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Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:27 am: | 
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O.J. Simpson Ordered Held Without Bail
Sep 17, 7:58 AM (ET)
LAS VEGAS (AP) - An apparent audiotape of O.J. Simpson's standoff with men he accused of stealing his memorabilia begins with the ex-NFL star demanding, "Don't let nobody out this room. ... Think you can steal my (expletive) and sell it?"
Simpson was arrested Sunday and booked at a county jail on charges connected with what police described as a robbery at a Las Vegas hotel. A judge ordered Simpson be held without bail, Sgt. John Loretto said. A court date was set for Thursday.
In an audiotape released Monday by the celebrity news Web site TMZ.com, Simpson is heard shouting questions while other men shout orders to the men in the room.
TMZ said the recording was made on a handheld recorder belonging to Thomas Riccio, co-owner of the auction house Universal Rarities. Riccio did not immediately return a call for comment Monday.
Simpson has said Riccio called him several weeks ago to say some collectors were selling some of his items. Riccio set up a meeting with collectors under the guise that he had a private collector interested in buying Simpson's items.
Riccio told the site he believed Simpson was planning to confront Alfred Beardsley, who was allegedly planning to auction off Simpson memorabilia. The site said the objects of Simpson anger were Beardsley and another collector, Bruce Fromong.
Simpson he was accompanied by men he met at a wedding cocktail party, and they took the collectibles. Fromong said Simpson was the last of the men to enter the hotel room.
"O.J. was the last person I was expecting to see and when I saw him I was just thinking, 'O.J., how can you be this stupid?'" Fromong told CBS's "The Early Show."
He said Simpson left him a voice mail message after the alleged robbery telling him some of Fromong's things were "mixed up" with his and asking how he could give them back.
"It's like a bad dream," said Beardsley. "I'm sad that O.J. is in custody."
Simpson said the dispute was merely a confrontation with no guns. He said autographed sports collectibles, his Hall of Fame certificate, a photograph with former FBI director J. Edgar Hoover and video from his first wedding were all his, and that they were stolen from him and were about to be fenced by unethical collectors.
Police said they were not sure who owned the memorabilia. But they say the manner in which the goods were taken was under investigation.
"Whether or not the property belonged to Mr. Simpson or not is still in debate," Lt. Clint Nichols said Sunday. "Having said that, the manner in which this property was taken, we have a responsibility to look into that, irregardless of who the property belonged to."
After being whisked away in handcuffs, Simpson was booked Sunday night on two counts of robbery with a deadly weapon, two counts of assault with a deadly weapon, and conspiracy to commit a crime and burglary with a firearm, police said.
The district attorney said he expected Simpson to ultimately be charged with seven felonies and one gross misdemeanor.
If convicted of the booking charges, Simpson would face up to 30 years in state prison on each robbery count alone.
Simpson attorney Yale Galanter told The Associated Press late Sunday that he would fight the charges vigorously.
"We believe it is an extremely defensible case based on conflicting witness statements, flip-flopping by witnesses and witnesses making deals with the government to flip," Galanter said.
Beardsley said he blames the incident on Riccio, who he claims told Simpson that his property was in the room in Las Vegas.
"If they don't charge Riccio I will be very upset. That guy lied to O.J. and got him all pumped up," he said.
Beardsley said the people that should be blamed are Riccio and Mike Gilbert, the former Simpson agent who he alleged stole memorabilia from Simpson.
At one point on the tape, after Simpson yells, "Think you can steal my (expletive)?" an unidentified voice responds, "Mike took it."
"I know (expletive) Mike took it," Simpson says.
At least one man can be heard ordering others around the room, saying, "You, against the (expletive) wall.
Simpson, 60, told The Associated Press that he did not call the police to help reclaim the items because he has found the police unresponsive to him ever since his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ron Goldman were slain in 1994.
"The police, since my trouble, have not worked out for me," he said, noting that whenever he has called the police "It just becomes a story about O.J."
Police did not allege that Simpson carried a weapon in the incident.
"We don't have any information to lead us to believe he was armed even based on those charges," Nichols said.
Police said they seized two firearms involved in the robbery along with sports memorabilia, mostly signed by Simpson. They also said they recovered collectible baseballs and Joe Montana cleats at private residences early Sunday after serving three search warrants.
Walter Alexander, 46, of Mesa, Ariz., was arrested Saturday night on two counts of robbery with a deadly weapon, two counts of assault with a deadly weapon, conspiracy to commit robbery and burglary with a deadly weapon. Alexander, who was described as one of Simpson's golfing buddies, was released without bail Saturday night.
"Walter was one of the two subjects who had a gun," Dillon said.
Robert Dennis Rentzer, a Los Angeles lawyer representing Alexander, said he was able to arrange his client's release from custody, but wasn't familiar with the allegations.
Police are seeking four other men: Las Vegas residents Clarence Stewart, 53, and Michael McClinton, 49; Tom Scotto, of unknown age and hometown, and another man who was not identified.
