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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 02:37 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Vick suspended indefinitely without pay

By DAVE GOLDBERG and LARRY O'DELL, Associated Press Writers

No matter how nuanced his confession for involvement in dogfighting, Michael Vick got no leniency Friday from the NFL.

Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended the Atlanta Falcons quarterback indefinitely without pay, just hours after Vick filed a plea agreement that portrayed him as less involved than three co-defendants and guilty mainly of poor judgment for associating with them.

Vick acknowledged bankrolling gambling on the dogfights, but denied placing bets himself or taking any of the winnings. He admitted that dogs not worthy of the pit were killed "as a result of the collective efforts" of himself and two co-defendants.

Goodell wasn't moved and didn't bother to wait until Monday, when U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson will formally accept the plea and set a sentencing date likely to land Vick in prison for one to five years.

The commissioner said Vick's admitted conduct was "not only illegal but also cruel and reprehensible." Even if he didn't personally place bets, Goodell said, "your actions in funding the betting and your association with illegal gambling both violate the terms of your NFL player contract and expose you to corrupting influences in derogation of one of the most fundamental responsibilities of an NFL player."

Goodell freed the Falcons to "assert any claims or remedies" to recover $22 million of Vick's signing bonus from the 10-year, $130 million contract he signed in 2004.

The commissioner didn't speak to Vick but based his decision on the court filings. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Goodell may meet with Vick in the future, and Goodell said he would review the suspension after all the legal proceedings.

"You have engaged in conduct detrimental to the welfare of the NFL and have violated the league's personal conduct policy," Goodell told Vick in a letter after meeting in New York with Falcons president and general manager Rich McKay.

"You are now justifiably facing consequences for the decisions you made and the conduct in which you engaged. Your career, freedom and public standing are now in the most serious jeopardy," Goodell wrote. "I hope that you will be able to learn from this difficult experience and emerge from it better prepared to act responsibly and to make the kinds of choices that are expected of a conscientious and law abiding citizen."

Falcons owner Arthur Blank supported Goodell's decision and said:

"We hope that Michael will use this time, not only to further address his legal matters, but to take positive steps to improve his personal life."

Nike, meantime, said it terminated its contract with Vick.

Earlier Friday in Richmond, Va., a "summary of facts" signed by Vick was filed along with his written plea agreement on a federal dogfighting conspiracy charge.

"While Mr. Vick is not personally charged with or responsible for committing all of the acts alleged in the indictment, as with any conspiracy charge, he is taking full responsibility for his actions and the actions of the others involved," the defense team said in a written statement after the plea agreement was filed.

"Mr. Vick apologizes for his poor judgment in associating himself with those involved in dog fighting and realizes he should never have been involved in this conduct," the statement said.

Vick and his lawyers said his involvement was limited when it came to the enterprise known as the Bad Newz Kennels.

"Our position has been that we are going to try to help Judge Hudson understand all the facts and Michael's role," Vick's defense attorney, Billy Martin, said in telephone interview. "Michael's role was different than others associated with this incident."

Vick's summary of facts said he provided most of the Bad Newz Kennels operation and gambling monies, echoing language in plea agreements by the three co-defendants — Tony Taylor, Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips.

When the dogs won, the statement said, gambling proceeds were generally shared by Taylor, Peace and Phillips.

"Vick did not gamble by placing side bets on any of the fights. Vick did not receive any of the proceeds of the purses that were won by Bad Newz Kennels," the court document said.

According to the statement, Vick also was involved with the others in killing six to eight dogs that did not perform well in testing sessions last April. The dogs were executed by drowning or hanging.

"Vick agrees and stipulates that these dogs all died as a result of the collective efforts" of Vick, Phillips and Peace, the statement said.

In the plea agreement, the government committed to recommending a sentence on the low end of the federal sentencing guideline range of a year to 18 months. However, the conspiracy charge is punishable by up to five years in prison, and the judge is not bound by any recommendation or by the guidelines.

Hudson has a reputation for imposing stiff sentences, according to lawyers who have appeared in his court. The judge will set a sentencing date at Monday's hearing.

Martin said Vick will "speak to the public and explain his actions." Though he declined to say when and where, the Tom Joyner Morning Show, a syndicated program based in Dallas, said it will have a live interview with Vick on Tuesday.

The case began in April when authorities conducting a drug investigation of Vick's cousin raided a Surry County property owned by Vick and found dozens of dogs, some injured, and equipment commonly used in dogfighting.

A federal indictment issued in July charged Vick, Peace, Phillips and Taylor with an interstate dogfighting conspiracy. Vick initially denied any involvement, and all four men pleaded innocent. The three co-defendants later pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against Vick.

