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Shane
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 04:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In your book "Diary" Kola Boof, you advance the supposed tradition that without nappy hair the black man is no longer black or African. You advance this idea all throughout the book as some ancient African principle, which I don't believe it is.

This is no different than the brown paper bag rule.

You're not Mother Africa, you're an African racist is what you are.

You are saying that because my hair is not "the crown" then I am no longer in the black family and basically inferior to socalled "authentic blacks" and am kicked out.

My teacher says that you are doing this to create a black standard for darker blacks that will exclude the offspring of interracial couples and lighter skinned people of African descent.

I am here to tell you that your plot won't work.



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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 04:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am telling other African Americans not to support this woman or her colorist book. She is a bitter ugly black woman writing from desperate jealousy. Don't waste your money.



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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 05:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shane that does not sound like a black mans name. However, Kola Boof is right. Without African features you are not black. I find it funny how anybody can be black even if they do not have African features. However, a person with brown skin and kinky hair could never claim "white". Especially, not in this country!

Now I don't agree with Kola Boof that only dark-skinned black are authentic. However, I do agree that light-skinned blacks should not be the ones to represent "blackness". And the "double standard" that you are talking about was not created by dark-skinned blacks and ppl that looked liked Kola Boof. It was created by white and "white looking black ppl"(Mullattoes). This standard said that blacks only if they were light-skinned were acceptable. Therefore, dark-skinned blacks were "shut out".

Alot of black ppl do not accept Bi-Racial ppl because why should they be considered black? Alot of them don't want anything to do with black ppl anyway. Many of them will only claim blackness when it is convenient. For instant actor Terrance Howard. Who calls himself "mixed race" and claims to hate black ppl so he only dates white women. Mariah Carey who denied being black in a 1991 interview with Barbara Walters.

Kola was saying that African features is what defines us as a ppl. If you do not have those features you should not represent blackness. Colorstruck black ppl will always want to claim the Bi-racial ppl, because they think it will make us acceptable in white ppl's eyes. But those black ppl who proud of there blackness and know there culture will know authentic blackness when they see it.
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 06:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Name one blond, straight haired (NATURAL), blue eyed person with NAPPY hair, and I'll consider your position. And what makes her desperately jealous, her being black or her having nappy hair. You try to sound (correct me if I'm wrong) as if she's jealous BECAUSE she's black......but whatever.

Anyways, as I was saying, NAPPY hair is a trait that ONLY Blacks/Africans have. Black AMERICANS try to make it seem that straight hair can also come from 100% black people, but those "blacks" who do have straight hair are heavily mixed, usually MORE non-black than black. Nappy hair (natural) IS ONLY POSSIBLE for black people.

I'll believe your rant, when I find non-black people in Germany, Norway, Sweden, or Ireland with AFROS.
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 07:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata when did you get back? How did things go with your nephew?
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Renata
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 07:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I got back a few days ago. Things didn't go so well. I give his parents advice on how to better discipline him, and they want ME to do it when I'm there (which isn't long), and as soon as I walk out the door, he's back to doing what he was doing before. I told them I'm not coming back over there for nothing again!

You'd think he was an angel when I'm in his presence....in another week, he'll be back up to his old tricks. But his parents won't do ANYTHING, but ask me to come over and discipline him or talk to him. I have a child of my own now. They have maybe 9 children between them. If they haven't yet learned to be parents, they'd better learn soon!

I have only one child, and he's a HAND FULL by himself at his age (under 2). I seriously don't know what the HELL I would do with 2 kids! And he's not even yet old enough to be expensive and want things!
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 08:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Kola was saying that African features is what defines us as a ppl. If you do not have those features you should not represent blackness. Colorstruck black ppl will always want to claim the Bi-racial ppl, because they think it will make us acceptable in white ppl's eyes. But those black ppl who proud of there blackness and know there culture will know authentic blackness when they see it."

This isn't quite true. That's like saying Clarence Thomas is a more "authentic" black leader than Adam Clayton Powell ever was, and we know that's bullshit. Some of you people need to stop smoking crack!!!!!!!
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Renata
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 08:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hell, Serena, a person with brown skin and STRAIGHT hair could never claim white. But a blue eyed, blond haired person can say their grandfather is half black and "poof", they're black.

And no one's (as far as I know) stated the (seemingly) obvious: of course they would rather claim "black".

There was a show on Oprah at least 2 or more years ago where an OBVIOUSLY white family was ridiculed, when it was found out that there was black blood in the family line, years ago. So, they can claim white and be RIDICULED for having black blood by those who look JUST LIKE THEM, and be on the "bottom of the totem pole".

OR, they can claim "black" for that one drop of black blood, move to the hood, and (due to our apparent PREFERENCE for "non-black blacks") BE ON TOP.

