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Doberman23
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 04:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i just bought the songs in the key of life and i have to say that this could be the best double cd i ever i bought. i even give it a slight edge over tupac's all eyez on me. i would recommend it for anyone who likes (3rd generation) old school r&b.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 07:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Stevie Wonder has always been a superstar and his music will never go out of style. Is RocketLove in that collection? It's one of my fav Stevie cuts.



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Cynique
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Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 01:07 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Like Marvin Gaye's "What's Goin On" album, Stevie Wonder's "Songs in the Key of Life" is the album that defines his extraordinary musical genius. Stevie will always be "the sunshine of our lives".
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Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 05:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Like Marvin Gaye's "What's Goin On" album, Stevie Wonder's "Songs in the Key of Life" is the album that defines his extraordinary musical genius. Stevie will always be "the sunshine of our lives"."

This is so true. Stevie Wonder is an original creative genius. The "Songs in the Key of Life" is a masterful recording. And I recall when I lived in the Philippines, on my off days, just before going out, I would play Marvin Gayes, "What's Goin On". I can't explain it but it was a routine ritual I'd go through. Put on the Marvin Gaye classic (God, I love that recording!), have two shots of Jack Daniels and then hit the streets. Yep. That's just the way it was.





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Chrishayden
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 12:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i just bought the songs in the key of life and i have to say that this could be the best double cd i ever i bought. i even give it a slight edge over tupac's all eyez on me. i would recommend it for anyone who likes (3rd generation) old school r&b.

(The sh*t is over 30 years old. It was hip in the day but this is just like somebody back in the 60's enthusing over Satchmo and his Hot Five--

I don't know why people are always saying Negroes are hip--they are the most conservative sticks in the mud I ever seen.
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Cynique
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 01:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess you never heard of "classic R&B, chrishayden. And the reason the music industry bestows this title of certain records is because they are timeless in their appeal, as is most good music. Some of the best jazz music around was recorded back in the 1940s but of course somebody like you who is still rasping James Brown hits apparently can't appreciate this.
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 01:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Boy! checkin out that Marvin Gaye album cover reminds me of how fine he was in his day.
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 04:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"The sh*t is over 30 years old. It was hip in the day but this is just like somebody back in the 60's enthusing over Satchmo and his Hot Five-- "

Chris, please don't smoke crack anymore. It's destroying your brain cells bro. Seriously, listen up; You cannot put a time line on serious creative music or art. It's not the same as pop music or hair styles. What is hip today is passe' tomorrow. The masterful works of Beethoven is timeless. No one (no one with a brain that is) looks at it and say, "Oh well, that music happened long time ago. It's irrelevant now. It's too old."

The collaborative works of Duke Ellington and Billy Strayhorn will live forever. The classic Miles Davis recording, "Kind of Blue", will continue to be recognized as a classic long after you are dead! Richard Wagner operas are reenacted over and over and over. And will continue to be so until the end of time.

The masterful operatic classic, "Madame Butterfly", by Giacomo Puccini , will always be regarded as a timeless work of art. The same goes for John Coltrane's, "A Love Supreme" and "Giant Steps". You're confusing top ten pop music that roller coasters from one week to the next, only to fade into obscurity and oblivion. We're talking about serious creative music that cannot be dated nor relegated to rank commercialism. Not the hip pop and bumble gum tunes you collect and listen to.

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Chrishayden
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 10:16 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My Uncle back then was telling me Motown stuff was shit and you know what--compared to what Coltrane, Miles,Sun Ra, Ornette Coleman and them was doing it was but tell that to all those teenagers slurping it up.

Marvin was a very pleasing singer. Who knows what he might have accomplished as a composer and arranger if he hadn't got hung up with the sex symbol--but that was paying the coke man big time.

If it wasn't the TOTAL bomb (which I don't think it was--it had four or five knockouts on it, he owed lots to what Sly Stone and others had done on some of the stuff--"What's Going On" and "Mercy Mercy Me" belong totally to him, since he fused in that gospel feeling really on these--but Sly and Aretha had been there before you gotta admit

You need to get you some new music. Really. That was not the be all and end all.

I'll put Biggie Smalls' album "Ready to Die" or Tupac's First album (or his greatest hits) up against it. Also Public Enemy (It takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back) up against it.
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 10:23 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was like that song by Donny Hathaway (a St. Louisan, by the way) "The Ghetto". Back when that song was out, every radio I listened to, every party I went into, every time you walked down the street you heard that song for what seemed like two years. Man I burnt out on it.