Taylor was the first to change his plea, saying Vick financed the dogfighting ring's gambling and operations. Peace and Phillips soon followed, alleging that Vick joined them in killing dogs that did not measure up in test fights.

The sickening details outlined in the indictment and other court papers prompted a public backlash against Vick, who had been one of the NFL's most popular players.

Animal-rights groups mobilized against Vick — even protesting at NFL headquarters in New York — and sponsors dropped him.

"It is fitting that the NFL has suspended him," said Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States. "He's now a role model for something terrible, and it's not appropriate


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Chrishayden
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh yeah, he'll be in disgrace--until somebody needs a good quarterback and he wins the Superbowl and then the Falcolns will be criticized for letting him go--

We got a negro here on the Rams who killed somebody--a human being-- driving drunk and he's still playing
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 11:52 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He shouldn't be broke. He has enough money to purchase a few businesses....if he hasn't spent it all on legal defense, cars, houses, and jewelry.
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 11:55 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He shouldn't be broke. He has enough money to purchase a few businesses....if he hasn't spent it all on legal defense, cars, houses, and jewelry.

(If it ain't gone now it will be in a few months)
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 01:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"....until somebody needs a good quarterback and he wins the Superbowl and then the Falcolns will be criticized for letting him go--"

I seriously doubt that...
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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 01:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Falcons have announced that they may get him to cough up that 20 million signing bonus--

What was it Cynique was saying about him having all this money?
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wasn't Vick earning an 6-figure salary in addition to his bonus? When I said he was financially secure, I was quoting what a sports pundit had said. He could probably pawn some of his bling and still lead a comfortable life.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 02:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


And if all else fails, he could just be a stud muffin :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 01:34 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

stud muffin with herpes?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 03:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

EU!
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 04:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


He's the one with the herpes? And he was still given the star treatment after all of that mess? See, that's what's wrong with the NFL and all these corporations - they should have dumped his ass after that scandal instead of sweeping it under the rug and waiting for the other shoe to drop. I have no more love for Michael Vick. Fukc him.


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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 04:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yeah he was the one. i will say this about mike vick, he is a talented individual on the grid iron, he has made a lot of mistakes on and off the field. there's no doubt that the people around him have not helped him get wiser with age, the hangers on just saw him as dollar signs and a way to get some free stuff when they name dropped.
i think he has been getting away with a lot of stuff for quite some time, this time, the stuff finally caught up with him. everyone can be touched and it's unfortunate that he had to find out the hard way, but it is a lesson that he needed to learn because if it wasn't for the dog fighting it would have been something else sooner or later.

anyways i still hope for the best for him, i hope he can come back better than ever, once he pays his debt to society. i don't think the naacp should get involved in this, the same way that wouldn't have if it where just tyrone jones if he was in the same situation, they should spend that time, money, and effort on the people who still need to get help from the katrina disaster.

ok... i'm done.. i think the soap box that i was on made me a 7 footer too :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 05:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, you aren't finished yet, Dobes. You have to fill me in on the details of this herpes scandal! The pop culture vulture missed this one!
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

he knowingly gave this girl herpes, while he was in a hotel he used the alter ego or fake name of ron mexico. vick tried to deny that he gave the girl herpes so she took him to court and he lost. he had to pay her an undisclosed amount, she was pretty dumb too, because she was a certified nurse,
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ain't that a bytch! Maybe Vick turned to dog fighting to release his passion since herpes neutralized his sex appeal. This guy is turning into a tragic figure. Now that he's found Jesus maybe he can become an evangelist and show others the error of their ways while passing the collection plate.
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 05:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"he knowingly gave this girl herpes, while he was in a hotel he used the alter ego or fake name of ron mexico. vick tried to deny that he gave the girl herpes so she took him to court and he lost."

Disgusting and indefensible. Yet there is a cabal of Negro race baiters who will this and his dog fighting conviction. The argument: "They be doin' that to drag down and destroy another black man cause he got money." But it's ok. He found God, so all is forgiven.........

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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 09:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That nurse was just as much a skank as Vick. She probably was one of the hanger onners trying to get pregnant so that she could get some of his millions. WHO has unprotected sex these days except some old gold diggin skank trying to trap somebody? SHE ain't innocent by any means! So if she got herpes it's her dumbass fault!
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 09:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok and some old ugly ass, hard up broads that're scared to tell a guy to wrap it up for fear he's gonna leave her desperate ass without giving her the beef!
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 09:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Condoms don't protect you from herpes. He prolly has that mess all up in his mouth and on his balls. You'd have to cover his entire herpesinfestedass with a dropcloth
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 09:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!! OK Here's my new speech---I know this might break the mood dude, but TURN ON THE FLOOD LIGHTS AND DROP YA DRAWS! Lift it up...ok now turn your head and cough! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 10:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


You're so darn funneeee :-)

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