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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6130
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 02:01 am: | 
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Stories of Survival
NO! explores rape within the African-American community and fights society’s instinct to focus on the racism outside while turning a deaf ear to gender violence within
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3227/stories_of_survival/ |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 4804
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 11:48 am: |
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It's the bad ole black men again. The only ones who rape their women.
At least their daughters and sisters can go about in peace
A racist joke.
Q--What is a Virgin?
A--A hillybilly girl who can run faster than all her brothers.
Sure rape is a problem. But it is not solveable on a mass basis. Attitudes, shmatitudes--it ain't no accident and it ain't nothing you can educate anybody out of because most rapists know they are dishonoring and violating somebody and that's why they do it.
If I was going to try to find a mass solution I would try to stop parents from raping their kids--the source of lots of it--and educate women about self protection--one reason why there is more rape is because women are by themselves a lot more often and frankly rapists are preditors looking for prey.
Of course that doesn't protect them against family, friends, boyfriends, husbands, etc.
If I was gonna hazard a guess, I would say the high levels of rape are due to the high levels of violence in this society, since rape is not about sex but the violence, but I won't hold my breath about getting the violence out.
Violence, paranoia and fear are some of our biggest manufactures and exports these days. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 9115
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 01:08 pm: |
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chrishayden's dismissal of the rape problem is typical of his flip-flopping. Forget about rape victims, he's too busy blinking back tears as he sympathizes with the gang bangin babies'daddies idling on the streets, wearing grills and low slung jeans, and callin women bitches and 'hos - poor misunderstood kids who the Cosby middle-class crowd looks down on. And speaking of Cosby, chrishayden doesn't have any problem deploring his alleged rape offenses. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6134
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 07:08 pm: |
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Chris I love you to death but how you gonna turn this to A BLACK MAN'S ISSUE his battle with The White Man and THE BLACK MAN'S PLIGHT?????? Huh???????
Don't make me shove a pole up your asshole bro. I love you like a brother so that wouldn't be nice.
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Sabiana
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Username: Sabiana
Post Number: 130
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 07:12 pm: |
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Chris, you missed the point of the article. DId you even read it?
It made a point not to persecute black men, rather to show a black woman CAN be raped, even if the "asked" for it. Its a fact that most rapes are intra-racial in this country. We need to understand that stereotypes of being "hypersexual creatures", is imposed on both Black Men AND Black Women. The stigma of rape seems be a double standard of sympathy and understanding in the black community, depending on the subject, depending on the race of the committer, the race of the accuser/victim. Your post rather came of as insensitive. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 9416
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 08:07 pm: |
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Stories of Survival: "The organization’s “Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women Survey” estimates that 18.8 percent of black women will survive a rape or attempted rape—making them only slightly more likely than the general population (17.6 percent) and white women (17.7 percent) to experience such a crime, but much less likely to be raped than Native Americans."
Notwithstanding the peculiarities of race, the above asserts that rape in our current society and culture is NOT a uniquely, especially Black female issue or experience.
The above suggests that Native American women are much MORE likely to be raped than any other American women. Of course, there aren't many of them around (anymore). So I guess they don't matter. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6138
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 10:35 pm: |
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"Wilson recalls a screening for a white audience that was disengaged from the topic. All of the reactions Wilson had learned to expect—tears, outrage, personal testimonies—didn’t happen. The audience members acknowledged the violence, but their comments and lack of emotion told her that they couldn’t relate to this type of violence.
Wilson told the audience, “I can watch a Lifetime movie with a cast full of white people and cry because I’m conditioned to relate to you. But you are not conditioned to relate to me. You, especially this group who thinks you’re so politically correct, you cannot watch a movie with people with brown skin and see yourself.”"
I wonder if the same is true for some Black men AND SOME BLACK WOMEN w/regard to rape, AIDS and its affects on Black women, violence towards Blk women, and the denigration of Blk women in rap/Blk movies etcetera. Because think about it. We've been taught to view the struggle along w/every aspect of the Blk experience through the plight of Blk men. So we’re conditioned to relate to BM (their issues). But are BM conditioned to relate to BW??? Hell. Can BW relate to BW, since all we know is the Black male experience. Hmmmm. Probably this is why some Blk men AND SOME BLK WOMEN are insensitive to BW issues. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 975
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 10:41 pm: |
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^^^^very true tonya and ive always thought the same thing myself. although things are changing and the black community is starting to relate more and more to issues thaty affect black women, tings are still pretty bad in that regard though. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 976
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 10:47 pm: |
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also if this issue was about black men, the issues that native american men face (that are similar to black men) would have never been mentioned as a way to distract the topic. you wouldnt have people coming in here saying "well this is not only a black mens issue, native american men go through the same thing"
not trying to come down on abm because i do like him but just noting an observation...whenever someone tries to focus on black women people are often very likely to try to bring the issues of non-black women into the topic and cloud the issue..not saying this is a conscious effort nor am i saying the experiences of non-black womena re unimportant but this type of thing happens alot. |
Sabiana
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Username: Sabiana
Post Number: 132
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 12:24 am: |
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Misty, why do you think that is? What Tonya mentioned above? |
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