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Crystal

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Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And what a sad, sorry state of affairs itís in. Iím even contemplating something I never thought I would Ė moving. Not really but Ö

So, the state is in such shambles and Gray Davis is so bad of a governor that somethingís got to be done immediately and somebody else has got to do it - now. So, heís gonna be recalled. Now, in his place they want to elect Arnold Schwartzeneger, an actor with NO governing or fiscal experience. Great. What? Not him? How about Larry Flint Ė at least he knows how to run a business. Not him either? How about Gary Coleman Ė yep, heís running. Then, thereís the 99-Cents Store chain offering to pay the entry fees of any 99 year old person that wants to run. No lie.

At the other end of the state we have the Kobe show. Idiot. Iím sure Kobe was ecstatic with Arnoldís announcement. Kept the headlines off him for a minute. But boy-o-boy what an idiot.

You guys are gonna have to keep me informed of whatís really going on cause Iím not gonna be able to watch the local news for a few months.

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ABM

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Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 01:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Crystal, you should CELEBRATE!

Actually, I think what is happening with Californiaís state government is GREAT. I say ANYTHING that defies the Standard Operating Procedures of the onerous Republican-Democrat political cabal is ultimately good for us all. I look forward to witnessing and participating in similar political mutinies throughout the rest of the nation (I wish some of us had the guts to try likewise oust Bush.) And hey. No matter who's elected, at least things can't likely get much worse. Right?

You Californians should be proud! You, in your trendsetting ways, are administering to the bloated and arrogant political establishment a pastdue lesson: That if things are being mishandled right in government, we are going to toss you incompetent stooges out on your a$$e$, and we don't care whether or not your term in up. I mean, really. If Davis truly at fault for what is going wrong, why allow him another 2 years to bury you deeper into a quagmire of trouble?

And us Black folks, many of whom are greatly harmed by governmental mismanagement, should be particularly inspired to review our municipal, county and state laws for opportunities to similarly target and boot ineffectual and racist politicians throughout the rest of the country.

I, however, do not think that Gov. Davis is primarily at fault for what ails CA. The problems that you are having have been in the making for a few decades now. California's costly and conflicting issues of blooming population, residency and immigration, dot.com boom and bust, restrictive environmental policies, the drug war and all the ensuing crime & punishment along with the state's location and general political sentiment have made it nearly impossible for the state to be adequately managed.

Davis' biggest mistake is he willingly took over the steer of the Titanic just before it crashed into the iceberg.

And none of the jokers who may succeed Davis - whether they be a professional politician, actor, pornographer or even..."lion tamer" - is going to immediately, if at all, make things better.

So I'm not suggesting that you move. But you'd better know that no matter who replaces Davis, the 'skies' of the Golden State are going to be stormy for some time now.



PS: What's interesting is Davis is being nationally vilified for a $38B state budget deficit yet the US' deficit is probably 20 times the size of California and we hardly hear a peep about that.

PPS: If much of what has already been reported is true and the trial is held in the county where the alleged rape occurred, LA Kobe will be pressing license plates for the State of Colorado by this time next year.
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Chris Hayden

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Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 01:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM:

I agree with you. Those offices are not hereditary. If the people do not want Gray Davis, he should go.

We have a recall provision here in our city government. Two aldermen have been recalled. Another survived two of them (and was eventually redistricted out).

The people spoke.
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Cynique

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Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 02:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

From what I have heard, the recall of Gray Davis was not a legitimate grass-roots movement, it was the result of a zealous campaign mounted by Republican right-wing conservatives. And the astronomical expense of the recall will plunge the state even deeper into debt. Because it is so well-organized, the political right is on the move and I fear the face of American is going to undergo a drastic change. But as long as the majority of people go along with it, nothing can stop them. The liberal philosophy of the left-wing is apparently played out because of 911, the people want the security of Big Brother and have embraced the blind patriotism that characterizes conservatives. I hope I'm wrong.
As for Kobe, it's very telling how luke warm the support is from his teammates and the black community. Everybody seems to have adopted a wait-and-see attitude, and are not automatically in his corner because he's black. His arrogance has caught up with him, and I don't think his wife is winning him many supporters. Her demeanor seems more indignant than anything, like she thinking how could this nigga do this to someone as great as me?
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Crystal

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Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique is right. This recall campaign was mounted and rode by a multi-billionaire republican who was also one of the first to put his own name on the ballot. Iíve never been a big Davis fan, he just never came across as sincere to me, but he did inherit his problems and theyíre still gonna be there when he leaves. Itís ridiculous to blame the energy crisis on him when it was good ole boy Pete Wilson that pushed through deregulation of the industry to finance his presidential campaign.

Arnold said ďIím going to Sacramento and Iím going to clean houseĒ. He basically said all politicians are no good and he wants to get in there and give the people what they want. Good luck Arnold but with so many different ďwantsĒ I donít see that happening in my beautifully eclectic sunshine state.

Oh well, Iím going to the beach to read.
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Chris Hayden

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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 02:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Looks like Arnold Shwarzenegro is dropping behind in the polls--dodging questions, being the son of a Nazi and raising taxes is not coming across too well--are Californians coming to their senses?
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Crystal

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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:59 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Donít count on it Chris.

Gary Coleman is set to have a debate with a former porn star who is also running. Gray Davis is squabbling with his democratic lieutenant governor, Cruz Bustamente because Cruz has his name on the ballot. And weíre still not even sure when the election will be.

What I donít like is we just re-elected Davis 10 months ago. The republicans couldnít win the election so theyíre trying to get in through the back door with this recall.

Stay tuned.
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Crystal

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Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 03:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh well. We'll see. But I ain't feeling Arnold.

You know, the rest of you guys lucked out cause you know what he'd have his eyes on next if he had been born in this country. Thinking he's part Kennedy and all that.

I've heard that other states [and countries] were watching how the recall went because several of them have that option too - just haven't used it yet. I'll bet they will now though.

At least Connerly's proposition didn't pass - this time. All the emphasis was on the recall, etc. so we didn't hear much about this. The health care folks put on a pretty strong campaign against it stating that they would no longer be able to collect vital information necessary for delivering competent health care services. They never mentioned the word "race" though. I'm thinking that if Connerly had gotten the word out to the white folks of what it was about it may have gotten over. Lost by 60-something percent.

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