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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 10:18 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I understand that that pile of toxic waste, Clarence Thomas, has come out with another book whining about his confirmation hearing and blaming racism.

I bet his people wish they had let him die when he was sick.
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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Only a so-called Christian like you would call another human being toxic waste and wish that he had died. Watta hypocrite.
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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 03:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Clarence Thomas, has come out with another book whining about his confirmation hearing and blaming racism."

No surprise. Thomas is such a pathetic hypocritical caricature. He rails and struts his pro-white Republican conservative disdain for affirmative action, when the success of his entire life was created because of affirmative action! This mediocre at best greasy shuffling Negro owes his entire education and selection to the Supreme Court to affirmative action. Had he been a white male, he never would have been allowed to attend Holy Cross, Yale or have his racial political nomination to the Supreme Court become a reality. The mans entire existence is the antithesis and a mockery of the only "black" Supreme Court Justice, Thurgood Marshall.


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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 04:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clarence will go down in history as a tragic figure, - a black man appointed to one of the highest postions in the land, yet a someone ostracized by his own people. That's his tainted legacy.
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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 09:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clarence's wife is white, thus his clouded vision is understandable.
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 11:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clarence's wife is white, thus his clouded vision is understandable

(He left a black woman and family for her--another O.J. Simpson)

caricature. He rails and struts his pro-white Republican conservative disdain for affirmative action, when the success of his entire life was created because of affirmative action! This mediocre at best greasy shuffling Negro owes his entire education and selection to the Supreme Court to affirmative action

(This is the part of his story that makes me deny him even the courtesy I'd give a pack of maggots.

This is why lots of blacks are not concerned that other blacks get "educated" and "get ahead"--they turn traitor!

Clarence will go down in history as a tragic figure

(An EVIL figure, along with Judas Iscariot and Quisling his name will be synonymous with TRAITOR!
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 11:51 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Only a so-called Christian like you would call another human being toxic waste and wish that he had died. Watta hypocrite

(When I throw a rock in a pack of dogs the only one hollers is the one whose been hit.

A little too close for comfort isn't it?)
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 12:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, it's not too close for comfort, chrishayden. Your analogy is totally flawed. But what can I expect from someone with your twisted logic.
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Trey Ellis
Clarence Thomas: Nobody Knows the Trouble He's Seen
Posted October 1, 2007 | 11:41 AM (EST)


Read More: Clarence Thomas, Clarence Thomas book, Clarence Thomas My Grandfather's Son,



You have to feel sorry for the judge. Like George Bush he has failed upwards until the poor guy is now hopelessly out of his league. Unlike our president, however, he doesn't have to pretend to understand the complexities of his job for just eight years and then retire to the back nine. Poor Clarence is stuck there for life. He seems caught in some sort of chilling Twilight Zone episode, cursed for what he wished for. His new memoir, My Grandfather's Son,"is yet another sad chapter in his lifetime of self-hate.

Am I being too hard or condescending on what should be one of the wisest people in the nation? How else do you explain his terror of asking a single question from the bench? His excuse is that the other justices "talk too much."

It's called doing their job.

They arrive with questions that need to be answered, instead of dogma that needs to be adhered to. Justice Thomas is clearly that terrified kid in every class that knows that if he opens his mouth everyone will realize that he didn't understand today's lesson. Instead of being a beacon of pride for young black kids that, like him, might have been raised in poverty, he is an embarrassment.

His supporters point to his writings, but back in his chambers he is backed up by clerks who are some of our very smartest legal minds. Kato Kaelin could sign off on their briefs and sound like he knew what he was talking about.

George Bush the First's appointment of a black man who was patently unqualified to the highest bench is exactly what affirmative action is not supposed to be about. The point is to open up gatekeepers like elite law schools and medical schools. Once the students graduate, however, they, and every other job applicant has to rise to a certain standard. My sister is a heart surgeon. Nobody is going to let her cut somebody open just to fill a quota. She has to be excellent at what she does. The bar for a lifetime appointment to our highest bench should have been just as high.

My mom went to Yale law school a few years after Thomas, after having graduated Magna Cum Laude from Howard. She was a thirty-five-year-old black mother of two teenaged kids. She knew she was brilliant, the best of the best, and thrilled at debating the other students. She never once said, "Oh, I'm only here because they needed a brown body. I really belong at the DeVry College of Law."

And that's how she raised me. Old school. Yes, racism still exists, she would tell me. So a B+ might do for the white boys, but you have to be that much better. How pathetic is it that Clarence Thomas writes that he graduated from Yale Law School with his head hanging low, convinced that the world knew that his diploma came with an asterisk of inferiority? When my mom's friends graduated they burst out of law school ready to kick ass and take names.

The most odious part of Thomas's memoir is his continued insistence that his contentious confirmation hearings elevate him to the canon of tragic black heroes like Native Son's Bigger Thomas and To Kill a Mockingbird's Tom Robinson. As Jane Meyer and Jill Abramson clearly demonstrate in their book, Strange Justice, Anita Hill was only one of several and Thomas, now one of the twelve highest judges in our nation, lied repeatedly during his confirmation hearings. The bitterness that seems to be eating away at him and spews out of this book might stem from the fact that he was the head of the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission while he was sexually harassing Anita Hill and he is now sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America because he lied his ass off in the United States Senate.

