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Sabiana
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Username: Sabiana
Post Number: 190
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 01:02 am: | 
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Okay, so we have the rapper David Banner.
And then we have the Perme Rev. Al Sharpton.
Last week or so, David Banner makes this statement.
F**k Al!
“The next time you see Al Sharpton, tell him I said @#*$ him and he can suck my dick. I might change the name of my album from The Greatest Story Never Told to @#*$ Al Sharpton. I hate Al Sharpton. This is the kind of @#!* that I’m talking about. They’re killing kids in New Jersey and all across the country and all a @#*$% got to talk about is rap lyrics? @#*$ that about they’re our elders and we gotta respect them. I’m tired of this. They’re like the parents, but the parents are crucifying the kids. (Source from SOHH)
And then Al Sharpton's camp shoots back with this.
From time to time we do encounter people that have sexual fantasies about Reverend Al Sharpton, but they are always women and Crump’s proposition is a first. However, in keeping with the National Action Network’s Decency Initiative, I am sure Rev. Sharpton would not call Crump the “N” “B” or “H” word. And, despite Crump’s personal request, I am sure Reverend Sharpton would not call him a f-g–t. He would just pray for him. We at NAN are pro civil rights for everyone, even Levell Crump who has not had a banner year since his debut album in 2003.
Ouch. Hurt much.
Which then leads David Banner to make a more...
Stop Attacking The Kids
To all the black ‘so called leaders’. Al, Oprah, Jesse, etc, etc, etc… I’m saddened by your current direction and current ‘pet projects’ you guys have taken under your wing at the expense of Young Black America. As an urban professional living in this crazy world, I dare ask, who are you leading? I listen to what you say, I hear you complain about the youth, and about the direction of our lives, the kids, and where Black America is going and yet I still ask – who are you guys leading? And most importantly, where are we going? Do we know the goal we are trying to reach before we get there? Have we identified our end before articulating our means to an end! Who are you REALLY reaching? Why do you feel the need to attack the young generation for the things we are doing? “WHO DID WE LEARN THESE THINGS FROM? We are trying to have fun in the midst of our traumatic circumstances. People are trying to make a living by any means necessary, people are voicing their experiences, people are speaking the truth about situations and honestly the truth hurts and sometimes it’s ugly. If music/hip hop/ rappers are wrong with the language they use, the images they portray in their videos – then come talk to us – I use the term ‘us’ as a collective because I’m defending what I have a passion for so this also involves me. Pull us to the side and say “hey kids, that’s not the way to go” and then we can say “change what we see daily so we cansing and rap about the roses and not about the bullets”. We will say, help give us better situations to create better verbal material”. Don’t just go running off to the media to air the dirty laundry of the family and not expect us to fight back in some kind of way. What you are doing is wrong and it’s pissing off a lot of people with less money and camera
time! Young Black America’s problem is not Hip Hop or the music, Young Black America’s problem is Old White America. In the young black community, there is a growing level of resentment toward the ‘so called leaders’ because you guys DON’T WANT TO REALLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS. You guys don’t really want to be on our side fighting for better school systems, more after school programs, more money for college funding! Where areyou leaders at when there’s a need to break down to freshman in college on how not to get caught up with credit cards by singing up for an MBNA card, with high interest rates that eventually screw up your credit and makes it that much harder for you to become a homeowner after you graduate college pending you can find a job in your field after you’ve spent all this money in student loans! Where are those seminars? Dubois had it right when he spoke of the Talented Tenth! Rally around us to help teach us about THIS life! It’s not our fault that the world is messed up and filled with debauchery. It’s not our fault that our communities are screwed! The problems in our community should not fall on our lap. And if you begin to hold us accountable for simply our words – then I will begin to hold you accountable for your actions; or lack there of. Right is right and wrong is wrong. You as our leaders should have taken a better approach to gaining the attention of those that you are dissatisfied with and had a conversation with them. You don’t scold your child in public without fair warning!
Al Sharpton: You run around towns and cities speaking words of wanting to better our community by cleaning up the airwaves. You hold rallies in front of radio stations saying turn off the music and clean the airwaves. You want to shut down local stations that are playing urban music when most of these local stations house and employ the same people in your community – the black community. When you visit any station in any city (big or small) playing urban/rap music, the staff is generally black. Now if those stations were to ever shut down – where do those employees go? Al, if you are for the people, where was your rally when the 3 college students were executed in New Jersey by black men. Where is the rally atfor those families and that neighborhood??? I don’t see you out there asking for justice yet that incident happened in a black community. If someone was to rap about “how f**** up black on black crime is and how even if you go to college you aren’t safe on the streets and nigga’s aint’ s—” – that kind of tone is offensive to you and you want to stop that! If that’s the truth, then why are you censoring it? No, you need to stop the crime before it happens so that there is no gangster song about a gangster situation.
