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Troy
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Post Number: 953
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Barack Obama appeared at the "World Famous" Apollo theater last night. He was supported by Dr. Cornel West and Comedian Chris Rock.
I took video and photos with my crappy little camera (for some reason focusing at a distance is no longer working properly); but the audio quality is excellent and message is inspiring.
The Apollo was packed to capacity with Harlemnites -- most paying $50 bucks a head and waiting on-line 2 hours or more to see Obama.
There are indications that even Jewish, republican/independent, billionaire, New York City Mayor, Michael Bloomberg will be supporting Obama.
New York Senator Bill Perkins (Dem. Harlem) is one of the few NY Based politicians to support Obama. The other our under the control of the Clintons.
Bloomberg can stand tall, well cause he is a billionaire. Bill Perkinds stands tall because of convictions. The rest seems to be afraid - even longtime Harlem congressman Charlie Rangel (Dem & chairman of the House Ways & Means Committee).
Obviously Oprah and followers are on board too.
Chris do you still think that the man has a no chance to win?
Video to be posted later today.
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Chrishayden
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Post Number: 5811
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Chris do you still think that the man has a no chance to win?
(I don't just think
I KNOW
You see, you must use the Gant rule when viewing the polls. White people lie about their willingness to vote for a black candidate. You generally have to adjust any poll numbers for a black candidate downward about 10 per cent. So, Obama will get waxed in Iowa (if he lasts that long) and that will be that.
You are too emotional. You need to calm down.
White folks didn't spend all that money training you so you could get carried away. |
Cynique
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Obama has a thin lead in Iowa.
BTW, I don't think Oprah's high-profile support of Obama is a plus. A lot of people will resent her thinking that just because she supports him, they will fall in line. Her fans may read the books she recommends, but when it comes to presidential candidates these same white fans will exercise their own preferences.
I don't think either Obama or Hilllary can get elected. Those damned Republicans are going to sneak in by default. |
Chrishayden
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Obama has a thin lead in Iowa
(Too thin. He has to be 10 percentage points or better to win according to the Gant Rule)
BTW, I don't think Oprah's high-profile support of Obama is a plus
(I don't think so either. At best its a wash. This morning on the radio some O head stated that everybody watches Oprah. But everybody don't. And, like you said, just because they will sob at one of her programs or buy a book don't mean they will vote for her candidate.
I do admire her spunk, though)
I don't think either Obama or Hilllary can get elected. Those damned Republicans are going to sneak in by default.
(If they were conservative Republicans they would probably be in on a landslide.
Obama is black. End of story.
Hillary has Bill around her neck. That SOB is out, doing his thing now, lying about his opposition to the Iraq War.
As time gets closer, those most likely to vote, who are of an age to remember when that punk shook his finger in our face and lied and said "I did not have sex with that woman" are going to say, "Not again" and either stay home, write in a candidate or vote for the Republican.
I would say that at this point, I would figure a Romney Huckabee or a Romney Giuliani or even a Romney Thompson ticket beats anything the Wimpocrats have to offer) |
Troy
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"White folks didn't spend all that money training you so you could get carried away." LOL! I forgot all about that line; I'm going to starting working it into my regular conversation.
Chris most votes are cast emotionally. Who do you think actually takes the time and effor to carefully consider a candidate's record, poisition and experience when casting a vote?
I'll tell you: virtually no one.
People vote their emotions which is why candidates spend so much time and money appealing to people's emotions... rather than reasoning with them.
The "news" makes things worse by faciliating and encouraging this process.
Rationally speaking here (only this one time). I believe the Repubicans will win the white house. The Dems strongest candidates are tragecially flawed: Obama is Black and Hillary is a woman, tied inextricably to Clinton's worse side.
I still can't get my head around the fact Rudi Guilliani is even in the mix.... Where it not for the terrorist attacks there is no way Rudi would be in the mix.
---- back to emotional perspective---
When I was a kid we were told any of us could grow up and become the president of the United States, provided you studied hard, ate your spinach and stayed away from drugs. Needless to say none of us brought into this concept.
Obama's win will send a message to all the little Black children out there that yes you CAN become Commander in Chief (and you don't even have to stay away from drugs).
Obama will not lose because he did not get my vote.
He will lose because there are simply far too many Black people who, deep down inside, in their heart if hearts, hatin' on Obama. Who else would claim Obama is not Black. This is sickening.