A couple years passed, somebody played it again.

"Damn! That was a bombass song. No wonder they were playing it everywhere."

I got so burnt out on "What's Going On?" and "Let's Get it On" and Stevie Wonder their genius just got buried under the hype.
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Cynique
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 02:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why do you set yourself up as the standard by which everybody else should model themself, chrishayden? If you don't like certain music, then too bad. Others like what they like and your opinion doesn't matter.
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 02:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


None of these peoples' genius has been buried under hype. Any dummy would know this except for one.
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Doberman23
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 09:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ya'll are being too hard on ol' chrishatin. he's like the two old dudes on the muppet show that sit in the balcony and say corny stuff ... just don't pay them to much attention.

chris a lot of those songs on that stevie wonder cd are new to me, so it's all good. and to be honest with you, all this so called new stuff is lacking. it's getting to the point where i am actually thinking that it's just one female singer and one male singer singing all the songs. i love rap, but i can't listen to that all the time, hince i am now finding other alternatives.
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 10:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Doberman23, I have now owned "Songs" in four formats: I owned the massive double album (+ 45, + book), I re-bought it on tape, again on CD, and now have it faithfully loaded on my iPod. It is simply one of the best cohesive works ever created by any musical artist.

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Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 01:17 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I got so burnt out on "What's Going On?" and "Let's Get it On" and Stevie Wonder their genius just got buried under the hype."

Hype? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That's funny. Only to those who sadly cannot differentiate between serious creative music and rank commercial mass marketed muzak. Yes, that would be their reality. Ignorance can be blinding as well as crippling.

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Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Marvin Gaye--the nigga was so slimy his daddy had to shoot him.

Why do you set yourself up as the standard by which everybody else should model themself, chrishayden

(That's not what I'm doing.

If I say 2 + 2 = 4, is that setting a standard

Or telling the TRUTH!
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Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 01:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But you don't say 2 + 2 = 4, chrishayden. Your warped brain calculates that 2 + 2 = 5, which is why all you ever come up with is a lot of BS.
And Marvin Gaye's personal life can certainly be separated from his music. Like many true artists, when his angst was expressesd in his music some of his finest work was the result.
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Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 01:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"chris a lot of those songs on that stevie wonder cd are new to me, so it's all good. and to be honest with you, all this so called new stuff is lacking."

Brilliant observation. No doubt.......

"it's getting to the point where i am actually thinking that it's just one female singer and one male singer singing all the songs."

Bro, it's interesting you said that because I have been saying it for years. The era of highly individualistically stylized and identifiable voices is over! Currently, the majority of vocalists sound like clones. It's really sad. Glad some one else has noticed it.


"i love rap, but i can't listen to that all the time, hince i am now finding other alternatives."

Good! I think it's great you're moving on. There is some very creative and complex music that you should consider exploring. Obviously, rap/hip-hop is not one of them.


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Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 02:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dobes is a cool guy! :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Doberman23, your post was fascinating. I simply took it for granted everyone was familiar with the genius Wonder exhibited in his albums from the early 70's.

I know I should know better, since I see the same thing happen in books everyday.

Try on Fulfillingness First Finale or </b> </b> Innervisions on for size. And if you are them on-line please remember AALBC.com (just click any amazon link).

Yvettep I have the 8-track of this album and the 8-track player too (smile).

I clearly recall discovering the 8-track in my father's collection and being riveted by the lyrics and the music.

Stevie is going on tour (it may have already started). I plan to see him somewhere. I've never seen Stevie W. perform live. It would be my small way of paying tribute...

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Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 07:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I have the 8-track of this album and the 8-track player too."

Wow! That's hard core! Does it still work?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 07:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy, you got me beat!
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Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 07:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Troy is sooooo old :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 09:11 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

NTFS, I will fire that old sucker up this weekend. If it does work I'll store that old contraption somewhere other than the basement and try to preserve the tapes. Hard to image they used to be in cars.

Mzuri, I am getting there and I glad too. It really make you appreciate technology.

I remember when my only source of music was an AM radio I earned selling candy. We did not have any stations that played Black music in a big way. Today my kids can watch any video or play any song anytime on a device smaller that my old AM radio.

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