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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5783
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 10:29 am: | 
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Come on, now!
INFO: james brown symposium @ princeton
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"Ain't that a Groove": The Genius of James Brown
November 29-30, 2007
Princeton University’s Center for African American Studies is hosting a
two-day symposium focusing on the life, career and cultural impact of Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame member and popular music legend James Brown. Entitled “ ‘Ain’
t That A Groove’: The Genius of James Brown,” this symposium marks the first
international conference ever held to commemorate the work of one of America’s
most influential musicians and entertainers.
Princeton University’s Center for African-American Studies aims to celebrate
and explore the lasting impact of James Brown’s career on the world of popular
music and more broadly on American life and culture.
November 29 6:00 p.m.-9:00 p.m. Richardson Auditorium
November 30 9:00 a.m.-6:00 p.m. Richardson Auditorium
View complete 2-day schedule
To register (download registration form here):
Due to limited space, we encourage you to register for the symposium. To
register, please return the registration form to Jennifer Loessy at
jloessy@princeton. edu or fax to (609) 258-5095.
Faculty Coordinator:
Daphne Brooks, brooksd@princeton. edu
Associate Professor, Department of English and African American Studies
32A McCosh Hall
Princeton University
Event Coordinator:
Jennifer Loessy, jloessy@princeton. edu
609-258-3216
Co-Sponsored by the Office of the President, Office of the Vice President
for Campus Life, The University Center for Human Values, Department of Music,
Program in American Studies, Department of English, Program in the Study of
Women & Gender, Department of History, Butler College
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Nuuon
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Username: Nuuon
Post Number: 43
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 07:33 pm: |
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The idea of a symposium on James Brown is only questionable to those who know little or nothing about American music and world music history. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5785
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 11:55 am: |
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The idea of a symposium on James Brown is only questionable to those who know little or nothing about American music and world music history.
(Let me tell you something. The Albums James Brown Live at the Apollo Vols I, II and III are the symposium. The movie 'The T.A.M.I. show" where James Brown destroyed Mick Jagger and everybody else who was on the bill was the symposium. The album compilation "Star Time" was the symposium. Having viewed any of his red hot performances (as I did four times in the years 67-70--average length of performance, four hours) was the symposium.
Maybe any of the people who worked for and with him--his musicians, his staff, his hairdresser, his tailor, his family, his singers, his management--would be a symposium.
A bunch of academics who may not even have done all that?
Please please please
Go away. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5786
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 11:56 am: |
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James Brown himself was the symposium. You sat and watched and listened until you understood it.
This understanding transcended anything so feeble as words.
The Academy--where they go to mummify you. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10723
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 02:59 pm: |
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As the article states, the purpose of this gathering is to "celebrate and explore the lasting impact of James Brown's career on the world of popular music and more broadly on American life and culture."
It's not about Brown being a musical phenomenon, it's about him being a sociological one, a subject that is perfectly legimate for academia to discuss. And since it's an open forum how do you know there won't be authentic sources present to add input?? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5795
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 04:01 pm: |
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the purpose of this gathering is to "celebrate and explore the lasting impact of James Brown's career on the world of popular music and more broadly on American life and culture
(I told you how that is done. James Brown was the symposium.
All them fools need to do is play his albums and films for two days.
Then ask, "Are there any questions?" And there should be none. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10732
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 04:13 pm: |
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I don't care what you "told me", chrishayden. Obviously, I don't agree with your take on this matter. You are, after all, nothing more than a self-appointed authority on James Brown.  |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5800
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 04:26 pm: |
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, I don't agree with your take on this matter.
(This is not a take. This is like saying "Water is wet." This is not an opinion.
This is fact. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10735
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 05:33 pm: |
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I repeat: I don't agree with your "take" or your self-serving analogy. Get it?? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5806
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 03:48 pm: |
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This is going to be a big joke. Negroes who are impressed by empty moves by so called elite white institutions just creaming on themselves
Why did they wait til the man was dead til they did this--
If I was his family I would call a halt to the whole thing. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10743
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 04:31 pm: |
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Typical response from someone who doesn't have enough perspective to realize that something can be learned from hearing how white people view James Brown, if indeed all of the participants in this symposium will be white, - which I doubt. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2847
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 04:59 pm: |
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"Let me tell you something. The Albums James Brown Live at the Apollo Vols I, II and III are the symposium."
