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Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2263
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:16 am: | 
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Should North Carolina DA Mike Nifong be disbarred for unethical and criminal behavior? It is no longer a debatable question as whether he was a rouge district attorney. He lied to a judge and deliberately withheld DNA evidence that would have cleared the three students. Plus he issued (without a court order!) requests for home addresses and other personal information protected by federal privacy laws. A clear violation of federal law.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 8850
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:46 am: |
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I think he should be fined and not allowed to practice law for, say, 5 years, but I dont' think he should be disbarred. I think his intentions were orginally good but he got seduced by all of the publicity and press that he was getting. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 4973
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:09 pm: |
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I think he should be disbarred and sent to prison. That'll teach him to ruin innocent people's lives. As to him trying to impress the press, it's his job to be impartial and focus on the law, not on promoting his own political career. He should be strung up by the testicles.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 8852
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:10 pm: |
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Sheeze. That sounds like something chrishayden would say. LOL. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 4975
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:18 pm: |
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I know that was a bit extreme but I'm a Libra. And I tend to put myself into the shoes of the victim (in this case the accused rapists). People so often perceive criminal cases from the outside looking in, as opposed to - what if that (kidnapping, carjacking, home invasion burglary, molestation, murder) happened to me, or my spouse or children. Juries would impose much harsher sentences if more people thought this way.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 8853
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:26 pm: |
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Nobody's life was permanently ruined except the prosecutor's. Everybody else was vindicated, and the accused rapists emerged smelling like roses. So, Libra, how would you feel if you were the mother of the preacher whose wife shot him in the back and killed him because he liked kinky sex??? heh-heh. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 4976
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 01:14 pm: |
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LOL @ Leo. It's like this, I tell my son to treat his women right. And so if one of them shoots him in the back for mistreating her, I'm sure I'd feel the same way as any grieving mother. But I'd probably blame him for staying with a crazy •••••. Seriously.
And BTW, I haven't told you about this but I got word on Mother's day that my gangster stepson was shot in the chest and almost had his arm blown off. He survived and I felt awful about it because I've known him since he was just a baby and I love him dearly. But my family knows what type of lifestyle he leads and so you can only feel sorry but so much.
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 4688
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 01:18 pm: |
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Should North Carolina DA Mike Nifong be disbarred for unethical and criminal behavior? I
(Prosecutors get away with doing this everyday. We got a guy did this to a woman who sat in prison 25 years and he is a judge and nobody is talking about disciplining him (the victim was white and worked at a filling station--the oil company that owned the station allegedly told the prosecutors they wanted them to come down hard on this woman to send a message to stick up men--though the guy killed was not stuck up)
Nifong, for some reason, lost it and thought he could jack up some good white boys from Duke like he would have some gangbangers with records.
I still want to hear his side of the story. |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2264
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 01:20 pm: |
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"I think he should be disbarred and sent to prison. That'll teach him to ruin innocent people's lives. As to him trying to impress the press, it's his job to be impartial and focus on the law, not on promoting his own political career."
Agreed! I think Nifong is a criminal and had those young men been poor and could not have afforded the legal representation they did, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SITTING IN PRISON FOR YEARS AND NIFONG KNEW THEY WERE NOT GUILTY YET HE WOULD HAVE PROCEEDED TO PROSECUTE THEM ANYWAY! HOW MANY OTHER SO-CALLED CRIMINALS HAS HE FRAMED AND WITHELD EVIDENCE ON? He was perfectly happy, guilt free, content and politically motivated to destroy those young men's lives in order to advance his own career. I have absolutely no sympathy for rouge DA's and cops. I believe in punishing wanton criminals but not innocent people.
"He should be strung up by the testicles."
Errrrr.....well....that may be a little too harsh. Being disbarred and prison time works for me. It sends a clear message that the police and prosecuting attorneys, like everyday civilians - are not above the law!
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Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 4977
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 01:29 pm: |
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All rogue law enforcement officials should be strung by the testicles  |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 4689
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 03:25 pm: |
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HOW MANY OTHER SO-CALLED CRIMINALS HAS HE FRAMED AND WITHELD EVIDENCE ON? H
(Plenty. You see under our system of justice the Prosecutors feel their job is to prosecute. The defense attorney's job is to defend. If the defense attorney does not defend and an innocent man is sent away--tough.
This stuff happens every day and as long as people are hysterical about crime and belive people are guilty until proven innocent (not the other way around as they are instructed) it will not change.
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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 5805
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 04:50 pm: |
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NFTS, I thought you used to work for the CJ system. What Chris is saying is common sense even for laypeople. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 4979
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 05:48 pm: |
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Embattled Nifong Says He'll Resign
Posted: Today at 3:56 p.m.
The man who pursued rape, sexual assault and kidnapping charges against three former Duke lacrosse players who were later declared innocent by North Carolina's attorney general says he will resign. (Watch Nifong's announcement.)
"Throughout the years I have served as a prosecutor I have always tried to do the right thing," a tearful Mike Nifong said. "In this case, I was trying to do the right thing. Much of the criticism directed to me in the is case is justified. The allegations that I'm a liar, however, are not justified."
Nifong made the announcement during his testimony Friday at his State Bar ethics trial to the surprise of the families and defense attorneys of the cleared lacrosse players, as well as others.
Some of Nifong's staff said they were surprised to hear the announcement and heard it on television while they watched his testimony.
Nifong said regardless of the State Bar's decision, it would not be fair to the people in Durham County to be represented by "someone who is not held in high esteem."
