Black Hair, permed, blond and more Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

Email This Page

  AddThis Social Bookmark Button

AALBC.com's Thumper's Corner Discussion Board » Culture, Race & Economy - Archive 2004 » Black Hair, permed, blond and more « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Troy

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 10:47 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Many men and women straighten and dye their hair. Is his a manifiestation of self hate in a white racist society or an expression of the creativity of Black people?

Of course nothing is as Black or white as I posed the question, but I always find it curious when I see a Black woman (the dark skinned variey) with straight blond hair. I'm not attempting to make an judgement of whether it looks good or not; I'm just trying to find out if people think this is more of an attempt to mimick white standards of beauty or simply an innocent attempt to standout.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 11:43 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy--

It's definitely, both in "urban" Africa and America, a direct result of self hatred.

So many times, black women complain that the original Madonna was a black woman and that the White churches took her down.

But everytime we dye our hair blond or mimick European women's hair texture--we also take down our own mother.

The very worst part is that our children are fed the image everyday of Black women in White women's drag....and LET US NOT FORGET...Black women do this, because BLACK MEN are 10 times more interested in any female who looks as far away from BLACK as possible.

Troy, you should read my short story "Black America Diva Girl"--a story set in West Africa that intimately details your question. This is the story that made Brown University put my book on their Womens Studies Reading List. The Professors there told me that it was the best story of its kind every written. It's in "Long Train". It will not only answer your question, but it will fill you with a hundred more things to think about.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynique

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 01:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bleaching one's hair, or wearing long blond extensions is not something that's exclusive to black women. White women do this, too, and also have far more plastic surgery and implants than blacks. It's all about vanity. Nowadays people, in general, and women in particuar, are obsessed with personifying the ultimate in sex appeal as glorified by the media. (Wonder if Lil Kim has ever read a book?)The entertainment industry has become the new Babylon, and its denizens are revelling in the excesses of superficiality that are trickling down into the population at large. It's a sign of our decadent times. And with that war mongering anti-Christ in the white house, can Armageddon be far behind? Well, folks, that should make you day. LOL
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 03:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique...I agree with you about BUSH.

I also think Lil Kim is the little girl from Toni Morrison's "BLUEST EYE" come to life.

More important, however, than does Lil Kim read books...is DID HER MOTHER EVER READ ANY?

This is what I'm talking about. We've got to become a conscious people.

Apparently...AMERICA is a good country, 'cause you dont' see Kola leaving do you?




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Troy

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 06:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola I will read the story you mentioned this weekend.

Cynique, there are a lot of people who believe the end is near, based upon recent events. Then there has always been people who believe that.

I had not considered vanity (which of course is not limitted to Black people). However in every black neighborhood I've ever been to there seems to be an awfull lot of beauty salons. There also seems to be more and more men in these joints as well. Men who spend as much time and money getting coiffed (is that a word?) as any woman. Now don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with a nice hair style, but we seem to spend way too much time and money in this pursuit.

Yeah, maybe it is more vanity than anything else.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 06:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

B.S. Troy and Cynique.

Vanity is a part of it,yes. But why are t.v. commercials in Kenya telling Black women to get "fade cream" to be lighter, brighter and attract more men? The L.A. Times did an article about the new "Micheal Jackson Pill" on the market in Kenya...women are taking it to become more attractive so they can get a "rich husband".

South African women are buying wigs, weaves and GREEN CONTACT LENSES at an astronomical rate. Most say they want to look like the Black American women in the Music Videos...few of whom are BLACK by even American standards...but of course, this "Vanity" you describe..is not simply Vanity.

It's almost insulting Cynique how you ignore the fact that everything that is considered "beautiful"...including the beauty standards printed in your own novel....are ALWAYS non-Black, non-Africoid.