Iowa should prove interesting.
Video to follow in an hour or so. I gonna get a brewski (maybe a vodka tonic this black self hatred drives me up the wall!)
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Troy
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The Barack Obama Video's may be found here: http://aalbc.com/authors/barack_obama.htm
Again the audio quality is high but the video quality is poor, however it is quite viewable.
The event was covered by many news sources but I have not seen any video of the event yet.
I was at an awards ceremony this evening and was informated that the DC 37 Union has endorsed Hillary. They felt Barack did not do enough to make them happy early on in the campaign (you know the kissing the ring kind of stuff).
It was a table full of Black folk and they seemed like decent, caring people. They told me the decision was made at the national level.
I was going say well your union can endorse whomever they want, but I'm sure you will vote for the Brother, right?
Something told me not to bother.
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Chrishayden
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He will lose because there are simply far too many Black people who, deep down inside, in their heart if hearts, hatin' on Obama. Who else would claim Obama is not Black. This is sickening.
(Chill. Nobody could be President on the votes of black folks. Black folks are 12% of the population, and a lesser percent of the voters.
You can get all the black folks vote and still lose. Do the math. You got to get white folks to vote for you--I wouldn't know the percentage but you would need in the range of 40%,
He won't get it.) |
Troy
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Chris if 12% of that voting block actually made it to the polls, homeboy would have a great chance. Because Black people are not the only ones who will vote for him.
There are namy other groups who for whatever reason are voting for Obama (or at least not casting a vote for Hillary). So the math is not a simple as you describe.
And of course there are a few people who have looked at the candidates, rationally, and have decided Obama is the best person for the job.
Now as you know Blacks made up a larger percentage of the Democratic party than we do the general population. Do you think BO (unfortunate set of initials) will get the Democratic nomination?
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Yvettep
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Cool, Troy. Thanks! |
Cynique
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I find it interesting that Jesse Jackson's wife is supporting Hillary Clinton, maybe miffed that Obama's candidacy puts his wife in line for the first-lady role Fate denied her. Maya Angelou, Oprah's, surrogote mother, is also for Hillary
There seems to be an interesting story behind every black person who doesn't support Obama.
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Troy
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Cynique, we know the Clinton's have done a lot to support Dr. Angelou. The extent of this support we may never know. I bet part of Angelou's reason for supporting the Clintons is merely returning the favor. Unfortunately this comes at the expense of putting a Black man in the White house.
Some Black people are amazing: we see, on a daily basis, that white people extend all sorts of preferential treatment to other whites whether it be in the crimal justice system, housing, the work place, or access to education. Many of us are old enough to rememeber when these restrictions were the law.
Now when it is time to give a Brother "the hook up" we, in our sanctimonious righteousness dream up every reason not to vote for him.
I don't agree with Obama on some very fundamental issues. But I can not see myself passing up on the first viable Black candidate. Again, have a Black face on the leadership of the most powerful country in recorded history will more than off-set my disagreements with Obama's fiscal policy or other positions.
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Cynique
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The best rationale for backing Obama is that he certainly couldn't be any worse than the man who presently occupies the office of president. The worst case scenario is that his blackness can inhibit him from advancing programs that benefit minorities for fear of being accused of showing favortism.
This race may yet shape up into a being a situation where platforms are dismissed and people are simply against one candidate rather than being for another, especially since nobody can promise a fast satisfactory resolution of the war in Iraq. IMO. |
Troy
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Cynique, if the rationale that Obama is no worse that what we have today will get you into the booth to pull that lever for him; then I'm fine with that.
"...especially since nobody can promise a fast satisfactory resolution of the war in Iraq"
This is actually one of the issues I have with Obama and everyone else who says they will have an immediate pull out of Iraq if elected.
Just like the powerful Democratss, currently in the Senate, who promised a hasty exit from Iraq; they have been unable to deliver on that promise. It is impractical, and unrealistic to think anyone can unwind that situation quickly without causing much more damage... but hey it is sure easy to say.
Now if may turn out that by the time Obama or anyone else takes office the exit would have begun, and they can take credit.
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Jmho
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Troy wrote:
Now when it is time to give a Brother "the hook up" we, in our sanctimonious righteousness dream up every reason not to vote for him.
