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Sabiana
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 08:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

From the Comic Wanted

Sources
afrogeek.blogspot.com
racialicious.com


Angelina Jolie has been tapped to play The Fox in a movie version of Mark Millar's WANTED. Fox in the comics is a brown female play off of DC's Catwoman. She's sleek, she's smooth, she's a jewel thief and her ex-boyfriend is 'The Detective'. But with Angelina Jolie playing her, she'll no longer be a sistah.

Now I know rumors fly all over the place as to whether or not Angelina has Iroquois blood in her. And thus would make her a woman of color. But I don't think the 'one drop' rule even matters when she's almost always played white characters. Her recent role as Mariane Pearl not withstanding. I'm left wondering what have we done, or failed to do that Hollywood doesn't think twice about putting a white actress in a woman of color's role. Whatever Halle Berry did to the association of black women and comicbook movies can't have been bad enough that known and unknown black actresses never even get to see the casting door.


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Well people...at least we still have Storm. And of course, as natural, the white directors and Angie will go "I don't know what the problem is..I mean.., what more do you people want! We let Halle Berry play Cat Woman!" As if she was the only black actress to ever exist!
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 08:59 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

* Top not written by me
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 09:06 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I mean, what about Nia or Sanaa?

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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 09:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


I feel your pain but in order to make a change we need more Black studios, movie producers, casting directors and decision makers in HoWood. Otherwise the white people will keep serving up Angelina Jolie everytime we turn around (BTW I'm tired of looking at her, even in a white girl role - I think she's played out).



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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am absolutely sick of looking at Angelina Jolie and I am glad that people are finally catching up on that--

But let us face facts. If you had a Black studio, etc, and you were putting out a movie and all you cared about was the bottom line (it is, after all a comic book movie. So what nobody gets that role) would you get a black actress with no proven track record or a white one who has sold hundreds of millions in tickets

Because

White people are the majority in this country and in order to get a mega monster hit they gotta go see the movie. In fact, the demographic you want is young white males 14-25--they like comic book movies and they like their own women.

I wouldn't have a white woman play Betty Shabazz but I wouldn't spend more than 20 -30 million on it because they ain't gonna go see it.

It's the politics.

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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:06 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


You have 20-30 million dollars?





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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:06 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


or Money.
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri....

Oprah does.


But then imagine the crap she'd put out. The actors, it would be a rule of course, cannot cross Oprah without kissing her feet, her name must be mentioned somewhere in the script, in her name shall be in larger font during the credits. (lol)


It would be a nice idea though. What would we call it? Blackawood? I mean....India has Bollywood.
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It would be a nice idea though. What would we call it? Blackawood? I mean....India has Bollywood

(I have thought that the solution might lie in development of a Pan African movie public--the U.S., the Caribbean, South America, Africa, and Africans in Europe and etc.
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"White people are the majority in this country and in order to get a mega monster hit they gotta go see the movie. In fact, the demographic you want is young white males 14-25--they like comic book movies and they like their own women.

I wouldn't have a white woman play Betty Shabazz but I wouldn't spend more than 20 -30 million on it because they ain't gonna go see it.

It's the politics."


Well, that says it all. Let the whining and bawling cease. End of subject........

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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Let the whining and bawling cease"



Oh please.
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


LOL!



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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Speaking of which...

ABM,

I've been forced to put your beloved Angelina Jolie on my
personal web site if you can believe that.

She's in the 5th Photo:


http://www.kolaboof.com/gallery.htm





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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Angelina Jolie squealed like a pig
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 02:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I want to play 'The Fox', she is so cool.

They should have chosed me. :-(


LMAO.
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there are no black studios. the decision makers in hollywood will always be white/ jewish.

i say... baby steps.. tap into the gay mafia in hollywood. there are a few black sympathizers in that circle with lots of power.

blacks, especially, these black men will go ahead and spend money to see jolie. all around, we're f*cked on the issue of black access and opportunity in hollywood.
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well, the SOLE factor in the decision as to who gets a paticular "film role", should be TALENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

like it or not, angelina jolie is a VERY talented actor, who has a true "screen presence".

sure id like to se sanaa lathan cast as a "superhero type".

but until the time when black folks SERIOUSLY begin to finance their own films, and we choose who WE WANT to see in these lead roles, i have NO problen seeing actor like angelina jolie play roles of all types.

lets be HONEST-

angelina jolie is a VERY TALENTED actor, who has an enormous screen presence.

im sure that ANY role that angelina jolie is cast in, will be a great performance.

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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


LIFE IS GRAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Toubobie,

BET and Will Smith have shown us what
"black film studios" would be like,
so it wouldn't be any better.

