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Sonofbaldwin
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Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 01:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Morris W. O'Kelly engages Nas:

http://thisisthediaspora.blogspot.com
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Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 02:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And the beat goes on.

It's amazing how a configuration of six letters has for centuries continued to provoke controversy, anger and pain.

N I G G E R. It's a powerful word. You have to thrust your tongue against the roof of you mouth to pronounce it and in the act of doing this, a sneer distorts you face.

N i g g er; a - balkanization of the Spanish word for "black". Black, as in night, - a period within a 24-hour time span when there is no sunshine. So, only a new day will dispel the darkness of the word N i g g e r.

In the meantime, nigga, please.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 05:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh well, once again, no surprise. Attempting to intelligently explain and communicate to Negroes the sordid history and purpose of a word that was created to dehumanize and brutally degrade their race since their inception in America, is like trying to persuade a hard core street crack head to trade their pipe for a Hamiltonian Equations text book. Figure the odds..........
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Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 06:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ntfs, my So Cal buddy, how are you doing in the San Diego area with all the wild fires. Here in Long Beach, it's very hot, red haze, and the smell of the fires is in the air. Hope you and family are well.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 06:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

and for all of the aggrandized attempts to get rid of the word...burying a freaking word for goodness sakes, is NOT going to stop white people from using it. Nor will it stop those who are NOT offended by its usage from using it as a term of endearment and comraderie.

The only thing going to extremes of trying to abolish a word does is send a clear message that black people can STILL be HURT by the use of a STUPID WORD. Thereby EMPOWERING those who wish to use the word in a slanderous fashion to CONTINUE to do so! So the very thing you try to prevent you only PERPETUATE!
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Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 08:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is a classic publicity stunt. Nas keeps himself in the media with these antics and we all dance to his tune by writing about it.

White boys can down go down to the record store and as for "ni gger" in front of Black people. Some folks bury the word -- other Nas raises it from the dead.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 03:09 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Ntfs, my So Cal buddy, how are you doing in the San Diego area with all the wild fires."

Thank you Ms. Jackie. I'm OK. It's in the outlaying areas where there is a lot of forestry and brush. I live in the basic SoCal urban sprawl. But there are a number of raging huge fires destroying thousands of acres. Over 256,000 people were displaced from their homes and evacuated. The areas that were burned have very nice homes in the $450,000 and up range. It's very sad. It's not as bad (the fall out) as the fire was a couple years ago. When I came outside, my car was covered in fine brown ash like in Mount St. Helens and the sky was blocked out. It was like a sci-fi movie. You would have to be have here to see it. I had never seen anything like it in person before. The flames can become so large, they leap across the freeways and keep burning and spreading.

"Here in Long Beach, it's very hot, red haze, and the smell of the fires is in the air."

I used to live in Long Beach many years ago. I was in LA every single day roaming around. No idle moments. It is your native city?

"Hope you and family are well."

I'm fine. Thanks again.

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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 03:43 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"and for all of the aggrandized attempts to get rid of the word...burying a freaking word for goodness sakes, is NOT going to stop white people from using it."

A_womon, unfortunately, this is true. But white people are not the problem. There is nothing you can do about them using the word. In fact, a black female friend of mine told me just tonight, about a young white guy who lives above her in her apartment complex. She told me the kid has behavioral problems stemming mostly from immaturity (IHO). Anyway, she reported him to the site manager for doing things he should not have been doing. Long story short, when he found out it was her, he bolted up the stairs, ranting and raving, then opened and slammed his front door three times -screaming at the top of his lungs (three times), "I hate niggers!!!!" Go figure.

But when black people openly (totally oblivious and indifferent to the hetero or homogeneous racial company in ear shot) and refer to other blacks with the same stupid vicious term (that white racists called their parents and grand parents), well, you would be hard pressed to mount an intelligent defense for such behavior. I'll leave it at that because I have be very clear about how I feel about black people happily and gleefully referring to each other with language that was (and still is) used to enslave, dehumanize, degrade and reduce them to a sub-human categorization. Yes, I know I'm the lone voice in the woods in this forum with this word. The popularity and trendy cavalier usage of this disgusting racist epithet is not going to recede because of me. I know this. Attempting to prevent Negroes from degrading themselves and their ancestors with the "N" word would be like attempting to talk bears out of shitting in the woods. Ok, ok. I'm done............