End of subject..... |
Abm
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Post Number: 9740
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 11:35 pm: |
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It is interesting how White foks quite cleverly manage to create very lucrative INDUSTRIES out of celebrating dead kneegrows whom they didn't give a dayam about when they were alive (e.g., MLK). |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10751
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:36 am: |
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The only people creating an industry out of MLK is his family. And having a symposium on a cultural icon like James Brown is hardly a venture that will reap profits for white people.  |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 954
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:33 am: |
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ABM, Cynique it is appears that people (Black, whites, and the rest), will figure out a way to reap profits off a dead person.
Whites continue to exploit and captilize on Elvis (any of y'all ever been to Graceland?). Tupac has probably released more ablums post mortem that when he did when he was with us.
It is just easier to profit off folks when they are no longer with us.
Folks will continue to make money on The Godfather of Soul long after we are all dust...
I brought a Marvin Gaye Tee-Shirt in Detroit, at the Motown Museum -- It is one of those shirts that people always compliment when I wear it.
I'd be very surprised if Marvin's estate gets a cut.
Are there any Marvin Gaye Symposia?
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10752
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 11:47 am: |
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Of course people capitalize off the dead! But MLK's family incorporated his name so nobody could make money of it but them.
And what is the big deal about a college having a non profit symposium discussing the impact of a R&B legend??? sheeze. I think it would reveal some interesting things in regard to the impression James Brown made on white people, if for no other reason than it could expose more about them than it would about James Brown. Do you guys have no curiosity? Or is it stifled by your paranoid suspicions.  |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 5816
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:15 pm: |
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I think it would reveal some interesting things in regard to the impression James Brown made on white people,
(Why would you or anybody else be interested in that?) |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10757
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Because it can give more insight into the white mentality. And because some people are interested in expanding their minds instead of closing them. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5822
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:47 pm: |
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Because it can give more insight into the white mentality
(How?) |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10758
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 02:47 pm: |
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Whites telling what they liked about James Brown and how they regarded him will give some idea of why they would be drawn to someone as earthy and raw as he was. Maybe his animal magnetism turned them on for reasons they may not realize. I really think black and whites viewed him in a different light. Who knows? That's why having a symposium on him should be interesting. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2869
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 05:14 pm: |
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"Maybe his animal magnetism turned them on for reasons they may not realize. I really think black and whites viewed him in a different light. Who knows?"
Well, hard to say, but they loved him. No doubt. When he came to San Diego some years ago, had he not been on an elevated stage, they would have stanched him off in a fan frenzy. White people from gray headed seniors to young punkers where screaming at the top of their lungs, gyrating their uncoordinated booties, pumping their fists in the air, clapping wildly and shouting for encores. It was great!
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5871
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 10:07 am: |
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I recall Soul Brother #1 saying that, in his last years his audiences were almost all white--same thing you experience when you go to Blues concerts.
In the old days it was the other way around. The first time I saw The Hardest Working Man in Show Business, in 1967, I recall as I was approaching Kiel Auditorium the first thing I saw was a white couple, draining a pint of booze and getting ready to go in.
The few white people who were there, I found when I got inside, had all the front row seats.
Why would white people like James Brown? On the one hand lots of them came up in the Holiness Church and were familiar with the routine.
But the white British teenagers who were at the T.A.M.I. show (where he burned Mick Jagger's ASS!)dug it too.
What was not to like? Only a Cynique would be mystified. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 10848
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 01:53 pm: |
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What about the white people who didn't grow up in holiness churches, or those who weren't white British rockers, who liked James Brown? And there were plenty. Chrishayden continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel in order to discredit a symposium about James Brown. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2884
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 09:03 pm: |
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Rest in peace Soul Brother Number One and master innovator of the funk idiom. The mans impact and influence on contemporary American music can never be overstated.
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