Oprah: You recently you held a town hall meeting dedicating 2 days of talk to have an open forum about the “Nappy Headed Ho” comment from Imus. Everyone had their 2cents to say and yet the people that needed to REALLY be there were not at all on your panel of ‘experts’. The questions all were about “why use the word ho or b**** or nigga etc” yet the rappers in question ala Nelly, Snoop, Ludacris weren’t anywhere present on your panel. In my eyes you had all the wrong people on there representing and speaking on behalf of other people. Common is great but he’s not gangsta. If you had a problem with the true content of rap songs then where were those that do that kind of rap
100%? You want to talk about change, and about having us not call women in rap songs “bitches” and “hoes” but one thing I noted, you had all men on your panel of executives. Russell is wonderful but he’s not the Zenith when it comes to new school rappers or their new school mentality. Kevin Liles is great but what happened to Sylvia Rhone the head of the label that Nelly is signed to, or Kathy Hughes the head of Radio One or Deborah Lee the head of BET. If the problem really was about women and the “•••••, ho” term being used, where were those ladies to speak on their stance on this issue! They are the ones with the ultimate say pulling all the strings and yet they weren’t dully noted as absent from your panel! Oprah you are suppose to protect us, I can find more harm being done to the black community by the movies and sponsors you promote than any rap song.
Just like your son or daughter, niece or nephew… rappers are just kids growing into their own. They aren’t always right, but they aren’t always wrong either. If our path is misguided, then help us get back on the right road. I’m young, I’m black, and I’m a hard worker. I’m from the hood where mother’s leave their kids in the hands of strangers and never look back, I’ve been with killers, dope dealers, b******, church folk, grandparents, bad parenting from good parents, pushers, junkies, robbers, middleclass workers, but that’s the life I’vebeen around. Gunshots and church hymns usually go hand in hand in most neighborhoods. The grim reality for a lot of kids out there living alone is that life is harsh and cold; kids grow up faster than they want to because they are forced too! Kids are growing up in situations that are f***** up. So the songs we listen to mirror the things we see, the things we dream about and the fantasies we have! Don’t change the songs I listen to, change the circumstance from which it comes from—then the situation will be better!
Growing up in this world of hip hop it’s disheartening to see our ‘so called leaders’ leave us out to dry. Fine you don’t like what we say. Fine disagree with our choice of topics; however, the things we talk about aren’t new. We didn’t invent the term pimps, pushers, hoes, tricks, doobies, nigga’s and gangsta’s. Hip Hop didn’t create that. Those words were left here for us to use by you guys, your generation. This life we are continuing to live was handed to us by the people before us who didn’t do much to clean it up. There may never be a time that we agree on anything, but there is always room for change. As a family – we will agree to disagree but it’s the synergy in which we do it. If you are on one extreme tangent, and I’m on another, we will never meet eye to eye. At the same time, I will not allow you to bash, yell, condemn, and have a condescending tone on my source of refugee and happiness. As you leaders call out the hip hop community saying that we are wrong for what we do and how we do it, I am CALLING EACH OF YOU OUT saying you are wrong for what you are doing to us. How dare you guys not call Nelly, Snoop, Lil Wayne, David Banner, Jim Jones, Akon, Rick Ross, Fabulous, 50 cent, Young Buck, Bun B, Too Short and say lets talk this through. Do you even know who ANY of these people are??????? You are so disconnected from us that we don’t even look at you for guidance. If you really want to change something, start by changing your dialogue. Don’t talk at us, talk to us!
-DAVID BANNER
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On a side note, David Banner does have a legitimate point.
But he also does not adress how much impact WHITE owned companies such as Viacom, etc, have also on commercialized black music. And that 70% of his own audience will be white suburban kids. Or that his experience is not every black child's experience, but okay.
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Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2549
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 04:14 am: |
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I'm a big First Amendment lover but this kinda bullshit pushes the limit of tolerance. Oh well.................... |
Sabiana
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Username: Sabiana
Post Number: 192
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 08:48 am: |
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Ntfs.
Isn't America Great? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5076
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 12:41 pm: |
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I like David Banner
(Real girls get down on tha flo'
LIKE A PIMP!)