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Sonofbaldwin
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 11:21 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nfts,

You're not the lone voice. I know so many of us embrace this idea that we can neutralize the original meaning of the word by using it in another context. But that seems not only silly to me but also immature. It's tantamount to saying, "Instead of saying 'I love you,' I'm now going to say 'I hate you,' but what I really mean is 'I love you.'" Not only does it cause confusion, but nothing you could possibly conceive removes the original meaning, regardless of context or intent.

I wish African-Americans could see that rather than rejoice at their ability to hold on to and exalt the symbols of the oppressor.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 11:24 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yay! Ntfs and I have another recruit in the "Anti N-word" camp! Welcome, Son!
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 11:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ya'll ain't gonna be able to do nothing about that word.

That word is going to be around when we are all dead.

Especially as long as there are "Good" Niggas.

And so it goes.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

nas has got to do something to keep his name in the hype machine, because he isn't that good anymore. not to mention if you really think about it, when you think of the word n.i.g.ger ... you don't think of every black person you know, you honestly know who you think of when you say it... well Nas apparently fits the bill.

On another note, ntfs you be safe dude. don't do anything crazy like trying to roast marsh mellows and hot dogs just because the ultimate bon fire is blazing there :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 12:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, NTFS, take care!
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 03:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Ya'll ain't gonna be able to do nothing about that word.

That word is going to be around when we are all dead.

Especially as long as there are "Good" Niggas.

And so it goes."


Readers of the forum, take careful note of the aforementioned. This is the archetypal mindset that enables, supports, sustains, encourages and defends the culture of racially self degrading language. The logic seems to be rooted in some form of stealthy approval of Negroes public asceticism and voluntary debasement. I'm confident I'm not the only one who notices this.

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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 03:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"On another note, ntfs you be safe dude. don't do anything crazy like trying to roast marsh mellows and hot dogs just because the ultimate bon fire is blazing there."

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! I'll try not to do so. Just got off the phone with a friend (I haven't turned on the news yet) who said the 5 North freeway is closed. It's a major freeway that goes to LA and all the way up the Western Coast of California. The fire leaped across the the freeway (as I mentioned before) and is now on both sides. People going to LA, Oceanside, Vista, Temecula, etc, (Orange County, LA County, et al) are being rerouted or told to say home. Firemen and volunteers are taking a severe beating. More details to follow........

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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 03:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm confident I'm not the only one who notices this.

(Maybe not. But you ain't nothing)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I still say its DUMB to give a STUPID WORD POWER. BLACK used to be used in a degrading manner too, so was COON, but its ok to use that when describing ourselves. I have asked this question before. How do you differentiate between the two?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 04:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And how is calling people coons any more mature than calling someone my nigga?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 04:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

NT, Let me add my prayers for yours and your family's safety as well!
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 04:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

still say its DUMB to give a STUPID WORD POWER. BLACK used to be used in a degrading manner too, so was COON, but its ok to use that when describing ourselves. I have asked this question before. How do you differentiate between the two?

(THIS is why I keep coming back to this board.

SOMEBODY knows the truth! Soon, all ye shall know)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 05:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ntfs, I'm a Los Angeles Native.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 05:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And how is calling people coons any more mature than calling someone my nigga?

