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ABM
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&oi=news&start=0&num=1&q=http://www.abc.net |
Chris Hayden
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ABM:
The site you wanted to post did not come through |
ABM
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Below what I am referring to Chris. Don't know why the link is screwy.
Bush Planned Iraqi Invasion Before 9/11, O'Neill Says
By Adam Entous, Reuters
CRAWFORD, Texas (Jan. 11) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill said he never saw any evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction -- President Bush's main justification for going to war -- and was told ''deficits don't matter'' when he warned of a looming fiscal crisis.
Reuters
O'Neill charges that Bush entered office in January 2001 intent on invading Iraq and was in search of a way to go about it.
In a new book chronicling his rocky two-year tenure and in an interview with CBS's ''60 Minutes'' aired on Sunday, O'Neill said removing Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was a top priority at Bush's very first National Security Council meeting -- within days of the inauguration and eight months before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
O'Neill, fired in a shakeup of Bush's economic team in December 2002, told CBS the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later and that he was given internal memos, including one outlining a ''Plan for post-Saddam Iraq.''
''In the 23 months I was there, I never saw anything that I would characterize as evidence of weapons of mass destruction,'' O'Neill told Time magazine in a separate interview. ''There were allegations and assertions by people... To me there is a difference between real evidence and everything else.''
O'Neill also raised objections to a new round of tax cuts and said the president balked at his more aggressive plan to combat corporate crime after a string of accounting scandals because of opposition from ''the corporate crowd,'' a key constituency.
O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits -- expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone -- posed a threat to the economy.
Cheney cut him off. ''You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter,'' he said, according to excerpts. Cheney continued: ''We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due.''
A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired.
The vice president's office had no immediate comment, but John Snow, who replaced O'Neill, insisted that deficits ''do matter'' to the administration. ''We're not happy about the size of these deficits. They're larger than they should be,'' Snow told ABC's ''This Week,'' adding that Bush was committed to cutting them in half over the next five years.
Democrats seized on the book by former Wall Street Journal reporter Ron Suskind, ''The Price of Loyalty,'' in which O'Neill charges that Bush entered office intent on invading Iraq and was in search of a way to go about it.
''What Paul O'Neill says... is what a lot of other people are beginning to conclude -- that there was an overstatement by the Bush administration of the weapons of mass destruction part of the argument for going to war against Saddam Hussein,'' Democratic presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman told ''Fox News Sunday.''
'BLIND MAN'
In the CBS interview, O'Neill likened Bush at Cabinet meetings to ''a blind man in a room full of deaf people.'' When he went in for his first one-on-one meeting with Bush ''with a long list of things to talk about..., I was surprised that it turned out me talking, and the president just listening. As I recall ... it was mostly a monologue,'' O'Neill said.
Democratic presidential hopeful Richard Gephardt, a congressman from Missouri, said he had a similar impression of Bush, telling CBS' ''Face the Nation'' program: ''He is a nice man. And he's a smart man. But he doesn't have experience. He doesn't have knowledge. And he has no curiosity.''
The White House defended Bush.
''I know how he leads, I know how he manages.... He drives the meetings, tough questions, he likes dissent, he likes to see debate,'' Commerce Secretary Don Evans told CNN's ''Late Edition.''
Republican Rep. Mark Foley of Florida accused O'Neill of taking ''a Shakespearean approach to advance his career and his book sales. Not since Julius Caesar have I seen such a blatant stab in the back. Et tu, Mr. O'Neill?''
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Katrina Merriwether
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I'm not the least bit surprised. Bush is the devil!
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ABM
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Correction, Katrina.
Bush is the dummy. Cheney is the "devil".  |
Katrina Merriwether
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Yeah, you're right, ABM.
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Chris Hayden
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ABM:
Thanks, I can think of a couple reasons why the link is screwy, but then you'll be wanting to send me away again. |
Cynique
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If people would only see Bush and his cronies for what they really are: imperilistic fascists! But, as H.L. Menken once said, nobody would ever go broke betting against the intelligence of the American public. |
ABM
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Cynique,
Or could it be that we have become a society of "imperialistic fascists" and Bush/Cheney is simply reflecting what we really are? |
ABM
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Aiight now, Chris. Watch yerself! |
ABM
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But of course I am "correct", My Dear Katrina. However can I be anything other than such? |
Book Father
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Got-naggot!! ABM you're a big ham, I like it 'ol boy.
Now how did that other fella confuse me to be IN PRINT when it's so obvious that you're more like the son I would have.
Good posting, my boy. You're a smart, good man. Keep rop'n 'em in!
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ABM
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Book Father,
Daaaaaddddyyyy!!! Daaaaaddddyyyy!!! I knew you would come back home some day. <<hugs-n-kisses>>
Hey 'paw'? Can I borrow some scratch? |
Cynique
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Yes, you're probably right, ABM. This country really is shifting to the right.
Hope you have better luck in the scratch line than me. Book Daddy already turned me down. LOL |
Chris Hayden
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I heard he was on tv this morning saying that he might have used some "intemperate language" the other day and that if he "could take it back he'd take it back" and that he probably will vote for George Bush in the fall.
When a rich old white guy can't tell the truth in this country it's gettin kinda late in the game. |
Cynique
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Who is "he". The ex-secretary of the treasurer who wrote the book? He's rescinding his accusations?? He must've felt threatened. What a drag. |
ABM
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Yeah, Cynique, it is Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill we are referring to. And yep, Bush/Cheney sikked their slavish minions on 'em.
If things keep going as they are, we ALL will be shouting "Ziek Hail!" to Bush by this time next year. |
Gene_6pack
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Username: Gene_6pack
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 07:18 am: |
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Someone who expected the world to bow before his superior intellect is confronted by someone who says show me. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 24
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 07:31 pm: |
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You speak in riddles, Gene-6 pack. Or is it a forked tongue that lulls us into lowering our guard so you can plant your subliminal ideas into our nappy heads?
And tell me, what do you think of NASCAR's new rules? |
Gene_6pack
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Username: Gene_6pack
Post Number: 10
Registered: 02-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 12:27 am: |
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Paul O'Neil was hurt because the entire Bush cabinet did not dance and wave pompoms when he spoke. Paul was one of many bad appointments on Bush's watch. Mineta was another bad one, but he is still here, damnit.
Is NASCAR anything like Lascar?
I have never been subliminal in my life.
People are discrete individuals much more than members of a class.A nation that does not make the best use of all talents will be less than it could be. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 28
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 01:30 pm: |
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Well, someone like me is naturally suspicious of someone like you who gives all indications of being a supporter of George Bush, the puppet president who has nil qualifications for the job the supreme court handed to him. And now that you mention it, his ineptitude is why this nation is "less than it could be".
BTW, my query about NASCAR stemmed from the fact that many "six-pack, blue collar, super patriotic" white men are rabid fans of this sport.
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