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Libralind2
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Username: Libralind2
Post Number: 570
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 11:48 am: | 
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Subject: Fwd: Black Indian Press
To All Conscious Blacks,
This is it!!! If the Depart of Interior, the Bureau of Indian Affairs ,
the high chiefs of various so-called Civilized Tribes successful deny the decendants of Black Freedmen and Black Indians their 1865 & 1866 mandated rights and socioeconomic benefits, Black Americans can forget about ever receiving slavery reparations. If we lack the intestinal fortitude to fight for treaty rights, when treaties are founded in Constitutional law, why in the world would we hope for reparations based upon non-legal binding
emotionalism.
Please circulate the accompanying letter from Mrs. Molette and her Black Indian Press as far wide as you possibly can. This is the throw now, especially for all of the nieve civil righters who believe that all White Indians, Arabs, Hispanics and Asians are "people of color," allied with Blacks, and committed to socioeconomically elevating the decendants of the Blacks who their ancestors enslaved centuries ago.
Dr. Claud Anderson
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From: Achoctaw1866@aol.com
To: CAnder4272@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:22 PM
Subject: Black Indian Press
Black Indian Press
Monday, February 5, 2007
Enid, Oklahoma
As the descendants of the Pioneer Settlers of the State of Oklahoma begin to rejoice in preparation of its many planned Grand Centennial events, which essentially celebrate the end of Native American dominion over the last remaining frontier of what was formerly Indian Country, Ethnic Native Americans having African Ancestry and/or the Lineal Descendants of Indian Freedmen, seem to be one of the last remaining groups inhabiting the Former Indian Nations rendering forth any form of dissent at all over the state’s “celebratory” overtones.
Indian Freedmen continue to fight the vestiges of Jim Crow in Oklahoma, stemming from the U.S. Civil War fought in Oklahoma Indian Territory, through European colonization of Oklahoma, the place our ancestors were promised “new and adequate land” “in perpetual peace” with guaranteed “quiet possession of their country” and where Indian Freedmen “shall enjoy equal privileges with other members of said tribe,” clear to the current day.
Presently, Cherokee Freedmen are putting up a firm resistance to overt efforts led by the highest official of the Cherokee Nation to legally purge Native Americans having African Ancestry out of that Nation, thereby further alienating them from their guaranteed treaty mandated protections. At the same time, the Federal Guardians and Stewards of Indian Freedmen, the legal protectors of their contractually guaranteed Treaty Mandated Rights, seem to be sitting on their thumbs waiting to see if the Ethnic Cherokees can withstand the assault without the assistance of those entrusted with a Fiduciary duty, Federal and Treaty mandate to do so.
Meanwhile, the Harvest Institute Freedmen Federation, led by Dr. Claude Anderson, and Black Indians United Legal Defense and Education Fund based in Enid, Oklahoma announced the filing of a Class Action Complaint against the U.S. Department of the Interior, at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on February 1, 2007. The Complaint lodged against the U.S. Department of the Interior and the Secretary of the Interior back in December 2006, seeks legal redress to protect the Treaty Mandated Rights accorded Ethnic Native Americans having African Ancestry and Indian Freedmen, more popularly known as Black Indians in all Five Tribes, Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole Nations, and includes their Civil and Property Rights.
The Treaties of 1866 were domestic multi-party contractual agreements between the United States Government and the Sovereign Tribal Governments of the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole Nations, which included numerous provisions for their Ethnic Protectorates.
Additionally, the Oklahoma Centennial Commissioners have rejected the entry of the Lineal Descendants of Indian Freedmen in Oklahoma’s Grand Centennial Parade. The Parade entry was submitted through Southern Heights Heritage Center and Museum of Enid back in the winter of 2005, prior to any other Parade entry submissions. The Museum’s parade entry was slated to feature children dressed in Regalia. In response, the Museum is planning its own Grand Centennial Pow wow Reunion July 19th-22nd 2007, in Enid that will draw in a myriad of inter-tribal families from across the nation descended from Ethnic Indian Territory Citizens back along the Cherokee Strip. Garfield County area hotels are reporting an unusual increase in booking activity in anticipation of the event.
The Museum is determined to proudly host this special Grand Centennial Pow wow Reunion, as their 5th annual Pow Wow held along the Cherokee Strip, where historically the Cherokee Freedmen had a significant legal interest in the extent of 800,000 acres of Cherokee Neutral Lands that were illegitimately settled and formed the counties of southeastern Kansas and Northwestern Oklahoma. Ultimately, In 1890 [26 Stat., 636], the Chiefs of the Cherokee Freedmen, Shawnee and Delaware Nations filed in the U.S. Court of Claims for the right to sue for their share of the funds gained from the sale of the Cherokee Outlet to the United States Government.
The Southern Heights Heritage Center and Museum’s Grand Centennial Pow wow Reunion will feature Speakers from across the country to address the State of the Indian Freedmen Nations, and highlight Musical Performances, a
Banquet Dinner, Talent Show and more.