Ironically, or maybe not, those who support this Brother, have no problem tossing their sanctimonious righteousness against other Brothers and Sisters, they disagree with, don’t like, oppose, etc. Let them tell it, it's all about principle, and not race. As if they are the only ones who should or can make such discernments.
As Ms Cynique, says, and so it goes. |
Yvettep
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Another nice perspective of Obama's Apollo appearance:
http://jackandjillpolitics.blogspot.com/2007/11/showtime-at-apollo-featuring-bar ack.html |
Chrishayden
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"SCREEEEECH!" shriek'd Cynique! |
Cynique
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Well, chrishayden, I'm glad to see that my identifying you as being a lying SOB has not only cured you of misrepresenting my sentiments about MLK, but have also reduced you to squawking the nonsensical utterances that are befitting your mentality.  |
Troy
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JMHO, point well taken.
The whole issue boils down to this: Can we or rather should we, as Black people, give Obama a little extra consideration because he is Black?
Are Clinton or Edwards so much better, or is Obama so poorly qualified that we can’t take the chance. Are we really that afraid?
So scared, are we to put someone in the white house that has actually worked in the inner city. Too afraid the give the reigns of leadership to one of our own…
…but I guess some of y’all don’t feel he is down with us, one of us.
Folks were making fun of Obama, on one of the morning hip-hop radio show because Obama’s middle name is Husain…
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Robynmarie
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Troy-Did you see this article on CBS News about how black women are supporting Hillary?
www.cbsnews.com?
I think alot sistas feel as I do that WHITE America will never elect a black person as President. It's a pipe dream and narrative the GOP is pushing because they are still in denial about their own racism. Just an example, the number of discrimination complaints against corporations in this country has skyrocketed. You are telling me these people who can't even treat their employees right are gonna elect a black President? I say no way.
It is good to see so many people so enthusiastic about Senator Obama. In the end, though, he'll be another victim of the Clinton machine.
As for Oprah, I guess we will see how progressive IOWA really is when Senator Obama, his wife Michelle and Oprah take the stage together. They gonna scare some folks for real. LOL
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Enchanted
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since this is only primary Robynmaire whynot support a strong black candidat? black women r stupid imo you can vote hillary later on since you claim shes going to win anyway but why blakcs never want to move foreward or stand together is hillary more black than the obamas? this chance dont come every election we should support a blak candidate because he is deserving on top of it all |
Robynmarie
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I live in Cali and so by the time the election time comes to the West Coast, (sometime in February 2008, I think) the nominee will already be decided, I am afraid.
I want to see a woman in the White House. That to me would be real progress.
Is Hillary the best choice? Probably not, but I like her fightin' attitude.
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Troy
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Robynmarie, I really don't need to read the article. I just ate dinner. Besides, I've already spoken with enough black women who will support Hillary over Obama, that it already makes me wanna puke.
Enchanted: Exactly.
Some of y'all need to read The Secret http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1582701709/ref=nosim/aalbccom-20 instead of laying down and dying -- try actually believing that Obama can win. |
Libralind2
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I just read The Secret...I didnt find anything new in it..
LiLi |
Robynmarie
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Why if a black person doesn't plan to vote for Obama, we are called stupid non-believers in need of "The Secret"? Is that what Senator Obama's campaign is about? |
Cynique
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I started it, but I didn't finish it because like you, Li-Li, I didn't find anything new in it. It's just re-cycled metaphysics about energizing images with positive thinking, and turning thoughts into things.  |
Cynique
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Wonder if at the root of so many black women's reluctance to support Obama is their lack of trust in black men which, in turn, leads them to identify with a b i t c h goddess like Hillary. Politics makes strange bedfellows.  |
Robynmarie
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I have thought about the lack of trust factor too. Or the over-protective mother role we black women sometimes play, that is worried that Senator Obama might get hurt if he is elected.
I like Hillary cause she is a fighter-with no apologies. That's why she has a problem with men voters. Even in 2008, and there are still lots of guys who think women are supposed to bowdown. Sick em Hill, LOL. |
Troy
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Cynique, you win the cupie doll with the 10:55 pm post.
Robynmarie, Obama, of course, can not campaign on race. So no, this is not what his camapaign is about.
Robynmarie, don't you want to see a Black family in the White House? If not why not?
Side Bar: Hey did anyone notice Obama about to get down (dance) at the end of part 2. If was like he got started then thought better of if.