Simpson, a Heisman Trophy winner and actor, lives near Miami and has been a tabloid staple since his ex-wife and Goldman were killed. Simpson was acquitted of murder charges, but a jury later held him liable for the killings in a wrongful death civil suit. He was ordered to pay $33.5 million.
Goldman's father, Fred Goldman, welcomed the possibility that Simpson could go to prison.
"How wonderful," he told "The Early Show."
"A lot of years too late, however. I would have much preferred him found guilty of Ron and Nicole's death and then put either to death or in jail then. But frankly to see him ultimately or potentially go to jail - that's great."
Simpson's arrest came just days after the Goldman family published a book that Simpson had written under the title, "If I Did It" about how he would have committed the killings of his ex-wife and Goldman had he actually done it.
After a deal for Simpson to publish it fell through, a federal bankruptcy judge awarded the book's rights to the Goldman family, who retitled it "If I Did It: The Confessions of the Killer." During the weekend, the book was the hottest seller in the country, hitting No. 1 on Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com.
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 5750
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:11 pm: |
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Poor O.J. All that college education, Navy Seals training, street knowledge and the negro forgot that you can't take the law into your own hands unless there is some eminent danger about to go down.
As many lawyers as he has, you would think that he could have put some sort of a levy against these people to get his stuff back, if he was even entitled to get it back, which he probably wasn't.
I didn't read all of the article that you posted above but I heard O.J. Momma was late on some storage locker rent and they (the storage locker people) sold the contents at auction, so some of that stuff probably really didn't belong to O.J. anymore at all.
I hope they send the niggga to prison so he can be somebody's b!tch.
LOLs
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Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:28 pm: |
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When that Negro was acquitted by that jury in LA, I made a statement to several friends and acquaintances that he should walk out of the courthouse, get in a car drive to Mexico and never come back.
They all pooh poohed me. "He was found not guilty," they said. "They got to leave him alone."
500 years in this country and black people have learned nothing. Ye shall have your reward--like O.J. Simpson.
That he didn't shows he was innocent and ignorant. They were going to keep on until they got him and he was so stupid and in love with blonde white women that they would.
The lesson?
Remember, he wasn't militant. He was't political. The day before his wife was found murdered if you had told some white folks he was no good they would have accused you of hating on those of your race that succeed.
This could happen to any of us. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:33 pm: |
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According to one defense attorney, in attempting to retrieve memorabilia that belonged to him, OJ would be guilty of no crime because, technically, a person can't steal property from himself. And if OJ wasn't carrying a weapon and was unaware that his accomplices were, he may be able to beat the rap. Go figure. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:46 pm: |
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According to one defense attorney, in attempting to retrieve memorabilia that belonged to him, OJ would be guilty of no crime because, technically, a person can't steal property from himself.
(Of course a defense attorney will say any damn thing to get his client off.
If someone has PROPERTY which belongs to me, even if they have wrongfully taken it, I cannot repossess it if that will resort in violence or breaking of the peace.
I must contact a police officer to do so, and if he or she will not do it then I have to go to court.
If what the defense attorney said was true, a landlord could go into an apartment and bodily throw a tenant out on his ear, which you cannot do
Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:55 pm: |
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Poor O.J. All that college education, Navy Seals training, street knowledge
(I can't let this go.
As far as college goes that Negro was just there to play football. His professors say he never showed to class and they were glad because he always disrupted class when he showed up.
He is probably functionally illiterate (does he even have a degree?)
The navy seals training was just BS that
Dumbo Darden and Moanin Marcia Clark made up so that idiots would believe he could cut two peoples throats without getting blood all over him.
The street smarts? He might have had them once but he hung around white folks until he lost them--else he would have never married that hamburger flipper and got caught up with her family. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 01:19 pm: |
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I'd take the word of a defense attorney over a shyster like you, chrishayden. The memorbilia in question were personal items of OJ's that had been stolen from him, things like his trophies, the suit he wore when he received the not guility verdict, the knife he used to slash his wife's throat, etc. I'm surprised you wouldn't grasp at this straw to defend OJ since you are such a blubbering die-hard fan and sympathizer of his. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 01:19 pm: |
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So we are in agreement that O.J. = D.M.B.
LOLs |
Cynique
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And your analogy about the landlord throwing a tenant out of his apartment is not applicable to what OJ did, chrishayden. I think OJ actually thought he was conducting a citizen's sting operation. |
Nels
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He should have just gone to the Las Vegas PD and filed a complaint regarding his memorabilia. They would have followed up and the alleged 'thief' probably would have been in cuffs instead of O.J. Some would say - stupid move Juice, any way you cut it. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 01:35 pm: |
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Far be it from me to defend OJ, but he claims, and it's probably true, that police departments always dismiss any complaints or requests he makes to them because of who he is. tsk-tsk |
Mzuri
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What the heck is a citizen's sting operation? Wouldn't that be a neighborhood watch or something. It surely can't be gathering up a bunch of your thug friends and busting into someone's hotel room, in the middle of a ritzy upper crusty Las Vegas resort. He could have even called hotel security but instead - he did what O.J. does - seek out his own cockamamie vengeance.
