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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 05:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

YOU HEARD IT AT aalbc.com FIRST:

I just received a "query phone call" from Democratic Committee members asking if I would be willing to give some speeches to black women's groups....in support of a HILARY CLINTON bid for PRESIDENT IN 2008.

My close friend Keith Boykin is a major mover and shaker in the Democratic Party and is also a former Aide to Bill Clinton (in fact, Keith was the first openly gay BLACK aide to a president). I'm assuming he must have recommended me as a "black woman artist" who could generate "passion" for Sen. Clinton.

I said hell yes. I'd be happy to do it.

SO..this is a MAJOR SCOOP. Don't ever say Kola's good for noth'n.








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Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 06:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,
You go girl!! I check out your website your words are deep and moving to me. I really enjoy your writing. AP
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Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 06:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Anthony. You're too sweet.

I think they heard about my speech at the Sudanese embassy in August....with my height and passion for speaking, I'm something to see in person, and they want me to target INNER CITY black voters in D.C., where I was raised....but, of course, if OBAMA runs--I'll have to dump Hilary. They know that.

And word is...they think that Hilary is the only person with enough appeal, that when paired with the right running mate (a southern Democrat with "family values" pedigree)---could dislodge the Republicans.

Anthony, I hope you get a copy of my love story "Flesh and the Devil" for your fiance as a christmas gift!!

If you buy one on this site (aalbc.com) it's AUTOGRAPHED. It's on the Kola Boof page.

Thanks for the compliments, daddy. OOOOPS, I meant "sport".

Forgot you're a kid.




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Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 07:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, I am going to buy your new book but I would also like a personal Autographed copy from you. Let me know where you are going to be speaking and if it's anytime soon. Also I noticed that Alicia Banks is a friend of yours. Do you think she would be interested in my book? I really would like to go on her radio show. AP
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Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 07:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anthony

Email me at kolaboof_email@yahoo.com



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Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 09:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Great news! Congrats!
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 12:18 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Congrats, Kola. But, girl, I'ma pray for you. You gonna have to tone down some to speak to Democratic black women. Very churchy, conservative, old school bunch of folks, even in the inner city. Hide those topless book jackets, Mami...lol
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 12:49 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Lawchic,

I spoke to nothing but black women on by book tour and I always leave them in tears.

My only complaint is that they tend to not see me as a REAL person.

My history and the way I look up close in person seems to overcome them. I gain a "ghost spirit" status in their eyes...which can be very frightening FOR ME.

LOL

Love you, sis. Good to hear from you. Forgive me for not getting my email done.

Hope you like my books.


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Kola_boof
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 12:52 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lawchic:

I have never understood how women who originated in Africa could be bothered by a topless African woman....but not the least bit bothered by a black woman with blond hair and fake blue eyes.

There's something inherently SICK and niggardly about that.

That Beyonce and Lil Kim look natural to them---but not Kola Boof.






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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 12:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Give those bourgeois b@#$%es h*ll, Hershey Kisses!

Because if there's one thing this last election should teach all of us is the status quo uppity newgrow game ain't working no more.

Still. I don't think Hillary has a snowball's chance in h*ll of being elected president of the US(...but she'd probably make out pretty well in the Philipines).
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 01:17 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

MORE MAJOR NEWS:

One of the people that I respect the most in this whole world---Derrick Bell---has written me asking me not to support Hilary Clinton, or rather--not to allow myself to be "USED".

And for those who know how much I love and respect Derrick Bell....

well, OBVIOUSLY...

I cannot support Senator Clinton now.

I truly believe that Derrick Bell is the wisest, most honorable, most valuable Black Man living in America today.

So I will have to retract my agreement to speak for her.





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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 01:35 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

WOW! Just like that, you withdrawl because of what "Bell" says?

Hey Derrick? Can you get Kola to run out to get us a 1/2 dozen pizzas?
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 01:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Damn right!!

Derrick Bell has NEVER told me not to do something.

WELL...he told me not to sue the New York Times back when they ran that drive by shooting they called an "article" about me.

But yes, I worship Derrick's opinion.

If he says don't support Hilary Clinton, then I won't.

Yes, just like that.

He's like a grandfather to me. I believe in him.





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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 01:53 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

So let's say there's me, you and A_womon sitting couch watching TV. And Bell enters the room and say I want you 2 ladies to deal it so tough to ABM that they've got put him in traction when your done.

