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Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 6059
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 11:53 am: | 
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Obama is ten points ahead of Hillary in NEW HAMPSHIRE!
If this boy wins in New Hampshire I might have to get out on Grand Avenue in my shorts at Rush Hour and do the boogaloo! |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9777
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 11:57 am: |
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If the polls say Obama's 10 points ahead, I expect him to win by at least 15.
Chris: "I might have to get out on Grand Avenue in my shorts at Rush Hour and do the boogaloo!"
Don't do that, bruh. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11060
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 12:48 pm: |
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You still can't absorb the idea that I dont' have a favorite in this race, chrishayden. I'm still in the "wait-and-see" stage. You're the one who kept bringing up the "Gant" factor, showing very little faith in Obama. Now, chameleon that you are, you're his biggest booster. watta phony |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6313
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 01:12 pm: |
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All the back & forth the last few months with Iowa and New Hampshire, what, 3 or 4 months with these two states and yet the national poll is virtually the same http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijClHoidEl8XEJMJoUooHU1R_nmgD8TTTND00
Hmmmmmm.
I guess the first few states really don’t mean that much at all, lol!!!
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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6315
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 01:48 pm: |
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So if she loses New Hampshire, my advice to her would be, keep going sweetie; this is America you'll find a friendlier state. 
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9781
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 02:40 pm: |
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Tonya,
Wonder if those national polls you're referring to are run by the same foks who had Hillary winning Iowa. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6318
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 04:48 pm: |
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Abm, Obama got by in Iowa because he was able to persuade Republican and Independent voters to vote for him at the last moment. He started recruiting them about a week or two before the election. Btw, as a result he's now being referred to as a "sellout" by American citizen Democrats. Sounds familiar…? It's a pattern. Yeah, he knows how to bring folks together, alright.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9783
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 03:41 am: |
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Tonya,
Assuming what you say is true, why didn't any of the Iowa polling account for Obama's wooing of Republicans and Independents?
And if the Iowa polls are faulty, why should anyone believe NATIONAL polling - which, presumeably, would be more difficult to accurately do for an entire NATION than one small state - that predict Clinton will win? |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6320
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 04:10 am: |
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Abm,
"...why didn't any of the Iowa polling account for Obama's wooing of Republicans and Independents?"
They did. The Des Moines register picked up on it in a poll they released about 4 days before the election. And a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll caught on 3 days later, but it was too late because the election was the next day. Remember he didn't start wooing them (Repub. and Independents) until a week or so before the election. And nobody believed him when he said he was gonna do the shit, because it was too f/ucking far to go in order to steal an election, and nobody f/ucking thought he'd be that f/ucking shiesty. That was their bad. They should've believed his ass.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9786
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 05:10 am: |
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Tonya,
So given ALL the media attention that has been focused on Iowa for MONTHS leading into the first primary NONE of the major media and pollers noticed what Obama was doing?
And you think it only took a few days for Obama to change the minds of 10,000's of people, some of whom have NEVER voted Democrat, especially a BLACK one?
And why didn't all those rebellious Republican and Independent Iowan voters back Edwards, Richardson, Biden or Dodd (who had MOVED his entire FAMILY to Iowa)?
The problem with what you're proposing here is it flies in the face of the logic of how things work and how people think and act. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6322
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 08:04 am: |
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ABM, after the Republicans lost the house and the Bush administration lost respect over all its screw-ups, Repub. voters left the party in droves and started an "Independent movement” registering themselves as Independents. In part their plan was to take down Hillary Clinton, a plot that was in the news for months. They figured if they could take Hillary down by skipping their own party’s primaries then vote for Barack in the democratic primaries, it would place Barack in the position to become the nominee, which in their minds would make it easier to win back the Whitehouse. Again, this conspiracy was in the news for months. But nobody took it seriously because most thought it was silly and asinine and in such poor taste. Plus it seemed like a bunch of hot air. That's why it was a f/ucking SHOCK when Senator Obama held a CONFERENCE with these KOOKS! It was a week or so before the election, when he was on the defense for his lack of experience and down a few points in the polls btw. In this conference he asked for their support. Now, would he still have gotten a lot of their votes considering the fact they were plotting anyway? Probably. But to hold a conference with the Republicans, the enemies of the entire Democratic Party and the folks that had the most to gain from a Hillary takedown THAT was a chump ass move. Especially since it was done in such a hostile environment, one where Clinton was being steamrolled by the national press who began the most VICIOUS anti-Hillary movement. Which was a movement that Barack had already been benefiting from with TONS of sycophantic media coverage which was done for the sole purpose of •••••-slapping Hillary Clinton. And so for him to go even further and hold a conference w/the REPUBLICANS--those who wanted Hillary’s head on a platter along with the ENTIRE Democratic party‘s chances in November, well that was just OVER THE LINE. If you were a true Democrat it left you with a bitter taste in your mouth I bet. It was shitty it was slimy it was sad niggrah...it was just sad.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2935
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 01:46 pm: |
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"ABM, after the Republicans lost the house and the Bush administration lost respect over all its screw-ups, Repub. voters left the party in droves and started an "Independent movement” registering themselves as Independents. In part their plan was to take down Hillary Clinton, a plot that was..............If you were a true Democrat it left you with a bitter taste in your mouth I bet."
I guess that means Obama is sleeping with the enemy? Wow! All of the changes and issues he wishes to address, are exactly what Republicans desire? No? Oh yeah, that's right, they want to undermine Hillary with backdoor intrigue and chicanery. They want Obama to run as the Dem nominee and get defeated later because he is black? Vote for him now in a carefully orchestrated political primary assassination of Hillary and then vote against him in a real election. Nobody sees nor comprehends this. Hmmmmm.....
Well, I guess this is the only way Obama could win any primaries. Right? Ok, ok, it all makes sense now. I got it.........
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