Why would someone like Mariah Carey be the white man's mutt, if she knows she can instead be the black man's queen? Mixed blood white isn't treasured in the the white community, the way a mixed blood black is treasured in the black community.
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 09:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE I DON'T GET:

Why is it that obviously BLACK people (who you can't say have white blood unless you ask them) are encouraged to "embrace" their white blood, and told they're not the same as Black/African people because they're more "mixed"

while, obviously WHITE people (who you can't say have black blood unless you ask them) are encouraged to "embrace" their black blood and claim FULL BLACK because "in this society if you're ## percent black, you're black"?

Where's the logic in that?

I had an argument with a fool I met Tuesday. I thought he was West African (straight just jumped off the boat from Ghana. His Nigerian co-worker is actually LIGHTER than he is) before he started to talk. When he did talk, I couldn't place his accent. He said that he was born in Jamaica, but raised in Panama.

This FOOL straight up said he WASN'T black. He's "latino". Can you believe that shyt?
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 09:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shane you make a few good points...i think it's descrimination agaisnt your own when you try to "kick people out of the black race because they don't ahve a certain hair texture or color" . for instance claiming that simply because ones hair isn't nappy and thier skin isn't dark then they aren't black is ridiculous to me... however shane...i feel you lose all validity and the little respect i had from your post when you come out your ass with this bullshit.


"I am telling other African Americans not to support this woman or her colorist book. She is a bitter ugly black woman writing from desperate jealousy. Don't waste your money. "

I'm light skinned my self but your comments even offended me. Why does kola have to be "jealous" of lighter women simply because she's dark....shane, i feel that you're jsut as racist (or colorist) as the person you're accusing of being racist.
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 09:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have to say that i love a lot of what kola has to say and admire her work eventhough i strongly disagree with some of her views and feel she can go overboard at times especially when it comes to the skin color issues in the black community. But, no one will ever completely agree on everyrthing
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Anyways, as I was saying, NAPPY hair is a trait that ONLY Blacks/Africans have. Black AMERICANS try to make it seem that straight hair can also come from 100% black people, but those "blacks" who do have straight hair are heavily mixed, usually MORE non-black than black. Nappy hair (natural) IS ONLY POSSIBLE for black people."


Renata, i use top think this but the more i learn the mroe i disagree with the idea that straight hair can't come form africans.

there are tribes with straight hair who haven't "mixed" as we say it. Not all sudanese are mixed but a lot of them ahve straight hair. If you say africans can't have children with straight hair then where did people from india come from?

the dilits are pure african but they have naturally straight hair.

to go even farther away from africa, where did white people come from...lol...they came from africans.
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 09:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Name one blond, straight haired (NATURAL), blue eyed person with NAPPY hair, and I'll consider your position."

i don't know any celebrity blondes wiht blue eys and blonde nappy hair but i have seen some blonde haired people with blue eyes and very nappy hair.
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My teacher says that you are doing this to create a black standard for darker blacks that will exclude the offspring of interracial couples and lighter skinned people of African descent.

I'm an African mother who wants to see her children survive and exist as themselves, what do you expect?

Your teacher is damned right.

And you have my sympathies.




That's like saying Clarence Thomas is a more "authentic" black leader than Adam Clayton Powell ever was, and we know that's bullshit.

NO--actually, it isn't bullshit.

Just because Clarence Thomas is a TRAITOR and a SELL OUT and MALCOLM X is a supporter and fighter of Black Human Dignity....doesn't erase the fact that Clarence Thomas is an "authentic" black man.

I am going by the African MAN'S standard---not the White Slave Master's standard that so many of you keep behaving as though is written and sent by God.

Many, many of the deepest darkest are TRAITORS/Sell Outs who hate the black race---but they are still GENETICALLY "authentic" black people.

The standard has nothing to do with "deeds".

Anymore than the WHITE standard does.




i think it's descrimination agaisnt your own when you try to "kick people out of the black race because they don't ahve a certain hair texture or color" . for instance claiming that simply because ones hair isn't nappy and thier skin isn't dark then they aren't black is ridiculous to me


But Misty...we've always kicked out and disallowed the BLACKEST folks because they were "too black, too authentic" to represent the race.

Don't you remember?

Why, it's been for 500 years.

Halle Berry and Lena Horne are flaunted on magazines as "THE BLACK WOMAN"----but rarely a real one--unless she's (a) OLD and Mammyish or (b) a dutiful young girl.

So WHY NOT form a new group that caters to the beauty and aesthetic needs of the truly black, the truly African people?

And the CUSHITIC standard has always maintained that the darkest charcoal with the "Proof" (the nappy hair) is the highest among us and the most authentic---as in the image of the mother of our race.

Otherwise--why do you think the Light Skinned Black American women try to return Genetically (as my Arab father did) to mate with the very darkest????

It's because they KNOW instinctively that too much mixed blood distances Africa and authenticity.

Ditto the high yellow men seeking out chocolate women.

You Americans claim "opposites attract"---but that's not true.

When Africa was its strongest, its mightiest---we were WHOLE, COMPLETE BLACK. Un-bastardized and completely human without the curse of White blood and White Thoughts.

By bastardizing us and separating and shattering our skin tones---the White man keeps us from unity, because in order to have unity....you must first be UNIFORMED. And we are too many shades, textures to identify and completely trust each other now.