Angela Molette-Representative-Black Indians United Legal Defense and Education Fund Black Indian Press
Monday, February 5, 2007
Enid, Oklahoma
As the descendants of the Pioneer Settlers of the State of Oklahoma begin to rejoice in preparation of its many planned Grand Centennial events, which essentially celebrate the end of Native American dominion over the last remaining frontier of what was formerly Indian Country, Ethnic Native Americans having African Ancestry and/or the Lineal Descendants of Indian Freedmen, seem to be one of the last remaining groups inhabiting the Former Indian Nations rendering forth any form of dissent at all over the state’s “celebratory” overtones.
Indian Freedmen continue to fight the vestiges of Jim Crow in Oklahoma, stemming from the U.S. Civil War fought in Oklahoma Indian Territory, through European colonization of Oklahoma, the place our ancestors were promised “new and adequate land” “in perpetual peace” with guaranteed “quiet possession of their country” and where Indian Freedmen “shall enjoy equal privileges with other members of said tribe,” clear to the current day.
Presently, Cherokee Freedmen are putting up a firm resistance to overt efforts led by the highest official of the Cherokee Nation to legally purge Native Americans having African Ancestry out of that Nation, thereby further alienating them from their guaranteed treaty mandated protections. At the same time, the Federal Guardians and Stewards of Indian Freedmen, the legal protectors of their contractually guaranteed Treaty Mandated Rights, seem to be sitting on their thumbs waiting to see if the Ethnic Cherokees can withstand the assault without the assistance of those entrusted with a Fiduciary duty, Federal and Treaty mandate to do so.
Meanwhile, the Harvest Institute Freedmen Federation, led by Dr. Claude Anderson, and Black Indians United Legal Defense and Education Fund based in Enid, Oklahoma announced the filing of a Class Action Complaint against the U.S. Department of the Interior, at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on February 1, 2007. The Complaint lodged against the U.S. Department of the Interior and the Secretary of the Interior back in December 2006, seeks legal redress to protect the Treaty Mandated Rights accorded Ethnic Native Americans having African Ancestry and Indian Freedmen, more popularly known as Black Indians in all Five Tribes, Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole Nations, and includes their Civil and Property Rights.
The Treaties of 1866 were domestic multi-party contractual agreements between the United States Government and the Sovereign Tribal Governments of the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole Nations, which included numerous provisions for their Ethnic Protectorates.
Additionally, the Oklahoma Centennial Commissioners have rejected the entry of the Lineal Descendants of Indian Freedmen in Oklahoma’s Grand Centennial Parade. The Parade entry was submitted through Southern Heights Heritage Center and Museum of Enid back in the winter of 2005, prior to any other Parade entry submissions. The Museum’s parade entry was slated to feature children dressed in Regalia. In response, the Museum is planning its own Grand Centennial Pow wow Reunion July 19th-22nd 2007, in Enid that will draw in a myriad of inter-tribal families from across the nation descended from Ethnic Indian Territory Citizens back along the Cherokee Strip. Garfield County area hotels are reporting an unusual increase in booking activity in anticipation of the event.
The Museum is determined to proudly host this special Grand Centennial Pow wow Reunion, as their 5th annual Pow Wow held along the Cherokee Strip, where historically the Cherokee Freedmen had a significant legal interest in the extent of 800,000 acres of Cherokee Neutral Lands that were illegitimately settled and formed the counties of southeastern Kansas and Northwestern Oklahoma. Ultimately, In 1890 [26 Stat., 636], the Chiefs of the Cherokee Freedmen, Shawnee and Delaware Nations filed in the U.S. Court of Claims for the right to sue for their share of the funds gained from the sale of the Cherokee Outlet to the United States Government.
The Southern Heights Heritage Center and Museum’s Grand Centennial Pow wow Reunion will feature Speakers from across the country to address the State of the Indian Freedmen Nations, and highlight Musical Performances, a
Banquet Dinner, Talent Show and more.
Angela Molette-Representative-Black Indians United Legal Defense and Education Fund |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1228
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:21 pm: |
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GOOD IF I HEAR ONE MORE NEGROSIOD SIT UP HERE AND CLAIM THAT THEY GOT INDIAN BLOOD I AM GOING TO SCREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Schakspir
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Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 867
Registered: 12-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:42 pm: |
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COINTELPRO is not dead.
Please, STOP THE DIVIDE-AND-CONQUER BULLSHIT, YOU FUCKING CIA AGENTS. WE ARE ON TO YOU. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1753
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 01:48 pm: |
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"GOOD IF I HEAR ONE MORE NEGROSIOD SIT UP HERE AND CLAIM THAT THEY GOT INDIAN BLOOD I AM GOING TO SCREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Agreed...........
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Libralind2
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Post Number: 573
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 01:49 pm: |
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QQ at Schakspir..shaking head.
LiLi |
Latina_wi
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 10:59 pm: |
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You know what's funny....the Cherokee weren't even the biggest native american group in the USA but the amount of white european americans and african americans who say 'I am mixed with cherokee' you'd think it was lol!
Nice to see black people being 'exclusive' with their membership. Seem to let everyone in and get none of the love back. That ain't the one star. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1772
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 01:46 pm: |
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"You know what's funny....the Cherokee weren't even the biggest native american group in the USA but the amount of white european americans and african americans who say 'I am mixed with cherokee' you'd think it was lol!"