(I was going to let the brother ruminate on this.
NTFS--contemplate all this on the tree of woe--and keep safe)
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 09:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A bunch of dumbass niggas(used to degrade some people on this message board) arguing about the word nigga(used to describe a word that you are arguing about). From now on, since some people can't tell the difference when someone uses this gawdawful word, we should use parenthesis to tell how we mean it. Some times you people tickle the hell out of me. I saw a guy from the old neighborhood in Home Depot. He said, "This nigga heah!" when he saw me. Did I get totally disgusted and punch him in the mouth? Noooooo. Did I give him a 10 minute lecture on how we shouldn't give this word so much power? Noooooo. What on earth did I do? How did I handle this situation? I'll tell you what I did. I took a deep breath. I thought long and hard about what I should do, (about .2 seconds). Then, I raised my pimp hand high and brought it down with thunderous force into his. I pulled him towards me and rapped my left arm around his shoulders so that he could feel the full power and force of my ancestors because I had real love for the fellow man of color and I uttered two words to him. I said, "MY NIGGA!" Funny, he didn't think I was mocking him at all. He didn't get all reminiscent about the plantation, thinking that I was claiming ownership or anything like that. You would think that a dumbass blackass nigga would mistake my intentions, hunh? Y'all stupid. Its just a word. Who gives a damn how white folks use it or intend it. Does it shiver your timbers that much in this day and age? Get over it already. Be mad about something that's worth it. Don't we have enough on our plates already?
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 10:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oprah is against using the word "n i g g e r". Now, if she would just go on her show and say, "Listen, y'all. I've had a change of heart, and because I am omnipotent and omniscient I now declare it OK to use the n-word and all its variations. I have further decided to change the definition of this word, and I now proclaim it to mean "immortal". Seeing as how it won't die and can't be killed, it has become synonymous with the resilient invincible slave descendents it refers to."
Then everybody could bow down and say, "Yes, O divine Oprah, we will obey you cuz you da H.N.I.C.". (And Oprah would probably mutter to a disgruntled Steadman, "shut up, you self-loathing negro.")
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Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 03:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For those who insist that they must use this word to express love: use it until your heart is content. But do not presume to use it to describe me. If you wish to degrade yourself in the name of love, that's fine. But you're not permitted to degrade me in your quest.
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Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 09:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WHAT NIGGA DIED AND LEFT WORD THAT THIS NIGGA HERE COULD GIVE NIGGAS PERMISSION TO DO ANYTHING!!!

signed,
Dat Nigga




Quit playin. You knew I was dat nigga. If I thought I could get away with it I would change my username to datnigga. WTF! SOB, I can't believe that word carries that much importance. And don't give me another one of those beaugois(spelling?)speeches about what the word means. We know. We don't care. YOU let white folks dictate to YOU whats acceptable til YOUR heart is content. Not me. No more than YOU are permitted to permit ME to do anything. In fact, your post sounds kind of white-ish. Soofbaldwin, huh? I'll have to think about that one. Give me a couple days to mull it over, Moonsigns!...I mean S.O.B.....**or do I?**....

to be continued..
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 09:08 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lambd,

James Baldwin, my brother. I'm not surprised you don't know your history. Your lack of knowledge is consistent with that word you love so much.

"Lambd" huh? Yeah. Sheep instead of a shepherd. Not surprising.
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 04:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gee and all the time I thought you were the son of Alec Baldwin. LOL And that's because I didn't know that James Baldwin had any sons since he was gay, and spent half of his time pining after a white lover. tsk-tsk
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Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 10:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He might have spent his life pining after a white lover, but you need to read the Fire Next Time if you doubt his blackness.
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Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 07:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There was hardly any way James Baldwin could deny his blackness but his whole life was full of so much angst about race and sex that you had to wonder if he'd rather have been white and straight.
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No way for me to know who you are, bro. I guess that proves I don't know my history. Especially since your username isn't SonofJAMESbaldwin. I guess that makes me stupid. Yet the tomato remains the same.

"Sheep instead of shepherd"

I'll take that. I never claimed to lead anyone around here. However, I aint trying to PERMIT anyone to say or do a damn thing.

So, Sonofbaldwin. Why bring up daddy, now? You been ashamed of something up until this point?
Maybe you feel like you got something to prove. You aint afraid somebody might mistake you for an average nigga are you? Cause I know you wouldn't PERMIT that!!!

You should change your username to Sonofjoke. Cause that what you are. A clown! Permitting folks to call you this and that! GTF! You aint nothing but a joke to me, boy! Up in here trying to get some props for shyt yo daddy did. Again, GTF, nigga!

"Duh! Him don't know who ma daddy is. Him don't know his history. Duh! Let me introduce to him that I am the spawn of someone semi-famous so I can get some props roun' heah!"

Shhhhhh! Hush!!!!*****whispering*****lambd(the sheep)don't GAF about you o yo daddy, boy. you aint figgered that out, nigga?

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