You really think a darkskinned black woman wearing fake blue eyes and fake weaved Blond hair is trying to be "pretty"? NO...she's trying to LOOK LIKE the kind of woman that most Black men in America go crazy for. If Black men went crazy for African-looking women....then Black women would never pick up a straightening comb or a relaxer kit.

LOOK AT "SOUL TRAIN" or watch the videos on "BET". It's increasingly clear that Black men idolize any kind of female who looks as further away from black as possible.

This is why Black women try to immulate those women. And even Black women like yourself...perpetuate those beauty standards.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 06:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By allowing our Black children to see us with our hair straightened and dyed auburn, blond, whatever...our real eyes covered up by fake eyes...we CONFIRM our inferiority.

When society comes and says, "You're mother's ugly. She's black and doesn't look like European women." We have already confirmed this for our children.

When little black boys (in fatherless homes) see all the Black men in the videos hugged up with Non-Black women...it solidifies a message about "black" women. And yet without those black women--we can't get born.

TROY...does not see BLack men relaxing their hair and getting fake eyes and having "bleacing treatments" on their skin. THEY DON'T HAVE TO. All they have to do is mate with a woman who isn't Black. Not because it's the natural FLUID order of things...but because the White man has figured out another way to wipe us out and disconnect us from our authentic selves.

And Black Americans have an abiding TRUST in all things White. They were created that way by the White man. But it's a shame that these images are now being pumped into Africa where the Black people are even more ignorant and less educated.

I guess you guys don't see any of this either, though.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynique

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 07:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Come on, Kola, what did I say that was "insulting?" I said the MEDIA has set the beauty standards which both black and white women are foolishly trying to emulate. And does it EVER occur to you that it's not a one-sided thing? White women covet qualities about black women! They like their flair and their crinkly hair and their big butts and luscious lips and lack of paleness. It's all about what makes a woman attractive to the opposite sex. You may not wear colored contacts but you sure look at thing through KOLA lenses.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 07:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL-Cynique, that was funny.

But let's not forget...

big lips were never celebrated until Angelina Jolie wore them

Braids were celebrated once Bo Derek wore them

Jennifer Lopez gets nearly credited with the age old West African attribute of having a "dukan cake" for an ass

In other words...the beauty of Black women is appreciated...as long as it's not paired with Black flesh.

No matter how long you remain in denial of that...it remains a biased reality in the WORLD media--just as dangerous as police profiling and equally racist.

But I do have the feeling, Cynique that this beauty standard will change. That I am hopeful about.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynique

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 12:44 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The world according to Kola, the orgasm - oops, I mean the oracle of Mother Africa. Ho-Hum. Yawnnn. ZZZZZZZ
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 01:00 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL

"the orgasm"??

Don't get Claxton started. He'll spank us for that!!

You betta hush yo mouf girl!

O.K. Cynique, I'm not going to do anymore preaching. I think I've gotten my point across and as it turns out...I like you all so much.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Yukio

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 03:37 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black women and white women both covet eachothers' physical features, hairstyles, and personal styles, yet the white women's remains the standard. Black women are exoticized, while white women remain the universalized representation of beauty.

Kola, i must make a slight correction: Black women's beauty is not appreciated; It is appropriated!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 05:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lol at YUKIO! "appropriated"

And as my Black American mother would say:

"Girl, you ain't nevah lied!"
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Claxton

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 07:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, there'll be no spanking here...We're too old for that, and besides, it ain't appropriate...

Actually, seeing a black woman with blond hair makes me about as mad as being stuck behind some bozo on his/her cell phone while I'm driving. Blond hair just ain't for black women. It's not attractive to me, period. And I think that any black woman who would have the gall to wear blond hair routinely should have her license to cluck revoked.

There. I have spoken.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Anonymous

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 10:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Didn't somebody say once that the Williams sisters are lurkers to this board? Maybe Serena might want to give her thoughts on this subject. I recall her saying once that wearing her hair blond was a "fashion statement".
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Claxton

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 04:26 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As gorgeous as I think Serena Williams is, I cringe when I see that blond in her hair. I had the same reaction when I saw Queen Latifah--who doesn't get nearly as much credit for her beauty--with the blond highlights.