Interesting you said that. I don't think I've ever met a Negro that was not bragging or lamenting about the so-called Indian in their family (which I never believe anyway). Sometimes it seems as if I am the only black person in America that does not have Indian in their genealogy. It never ceases to amaze me why they say it and what is their point.
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Schakspir
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Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 868
Registered: 12-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 03:14 pm: |
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Libralind: QQ at Schakspir..shaking head.
LiLi
Schakspir: Shaking head at LiLi for falling for everything he reads on this board, and not reading through the lines! |
Libralind2
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Username: Libralind2
Post Number: 585
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 10:32 pm: |
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Im a woman. I aint falling for shit. I AM part Indian..now leb me alone
LiLi |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 769
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 02:06 am: |
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Serenasailor --
"GOOD IF I HEAR ONE MORE NEGROSIOD SIT UP HERE AND CLAIM THAT THEY GOT INDIAN BLOOD I AM GOING TO SCREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Good Googly Moogly! Thank God mine's not that far back. Yuk Yuk.
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Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 738
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 06:30 pm: |
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while its true that many "black people" try to claim "native american blood" in order to attempt to be different or "remove" themselves from the black population, its also true that many black people DO have native american ties or blood.
alonzo mourning the NBA player with the miami heat is a black man/native american.
many people who are just seen as "black" are actually native americans or mostly native american.
many people who ive on native american reservations, look like black people.
there is an indian reservation on long island (here in new york), i went to a festivel there, and MANY of the members of the tribe looked like black people.
it might upset some people, when they hear "black people" claiming "native american blood", but its true that many of our people DO have native american blood.
my great-great grandmother was a full blood PAWNEE indian from the oklahoma territory.
im in no way attempting to say im not "black", but its just a FACT that many "black americans" (or people who are considered "black americans"), have native american blood, or are actually native americans.
the history of america dictates that this is a reality. |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 408
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 07:22 pm: |
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My great great grandmother. (maternal) |
Latina_wi
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Username: Latina_wi
Post Number: 90
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 07:28 pm: |
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^^^She kind of reminds me of my Nana. She is half Amerindian Guyanese (her father was born and bred in the Amazon)
In the Caribbean, especially Jamaica, the black maroon men had relationships and procreated with the Carib women to strength their armies and support. |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 409
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 07:54 pm: |
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Latina_wi :that photo has always been "haunting" to me. LoL !
My family(maternal and paternal) has done a excellent job at preserving family photos. Geneaology is one of my favorite subjects. |
Latina_wi
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Username: Latina_wi
Post Number: 93
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 08:08 pm: |
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I only have one picture of my grandmother's dad. The thing with amerindians is that their eyes have a epicanthal fold which is what he has.
But still, I have heard a lot about native americans who try to play down the fact that they did once mix with african-americans.
Where my dad is from, and the neighbouring countries, we have names for these mixes and the people are very clued up about it and recognise it.
It makes me sad when I hear about the rejection of black people or their blood. Especially when black/mix people wax lyrical about their non-blackness (not in a good or bad way, just in the sense that they do the 'normal' thing and often realise their diversity). |
Nels
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Post Number: 772
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Lil_ze --
"in order to attempt to be different or "remove" themselves from the black population, its also true that many black people DO have native american ties or blood"
That's because outside of the ODR, many blacks are not black. |
Schakspir
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Post Number: 871
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 11:03 pm: |
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My great-great grandfather was a Mattaponi(Powatan) Native American, which is ironic because Powatans, historically, have been anti-black. They disliked us as far back as slavery times, and some probably had blacks as slaves. His wife, my great-great grandmother, was of pure West African descent, possibly Mandingo. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1232
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 01:09 pm: |
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STOP NEGROES PLEASE!! YO BLACK ASS CAME FROM AFRICA!!! I'M NOT THE BLACKEST OF BLACK MEN(LITERALLY) BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO CLAIM SOMETHING ELSE. SHUT-UP!!!!! |
Libralind2
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Post Number: 612
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 05:10 pm: |
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We cant have come from Africa and had relationships with Indians as well...??
LiLi |
Latina_wi
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Username: Latina_wi
Post Number: 96
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The point is; many of us did come from africa and have relationships with Indians. SS; just because you didn't doesn't mean the same for everyone else.
Peace |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 413
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 12:02 pm: |
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Serenasailor:"STOP NEGROES PLEASE!! YO BLACK ASS CAME FROM AFRICA!!! I'M NOT THE BLACKEST OF BLACK MEN(LITERALLY) BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO CLAIM SOMETHING ELSE. SHUT-UP!!!!!"
You're funny ! Love it ! |
Misty
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Post Number: 695
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 05:16 pm: |
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sounds the people here who say blacks are lieing about their native american heritage need to visit my myspace group to learn more about black indians and the history between blacks and indians...
here's my group...feel free to join if you like.
http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupid=10426 8427&Mytoken=05414CD8-BCD9-4289-AF508D74D318934470297766
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