Side Bar 2: Can anyone explain how The Secret lived on bestsellers lists and is made into a movie. When it is the same thing that has been preached in progressive churches, and exposed by every two bit motivational speaker in existence?
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Robynmarie
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I would love to see a black family in the White House. My question for you is why do you believe the good people South of the Mason Dixon line, some of who still fly the Conferderate flag, the same folks, who did not vote for Harold Ford will vote for Senator Obama? Or here in Cali, years ago Tom Bradley was leading in the polls, we just knew he would be the first black Governor of the Golden State. He had the same kind of appeal as Senator Obama, not too militant or scary to white people. He went down to defeat because the good people of Orange County, just would not vote for him.
Please tell me what will be different with Senator Obama? The Secret?
With all due respect, I think the "idea" of Senator Obama as Prez is primary appeal to white folks. We will see if they actually vote for him.
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Enchanted
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Robynmaire you said whites will show they true colors in voting booth good people of south but your reaction is to vote with them? another thing why not stick together on gp blacks? I dont understnad women like you act like all is so equal we can vote a fake white lady who gives no care for blcks but not a black man who loves black people or is that the problem that he loves himself an us? you cant tellme blacks r not against seeing a black succeed because hes black |
Jmho
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Troy wrote:
Robynmarie, Obama, of course, can not campaign on race. So no, this is not what his camapaign is about.
Funny he can't (or won't) campaign on race, yet nearly all his supporters, including his wife, are the first to bring up race when 'chastising' other blacks for not supporting him. Even Troy's next question to Robynmarie noted race: Robynmarie, don't you want to see a Black family in the White House?
Another thing that I can't quite figure out is, some blacks who support Obama, think race is a good enough reason to support him, don't seem to consider that as a female, you may think that gender is a good enough reason to support Clinton. (Note I didn't say sole reason.) This seems like a double standard. I can let race be the (or one of the) deciding factor, but as a female you shouldn't let gender be yours. And, it's another example of race trumping everything else. |
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but Jmho what kindof female is hillary to relation to a black female? why hell do I want Miss Anne you act like any female will do Obama is not just any black he is worthy of presidency on same level young Kennedy was an woulnt a black first lady be more important image for black girls than white woman on pedestal? I think havg a black first lady be more historymaking an contrass b****s 'n Ho's image Black women are stupid putting Miss Ame of Arkinsaw ahead of black first lady image |
Cynique
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Hillary was born and raised in Park Ridge, Illinois, so that "Miz Anne" thing is played out. And in making a choice, for many black women it is, indeed, about sex as much as about race. Also, if voting for Obama because he is black becomes a criteria, than how can you condemn others who will vote for Edwards because the deciding factor is because he's white???  |
Cynique
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BTW, John Kennedy was overrated when it came to his presidential qualifications. His motivation for running was all about raw ambition. He came from a life of privilege and knew very little about black people or did he have a distinguished record as a senator and was absent from the floor a lot because he had health problems. JFK was turned into a saint because he was assassinated, but had he served out his time in office, he may have been judged more objectively. |
Enchanted
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if 70percent single parent homes r black women why would we not want to see a black president with black first lady for our children to look up to? that is my problem with stupid black women who prefer hillary an bill an society of don imus instead of black couple? and plenty of Miss Anne come from Park Ridge, Illinois any white woman kin be Miss Anne shes not goin to help us |
Enchanted
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Hillary dont mke black women "women" but the image of Michelle Obama an Condoleeza in the white house does also Barack n Michelle sets right example for black kids rest my case |
Robynmarie
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I am looking at electability since Clinton and Obama are very close on many issues, particularly health care and the Iraq war.
We are not at the point in American history where a black person could or would get elected POTUS.
Maybe when h e l l freezes over... |
Cynique
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You need to rest your case,"enchanted" because any person somebody as stupid as you endorses has to be questioned.  |
Cynique
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And for somebody who can't figure out how to type, "enchanted", one has to wonder how you know how to under line your text. You're such a fraud. |
Cynique
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I agree with you Robynmarie, and moreover I'm not that concerned about the cosmetics of this campaign, - about what looks good for black folks needing the false security of tokenism. I'm concerned more about what's best for the country, about health care and schools and taxes and oil prices and the mortgage crises and Iraq and Iran, all of which is why I still haven't made up my mind about who to vote for. |
Robynmarie
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Cynique-
I am glad you good folks in the Midwest will have an actual say in who the nominee is. By the time they get to California, it will already have been decided. Now that's unfair. |
Enchanted
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cynique you used to call kola boof a fraud an I used to agree with you but now I see somethng she said about you is true that your not much of a woman I repeat your not much of a woman you will now commense calling me kola but thats fine long as you dont call me zane an least Im not a big liar like you an Mizurable an zane zzzzzzzzzzzz |
Troy
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Robynmarie, if you would love to see a Black family in the white house why not cast your vote accordingly?