I'm not a slave to fashion, believe me. And I don't believe wearing blond hair is a fashion statement a black woman (or a black man, for that matter) ought to make.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 08:15 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Claxton I agree with you 100%

**Thomas was here the weekend and told me tell you, Carey, Sista Gal and Chris and Thumper hello.
He's mad I'm on here "runn'n my mouth" (he's so abusive!! LOL), so I'll be cooling it down.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 08:17 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh Cynique, Thomas had mentioned you as well. I already told him you said Hi back.

I still haven't forgot him flirting with you!!

You Ol hussy!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

booked

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 01:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why do the same names come up when talking about black women with blonde hair (i.e., Little Kim; Serena Williams)? Do people really think Beyonce and T-boz have real blonde tresses?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Carey

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 05:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I don't know how I missed the little hello from Thomas. Anyway, tell him hello back and that I hope his world is spinning in the right direction.

Carey
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Chris Hayden

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 11:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think anybody can wear their hair the way they want to. It is what is inside the head that is important.

However, I have seen the agony of women who have dyed, teased, permed and what have you their hair in later years when their abused hair gives out and starts falling out.

I think such treatments ought to be undertaken with great caution. I think it is far better to let one's hair be natural--whatever that is.

I do have some questions as to why a black woman would find blond hair attractive--I have heard the cracks that white folks make behind their backs "Bet she's not a REAL blond."

I remember my mother, God rest her soul, and I were in a cafeteria once. She was very--let us say finicky--about her appearance. She was into all the "good hair bad hair" crap. She spent a lifetime putting her hair through changes and when she was older it thinned and fell out and she wore a lot of hairpieces.

I remember she had one that looked, I must say frankly, like a turd. It kept falling off and a little white girl sitting nearby kept giggling at her. I was wishing she was with an adult male so I could beat the crap out of him. When we left I told Mom about it and asked that we never go back to that place unless she was willing to see me go to jail.

"That's allright. That's allright" she said.
But it wasn't. And we never went back there,either.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Norwood

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He who is in power, sets the tone, asks the questions, provides a choice of answers, tallies the votes, creates the rules, and interprets the results -- you just participate in the process.

So, it is in that context I address the question of 'is it self hate for a sista to wear blond hair,' my answer would be NO. It would be a normal reaction to the mental conditioning that has been a part of their daily American culture. Now for thoses in the motherland that do the same, my answer would be different, that would, in my opinion, represent self hate. The pressure there is not as great, so if they choose to 'go white' I view it with more criticism.

Now, for a sista to go 'natural', to dread their hair, or, to a lesser degree, to braid their is a statement of self love, love for family, and love for a culture. That would also apply to the color of the nail polish, the type of clothes worn, the foods eaten, and the college attended -- my deeper position is that one lives what they love.

[the 'flesh tone' of my cuts and bruise bandages are desiged for a nubian family, live what you love. :-)]
Peace
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynique

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To me, dread locks are a superficial affectation, because they are usually enhanced with synthetic fibers, and are a style that has its roots in the Rastaferian culture, a religion that most people who wear dread locks don't embrace.
As for hair color, I guess if grey-haired women can dye their hair black, then black women can bleach their hair blond.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

ABM

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:47 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree, Cynique. I don't buy much of the rigmarole over hair color, texture, styling, etc. If it helps your self-esteem to look like a rastah, that's fine with me. If you want your hair as straight/blond as Gweneth Paltrow, that ok too. So long as your hair doesn't stink, harbor lice or fall in2 my bowl of tomato soup, I couldn't care less what you do with it.

Besides, we are very hypocritically selective about what should/not be African. The same black people who argue for "natural hair" also drive cars, reside in houses, borrow money from companies that were likely started/run/managed by whites or operate under principles created by whites. Heck! The Internet, very method we are all enjoy using to communicate, was invented by white guys.

