak for the man(?). His history and behavior speaks for itself!! What do you not understand???
”Look, you said he surrounded himself with "black" sports figures. What, because they are sports figures their blackness does not count...duh.”
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Talk about desperate! Did I say their blackness does not count because they were former pro athletes? DID I SAY THAT? Carey, once again –please leave the pipe alone!
”Listen, your vain attempt…….”
Vain attempt?? I’m being vain? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! You’re making my case for me. Continue….
” …..to hide behind Terry Baker's book was shallow and weak.”
”I’m hiding behind Terry Bakers book?????” Wow! So now I’m hiding, shallow and weak because Baker wrote a painful book about Simpsons inexcusable treatment of his genetic family? Uh huh……Carey, one more time –please stop the pipe activities before posting. And I’m being nice because I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt by suggesting your imbecilic denial and commentary is chemically produced and not rooted in a congenital problem.
”You said, nothing in her book supports his interests and concern for black people...what.”
What??!! WHO IS BEING DESPERATE NOW??!! No where did I say her book supports or denies (even though she did talk about it –I JUST DID NOT MENTION IT IN MY POST!) his interests and concern for black people!!! SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT! Again, go back and read what I posted and point to a statement where I said; ”nothing in her book supports his interests and concern for black people. I’ll wait…..
”Where did that come from and how does that indict him on charges that he doesn't see himself as black.”
Tsk…tsk….tsk…..You really are struggling aren’t you? Your failed and stunning attempts to deny the obvious while making illusionary groundless accusations, is sad. Never did I say the man does not see himself as black. How many times have I said this? Your rejection of reality and facts coupled with unsubstantiated silly reactionary imputations clearly demonstrates your desperation and detachment from the obvious. Once again –it’s the pipe man! Put it down!!!
Oh yeah, one more thing. When you post in this forum Carey, anything you write about is subject to rebuttal, debate or agreement. That said, you need to stop your emasculated groveling to Cynique. She has been very clear that she is not interested in your whiny wimpy begging and doofus platitudes. Just a suggestion........ |
Carey
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WEEEAAAAK!
Poor Ntfs, is that all you could come up with...you know, the pipe thang. Pick it up man, that pipe thang is played. Put on a hood and run by the block, learn a little game. You sound like a white boy trying to play the dozen. Can you rap to...you know, Vanila Ice style.
What is it man, you just feel like hangin' with a brotha? Do you really talk like that. I mean do you REALLY?
It's gotta be real tuff...
Look at you hiding behind Cyn-Cyn, get your balls out of your pocket. You've taken the White Guurly cry to a new level. Do you REALLY talk like that, I mean at the barber shop or just when you're talkin' with the "bros" *lol*.
Okay man, you got me, you done beat me up real good...not. You hit like a •••••! |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 3442
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 02:11 pm: |
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”Look at you hiding behind Cyn-Cyn, get your balls out of your pocket. You've taken the White Guurly cry to a new level.”
First of all, I don’t have to hide behind anyone. Why should I? I’m not the one struggling to write a readable and coherent post –you are. Secondly, there was nothing you could intelligently rebuttal when I suggested you stop making a fool of yourself groveling and apologizing to someone who has clearly stated they were not interested in your nescient noodlings. What? You mean you never noticed? OMG…..!!!
”Do you REALLY talk like that, I mean at the barber shop or just when you're talkin' with the "bros" *lol*.”
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! I have no idea what you mean. And you’ve never heard me speak. So I have no idea what you are attempting to say. Next…..
”Okay man, you got me, you done beat me up real good...not.”
Naw…naw…naw. Carey, I’m not trying to beat you up or anyone else. Not my thing bro. I only wanted to point out your ridiculous reactionary denials about the behavior of a man that is well documented. But for some strange reason, you felt compelled to dismiss the obvious and construct a specious argument of false personal accusations and senseless counter denials. I called out every single one of your ridiculous comments. You had no intelligent response. Why? You know…..
”You hit like a •••••!”
Whatever. Look bro, I have no reason to disrespect or hurl caustic digs at you unless you elevate the heat. You have every right to question or challenge anything I write. I have no problems with that. But if you are going to do so, it makes sense (at least to me) to not make false accusations and deny reality simply because it strikes an emotional nerve. |
Carey
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Okay Ntsf, we've come full circle.
"hurl Caustic digs"
That's a good one, I like that. But look, although my digs may be of a gutter level, I too did not appreciate your covert approach. Now you could argue your intentions but I was the receiver. When I tried to apologize to Cynique you deemed it as something else. To me, my words to her was much like forgiveness. It's not always intended to soothe the discomfort of the forgiven. "I" had to let that go.
I know or can assume you've been sincere in your apology to another and the affect it has on you when they laugh in your face or pooh-pooh your effort. So again, it had little to do with Cynique and you carried your thang into the house. Yes, she expressed her concerns and that was her right. YOU were out of line which pushed me off my square, hench, my kid remark.
Shut Up A_womon, don't you say a damn word.
As you've said,Ntfs, when someone posts they are open for all sorts of rebuttal or arguement. The type of "rebuttal" is not defined. You have your "script" and I have mine. I will continue do to my thang...accept it, love it or leave it alone, it's your choice. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 3445
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Done........! |
Warmncozy
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Crystal, You might be interested in reading the information on this site. It also has links to the trial's transcripts.
http://www.wagnerandson.com/ |
Warmncozy
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Simpson co-defendant: 'OJ owes me an apology'
The Associated Press
Posted: 11/16/2008 01:27:13 PM PST
LAS VEGAS—A 54-year-old man convicted along with O.J. Simpson for a gunpoint robbery at a Las Vegas hotel room said he is upset that the former football star hasn't apologized for dragging him into the situation.
"O.J. owes me an apology," Clarence "C.J." Stewart told the Las Vegas Review-Journal newspaper from the Clark County jail. "You can't play with a person's life."
Stewart and Simpson are facing the possibility of life in prison when they are sentenced Dec. 5. Stewart was convicted of the same charges as Simpson stemming from the September 2007 confrontation, including armed robbery and kidnapping.
Stewart said he was hurt by an assumption that he and Simpson are close.
"They made it look like we ate breakfast, lunch and dinner together," Stewart said.
Stewart said he has known Simpson about six years through golf and business interactions.
Stewart said he was initially near Simpson at the Clark County Detention Center but the two are now living in different areas.
He says the guards have treated him well and he spends time counseling younger inmates.
"The food isn't great," said Stewart, who said he eats potatoes daily.
Stewart's lawyer has said he plans to appeal to the Nevada Supreme court after Simpson and Stewart are sentenced. Stewart already lost one attempt to get a new trial based on jury misconduct, and was denied multiple attempts to separate his case from Simpson's.
http://www.montereyherald.com/state/ci_11000117 |
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