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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 01:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Only time will tell, whether history will refer to Clarence Thomas as an evil betrayer rather than a tragic failure. Nobody has an objective opinion about this man. Conservatives love him.
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 03:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Clarence's wife is white, thus his clouded vision is understandable."

Naw. His wife being white has nothing to do with it. He was already damaged enough without her. It's like saying his wife caused his lung cancer after he smoked 4 packs of cigarettes a day for twenty years.

"He left a black woman and family for her--another O.J. Simpson"

And that's the white woman's fault? No man can leave his family for another person unless the man doing it "decides" to do so. This also applies to Negroes who refuse to support or contribute to the well being of their children. The American Negro is the only group on the planet that has near seventy percent of their children born out of wed lock. Leaving single mothers to raise and support them alone or with help from the government. At no time in human history has a group voluntarily walked away from the responsibility of raising their own off spring.

"This is why lots of blacks are not concerned that other blacks get "educated" and "get ahead"--they turn traitor!"

Uhhhhhhh......what's the flavor of smoke today Chris? Education and so-called getting ahead turns one into a traitor? Oh really? According to your assertion, I guess Thurgood Marshall, Dorthy Height, John Hope Franklin, Constance Baker Motley, Guy Bluford, W. E. B. Dubois, Frederick S. Humphries and Arlie Petters are all race tratiors?? Uh huh.....I see. So I guess the antidote is illiteracy and self sustaining ignorance so "we can keep it real". Correct?

"Clarence will go down in history as a tragic figure."

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Not hardly. Did you not see Sixty Minutes last night? They did a special on him for more than a hour. Contrary to what you believe, a lot of people like this man. Whites believe he is the answer to unruly trouble making Negroes like Jackson and Sharpton. They feel he is the proper role model for whining race card playing lazy Negroes. They also seem to believe they are better suited to pick role models for black people. In their opinion, Clarence Thomas is the perfect non-rabble rousing hard working affirmative action free Negro. Just the opposite of what American blacks see him as. But he will be remembered as a sterling example of independence from race politics and a self reliant hard working exemplary Negro -by whites.

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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 04:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's true about how he ranks with some whites, but white liberals cite what a mediocre jurist Thomas is, and how he depends on his clerks to shore up the opinions he writes as he marches in lock step with the other conservatives on the court. This segment of the white population look upon Thomas as a boot-licking lackey. And any honest historian will have to take into consideration how the prestiege of his office never earned him the respect of the people he came from. IMO.
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"That's true about how he ranks with some whites, but white liberals cite what a mediocre jurist Thomas is, and how he depends on his clerks to shore up the opinions he writes as he marches in lock step with the other conservatives on the court."

Interesting you should say that. I just watched Laura Ingraham (hard line Republican conservative radio talk show pundit) go to bat for Thomas. She railed away at the evils and political degeneracy of liberals for their efforts to discredit Thomas. Bill O'Reilly and Ingraham extolled the virtues and impartial accuracy of FOX channel news (vice ABC, CNN, CBS, New York Times, et al) and the failure of the loony left to prevent this great independent thinker from the Supreme Court. They both are very happy and proud that Clarence Thomas does not, "....see the world as Thurgood Marshall did", (Laura Ingraham quote). Tomorrow, they will show an interview of Thomas by the ultra right wing Republican attack dog Sean Hannity. Get your barf bags ready...........

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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 10:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clarence Thomas sounds like your typical Negro male with money.
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Ntfs:

"Naw. His wife being white has nothing to do with it."

A sarcastic ply is what was being referred to. I think you missed the point. Or better yet, perhaps I should have just spelled it out, as in: he's got other issues.
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"Clarence Thomas sounds like your typical Negro male with money."

SS, being a black male with money has nothing to do with it. For record, Thomas is the poorest member of the court. Most black males with money do not have the deep rooted racial issues and schizophrenia this charlatan has. Thomas made so many contradictory assertions and statements I had to turn my head in the opposite direction most of the time while listening to him. The man is pathetic. But he is the darling of conservative white Republicans. They love him and will defend him to the death.

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From today's Huffington Post


Yes, it was the first President Bush who nominated Clarence Thomas to succeed civil rights legend Thurgood Marshall - but it was Democrats in the Senate who put him on the court. The teeth-gnashing facts about Clarence Thomas's confirmation can be found in the new book by Washington Post reporters Kevin Merida and Michael Fletcher, Supreme Discomfort: The Divided Soul of Clarence Thomas. The vote in the Senate on Thomas was 52-48 - the smallest margin for any justice in more than a century. A shift of three votes would have kept Thomas off the court.

Here's the horrible part: at least four senators who voted for Thomas came to regret their vote within a year or two. Merida and Fletcher report that the senators who changed their mind about Thomas after voting for him include David Boren, Democrat of Oklahoma; John Breau, Democrat of Louisiana; Fritz Hollings, Democrat of South Carolina, and Warren Rudman, Republican of New Hampshire.