So unless we are all ready to go TOTALLY cold turkey on ALL stuff that come from white folks, I say enuff of the phony pro-black dogma already.

The only real concern I have about black beauty/style is we make too little money off of it. How many blacks own any of the factories, retailers, distributors and importing companies selling the tons of cheap make-up, oils/sprays and synthetic and Korean hair that we are plopping down atop our domes? How many of us manufacture and sell the hair coloring? Sadly, too few as less than 20% of the burgeoning black beauty market is owned by AA's.

If someone is going to profit from our Eurocentric-insecurities, shouldn't it at least be us?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ruby Johnson

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 02:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think the question asked was definitly a good one. It was a question that requires thought. It is something that you must first ask yourself, and look at everyone around you. After much thought I have come to the conclusion that our people are full of self-hate. We are taught that the lighter your skin the prettier you are. We are taught threw the media, our parents, and peers, and just society as a hole that you must have long straight hair to be or to look beautiful. Alot of black people may say that it is a form of creativity and in some cases it may be, but as a hole it is not. It is self-hatred towards ourselves, our ansestors, our women, men, and all though we may want the problem to get better; I only see it getting worse. The problem is to deeply rooted. It would require a hole race and nation of people to get intense counseling(which we all know is impossible). So we as individuals need to start with our selves, and then our children showing and teaching them that their dark skin and course black hair is something beautiful.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Troy

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 02:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Ruby

I don't buy into the concept that Black people are attempting to mimic white standards of beauty. Black women do so many different things to their hair. Many of the styles, textures and colors used don't belong "naturally" to any racial group on this planet.

Nor do I buy into the concept of self hatred. Simply because, as Cynique pointed out several months ago, white people also go to great length to modify the natural color and texture of their hair. However white people are not accued of self hatred to the same degree as Black people and they may go to greater extents to change their natural hair.

A great many people (Black and white) are victims of consumerism. Marketers have figured out an way to make many women want to change their hair -- often on a regular basis, at significant cost and time.

In much the same way that someone figured out how to convince women that 50 pairs of shoes is not too many to own, someone has convinced women changing their hair style is just as important. Men are increasingly victims of this as well; more and more of us are spending too much time in beauty salons, jewlery and shoe stores.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Blkmalereading
First Time Poster
Username: Blkmalereading

Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I usually just read the boards but had to pipe in on this one. I was just discussing with a friend that you notice how the 'latin' look is really being pushed with celebrity Black folks. This is the next trend. Look at beoncye (sp). Each year she is getting more and more out there. Patti Labelle even had some new 'look' on the grammy's.

It's interesting that most of the men of any intelligence, class and sense, TELL African women, that we truly don't care for you with all that extra stuff. The blond hair is WAY over the top!! I have YET to see ANY woman that it looks good on!

It's been suggested that the Black man is running the ideas of why the Black woman is wearing her hair a particular way. Well, the brothas I talk to and most on this group has added to that total, DON'T like it!!

I want to go into an entire thing about dreadlocks and it being 'mainly' related to rastas. I can go into a history lesson on that one. But you're right!! We have even found a way to do instant dreadlocks!! Add them in and I didn't even know that was possible!!

Chris gave a wonderful story on the end result of all this so called beauty!! I see it also. I see young women who are already having hair problems. Black women have hair problems because they refuse to leave it alone. Almost ALL natural hair will grow!! If that is what you REALLY want!