The authorities need to keep his dumb ass in jail, let him mop some floors and scrub some toilets for a while. Maybe then he can come back down to Earth.
You can't stick people up at gunpoint to retrieve your perceived personal items. Maybe a kidnapped child or something, but not trophies and crap.
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Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 01:45 pm: |
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Since we established that OJ is dumb, then we have to attribute what he thought to his ignorance. Again I repeat what the defense attorney said: If OJ didn't have a gun, he was not sticking anybody up. He knocked on the door and was allowed entry by the guy, after which he demanded what belonged to him back. |
Abm
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I'm really CTFU at the notion of them holding OJ without bail for THIS.
Man. That sh*t is PRICELESS!!!! |
Mzuri
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You must not have seen Geraldo over the weekend. He interviewed some white man who helped O.J. locate the supposed belongings. He was a witness to what transpired and he said that O.J. gathered a group of thugs together down in the lobby and they all went up to the hotel room together. And so it doesn't really matter whether O.J. himself was pointing the gun, he orchestrated the whole thing, and had some goons with him to carry it out. Those goons were his agents, acting in his behalf. This is referred to as a criminal conspiracy among other things. And unfortunately for O.J., dumbness and/or ignorance of the law is not a valid defense.
Here's the dummy's mug shot:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0916071oj1.html
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Cynique
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No, I heard this defense attorney being interviewed on the "Today" show. OJ says he didn't know his hench men were carrying guns. This will have to be proven differently in a court of law. The guy whose room he invaded defended OJ at first and said he didn't threaten him. But it will all come out in court. |
Robynmarie
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In O.J.'s own words, here's how it went down:
http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1184669299 |
Cynique
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LMAO. See what happens when you steal somebody's shit??? |
Robynmarie
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LOL^^ |
Mzuri
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Normally when I tell motherfuckers to get their backs up against the wall, me and my goons are packing heat (do people still say that anymore?)
so I don't believe shit that O.J. is saying about they didn't have no guns
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Doberman23
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oj could have stayed at home and did nothing but hide away (which he should have done) and they still would've tried to pin something on him. what a fool he was to think he would ever be free, even jay walking would have been a big mistake for him. i don't feel sorry for him though, because stupid is what stupid does. (forrest gump?) |
Schakspir
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Cynique: the knife he used to slash his wife's throat...
LOL |
Doberman23
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he should be able to get out of this, or at the least serve minimal jail time. obviously they where selling his stuff. if i where oj's lawyer i would say the cops hate oj and weren't going to help him. |
Yvettep
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OJ...toast... Darn! This thread is apparently not about breakfast. :-( |
Cynique
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Looks like the law is getting ready to put the squeeze on OJ. |
Chrishayden
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You must not have seen Geraldo over the weekend
(Geraldo. It was a set up. Case closed) |
Chrishayden
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he should be able to get out of this, or at the least serve minimal jail time.
(If it wasn't OJ, this would be what would happen. But it is OJ--who is more dangerous that Al Quaeda and Osama Bin Laden)
obviously they where selling his stuff. if i where oj's lawyer i would say the cops hate oj and weren't going to help him.
(The cops probably set him up) |
Ntfs_encryption
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"The cops probably set him up."
Yep. And the WMD's are still in Iraq! Hint; They are located on a large 16 wheel flat bed truck with a yellow tarp over it. It's sitting in front of Camp Victory (US military complex near the Baghdad International Airport). You didn't know about this?
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Chrishayden
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The cops probably set him up."
Yep. And the WMD's are still in Iraq
(so cops never set anybody up. I suppose in the world of the Internet Negro, they don't.
I remember not long after the first OJ case talking to a cop. He was talking about how he would never set anybody up. Then he proceeded to tell me how if he saw a pimp or a dope dealer or gangster going down the street he'd stop him, walk around back, f*ck up his license plate and run him in for having improper plates.
I wonder what else he might have done if he wanted to get somebody?
You better hope no white woman ever accuses you of rape or you will get a crash course in how it T-I-Z. |
Cynique
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If you aren't a pimp, a drug dealer or murder suspect, your chances of being set up are considerably less. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 03:19 pm: |
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If you aren't a pimp, a drug dealer or murder suspect, your chances of being set up are considerably less.
(Only a fool would think he only did this to pimps, drug dealers or murder suspects.
He did it to anybody he wanted
I swear these computers lower people's intelligence.
There you are from the Chicago area--THE CENTER of police corruption and you are babbling like June Cleaver) |
Cynique
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Keep you silly-assed anecdotal arguments to yourself, crissy. In the big picture, those engaged in criminal activities stand more of a chance to be set up that those who don't. Is that so hard for your lame brain to absorb. |
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