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A_womon
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 06:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Obama's, list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.
During his elected service he's sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law, **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law, **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law, **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.

In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record according to some who would prefer that this comparison not be made public.
He's not just a talker.
He's a doer.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 06:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Who said Obama didn't have a record? Stop judging others by yourself.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 06:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Welll, you wouldn't have been offended by my remark if you had a good opinion of yourself, a-womon.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"thrill" is hardly the word to use. Or are you a source of "fun". But I'll refrain from elaborating, so you can won't have to try and stop me.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

calm down, calm down. You don't want me to have to call on a certain professional book editor to neutralize your hysteria and put you in your place. Just lay that old script aside and take a deep breath. You'll be fine
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now you can re-post your tirade.
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A_womon
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Call whomever you like. I'm above blackmail. The only thing you could ever neutralize is youR funky denture breath.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not the reaction you counted on HUNH?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black mail??? Does Urban Scribe have anything on you other than - intelligence????
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So THAT's what this is about, hunh? Same old school girl shit! I dissed your girl so you TRYNNA dis me.

Fyuck you and URBAN SCRIBE!
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Cynique
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As a matter of fact that is the response I expected because I know you're trying not to give into your inner child.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You ain't dissed nobody. US and I are cyber acquaintances. Never met or never talked. But I can read posts.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nah chick you got enough inner childish shit for the whole board. Grow the fyuck up.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I ain't lost my cool yet. You don't see me resorting to large upper case letters, cuzzin and callin names.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Word to the UNwise: Let your girl fight her own battles. That schoolyard bullshit just makes you look like an old fool! But you should have learned this by now.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

US does fight her own battles, much to the detriment of you. And YOU of all people have nerve enough to talk about a school yard mentality.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 08:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Trying to clean up your act by utilizing the "delete" feature?
Buh Bye. Gotta go watch American Idol. Enough of the Obama Idolizer.
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 08:21 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Madame Cynique, I didn't know you were an American Idol junkie, too. Who looks good to you? So far, I really like Aisa'h and Ramiele from the girls; the only guy I'm feeling is Aussie Michael Johns. But he's 29, IIRC, which I think will limit his appeal with teenie boppers.
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Urban Scribe!

As this latest season begins, I'd describe myself as more of an America Idol viewer than a junkie. I've become a little jaded by the predictibility of the show and by the role-playing judges. Or have I gotten the names matched to the faces yet because last night it just seemed like a procession of young blond white girls with a few sistas interdespersed between, a couple of whom I kinda liked. As for the guys, the jury is still out on them soon, too.

I'll start getting more into the show when personalities begin to stand out and it gets down to the final 10. :-)
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 02:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_woman, I am not sure where folks here were saying Sen. Clinton's experience was "better" than Sen Obama's. But as she has been there longer, it stands to reason she'd have more to show for her time there. Then she has had other experience outside of government that should not be ignored.

What I think is fair game is people wanting her to either (a) stop claiming her time as First Lady as relevant experience, or (b) if she is going to claim it, come clean and release records detailing her specific involvement. It is also fine, as far as I am concerned for people (e.g., Black people) to ask her what her opinion is about some of the detrimental (to Blacks) decision her husband made during his administration--not because he is her Mister, but because she has used his star-power to campaign for her.

I also think it is fair to claim that in her case "experience" may represent the "same 'ole same 'ole" that we need to get away from, and thus "more" does not equal "better."
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 02:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As this latest season begins, I'd describe myself as more of an America Idol viewer than a junkie.

(You need t enter as a contestant. I have been wracking my brains to find something for us to get you into so we can make a ton of money off you--may as well try Amercan Idol--
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 02:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Too bad you can't find something better to wrack your brain about, chrishayden, than to figure out what I should be doing. What a sorry empty life you must lead. But it's not surprising considering how repulsive you are.
Maybe you and Yvette and a-woman should start grooming Obama as a candidate for American idol on the outside chance that he might lose the presidential race.
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I've never heard him sing. I have seen him do That Dance--you know, the one you all do when you're in mixed company with folks you do not know tht well and trying to be professional so you really don't just let loose? LOL

Seriously though, if Sen Obama loses, IMO he really doesn't "lose"--particular if he loses via political/delegate maneuvering. He will have proven himself to be well organized, well liked, well connected/endorsed--and most of all, a rainmaker who can energize the grassroots. His stature will only increase in the political realm, and all he'd have to do is bide his time until next time...
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 03:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The same could be said of Hillary. After all, there are still millions of Americans who do like her, and have voted for her and others may be inclined to give her a shot if Obama ends up losing because he couldn't pull it off.
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 03:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique, I find that a little bit more of a stretch. Sen. Clinton did not do a good job of managing her campaign (including campaign $), she clearly had more first and second hand knowledege of how the political game yet still managed many miscalculations, and there was already much talk before she even ran that she was "divisive." More was expected of her (fairly or unfairly). So if she loses, it will be more of a disappointment and prove her nay-sayers right. Less was expected of Obama, so it is easier for him to surpass expectations, even in a loss.

That is not to say many folks (at least, many Dems) would still vote for her in a general election should she be the candidate. But I do think that Obama "gains" more even in a loss than she would.
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 03:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well,in all probablity Hillary would change her tactics should she run again and that her image might change should she be gracious enough to campaign for Obama. And if Obama doesn't make it, he will be saddled with the "loser" label.
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Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 04:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BTW, word around Chicago is that Obama's back up plan in case he loses any of these contentests or elections is to run for the Governor of Illinois. The present one is very unpopular and, of course, Illinois loves Obama.
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Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 09:45 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Gov. Obama"...now that'd be interesting...

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