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Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 483
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 02:53 am: | 
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anyone have any opinions about the aboriginals of australia? they are "dark" in skin color, but i don't find that they resemble our people (black americans, west indians, black brazilians, black columbians, blacks in north, south, and central america).
i have spoken to some men that i know that have theories regarding the "black" australians (in short that they are a far remove remnant of our people, although it goes way deeper than that)
ive never seen an "aboriginal" in person in my life (i know white australians that have never met one). anyone have any opinions about these people? who are they racially related to? who do they descend from (if they descend from any group). i find the history of the "black" australians to be a very interesting one.
everlyn sampi-star of "rabbit-proof fence" |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 485
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everlyn sampi (left) with grandfather and sister. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 5251
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 10:34 am: |
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Australian aboriginals are probably like the Maori of New Zealand and the Ainu of Japan which means they are more Asian in origin than black. Like the Eskimos they were nomadic people who migrated from Asia to other places back when there were land shelves for them to walk across before what are now the continents broke apart due to cataclysmic earth quakes. A while ago there was an aboriginal tennis player on the circuit who won a few grand slam tournaments. Her name was Yvonne Googalong (sp) and she retired after a few years, saying she was tired of being controlled by her white managers who tried to run her life and direct her career. She was light amber colored with beautiful curly hair. These people resemble Samoans and other south pacific islanders. Australia used to have a policy of not allowing negroid blacks to become citizens. Wonder if that's still true? A lot of nerve for a country that was settled by a motely crew of convicts and vagrants sent there by the British crown to colonize this land. |
Ceelove
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:11 am: |
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Is this cynique 1 or is this cynique 2? |
Cynique
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Post Number: 5254
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:16 am: |
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It's the real Cynique, ceehate. All you have to do is look to your left and see how many posts I have made. (5,251) |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 1610
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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I agree that they seem to be of Asian origin as well. I found this pix in a wiki - it is a Negrito aboriginal woman of Southeast Asia.
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Moonsigns
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Post Number: 1484
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 01:04 pm: |
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Cynique is right. |
Ceelove
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Cynique I love you baby. |
Totusdulcidine
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Post Number: 20
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 06:11 pm: |
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Australian Aboriginal people today:
 
Australian Aboriginal people early twentieth century:
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Renata
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They're a completely different race. They all have blond hair until they hit puberty. That's not a trait Africans and their direct descendants have. From where they ultimately originated is a mystery to me.
Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans, and Dravidians are of a similar color to aborigines....perhaps they originated from South Asia? |
Cynique
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Post Number: 5273
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:24 pm: |
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These Australian aborigines do seem to be an anomoly who can't be categorized. I was guessing that they were like the Maori since New Zealand and Australia are close together but from the pictures posted these people look both Asian and African and with blond hair,yet. Maybe they're the missing link. Interesting. |
Igbogirl
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Post Number: 226
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They are beautiful. |
Renata
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Well....one weird thing about Australia. It's so removed from the rest of the continents that life forms there seemed to evolve independently of the rest of the world, hence their having animals/plants there not found anywhere else in the world.
Here's what I'm thinking: when the tectonic plates were together the people were somewhat similar but contained a wide enough gene range to have some variety, varieties that would eventually group off and form the races. When they started to drift, some were on the plate that would eventually include Australia and not intermixing with those with enough people with any one strong gene in particular, they kind of held on to them all (Dark skin AND blond hair?). They may be the only original man (or missing link, as Cynique said) left. |
Renata
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Post Number: 1361
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:21 am: |
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Heck, now I can't get that darn song out of my head by that Australian band from long ago....
"And if the blue sky mining company won't come to my rescue...
If the sugar refining company won't save me,
who's gonna save me? Whos's gonna save me? Who's gonna saaaaaave me? But if I work all day in the Blue Sky Mine....." |
Abdi85
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Post Number: 75
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 08:35 pm: |
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Reneta, the tectonic plates were pretty much in the positions we know today long before humans or even mammals dominated the planet. Concerning Australian Aboriginal people, the dominant theory today is that they are the decesdents of the first wave of humans who left Africa 60,000 yrs ago, since archeological remains of Homo Sapiens Sapiens found in Australia are about 50,000yrs old second only to Africa. The theory goes that first anatomically modern humans to leave Africa followed a costal path through Asia and somehow ended up in Australia, there is genetic evidence also to back it up this theory when looking at the Y chromosome markers of South Indian Dravidians and the San people of South Africa. Geneticts compare the number of mutations on the Y-chromosome (the more mutated markers the younger the group of people) the Australian Aboriginals fall somewhere in between the San Bushman and Dravidian South Indians, Dravidians being the youngest group in those three.