Technically, I am bi-racial.

But I most certainly would like to see the formation of a truly Black aesthetic that excludes and devalues WHITE SUPREMACIST standards and practices----even if that meant that MY BI-RACIAL self would have to be excluded.

That's exactly what little black children need, REALISTICALLY..so that the Holocaust of Breeding Out that is killing my people can cease.

Of course, those Light/mixed folks who benefit from White Supremacy and are placed above the "darkie folks" are not too enthused.

But we would be happier in a world without them anyway.





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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Kola Boof,

I am a Black British woman who first heard about your story through a report on an English news site:

http://www.blackbritsusa.com/news/news.asp?news_id=531&returnURL=%2Fnews%2Finter national%5Fnews%2Easp%3F

I quickly ordered your book at a store in New York City and have taken it all the way back to London with me.

It's shockingly marvelous. I've have never read anything like it.

I appreciate your courage and while you were saying so much to your sons in the letter "The Authentic Black Man", I was taking it to heart and will raise my future children the same exact way.

I cried when I read "The Authentic Black Man" and I had my Jamaican father to read it. He agreed with everything you wrote and he is now love with you.

Though you wrote it for sons, I wouldn't be surprised if more daughters took this daring essay to heart.

Black diaspora people need this type of book in England.

God bless you.

Althea Pedley March





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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 08:10 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shane, if I could, I would definitely want to exclude you from any new black aesthetic/empowerment movement. Not because of your skin tone, but because of your promulgation of the diseased, destructive notions of black ugliness:

"I am telling other African Americans not to support this woman or her colorist book. She is a bitter ugly black woman writing from desperate jealousy. Don't waste your money."

We can't exclude people like you quickly enough. I look forward to saying, good riddance.
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I second that, Black Wisdom!

Kola,

***Of course, those Light/mixed folks who benefit from White Supremacy and are placed above the "darkie folks" are not too enthused.

But we would be happier in a world without them anyway.***


as usual.. all too powerful!
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 05:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can you BELIEVE some white ppl are still giving credit to a mixed race person's non-black blood as a reason for their intelligence? Like they did with fredrick douglass, but now they give ANY other race then black people credit!

UGH!I would LOVE to make nothing but profiles of Authentic blacks who've achieved in science and technology or elsewhere so they can stop using that BS excuse.

[*angry and annoyed*]

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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Waaaaaaaaaah! Kolaaaaaaa!
[*crying*]

I missed your interview! :-( :-(

I could only pick up Joe madison on the car radio and mom took the car that day. :-( :-(

Are those public appearances in Philly and DC still on?
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Roxie, Black Americans do the same thing with beauty. It's gotten to the point that I don't even compliment people anymore.

Me: Wow, you have such beautiful skin.
Re: Thanks. I have white people in my family.
Me: (thinking) WTF does that have to do with what I just said?....

It's almost as if you can't get clear, flawless skin from black people. Tyrese has gorgeous skin. If I ever meet him and he does the same thing, I'll know even more that something's wrong. It's APPARENT where he got his pretty skin from.
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Actually some of the darkest skinned ppl are the biggest sellouts. They are the ones with the issues about their skin color. So they are the biggest sellouts. I hate to sterotype dark-skinned black ppl like that but thats how many of them act. That is what I notice here in L.A. I notice that the chocolate brothas are the ones sporting all the different races.
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Nobody said that darkest black people weren't the biggest sell outs.

But being a sellout still doesn't negate the fact...that they are BLACKER than people with 30 and 50% White blood, Indian blood, etc.

They have the genetic power of Africa, least tampered with.

You're an American, so TO YOU---Michael Michele is a black woman.

To me, and to African people--no matter how they want to fuck and fettish her white looks, she's not.

Clarence Thomas can be the biggest sell out in the world....and he is STILL blacker than Malcolm X, genetically.

We can TEACH the darkest to love and respect their own kind--which is what needs to be done.

But what can we do with multi-racial people, who can't help but identify with their OTHERNESS and the fact that they benefit from White Supremacy?

That's not our race.






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Serenasailer:

Actually some of the darkest skinned ppl are the biggest sellouts. They are the ones with the issues about their skin color. So they are the biggest sellouts. I hate to sterotype dark-skinned black ppl like that but thats how many of them act. That is what I notice here in L.A. I notice that the chocolate brothas are the ones sporting all the different races.

Tonya:

Uh-uhhh, Serenasailer!

Along with the chocolate brothas, lightskinned women ARE the biggest sellouts. I grew up around alot of lighskinned women, was raised by them, had only them for friends, so trust me, I know. They say shit amongst themselves that they would not DARE say out in the open. They (along with dark brothers) are the MOST hateful, MOST colorist towards darkskinned women.. all while smiling in these same women's faces. Trust me brotha... You just don't know...

And when I use to object to them dogging darkskinned women out that way, you know what they'd say to me?: "oh, I'm not talking about you, girl (and when I was younger "sweetie") you're 'cute to be darkskinned'." No lie!

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