No, I don't think red neck in the South are going to vote for Obama, but that is beside the point.
Jmho, If a Black woman were running I would vote her. To clarify, Barack's campaign is NOT on race. It would be a asinine for him to campaign on that platform. This of course has nothing to do with his supporters or detectors. They are free to select him based upon his color.
Of course I would expect the white racist not to vote for Obama, I'm just surprised by his being rejected by other Blacks -- and not because of his stated positions.
Enchanted makes a good point, ... but your reaction is to vote with them? . I also agree with Enchanted, on a point I made myself many times; Barack n Michelle sets right example for black kids
It is the second point that I find most compelling.
Though, I'm actually discouraged when you consider that we have (or had) a Black Joint Chiefs of Staff, Secretary of State, Supreme Court Justice, and none of these individuals are sufficiently lauded by Black people -- indeed a couple of them are reviled.
If we could drum of some more white support for Obama, to offset the lack of Black support, and get him elected; I fear Black folks will find a reason to vilify Obama too.
Cynique, you highlight an in congruency few would probably notice “And for somebody who can't figure out how to type, "enchanted", one has to wonder how you know how to under line your text.”
Cynique, you say ” I'm concerned more about what's best for the country, about health care and schools and taxes and oil prices and the mortgage crises and Iraq and Iran,”. Do you think Obama will single handedly f that all up? You are from Chicago, has not Obama done anything positive in your neck of the woods.
I’m from New York, Hillary has only had an adverse effect here. Seriously, I don’t know what Hillary has done other than to use her position as a staging ground for her political aspirations.
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Troy wrote:
The whole issue boils down to this: Can we or rather should we, as Black people, give Obama a little extra consideration because he is Black?
I am curious why you don't or haven't consider/ed that black females may want to give a little extra consideration because she is female? As Obama is the only Black running, for president, Clinton is the only female. And, why if a black female decides to give the chance to the female, then her racial solidarity is called into question? She's no less black as she no less female. |
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Troy who say I cant spell? fact is I cant type very fast so it mispels that dont mean I cant underline a nontypist looks stupid becaus its the internet dummy I know how to use underline keys I just dont type well so stick that in your congruity
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Enchanted wrote:
you act like any female will do Obama is not just any black he is worthy of presidency
Well, it seems to me that some think any black will do, while others think Clinton is not just any female, and is worthy, of the presidency.
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I think havg a black first lady be more historymaking
And, some think having a first female president can be more history making. Just as you think having the Obamas, in the White House, sends a message to black children, both male and female, having Clinton as president, also sends a message to girls, both black and white (and those in other racial groups). |
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Tell her, JMHO. Ol "enchanted" needs to stfu. She's so full of it. |
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To be honest, Troy, I never heard of Obama until he suddenly popped up and threw his hat in the Illinois senate race. And I am not that enamoured of Hillary. She's a little bit hawkish for me. I guess I'm just foolishly looking for an imposing stalwart figure who can step up and take command and rescue America, one who can get ELECTED. Obama is this lean wiry guy with jug ears, purple lips and an oblique manner. |
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^^^^LOL
Cynique, I wasn't going to go there, but now that you mention it...LOL
Troy- If it is a matter of having a black family in the White House, why not vote for Will and Jada Smith? They have just as much credibility...
Please be mindful, it is not just white racists who will refuse to vote for Senator Obama. That would make it easy. Out here in California, lots of God-fearing people just could not see having a black person in the White House and they would be very insulted if you called them bigots cause some of their best friends are black. :rolleyes:
You have more faith in white people than I do. |
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Can we all cut the sh*t here and be really HONEST: Neither Obama or Clinton is the MOST experienced and qualified Democrat.
NEITHER of them is.
And Edwards actually has LESS experience in (or, in the case of Clinton, near) elective office than Obama or Clinton.