And if in the process there's some 'overlap' between you 2 ladies, well then, that's just a part of the gig.

Would you do it...just because Derrick told you to?
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 02:00 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LAUGHING!!!!


Derrick would "NEVER" say something like that.

Are you kidding? He's past 80 and he's like a Priest.

Have you read his book "Ethical Ambition"???

He still chastizes me for the "sex smutt" in my books.

*****

AND NO....I would "NEVER" have sex with another woman.

I don't know why people continue to believe that I'm either Gay or Bi-sexual.

People really believe that about me, just because I have so many gay friends, and I'm actually ONLY into men. PERIOD.

Now...I would do a threesome with a guy and another female, but I would not do anything with the other woman. He would just have to do us both.

THAT I could stand.

Not that I plan on doing it.






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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 02:28 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

count me out! I done told yall, I don't do the group sex thang. Im not into orgies.
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 12:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon,

That’s not what I witnessed Justwrite say about you. But I suppose she might have been misquoted in "Dare To Share" magazine.


Kola,

I’m not sure I buy Bell’s or any man’s holier than thou routine when it pertains to pondering the sweeten joys of feminine flesh.

Because I know that all men, no matter their professed piety, are only time, opportunity and an erect phallus away from being caught up in a raid of a New Orleans’ brothel.

And the only thing that’s keeping Bell from out of the game is a creaky back, arthritic knees and his Dr.’s refusal to prescribe Viagra for him fearing sex might make his ol’ ticker explode.

And yeah, I figure I’m barking up the wrong tree with my incessant girl-on-girl solicitations. But, heck, I wouldn’t be a healthy man (least not a straight one) if I didn’t ruthlessly vent my prurient desires before a gathering of succulent, full-bodies women every chance I get.

Now would I?

But I’m happy to see you don’t mind stirring stew within the near proximity of another female. THAT one’s a keeper!

I’ve even made similar requests of my wife. And she has assured me that after the moon turns into cottage cheese and hell freezes over, she might then seriously consider my proposal.

Let’s hope Lucifer buys an overcoat.
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You just can't stop conjuring me up in ya fantasies, can you abm? Justwrite aint said nothin of the sort!
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 02:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon,

I am sorry for including you within my Freudian episodes. But you are right. I "just can’t stop conjuring" you up within my fantasies. I guess it is because of the following reasons:
@ You got a lot of that pre-disillusion fight-the-power 'juice' still left in you.
@ I have sort of a pre-cognitive sense of who will fall for my program.
@ You are spoiling for a catfight something kinda fierce.
@ I figure I can leverage your respect for Kola into getting out of you what I want.
@ You are at that age (that all men LOVE) where you're out to prove you can handle something you really cannot handle.
@ And you aren’t yet old enuff to have become acquainted with the assortment of lies I’ve got to tell you.
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 02:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola said: "I have never understood how women who originated in Africa could be bothered by a topless African woman....but not the least bit bothered by a black woman with blond hair and fake blue eyes.

There's something inherently SICK and niggardly about that.

That Beyonce and Lil Kim look natural to them---but not Kola Boof."

Lawchic says: Sis, you are ALL natural, no doubt. But I'm a keep it real witcha. There's a lot of us (meaning black folk) down here in the Bible Belt. And as much as we want to say we went out and voted for Kerry, I can just about imagine the number of conservative, church going black Democrats around my parts who voted for Bush because of his profession of religious faith. Now, I know you urbanites ain't feelin this, but it's real. These folks may not own up to it today, but I can't wait to see what folks start admitting about their votes after things have cooled down a bit. I assure you there will be quite a few conservative black democrats who voted for Bush. Especially with all the money he is trying to push to black churches who want to initiate faith based community action programs.

And with the Democrats saying keep prayer out of schools and the Ten Commandments out of the courthouse, these folks are not feeling democrats. They don't want us to be at war in Iraq, but they want their tax cuts, they want women to be conservative in dress and manner (and naw, they hate Lil' Kim - ain't nothin about her natural), they want people to have jobs so they can pay their tithe, and they want healthcare cause as holy as they are, they ain't ready to meet God just yet. Those are the black people we've got to satisfy along with the urban crowd who's priorities are totally different.

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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 03:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great post, Lawchic.

BUT...

I'm not ALL natural.