The North Carolina State Bar has charged Nifong with withholding critical DNA test results from defense attorneys, lying to the court and Bar investigators and making misleading and inflammatory comments about the players. If the Bar's three-member Disciplinary Hearing Commission decides he violated ethics rules, he could be disbarred.
Nifong said he did not make all the mistakes alleged by the bar, "but they are my mistakes."
"It has become increasingly apparent, during the course of this week, in some ways that it might not have been before, that my presence as the district attorney in Durham is not furthering the cause of justice," Nifong said.
Nifong's soft-spoken statements were barely audible in the courtroom, where observers leaned forward in their chairs as they struggled to hear Nifong through his tears.
"To the extent that my actions have caused pain to the Finnertys, Seligmanns and Evans, I apologize. To the extent that my actions have brought disrespect and disrepute to the Bar, to my community, I apologize," he said.
But the families of since-cleared players Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans watched with little emotion, and Evans' attorney rejected Nifong's attempt to take responsibility.
"It was an obvious cynical ploy to save his law license, and his apology to these people is far too little and comes far too late," said defense lawyer Joseph Cheshire.
A graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and 1978 graduate of the UNC School of Law, Nifong began his law career in 1978 as a volunteer for the 14th Prosecutorial District in Durham and became an assistant district attorney in April 1979.
In April 2005, Gov. Mike Easley appointed Nifong to the district attorney post after naming then-District Attorney Jim Hardin to a judgeship.
Nifong ran for office in 2006 and won with 49 percent of the vote, narrowly defeating Durham lawyer and Democrat Lewis Cheek, who received 40 percent, and Republican Party Chairman Steve Monks, who got 11 percent as a write-in candidate.
In February, Easley publicly stated that Nifong was "probably the poorest appointment" he ever made. And in April, Cooper called Nifong's pursuit of the Duke lacrosse case "a tragic rush to accuse and a failure to verify serious allegations."
http://wral.com/news/local/story/1459913/
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Yukio
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Post Number: 2427
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 06:19 pm: |
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it will be interesting to see if he in fact lied. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2266
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 09:20 pm: |
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"NFTS, I thought you used to work for the CJ system. What Chris is saying is common sense even for laypeople."
True. Tonya, it is an irrefutable fact if you cannot afford blue chip legal defense, your chances for going to jail are very good. I have been very honest and open about this. I do not defend the imprisonment of innocent people -for personal gain or any other reason
Nifong is a cold bloodied opportunist who was more than willing to imprison three innocent men to advance his career. Prosecuting attorneys have the discretion to pursue cases when they believe an arrest merits prosecution. They do it all the time (e.g., when the police excessively beat and kill people unnecessarily, -they choose not to do so!). That is why I dismissed Attorney General Thurbert Baker weak argument for appealing Judge Thomas H. Wilson's order release of Genarlow Wilson in that ridiculous oral sex case in Georgia. This Negro knows it is a miscarriage of justice and common sense to keep this young man in jail for ten years for a BJ. He lied when he said; "I don't have the discretion to pick and chooses the cases I have to prosecute"(sic). PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS DO IT ALL THE TIME! Baker, like Nigong -is a lair!
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Renata
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Post Number: 2273
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 09:57 pm: |
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Attorney who does anything to win his own case and doesn't care if the other side is right?
Attorney who will only accept evidence that helps his own client, and ignores any other evidence as long as the opposition doesn't mention it?
Isn't that what all attorneys do, or am I missing something?
I've never been to court other than for a marriage license, never for anything that required a lawyer. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 4694
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 10:32 am: |
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This is the flaw in our legal system. I would rather that we had a system like they do in England or in the JAG corps of our military--where one sometimes prosecutes, sometimes defends. To me it makes the lawyers more prone to do justice.
This all out one side I want to win thing leads to miscarriages of justice. The attorneys on both sides just want to win and if the prosecutor sends somebody guilty up he feels great ("well, if he didn't do this he did something") and the defense attorney feels great if he gets somebody guilty off. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 10:37 am: |
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The North Carolina State Bar has charged Nifong with withholding critical DNA test results from defense attorneys, lying to the court and Bar investigators and making misleading and inflammatory comments about the players
(Prosecuting attorneys do this kind of stuff everyday. I want to hear from the guy that he thought he was framing innocent men.
What I think happened was this.
These Duke players have been running crazy for years and nobody has done anything about it. Nifong gets this case--it looks like a felony. He's steaming over these little beasts having a party with strippers. Drinking. And he's in the middle of an election fight.
And he just did what he would have done in a case involving some Negro gangbangers. I know of cases where he would have obtained convictions against poor black defendants with public defenders.
What made him think he could do this to white boys (who I think were guilty--there is a big difference between being innocent and being unable to prove their guilt) is what I would also like to know. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 4696
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 10:39 am: |
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Go back and read through the trials of Black Panthers--see if prosecutors did not make misleading statements, withhold evidence, and lie to the court.
Look at (yeah I'm gonna say it) the OJ case. Marcia Clark and Dumbo Darden knowingly used perjured testimony and what happened to them about it? |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2268
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 03:24 am: |
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"And he just did what he would have done in a case involving some Negro gangbangers. I know of cases where he would have obtained convictions against poor black defendants with public defenders."
True....true....I saw him blubbering and crying about not lying (bogus theatrics to elicit sympathy -didn't work with me). He never thought for one second how those three innocent guys felt about spending years in jail for something they did not do. As I said before, I have no sympathy for this self serving careerist ass hole. I hope they bring criminal charges against him.
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