Have you ever dated a woman with all that fake weave and things? MAN!! There is NOTHING worse that getting hair all in your mouth, finding it in your sink and shower. Can't even touch and really be romantic because they are sleeping with their heads propped up on a pillow to keep the Madge Simpson style for one more day!! What is going on? The finger nails. I mean, it says nothing but CLASSLESS!! That's it. You're right, you overheard the white folks making jokes about it, the brothers wondering what kind of woman you are. I was so sadden to see Serena with that blond hair! I couldn't believe pop Williams would let them wear that!! IT IS NOT ATTRACTIVE!! The only men I know who think it's attractive are men who are more concerned with how big the rims are on their cars, what flavor blunt their are smoking, what new shoes are on their feet. Of course, someone with a mouth full of mental would want you to join them in their buffoonary!!!

I really DISLIKE seeing it. I'm just amazed that African women are not getting the message. As far as white men inventing anything. African folks were the first to invent math, which you need to invent the computer, so it's like which was first the chicken or the egg and can't remember the brothers name but he invented the part of the CPU, which actually MAKES the computer compute!! It's like with the light bulb. You can't light without the filliment which was invented by the African race.

Western culture is SO dominant that it has reached the motherland and the Caribbean. I think with Africans it is more a matter of 'thinking' they are following fashion. You rarely see an African over here doing this mess, unless they are so Americanized that they are truly lost!! But they suffer from colonialism with is just as fatal as racism!! To be told that your entire culture, religion etc is WORTHLESS and SINFUL!! Can really mess up the best of minds!!!

I think Kola made some excellent point. If this is a fashion statement then I'll be GLAD when it passes!! White women don't make themselves into clowns to the extent that Black women do. Orange hair? Blue hair? Blue Contacts. You look spooky!! Nothing sexy about that. I won't go on!! Thank God for the sisters who love themselves pretty much the way the Creator made them and you can still touch, stroke and play in their beautiful hair. You can save money for the future cause you are not spending money that you DON'T have at the hair dresser. Troy is right the men are just as bad as the women. Okay the throw back sets are kind of cool. But it's NOT cool when you just dropped 150.00 to get it and you only made 300.00. You STILL have bills to pay!! You also don't even have 150.00 saved in a 401K or any type of plan.

Interesting debate. I think I'll post more often, that felt good!

A LUTA CONTINUA!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynique
Veteran Poster
Username: Cynique

Post Number: 56
Registered: 01-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 11:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Next time you go down to the club, babe, see who's gettin all of the action. It'll be the sistas who have enhanced their natural attributes. Brothers may preach that "beauty is only skin deep" sermon, but they don't practice it.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Blkmalereading
Newbie Poster
Username: Blkmalereading

Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 09:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, I hear you. But I also question what type of brotha. Because I just don't see it my circle of friends. The fellas are standing on the side, wondering to each other, what is up with this???? OR they view those type of women as 'easy' and the dogs in the group will say that's the kind that you can get home with, cut off the lights and you don't have to see the hair. But then again, see the type of guys you draw?

But I hear what you are saying and there is nothing I or any other brotha can do to change that. It's just like the old argument that there are good men out here. Who are single, like to read, are not gay or bi or on the DL, looking for a good woman. I hear all the arguments and excuses from the sistas about this also.

You may be right. I need to start paying attention. I just don't see it happening, only a certain group, age, type of woman. I bet you will never see a woman in Oprah's category (money, prestige, class) with these type of 'enhancements'. Why is that?

I hear you....
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Troy
Regular Poster
Username: Troy

Post Number: 29
Registered: 01-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 11:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Blkmalereading I have to admit I essentially agree with your entire statement. Dig it, hair salons are one of the poor community's most popular businesses. Yes poor people will get their hair done before saving a dime, before buying a book and before paying all their bills.

I know many women of very modest means who waste way too much money on unnecessary hairdos.

Blkmalereading this is text book ghetto mentality. Also, ghetto mentality has little to do with a lack of money.

Cynique we have to find you another club to frequent (smile).

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bookgirl
Newbie Poster
Username: Bookgirl

Post Number: 14
Registered: 01-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 11:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brothers; I agree.

But Cynique you're right about those "hair horrors" getting all the play. LOL

It is a ghetto mentality.