Although I have long hair myself---I do wear wigs a lot and extentions.

And as soon as I can afford it, I plan on getting my once tiny waistline back (via liposuction) and eventually a face lift. Maybe for my 40th birthday.

But my famous breasts are 100% God-given.

My complaint wasn't about women accessorizing their looks....my complaint was with Black American women embracing the European woman's image on a black woman...but consistently rejecting the black woman's image in her natural state. I can't imagine buying a CD with Beyonce or Ciara or even Janet Jackson on the cover, but then cringing at the sight of an African woman on the back of a book topless.

It so obviously PROVES that we've been niggerized---to the point that we don't even recognize our own mother when we see her.

BUT...in Memphis, Tennessee THOSE black christian southerners welcomed me with open arms and were INCREDIBLY loving and hospitable to me. I had more fun on my tour in Memphis than anywhere else. I also had a wonderful time in Mississippi with black poetry group. My books continue to sell well in those areas--and Atlanta, so I do believe that once the people understand THE WORK's nature---they are more accepting.

This is exactly why I do the nudity. Because WE MUST reclaim those images and "what they mean"...so that our children will know WHY their ancestors believed in women being topless. There is great complexity and dignity and MORALITY in exactly why that was.

It was originally OUR crucifix.



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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 08:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, Kola, you know I gotta take you to task for even considering jumping on the Hillary Clinton bandwagon, - you who have so much disdain for blond, blue-eyed, white women born to lives of privilege. Why would you do an about-face and become eager to be a part of a movement to elevate Hillary to a position of power? Yes, she is a female, but she is also a part of The Establishment. I sometimes think you get star-struck. tsk-tsk.
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 11:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola said: "BUT...

I'm not ALL natural.

Although I have long hair myself---I do wear wigs a lot and extentions.

And as soon as I can afford it, I plan on getting my once tiny waistline back (via liposuction) and eventually a face lift. Maybe for my 40th birthday."

Lawchic says: Sweetheart, I was talking about your spirit. Not your exterior trappings. That stuff doesn't matter. Your spirit and heart are all natural. You say what you feel and believe it and live it everyday.

I am the same way. I say what I believe and live it out every day.

We're not phonies. We may disagree on some things, but we're not phonies...we're all natural.

And a facelift at 40? YIKES!! I just turned 40 on Oct. 8th. I hope I don't need a facelift yet!
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"Lawchic:

I have never understood how women who originated in Africa could be bothered by a topless African woman....but not the least bit bothered by a black woman with blond hair and fake blue eyes.

There's something inherently SICK and niggardly about that.

That Beyonce and Lil Kim look natural to them---but not Kola Boof. "

CHUUUUUUUUUUUUCH!!!
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 07:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

After all the nipping/tucking, how can you still assert your claims of being an authentic Black/African woman? Because subjecting yourself to that suggests that you too have succumbed to the fallacious Western beauty standards of perpetual youth and vitality.
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM,

I'm a vain bitch.

You know that.

And half the women in Africa would get nips and tucks and facials and makeovers----if they could afford it.

BUT STILL....my "succumbing" is to LOOK like my black African self. Not to look like my slave master's mother. There's a big difference.





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I don't know if I'm with you on this one, sis. What is the matter with letting your age and maturity show? I agree with keeping one's body as healthy as possible through moderation, proper diet and exercise, but I don't support the idea of continuous operations to sustain it.

Remember the beauty of black African women like Miriam Makeba and Muta Maathai (fyi, she just won the Nobel Peace prize). Or the afro-Cuban diva Celia Cruz.

You won't be looking like your slave master's mother. You'll be looking like your mother and your mother's mother...like your ancestors. My grandmother died recently. She was 84 and beautiful to me and everyone who knew her. I hope to be just as beautiful and dignified when I'm 84 and you will be too. I told you already "good black don't crack."
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I totally agree with your wisdom, Lawchic. I totally agree with everything you say.

But unlike the women you mentioned.

I started my career as a "model" and I've appeared in about 40 Arabic films, starring as the lead in about 7 of them.

True enough...it's bad...but those of us who are weened in the world of "show biz" are notoriously sensitive about how we look.

On top of that, Lawchic--I've BEEN with men. Not in a good way, for years, when I was young. I am ruined and poisoned by that.