So in essence thier really long lost black people in way. |
Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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Abdi, your explanation seems just as likely plausible. Mine was a guess, after all. But, still, being so removed from intermixing with other groups, I think they may be closer to the original first human than others may be. What strikes me most is their having dark skin AND blond hair. Maybe they have all of the original genes....then again, maybe it's just another variation combination. |
Renata
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Also, I had no idea that all of the plates drifted BEFORE humans were on the earth. I'd always thought it kind of happened all simultaneously. |
Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 12:31 pm: |
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I just did a short online research and read in a couple of places that children from the Solomon Islands/New Guinea usually have tightly curled (but not quite afro) blond hair as well before puberty. And Fijians have nappy hair.
Here's one page that I found with a lot of pictures:
http://www.backintyme.com/odr/about1096.html
Be careful if you have dial-up service. This page has a lot of pictures. |
Tropical_storm
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 27, 2006 - 07:07 am: |
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Genetic studies have pretty much confirmed that Abdi85 is absolutely correct.
However I find this thread a bit curious because from reading other threads it appears that the thread starter is adamant that Blacks and Africans are distinct and unrelated groups (though I'm not sure how he/she defines "blacks.")
So to answer the original poster, if "your people" have no African connection then it is impossible for the Aboriginals you ask about to be "far removed remnants" of your people.
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Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 02:01 am: |
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tropical_storm, i said that SOME of the people i know have theories that the australian "blacks" are a "far removed remenant" of our people.
i have not come to a conclusion about these theories as of yet.
but i do understand that "our" people are a distinct and unrelated people to the "dark" races in the land of africa.
but i don't see how my thoughts about this have anything to do with the "black australians" being related to "black americans"?
please explain your point a bit more clearly, so i can understand the point you are making. |
Libralind2
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 01:24 pm: |
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Well..let me state that white folks think they Black I will post why here in a second
LiLi |
Libralind2
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Post Number: 416
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Australian protesters on Wednesday burned the national flag in a show of contempt over a controversial decision not to prosecute a police officer blamed for the death of an Aboriginal prisoner.
Cameron Doomadgee died after being arrested in November 2004, and a coroner ruled in September that blows inflicted on him by Sergeant Chris Hurley caused his fatal injuries. His death sparked fierce riots across the tiny Palm Island community.
But Northern Queensland Director of Public Prosecutions Leanne Clare last week said no charges would be brought against Hurley because the medical evidence did not support the claim.
The prosecutor said the death of 36-year-old Doomadgee was not due to punches or kicks, but instead to a fall during a scuffle with Hurley.
Doomadgee's family refused to meet with Beattie
As part of a day of protests in a number of Australian cities and towns, at least 1 000 marchers in Brisbane Wednesday demanded Queensland state Premier Peter Beattie and Police Minister Judy Spence be sacked.
They also presented a petition to Queensland's parliament demanding an independent review into the decision not to prosecute Hurley.
In Townsville, northern Queensland, about 500 people took to the streets protesting Clare's decision and Beattie's refusal to intervene.
Some carried a black coffin, while others bore placards, one saying: "It's not the justice system, it's the people in charge."
After meeting Aboriginal leaders and attending a protest rally on Palm Island, Beattie agreed to ask Clare to consider seeking an independent review of her decision, Palm Island Council chief executive Barry Moyle said.
However, Beattie stressed he could not order her to do so as she was an independent officer, Moyle said.
Doomadgee's family refused to meet with Beattie, and heckled him during the rally.
"Peter Beattie has made his position very clear and the family takes the view that meeting in these circumstances would be a waste of time," Frederic Cassis, the family's lawyer, said.
Smaller rallies were also held in Melbourne, Sydney and Cairns. An autopsy revealed Doomadgee had four broken ribs, a ruptured spleen and his liver had been "cleaved in two" before he died in an injury consistent with a powerful blow, Coroner Christine Clements found three months ago. - Sapa-AFP
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Misty
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Post Number: 731
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 05:56 am: |
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are yall serious...you can seriously say the people in those pictures look more asian than black? sounds like someones been brainwashed by white biologists |
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