Even some of Thomas's most avid defenders stopped saying he told the truth about Anita Hill; Orrin Hatch told Merida and Fletcher that, even if Anita Hill told the truth, what she said about Thomas sexually harassing her wasn't really all that bad.

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Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 01:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This guy did not add Joe Biden to the list.

Anita Hill was not the only woman he subjected to this. There were SEVERAL willing to testify and pussy ass Joe Biden wouldn't let them do it, giving the impression ever after that Anita Hill was the only one.

The Democrats are not fit to govern this country they are too cowardly.
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"The Democrats are not fit to govern this country they are too cowardly."

Well, that's certainly worth thinking about........
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Thomas' impassioned speech about him being the victim of a "high-tech lynching" may have prompted some Democratic senators to give him a pass because they felt the statement Thomas made in his defense was to a certain extent true.
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Oooooooooh, Mzuri. Come out, come out wherever you are and say "I told you so". But if Republicans take the presidency, it will be by default, not because they are smart. LOL.
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It seemed to me that nobody believed that a black woman should object to talk like this--that somehow she should just take it--after all, she's black. What should she care about some porno talk?
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I've always thought that Clarence was as guilty as sin, sans smirk. The mere thought of being kicked out of the Washington insider club that is headed by the power elite is enough to send shivers down his spine. When I watch him interview, I see deceipt written all over his face. IMO, he thinks that everyone else is stupid. What an idiot. I'll give him credit for one thing, and that is at least he understands that the black is never going to rub off.
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sausageswallower wrote: Clarence Thomas sounds like your typical Negro male with money.

you are the most racist (and dumbest) person to ever breath air.
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at this point i dont care what the man does he is what he is, same goes for Ward Connerly. but i can tell you this, if they where on fire i wouldn't even piss on either of them to save their lives.

(might even leave get some pop corn and come back to watch the rest of the boon fire)
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ROTFLOL. I really missed your brief break, Dobes. Don't stay away so long next time.
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Chrishayden wrote:
George Bush the First's appointment of a black man who was patently unqualified to the highest bench is exactly what affirmative action is not supposed to be about.

I saw the 60 Minute Show too, and I don't get how he thought his degree, from Yale was worthless, and he's upset that he was seen as unqualified, as he only filled a quota or slot for admission, but somehow got good enough grades to graduate (did all his professors give him passing grades because of his race?) but then his nomination to the Court is different, and unlike his degree, which was thrown into the basement, he didn't politely decline when asked or has stepped down. He's against affirmative action, but have benefited from it, and continues to do so, and somehow that's okay. If he thinks that people are just giving him something, he doesn't deserve or is unqualified to receive, then he can always decline the offering. He's too old to be that uncomfortable with himself.
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Sixty Minutes spent nearly a whole HOUR talking to that fool Clarence Thomas and they didn't ask him a dayam thing of substance about his VOTING RECORD on the Supreme Court.

Nothing about his voting on the Michigan Law school Affirmative Action Case.

Nothing about his voting Bush Jr. into the White House.

*SMGDH*

Ed Bradley and Harry Reasoner most be roling over in their graves.
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"I saw the 60 Minute Show too, and I don't get how he thought his degree, from Yale was worthless, and he's upset that he was seen as unqualified, as he only filled a quota or slot for admission, but somehow got good enough grades to graduate (did all his professors give him passing grades because of his race?)......."

Exactly. I saw it also. I believe Thomas was misleading in his attempt to suggest as a black man with a law degree from Yale, somehow, to potential employers, this is an aberration of nature and thus suspect. Thomas suggested this situation lays at the feet of white liberals who are responsible for affirmative action and thus the shroud of less than qualified assumption because an individual is black. This argument is criminally flawed. First of all, it is bigoted white conservatives who assumed he could not attain a law degree from Yale because he was black -not white liberals.

Secondly, why would the mere fact that a young black man, who shows up at the door with a law degree from Yale, means he did not attain the degree legitimately or was not academically on par with his white class mates? WHY???? In order to make such an assumption, the individuals doing so were already racist! WHAT WAS THE CRTIERIA THEY JUDGED HIM ON? HIS SKIN COLOR AND NOTHING ELES!

They knew absolutely nothing about him other than the fact he was black and graduated from Yale. NOTHNG ELSE! Yet they "assumed" he could not have done so on his own merit. Bottom line: These people were conservative white racists and it did not matter if he had an SAT score of 1750 or that he was at the top of his class. He was black! And in their minds, black people can't do such things! Thomas never entertained such a possibility. End of subject.

".....but then his nomination to the Court is different, and unlike his degree, which was thrown into the basement, he didn't politely decline when asked or has stepped down. He's against affirmative action, but have benefited from it, and continues to do so, and somehow that's okay."

True. Bush Sr. said he nominated Thomas because he was the best possible candidate. This is easy. Answer this question: Of all the possible brilliant and experienced white Federal judges and legal minds, Clarence Thomas was potentially the best of them all???? WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FUCKIN' MIND WOULD BELIEVE THAT? What existed in Thomas's life up to that point, would suggest he was richly experienced in jurisprudence or constitutional law??? Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! E'nuff said...........



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