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Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 666
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:11 pm: | 
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This won't be the first time but apparently there is a new phenomenon or music category that has come about called Smooth Jazz. There is even a whole station here in town dedicated to it and a tv program on the weekends--ok so I'm out of it. So the last jazz I listened to was "Dippermouth Blues" (Oh Play that thing!) and "Black Bottom Stomp". So sue me.
Anyway, who will step forward and expound upon the phenomenon? |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1389
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:17 pm: |
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YUCK!
I can't STAND the stuff! It is like a cross between BAD Jazz and BAD R&B. I can't change a radio station quick enuff the moment I hear any of it. |
Bleekindigo
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Username: Bleekindigo
Post Number: 109
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:44 pm: |
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Yeah Chris, I'm with ABM. For some reason, all "Smooth Jazz" Sounds like watered down 80's music to me! It's terrible.
Bleek- |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1413
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:47 pm: |
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Come on, Chris, are you trying to give me enough rope to hang myself?? LOL. You can't be that unfamiliar with smooth jazz which is also referred to as "quiet fire" or "easy-listening" and, in its more edgy version, as "jazz-fusion." Actually, it's been around about 15 years. Jazz afficionados pretty much dismiss it as "pedestrian" and commerical. A early interpreter of this genre is soprano saxophonist, Kenny G., but the field is crowded now with some really good instrumentalists who are stretching out with it, e.g. guitarist Norman Brown. This is also a genre particularly popular with the after work "buppie" crowd. I, myself, like it because it's melodic and good music to relax by. BTW, the vocalist in the this category are referred to as retro-jazz singers, e.g. Dianne Reeve and Jill Scott and sometimes Erica Badu. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1393
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:01 pm: |
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Bleekindigo,
Anytime you’re talking about "watered down 80’s music", which was mostly terrible via by definition, you KNOW the stuff is awful
Cynique,
The vocalists I can tolerate okay. But I have never embraced the Kenny G fad. That stuff just sounds like music that someone that is seeking some (of Bleekindigo’s "watered down 80’s") lyrics. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 667
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:34 pm: |
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Was Bob James and Najee a part of the phenomenon? How about the Marsalis Bros? |
Bleekindigo
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Username: Bleekindigo
Post Number: 111
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:16 pm: |
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I don't know Bob James. Najee, to me is a part of that phenomenon. The Marsalis Brothers, No!! No!! No!! The Marsalis brothers have more of a classic jazz feel. Nothing watered down about them!!! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1415
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:46 pm: |
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Najee is a black version of Kenny G. Yes, Bob James is definitely smooth jazz, as are Four Play and Pat Matheny. Saxophoist Dave Coz and guitarist Stanley Jordan are more jazz-fusion. |
Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 120
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:06 pm: |
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Dave Coz is one of the DJs for the smooth jazz station in L.A. I listen to it sometimes when I want background noise. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 668
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:46 pm: |
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Well Cynique--it looks like you are our resident Smooth Jazz expert and shall be called upon in the future to teach and expound upon the subject--I shall resort to you when I am in need of recommendations or opinions--usually when I want to ease up the pace, slow down and reflect or get romantic I listen to Jimi Hendrix, Howlin Wolf, Funkadelic, Frank Zappa, or James Brown and nothing else, but lately I have had the urge to feel (shudder) mellow sometimes and have sampled it.
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Bleekindigo
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Bleekindigo
Post Number: 113
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:01 pm: |
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Chrishayeden:
"DON'T GO WHERE THE HUSKIES GOOOOO AND DONTCHU EAT THAT YELLLLOOOOOW SNOW!!!
Bleek- |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1417
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:10 pm: |
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You know "Howlin Wolf" is a Chicago denizen, Chris. 'Used to check him out way back when I was going through my blues phase. Ironically, there were always more white people at the clubs where he'd appear than blacks. And today's young blacks have pretty much abandoned their blues roots. tsk-tsk. And, yes, "mellow" pretty much describes what emanates from the smooth jazz vernacular. That's what it has going for it.
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Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1397
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:45 pm: |
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Cynique,
It is indeed a shrinking world. A late relative of mine performed, produced and arranged music with Howlin' Wolf (and another departed Chicago blues great Muddy Waters).
Bleekindigo,
HAHA! |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1422
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 06:12 pm: |
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Is one of these performers the mysterious famous person whom a while back you said you were related to??? |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1403
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:15 pm: |
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Cynique,
YEP! I have been disappointed that NO ONE has guessed his name. It's too bad too.
Because he was the finest producer/arranger of popular American music since George Gershwin. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1404
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:16 pm: |
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And Cynique you of all people should know him because he was a life-long Chicagoan. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1424
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:07 pm: |
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Well, Chicago is a big town, and I've never actually lived there, only in its suburbs. Quincy Jones is from Chicago, but I know it ain't him, is it???? |
Linda
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Username: Linda
Post Number: 61
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:42 pm: |
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Hey ABM--Is it Willie Dixon that you are talking about? |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1408
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:09 am: |
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Cynique,
No. Though he is a contemporary of Jones.