Biden, Kucinich, Dodd and Richardson ALL have more experience than those three. And they all appear to have distinguished themselves as politicians and as citizens.
In fact, were I to drop all biases I have, the most logical person to vote for would be Biden. He has decades of experience in the very highest of governmental office. He has a fairly decent voting record. And he actually appears to be a genuinely affable and decent man (leastwise as far as politicians go).
And Richardson, who got amongst the Democrats, perhaps, the most diversified resume, might be my second unbiased choice.
But am I going to vote for any of those gentlemen? No, I am voting for Obama.
I believe Obama is a brilliant, charismatic man who appear to be honest (as you can expect a politician to be) and at least as capable of and inclined to think and do the better thing as any of his competitors.
I believe Obama might be capable of charming some things out of this country and of the rest of the world (including his political rivals) that none of the other candidates can.
And I am voting for Obama because he’s a (partially) Black man who has a Black wife and Black daughters...like me.
PS: I wish Gore was running. Because I think he may now be ready to be a truly great president. |
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Troy wrote:
Though, I'm actually discouraged when you consider that we have (or had) a Black Joint Chiefs of Staff, Secretary of State, Supreme Court Justice, and none of these individuals are sufficiently lauded by Black people -- indeed a couple of them are reviled.
So, then it's about their politcs or their political leaning, and not this notion of "giving a little extra consideration because they are Black." It's been interesting to watch to see how black folks been tap dancing around this.
Similarly, with Alan Keyes, when he ran, I don't recall an utterance of: it would send such a wonderful and powerful message to black children, or it would be good see a black family, in the White House, that mirrors mines.
Many, it not nearly all, knew that he didn't have a snowball chance in hell, of even getting the nomination, let alone, winning the presidency, so he didn't even register on their radar screen, wasn't regarded as a viable candidate, and they certainly wasn't going to throw away their vote or contributions, even though he was the only black man, in the race.
Where was all of those, in the chorus of, he might not be he best qualified, but let's tip our hat, to the black man, when he was running? Or were those black folks then, as you said, "Too afraid the give the reigns of leadership to one of our own"? It seems being racially aligned and supportive does have it limits.
Troy wrote:
If we could drum of some more white support for Obama, to offset the lack of Black support, and get him elected
Don't worry, I suspect some whites will be crossing over, to vote for Obama, then will cross back, and vote against him, if he wins the nomination. The same with some blacks. So be careful what you wish for. |
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Right on point, JMHO! |
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JMHO, I'd give a Black man more consideration than a white woman or man. That white person would have to pretty much walk on water to get my vote over over Obama's.
Once we have a Black president. In future elections I may make race less of a factor.
Enchanted I did not say that you could not spell. It just seems odd to me that one would take the time to underline words but not to correct simple typos. Take it the way you want, it is just an observation.
Besides, I would bet I've been using the Internet for over 1/4 of a century and that was never an excuse for simple typos.
Robynmarie, Will and Jada are not running so I can;t vote for them. Though I honestly believe if they were Black folks would not have a problem voting for them.
Did you see Will Smith on 60 Minutes I watched it last night. I heard rumors about their life styles I though Jada was gonna drop a bomb or two...
Cynique, no Obama is not the most imposing figure. Indeed his wife is more physcially intimidating. This is one of the reasons I believe Fred Thompson is a strong contender. People love Tall White guys with deep voices. FDR would be unelectable in the 21st century.
ABM if Gore were running there would be no contest. He would be a shoe in to win the whole thing.
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ABM if Gore were running there would be no contest. He would be a shoe in to win the whole thing.
(He's such a sissy he'd let them rob him again.
This is the question that needs to be asked of these Wussycrats and nobody is asking it:
If it looks like you lost the election due to crookery at the ballotbox as happened in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004, will you just concede or will you challenge the results?
If they are going to roll over again it is a waste to even take 20 minutes to vote for them.
Troy, I admire you. But you fell into the typical trap. Before you went up to the Apollo, you had your Buppie hat on, and you were cool, reserved, biding your time.
You got in their with them Negroes yelling and clapping and dancing and you started believing that publicity.
Tsk tsk. You got carried away, son! You got to doin' the holy dance, and grinnin' and your eyes were shinin'--come back down to earth.
We need you here.
Obama ain't got a shot. He's black.
The only Black man who would have a chance now would be a conservative Republican--and I'm talking about a right wing, n----baiting one.
