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Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 242
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 10:53 am: | 
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The hanging of Saddam, makes me think about the death penalty. It's hard to have any sympathy for a dictator like SH, but as a general priniciple does the state have the right to kill in the name of justice/vengence? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3227
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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This is the 21st Century. Might makes right. If the state has the might to carry it out and keep order afterward it has the right. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2639
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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Isn't there something in the Holy Bible about an eye for an eye? And thou shalt not kill?
If someone broke into the sanctity of your home and raped, tortured and killed you while you were sleeping in your bed, raped and murdered one of your children, or robbed and slit the throat of your grocer, what sort of justice would you want for them?
I have no sympathy for these vicious heartless criminals who prey upon innocent victims. They don't deserve another cup of water or another ray of sunshine.
They deserve the same miserable fate that they inflicted upon my neighbor, my family member or myself.
My only regret is that our method of execution is too good for these heathens. They should be thrown to the lions, thrown in a fire or a pit of rattlesnakes, they should have their limbs torn off.
Merry Christmas 
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3231
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:36 am: |
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Another love letter from Texas-- |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2641
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:46 am: |
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What are you saying Chris? That if someone broke into your home, raped and murdered you - you'd want him harbored in a comfy prison cell and given pop tarts for the rest of his life? You'd probably just let him go free, huh? Let him serve a couple of years and get out on parole so that he could kill another innocent person. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7246
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:50 am: |
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My only problems with capital punishment are the often haphazard and racially-biased manner in which it is administered. Otherwise, hang-Hussein-hang.
And I especially dig how EXPEDITIOUSLY the Iraqis laid the fatal smatchdown on Saddam. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3232
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:51 am: |
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Folks down where this gal is from they blew the President's brains out at high noon while he was riding down the street with his wife beside him
Pinned it on a patsy (anybody who knows anything about guns knows you couldn't do a shot like that (at a MOVING target? With a bolt action mail order rifle?)and then blew him away while the nation watched live on national tv in the basement of the police station in the biggest city in the state.
Oh, did I add that they regularly drag black guys behind pickup trucks because they were stupid enough to ask for a ride until their pieces are scattered all over the road--
And that our Fearless Leader was there and in four years he executed more people than anybody in history--
And I say unto ye
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 3234
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:58 am: |
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You is a Nachul Born killa, honey!
Crawl on up next to me and feel my .44 mag! Ain't it nice, long and hard? Haw! Haw!
Then have some steak--raw and bloody!
Ow! Hit me! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 6330
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:08 pm: |
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This is what Jesse Jackson had to say about Sadaam's execution and they are words to ponder.
"It will not increase our moral authority in the world...Saddam's heinous crimes against humanity can never be diminshed, but he was our ally while he was doing it....Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth will make us blind and disfigured...Saddam as a war trophy only deepens the catastrophe to which we are indelibly linked." |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 509
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:09 pm: |
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that probably wasnt even saddam....probably another one of his clones. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 510
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:12 pm: |
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"Isn't there something in the Holy Bible about an eye for an eye? And thou shalt not kill?"
right...and that verse right there is why im agaisnt capital punishment because it says thou shall not kill....the only justifiable reason to kill is in self defense.....so eventhough i have absoluely NO sympathy for sadaaam....it does go agaisnt my principles. The eye for an eye part is in the old testament...the new testament teaches agaisnt revenge. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7249
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:15 pm: |
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Misty,
Funny how we still include the Old Testment within Christian teachings but attempt to casually set aside The Law's less than touchy-feely parts. |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 243
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:16 pm: |
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The Iraqis may have carried out the execution, but this has American fingerprints all over it.
Obviously, the killing of Saddam was GWB's revenge for SH threat against Bush I. That's what this whole Iraq war has been about.
Whatever happened to Osama Bin Laden? Will we capture and hang him too? |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 511
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:21 pm: |
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Abm, what do you mean when you say the laws less touchy feely parts? |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2644
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:22 pm: |
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Chris - What does all of that stuff about the Kennedy assassination have to do with me?
I'm gonna ask you one more time so pay attention!
What would you want done to your rapist and murderer, when the authorities find your fat butt chopped up into fifty pieces and stuffed inside your freezer? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7251
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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Misty,
I talking about where the Old Testment appears to advocate eye-4-an-eye, polygamy, gay-bashing, slavery, human sacrifice, etc. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 512
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
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ok....gotcha |
Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 244
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:27 pm: |
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LOL @ gay-bashing in the Bible. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7254
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:32 pm: |
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Robynmarie,
Isn't that basically what GOD did (in Genesis) to the f*gs in Sodom & Gomorrah? |
Enchanted
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Post Number: 350
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:42 pm: |
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Good point Abm!