Don't try to go to the hair salon on a Friday afternoon for a deep conditioner, shampoo and blow dry 'cause the club sistahs are lined up (babies in tow) getting "they hair did" for Friday nite. LOL I have two sister-in-laws who have their own salons and both of them are making a killing. What 'cha gonna do? Sigh.....
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynique
Veteran Poster
Username: Cynique

Post Number: 57
Registered: 01-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 12:42 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now y'all know Cynique ain't been makin' the club scene lately. I was just repeating what other sistas tell me. (Actually, I never had to enhance my natural assets, and I talked as good game. LOL.) Anyway, I don't know whether black men have room to talk or not because a lot of them are starting to fall under this new "meterosexual male" category.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Crystal
Newbie Poster
Username: Crystal

Post Number: 9
Registered: 01-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 01:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My old son has a strong aversion to “macrame head” women. The favorite style in L.A. among young women appears to be long multi-colored braids with the ends loose and looking like a rat has been sucking on it - a style I can’t wait to see end along with young men with their baggy pants down to their knees.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynique
Veteran Poster
Username: Cynique

Post Number: 60
Registered: 01-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 04:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And, oh yes, Blackmalereading, as far as Oprah Winfrey not enhancing her natural assets, she can afford to have a staff of people who do a good job of "putting her together." She has a personal trainer and a makeup artist and a hair stylist, and she does admit to wearing false eyelashes.
I also think hair extensions are becoming an accepted fashion accessory among all black women. (Oprah's friend Gayle sure wears em!)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Blkmalereading
Newbie Poster
Username: Blkmalereading

Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique:
I've already bowed out and given up on this topic. As a black man, I was simply trying to suggest that their are good quality black men out here and the majority of the ones in my small world, don't particularly care for a all the 'extras' on a woman. Some just want a simple, carefree kind of woman who is about business and cares about her community and has our backs. But I know from experience that I'm beating a dead horse to try to suggest this, because you are right the 'popular' culture has us convinced that this is what the majority of black folks look like. As I stated it's just like the old argument of their are no good black men out here. The good black man could be standing right in front of you and you would still continue to make the point.

As for Oprah. Yes, you're right she does has the people around her. But it's quite obvivous that she has personally decided to not carry things to far. There a quite a few women with money in the public eye and they can't seem to get away from a certain mentality. We've named some examples here. But then that is why she is in a class by herself. I'm sure if she wanted she could wear fake hair, color it all sorts of colors each season or to match her wardrobe, put on some fake nails and wear all sorts of colors. But because she is a business woman, I believe she decides it's not worth it to put out that type of image. She keeps the same 'sensible' hair style during the year. She braids it up on her off time for convenience and I remember back in the day, women would do this to give their hair a break from all the harsh chemicals and such. I recall my grandmother telling my mom and sister this advice. She wears her natural nails, with clear or neutral colors. She is not blink, blinking all over the place and we all know she could. I was just using her for an example of a sensible sister. I said I wasn't going to allow you pull me into this and here I am.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynique
Veteran Poster
Username: Cynique

Post Number: 63
Registered: 01-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 03:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am assuming you are new to the board or you would've realized that I was just "Cynique" being "Cynique". Don't feel obligated to justify your opinions. :-)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Blkmalereading
Newbie Poster
Username: Blkmalereading

Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 12:47 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL! Respect my sister. I'm not new to the board at all (I can see minds working as I speak) I've been around for awhile. I've just had to register and that brought me in from the undergroud.

Respect and Love

Topics | Last Day | Last Week | Tree View | Search | Help/Instructions | Program Credits Administration

Advertise | Chat | Books | Fun Stuff | About AALBC.com | Authors | Getting on the AALBC | Reviews | Writer's Resources | Events | Send us Feedback | Privacy Policy | Sign up for our Email Newsletter | Buy Any Book (advanced book search)

Copyright © 1997-2008 AALBC.com - http://aalbc.com