I don't give a damn about a Black President. I know right now the way the U.S. is configured he ain't gonna do nothing for me.
He's probably gonna do something TO me. |
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(Apparently the only thing that you need is to have some Negro up in the office grinning and that's enough.
That's not enough. What kind of job is he doing? What is he doing?
Though, I'm actually discouraged when you consider that we have (or had) a Black Joint Chiefs of Staff,
(Colin Powell is their boy. HE has been since he helped them cover up the My Lai Massacre as a low ranking officer. That's something to be proud of, isn't it? When he told them in Gulf War I not to attack they ignored him.
Secretary of State,
(Powell as Secretary of State got up in the UN lied and helped Bush invade Iraq. He is a war criminal. But I am supposed to be proud of him because he wore a suit, right?
Ain't you the one on here always talking about Black dope dealers and that? Some of them dress pretty spiffy, too and make more money than Powell.
Condoleeza Rice has been nothing but a mouthpiece and is also a war criminal. But that's cool as long as she ain't on welfare or nothing if she can help waste up your tax money, kill up your young people and get the U.S. reviled all over the world long as she wears them expensive shoes)
Supreme Court Justice,
(Thurgood Marshall, si.
Uncle Clarence, no)
and none of these individuals are sufficiently lauded by Black people -- indeed a couple of them are reviled.
(If they were white, other white folks would have probably bumped them off by now.)
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To be honest, Troy, I never heard of Obama
(Of course not. He's black)
It doesn't matter who is President. The U.S. is run by a Military/Industrial/Political/Financial/Intelligence complex. Like the Roman Army and Government of the Roman Empire.
It is fueled and directed by the need for oil, and is served by the Media/Educational/Religious groups.
Whoever gets in there, the same thing is going to happen. The talk might be different. |
Troy
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"You got in their with them Negroes yelling and clapping and dancing...
Chris you paint a hillarious but false picture.
In reality, I almost left the event before it got started... But that is a story for another post. Suffice it to say, that folks were saying this "____________" (fill in the blank) would never happen at a Hillary Clinton event.
I'm defintely not the one to get caught up in any kind of hype. It is just not in my genetics. Again, my mind was made up before I got there. I brought one of my daughters just so she could hear the man.
I do agree with you that the country is not run by the president. This is why I don't mind casting my vote for Obama.
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Cynique
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Who is currently running this country?? Nobody seems to have the power to stop Bush from doing exactly as he pleases, and his staff and cronies have to know how misguided and clueless Dubya is.  |
Troy
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Cynique reason for this is that the Bushes are part of the "Military/Industrial/Political/Financial/Intelligence" complex. |
Cynique
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So who will be running the country if Obama wins?? |
Ntfs_encryption
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"Whoever gets in there, the same thing is going to happen. The talk might be different."
Chris, I have to agree with your statement. It's true...... |
Cynique
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Well, I've just been robbed of an incentive to vote for Barak Obama. If I am to believe you guys, then Obama does not represent change.  |
Ntfs_encryption
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"Well, I've just been robbed of an incentive to vote for Barak Obama."
Naw, do your thing Ms. Cynique. Vote for whom you feel comfortable with. Everyone else is going to do the same. |
Troy
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If Obama wins the "Military/Industrial/Political/Financial/Intelligence" complex will continue to run the country -- it just will not be quite as easy for them as it is under the Bush regime.
Cynique you know, of course, it took hundreds of years for this country to get to where it is now. Progress does not happen overnight, nor will a single man, any man, correct all of our country's ills.
Dr. King did not end Jim Crow by himself, nor will Barack single handedly put more Black boys in college than in Jail.
However, I do strongly believe Barack's election, along with other positive steps will go a long way in reversing this and other negative trends in the Black community.
Conversely, I'm also afraid that Barack's loss will be just another example of a Black man's inability to get anywhere in this country -- not just because of white racism, but also Black self-hatred.
Based upon what I seeing so far, the GOP will win the White house. Because the Dems brightest stars are unelectable.
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Abm
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One of the EASIEST dayam things in the world someone, especially someone who's BLACK, can be cynical. There's certainly LOTS of justification for such.
Yes. There's all that military/industrial/media/gangstagotdaymrap stuff hovering above us all.
*shrug*
That's always been there and likely will always be there.