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Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 245
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:51 pm: |
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It's funny to apply such a modern expression to an ancient text. I would not presume to accuse God of any wrongdoing. I take that "vengance is mine, says the Lord," stuff seriously. LOL. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1366
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:53 pm: |
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"I talking about where the Old Testment appears to advocate eye-4-an-eye, polygamy, gay-bashing, slavery, human sacrifice, etc."
I don't know how detailed it (the bible) advocates it but I do know those who actively indulge and encourage it, all use the bible as a source reference to justify their sordid behavior. That's for damn sure!
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Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 515
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:56 pm: |
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but really we are suppose to be following the new testament...not the old testament |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 6336
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 02:26 pm: |
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Some of us even follow the dictates of our higher selves, preferring not to let a book of man-corrupted platitudes impede our innate sense of right and wrong. |
Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 623
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lo i come unto you in the VOLUME of the BOOK.
the words of christ.
the bible is ONE book. the old and new testaments are should be followed (if you believe in it). |
Lola_ogunnaike
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Username: Lola_ogunnaike
Post Number: 212
Registered: 10-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 06:00 pm: |
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"What are you saying Chris? That if someone broke into your home, raped and murdered you - you'd want him harbored in a comfy prison cell and given pop tarts for the rest of his life? You'd probably just let him go free, huh?"
If he's been raped and murdered how can he make any decisions? Surely he's dead. Fuckwit. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7281
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 09:03 am: |
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RobinM,
RobinM: "{I would not presume to accuse God of any wrongdoing. I take that "vengance is mine, says the Lord," stuff seriously. LOL.}"
Hahahahaha!!!
I understand. But don't worry for me. THE BIG BRUH IN THE SKY and I have an understanding.
Misty,
Misty: but really we are suppose to be following the new testament...not the old testament
Well then why do foks continue to invoke the tenets of the Old Testament which includes, btw...Exodus's THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?
Ntfs,
I admit I may be playing fast/loose with The Good Book. But then, really, aren't EVERYBODY? |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 524
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:27 am: |
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Abm, When Jesus Christ came down to earth he reaffirmed the 10 commandments....that's why we still follow them. jesus coming to eath is the begining of the New testament.. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7288
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:30 am: |
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Misty,
Well...AGAIN...if most the contents of the Old Testament is no longer valid WHY don't Christians discard it? |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 525
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:33 am: |
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because again, Jesus raffirmed the ten commandments in the NEW testament so they are still valid. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 526
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:34 am: |
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Baptist Christians may look to the old testament for guidance in some ways but they dont follow it...they follow the new testament...the old testament is jsut put there for examples for us to learn from. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 527
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:37 am: |
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also Abm....many things in the old testament were reaffirmed in the new testament by Jesus Christ but there were certain things that weren't like the "eye for an eye" part |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7289
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:41 am: |
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Did Jesus reaffirm the ENTIRE Old Testment? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7290
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:43 am: |
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Misty,
So then Jesus would not have wanted Saddam hung? |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 528
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:45 am: |
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No....thats what i just said Abm...lol
the eye for an eye part and the sacraficing of living creatures was suppose to be done away with with the coming of Jesus Christ in the new testament. The act of judging other people was also suppose to be done away with in the New testament when Jesus Christ came. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 530
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:48 am: |
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"Misty,
So then Jesus would not have wanted Saddam hung?"
No, because it says that vengance is mine...it also says judge not least ye shall be judged.
So eventhough I would ahve wanted saddam hung....i dont think capital punishment is right in the eyes of God and Jesus christ. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7292
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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Misty,
If we can't judge what another man does, how can we stop and prevent guys like Saddam from reaping hell upon everyone else? |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 535
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 03:24 pm: |
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well, thats a good question ive thought about long and hard before i say just lock them up but dont kill them but thats still kind of judging. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1398
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 08:58 am: |
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"If we can't judge what another man does, how can we stop and prevent guys like Saddam from reaping hell upon everyone else?"
Good point. I've never be able to get on board with this idea of making the criminal perpetrator seem like a victim when it comes to time to mete out the punishment. The victim(s) and their families always get lost in the shuffle and forgotten. Don't like being in incarcerated? Don't like the death penalty? Then don't do the crime it ya can't stand the time! It's as simple as that.
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