Also, as a woman who is 6'3--I struggled horribly with accepting my "height"--something that is truly held against a FEMALE no matter how the men claim it's sexy. What they really mean is that it's a "sexual oddity" to them--not necessarily their dream for marriage.

All this to say...I am VAIN and INSECURE about my looks. I always have been.

And no black don't crack---but it hangs.

I had gained 40 pounds after I stopped smoking cigarettes and then forced into hiding because of the death threats.

REMEMBER: A writer sits at a PC 18 hours a day writing for months and months. It's very hard to write at the pace that I've been writing and to get exersize or to eat right. Especially with a man and 2 kids who want a cake baked every 3 days.

As I am now losing weight, there is "extra" skin left over. Even my celebrated breasts are beginning to sag slightly (although, when they do finally SAG all the way--I am NOT going to have them fixed. I want them to sag, because on the Nile, that is considered very beautiful).

There's nothing LESS STRIKING than a 6'3 woman who looks sloppy and out of shape. And being a public figure, it's very hard to ignore your looks---especially when there's so much pressure and especially when you're so loathed and feared as I am...people use your looks to attack you, and no matter how intelligent and strong you are, these attacks hurt.

One thing that the tour taught me....is that my physical appearance can be a great asset to me in trying to advance thoughts and ideas that are very "disturbing" and "controversial". Many MEN who hate my feminist rants--are turned to putty when I smile at them in person and when they see how soft and sweet I am. And with death threats on my head--I need all the MALE SUPPORT I can get.

My work is fantastically HARDCORE and being "pretty" helps to soften the resistance of my attackers. They cannot claim that I am just BITTER because I'm "ugly" and "no wants to fuck her".

They cannot dismiss me.

And as well....I am suddenly single, and I do want to experience having a man in my life again, and I literally can't fuck if I don't feel desirable and attractive.

It's not easy for a dark brown black woman to possess the men SHE WANTS in America.

*******

I totally agree with your wisdom, Lawchic. I totally agree with everything you say.

***********

BUT I...Kola Boof....am just not strong enough to age gracefully.

I'm a vain and I'm a ham.














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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 02:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Girl, you'll be all right and you will find the right man someday. Do whatever you need to make yourself "look" better (you're right, showbiz and public speaking is a very visual world). As long as you know being perpetually young and beautiful will never make you "feel" better. Only loving and accepting yourself for who you are does that. That's why I never respond to anyone's insult on this board. I know who I am and I love and accept myself (even if I would like to lose a few pounds). Nothing anyone could say about me or my way of thinking could ever hurt me because I know who I am and I'm not trying to please or secure the admiration of other people. I know that my husband loves every ounce of my flesh and every scar that my body bears from birthing his son. He loves me (whatever that may entail).

Now, I'm going outside to plant some flowers (to make me feel better...and get my butt up from in front of this PC).
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 10:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I don’t fault you for doing what you feel you have to do to help maintain your self-esteem. But do me a favor: Do the tata’s when you do the mug. Because what guy wants to cozy up a chick whose face looks like Beyonce's yet when walking her nude breasts sweep the floor.

Also, whatever you do, DON’T use Joan River’s plastic surgeon. Otherwise, when you open your mouth, you’ll look like you’re frenchkissing a hurricane.


Lawchic says: "I know that my husband loves every ounce of my flesh and every scar that my body bears from birthing his son."
ABM says: Hmmmmm. I guess that explains why he keeps showing pictures of your tummy to his homies immediately before/after your liposuction.
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Lawchic
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 10:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Liposuction? I wish. Gotta save up for that AND the tummy tuck (lol).

At least I don't need the "bootyologist" for the Brazilian Butt-lift. Have you seen that brotha on Extreme Makeover on ABC? He's a little odd looking. I actually saw him giving a black woman a butt-lift. Believe it or not, she actually needed it. Her homegirls were amazed at her new booty. It was like pla-dow!

And my husband won't let me get implants. He's afraid they would "feel" different. LOL. Maybe just a lift.
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 12:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lawchic,

My wife and I have toss around the idea of her getting a nip/tuck here/there too (though I am smart enough let her lead the conversation...hehe!).

But I've got to admit am scared after the work's done she'll have the look/feel of a freshly made mannequin.


Naw. Haven’t seen the South American @$$lifter. But I tellyah: That sounds like my kinda "must-see-TV"!

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