You don't vote for a president because you KNOW he-she do a gotdayam thing. Rather, you vote for him-her because of what he-she MIGHT engender.
That's it.
You consider who they are and calculate "Whatthefuhk is the chance that THIS particular mofo will - hell, at least by accident - do (or at least ALLOW) some of what I need for him-her to do (or ALLOW)."
And then you make a choice and see what happens.
And it's NOT just about what laws or policies a President wroughts or enforces.
You vote for the chance that someone can effect a change, however minor or benign, in perceptions, in culture, that might for better (Lincoln) and dear lawd not for the worse (Nixon) send ripping effects into the future.
I am getting too dayam old and close to death to be CYNICAL about sh*t.
And I have children who will succeed me. Shame on old dustya$$ Black foks who spew their sour p*ss all over our children futures.
Who the hell want to check out of this world thinking and feeling that way. I'd rather be hopeful, believe in something, hell, ANYTHING than enjoy being 'right' about how permanent my stay in hell will be. |
Cynique
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The beautiful thing about the free election process is that people vote for the office of president for whatever damn reason they please. They vote their pocketbooks, their religion, their race, their conscience, their anger, their bigotry, and, if they are so inclined, they vote their damned cynicism, doing so because they don't have a cookie-cutter mentality. That's their all-American prerogative.
And when the outcome of an election is determined by the electoral college, and when it is apparently a given what forces will eventually be the "power behind the throne", it ain't that hard to be cynical about what impact an "optimistic idealistic" vote will have on the final outcome. |
Cynique
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I might add that there are just as many cynical young voters as there are old ones. |
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Troy, I like you. You have proved by getting carried away over Obama (when was the last time? I believe you had attended a rally and got up and did the Holy dance. About a month later you was back to normal)that you are human as everybody else.
Don't lay no money down on this.
ABM--well, you read comic books. What can I say.
By the way, what did you think about the cover to FutureQuake #9. I bet you're on your way to the comic shop to pick up your copies now, eh? |
Chrishayden
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Who is currently running this country?? Nobody seems to have the power to stop Bush from doing exactly as he pleases, and his staff and cronies have to know how misguided and clueless Dubya is
(He has been doing just what the complex wants. It's just that what they wanted did not turn out the way they thought.
What do they care? They're all still rich and comfortable.) |
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Hey did Oprah give away any cars today in Iowa? |
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Troy, I love ya man.
You've just proved that you are human, just like everybody else.
Boy! How refreshing! |
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Chris, demonstrating the flawed nature of humanity is one of my strengths. |
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"He has been doing just what the complex wants. It's just that what they wanted did not turn out the way they thought. What do they care? They're all still rich and comfortable."
True............
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Because their political views are so similiar, in this case, I would choose who I "like" better - and it's definitely Obama. I've never been a fan of Hillary. She seems far too b i t c h y and cold. She has always come across as being way too power-hungry, and I could see her being elected and becoming tyrant-like.
On the other hand, I like Obama. He seems more rational, sincere, and less boastful - but still strong enough to be a quality leader. I would also like to see a Biracial/Black man in the White House, and I'd like America to finally have a "First Lady" that's non-white. While I didn't particularly care for Michelle's "babies daddy" comment, I like her a lot! In general, I think having a Black "First Family" would usher in an era that could potentially create a more stable economic power-base for, and positive progression of, Black/Biracial families. And because of my family dynamic, I'm totally about the economic empowerment of Black/Biracial families. It would also be awesome for my children to see a Biracial/Black man elected President. I'm all for Obama!
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Cynique
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I think your noble views are pretty typical of white people in general, and white women in particular who kid themselves in believing they really want a person of color in the white house. Sorry, Moonie. My cyncism kicked in and made me say that.  |
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Cynique - You may be right about white people in general think, but most white people are intermarried either. So, with consideration to my marriage/children, and set aside from his political views (that I happen to agree with many), one of the main reasons I'd vote for Obama is because he's Biracial - like my children. It sets a good example for them to see a Biracial man hold such a high political office.
Some may think it's self-motivation - and I can't say it's not. So, oh well.
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Chrishayden
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So, with consideration to my marriage/children, and set aside from his political views (that I happen to agree with many), one of the main reasons I'd vote for Obama is because he's Biracial - like my children. It sets a good example for them to see a Biracial man hold such a high political office.
(That's good. And you should.
But what if he was a bum?) |
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