Black WOMEN have got to make films,
and that's what I'm trying so hard to
get off the ground.

Things are coming. :-)

But slowly.




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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola: "Black WOMEN have got to make films..."


You mean like the BLACK WOMEN who are currently presidents of MTV and BET?
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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 12:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM,

Why did you come back fukking with me?

Where were you all this time and WHAT
is going on???

IS KOLA BOOF RUNNING MTV OR BET????

NO---------Sabiana is!!!!

Her and black men like Reggie Hudlin
and WHITE MEN who own Viacom.

There's also a black ass Aunt Jemima
running "Grey's Anatomy".

But then there's also the woman who
made "Daughters of the Dust", there's
the woman who wrote "Color Purple",
there's the Black Women behind "Beloved"
and if more black identified black women
will endeavor to MAKE FILMS---then we
will have black beauty.

No one else is going to do it for us.


I reiterate:

BET and Will Smith have shown us what
"black film studios" would be like,
so it wouldn't be any better.

Black WOMEN have got to make films,
and that's what I'm trying so hard to
get off the ground.

Please don't compare me to the bitches
at MTV and such--I just don't deserve it.









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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 12:41 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


And honestly, ABM, does the "token"
mixed race "black man" Production Head
at TIME WARNER or PEPSI COLA have any
real power?

I believe those black women at BET and
MTV are "puppets" who do exactly what
they're told to do.

I'm talking about Black Women Filmmakers
following in Spike Lee and Ousmane Sembene's
footsteps----not being part of the
establishment.

And....

I'm really mad at you for keep leaving me
hanging.

It's the second time you just VANISHED
and trailed off our conversation and I'm
getting a very strong and strange vibe
from it.

Something's wrong that you're not telling
me.

Now you're supposed to be the one person
I can trust here.










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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 01:01 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I wasn't comparing you to the *itches of MTV and BET. I was saying that having females in positions of power and influences doesn't necessarily result in the greater artistic enlightenments you allude to.

And chill on the Kola Paranoia. I've been busy. So the available internet times has (and will continue to be) hit/miss.

And nothing ELSE happening on my end, babe.
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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 01:08 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

:-)


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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 01:09 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)



The one single thing in life that I've
experienced THE MOST, ABM...over and
over...is people betraying me.

So I am paranoid.

Sorry.




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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 01:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

We ALL are betrayed some. Often by those we put most of our faith in.

For the more we invest in something, the greater the torment when they/it let us down.


I can't promise you you never feel as though I've betrayed you. But you can trust and believe that such has never been my desire or intent.
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Well if you ever give a white woman
credit for my beauty,

for my specialness

...if you ever obliterate me and render
me invisible...

...by writing me as a White Woman, as
you mentioned on the other thread.

That would be the ultimate betrayal.

And it would hurt me all the way to
the earth's core.

That core and my connection to it being
proof that I was here first.

And that I am a goddess worthy of my
own firnament, ABM.

No white woman...could have ever thought
me up
.

I am molded by your steady hand.

A long time ago.

So when you write...don't lie.

Don't imagine me white.






























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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 01:43 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Okay. Put here's the thing, though: What if my muse HONESTLY, EARNESTLY calls for a White Kola?

How do I reconcile THAT dilemma?


Pish. Posh.

Perhaps a would betray you, Kola. But it wouldn't be via a fictional rendering of you.

Because, remember...I am a man.
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So your fantasy is that I am white?

That is what would make me perfect...

Because you're a man?

Yeah, you're right ABM. I do hate you.

Fukk you.










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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 01:54 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I wouldn't make you White to make you perfect. If anything, I'm thinking the exact opposite.


Kola: "Fukk you."

You wish.
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KOLA: ever consulted a psychiatrist? If not, it mightn't be a bad idea. Explain to him/her that you have serious delusions of grandeur, multiple personalities and severe paranoia....
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"Yeah, you're right ABM. I do hate you.

Fukk you."


Well, I guess that's the end of this particular love affair........
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If it is the end of their affair, Abm has made a lucky escape. Abm sounds reasonably sane: Kola sounds anything but. Her pussy probably has teeth on it and razors lurking inside.
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Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 06:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ntfs,

~"Break up.
To make up.
That's ALLLLL we do.
First [Kola] loves me.
Then [Kola] hates me.
That's a game...for fools
."~

---The Stylistics
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Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 03:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri: You know we have a black studio..right..?
LiLi
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I meant more Black studios as in mainstream. Not some isolated operation that we have to scratch our heads and ponder upon.

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