But I digress--
This is an age and class thang. Al Sharpton hung around James Brown for years. I am a James Brown fanatic but most of the nigga's songs wuz about sex and dancing--or really nothing.
Now these kids come out with their stupid lyrics and Mr. Do--like most old niggas who can no longer get it up anymore--is tut tutting and righteous.
It is a class thang because the lower classes like this music and the upper class Negroes think it is undignified--as has been the case for the last 200 years.
They wannabe white.
The so called Negro leaders pick on the kids because it is safe--and because as adults it is our duty to be sticks in the mud. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1803
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 02:42 pm: |
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Sabiana you should be kissing David Banner's ass!! Seeing as how he and all the other rappers like him only want to use women that look like you in there videos, magazines, and entourages.
What is the matter Sabiana?? Tired of being used as some "stand-in" White chick for some colorstruck Black man and his homies. Who in turn will only use you until they can find some blonde-headed,plastic booty and breast, skank like Ice-T's wife Coco?? |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2553
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 03:19 pm: |
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"Sabiana you should be kissing David Banner's ass!! Seeing as how he and all the other rappers like him only want to use................
..........colorstruck Black man and his homies. Who in turn will only use you until they can find some blonde-headed,plastic booty and breast, skank like Ice-T's wife Coco??"
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Sabiana
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Username: Sabiana
Post Number: 193
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 07:47 pm: |
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Other than that, I'm quite the brownie! I'm in joy how you assume what others look like on a internet board. (lol).Isn't that a bit colorist? (Yes, I said it.) But okay. Whatever floats your boat.
But hey, do you agree or disagree with David Banner? or Al? You have to agree that Al made a good comeback. (hint, lol)
And hey, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. This is an internet board room if it makes you feel better. Don't get mad or frustrated at anyone else for not joining the "Occult of Kola". Jeez.
And hey again, I'm not trying to pick on you. I don't go with intent, hey, SerenaSailor posted something, I should something mean for laughs because I'm a horrible person. You kinda bring it on yourself. But you've said some pretty good things here, but I can't remember the posts. (I'll look) |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5554
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 09:55 pm: |
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David Banner is gaaaaaaay  |
Sabiana
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Username: Sabiana
Post Number: 194
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 02:45 am: |
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Mzuri, wrong one. Not photo shopped.\
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5086
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 10:09 am: |
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David Banner is gaaaaaaay
(Lots of these rappers are but that is showbizness, where you gotta hold that what somebody does in their private life is their business because lots of them are not straight in one way or the other.
I mean, think about Chuck Berry eating feces and taking and giving them golden showers--though I think he must have been using drugs, too.
He raps good. That's all I know.) |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5559
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:27 am: |
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I heard about Wayne and Baby when that kiss was publicized. Yuck.
To Chris - What people do in their private lives is private - until they make it public. Which they shouldn't do anyway because nobody really cares. Myself, I only care about the private sexual lives of the people in my private sexual life. Everyone else can fukc whomever they choose.
But between David Banner and Al Sharpton, David Banner's got to go.
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 5099
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:49 am: |
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David is the future.
Al is the past. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 5565
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 12:26 pm: |
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You're the past. Now STFU. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2559
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 01:09 am: |
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"David is the future.
Al is the past."
Yep. But only to disillusioned Negroes who residue within the notoriously tragic Coon culture. Big difference...
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Libralind2
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Username: Libralind2
Post Number: 903
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 05:27 pm: |
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I dont have to agree with Banneres comments but he spends a lot of money in the community
LiLi |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2572
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 08:32 pm: |
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"I dont have to agree with Banneres comments but he spends a lot of money in the community."
Doesnt matter. He is still part of one of the most widespread destructive self sustaining cancers that has devastated black folks since slavery. |
A_womon
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Post Number: 1819
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:43 pm: |
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Doesnt matter. He is still part of one of the most widespread destructive self sustaining cancers that has devastated black folks since slavery
Now NT that's some scraight up BUHshit! How many slaves you ever read about got PAID??? |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2577
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 12:34 am: |
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"How many slaves you ever read about got PAID???"
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ok, ok.....That's funny but it is a good point. I was referring to the destructive nature and impact of the situation. That's all. But your point was funny.
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A_womon
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Post Number: 1823
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 02:28 am: |
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NT  |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 2199
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 07:27 pm: |
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Ah. Now I see this is not a thread about the Hulk's alter ego. OK, carry on. LOL |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 09:05 pm: |
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LOL. Good one, Yvette! |
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