It interesting. You can rattle off some fairly benign musical talents. Yet the finest, most influential producer/arranger of modern American music was just outside your own backyard, and you don't even know who he is.
Linda,
No. Though he did work with Dixon as well. He was worked with Waters, Wolf and Dixon, but he was not strickly or even primarily a Blues producer/musician. He's talents were much broader than that. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1409
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:12 am: |
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Ladies,
Find a friend who REALLY knows American music that has been produced over the last 1/2 century. Ask him or her this question along with the information I have presented here. I'm sure they'll provide you the correct answer. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1428
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 02:03 am: |
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Why do we have to go through all of this trouble? Why can't you just reveal who it is, and be done with it. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1411
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 06:35 am: |
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Cynique,
Because what fun would there be in doing that?  |
A_womon
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 809
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 07:01 am: |
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Well, abm, what's the sense in draggin it out for 10 years???? |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1412
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 10:34 am: |
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A_womon,
I'm not "draggin it out". I guess part of me hopes that one of you would ‘discover’ who he is on his own.
Frankly, I’m a bit peeved that NO ONE has divined who he was. And I am especially disappointed in the otherwise musically initiated Cynique. Because I can’t imagine any +40 year old Black Chicagoan (and that includes suburbanites!) who really knows Black music would NOT know who he was. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 670
Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 11:15 am: |
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Abm:
You done did this before and if you say it was Willie Bobo or somebody real arcane and obscure that nobody would guess in a million years I am going to find you and I am going to kill you. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1417
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 11:26 am: |
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Okay...okay!
Dang yawl slo'!
Here's a hint: He wrote/produced/arranged recordings for Ramsey Lewis (Cynique: another famed Chicagoan) and Deniece Williams (Cynique: melodic pride-n-joy of greater Chicago's Gary, IN). |
Miss_wysteria
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Username: Miss_wysteria
Post Number: 243
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 11:46 am: |
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Is the song by Deniece Williams "It's My Melody"???
I love that song.
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Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 578
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 11:59 am: |
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Kill him already, Hayden! He's makin' me crazy with this "guess,guess" shytt! |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1422
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:11 pm: |
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Man! Yawl have access to google, yahoo, etc. And (I thought) you all are smart.
I can't believe with the info I've already given you you haven't figured it out yet! |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1423
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:14 pm: |
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Miss_wysteria,
No. He, alas, died before "My Melody" was written/released. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1426
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:38 pm: |
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Chris,
My relative performed with, wrote, arranged/produced for Junior Wells too. |
Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 121
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:49 pm: |
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Always the teacher huh ABM? I hate that "go look it up" shyt. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1430
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:54 pm: |
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Crystal,
Oh! That's what all my female student complain about. But aftah I'm dun trainin' dem up, dey are rite proud of duh kinds of thangs dey now no' how tah do.
Yu will too. |
Crystal
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Crystal
Post Number: 123
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 01:20 pm: |
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Be careful now ABM. There's a lot of things I already know how to do. But let's not forget this is a family forum. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1429
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 02:45 pm: |
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Why do I get the feeling that if this mysterious person is ever revealed, I will end up with a blank look on my face, still not knowing who he is??? |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 675
Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 02:56 pm: |
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Cynique:
I'm gonna tell you I bet it's somebody we never heard of--it is probably Abm himself (or his secret identity)
"This guy never got his props!" he gonna moan, singin' dem Lawdy Lawdy Abm Blooze and we will say,
"Because nobody but you knows who he am, Abm!" |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1433
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 03:35 pm: |
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Chris says: "...it's somebody we never heard of--it is probably Abm himself (or his secret identity)
ABM says: Still like playing those "I’m a Secret Agent Man" game, huh? Have you gotten your special decoder ring from the Captain Crunch cereal people yet.
Cynique says: "Why do I get the feeling that...I will end up with a blank look on my face..."
ABM says: And now WHAT would be unusual about THAT? (LAWD help me, but she makes it so easy!)
Crystal says: "Be careful now ABM. There's a lot of things I already know how to do. But let's not forget this is a family forum."
ABM says: Yeah. The fellas at the local motorcycle club filled me in on you. But, hell, I’ll hit my ‘stick’ at’ah rattlesnake if I ‘spect I’ll have good time doing it. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1433
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 03:48 pm: |
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All of those in favor of relegating this subject to File 13, say "aye." |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1441
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 04:27 pm: |
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Okay. I'll give you ONE MORE hint. But this is IT. If you can't get it after this, yawl really outtah be ashamed of your grown@$$ selves.
He wrote, produced and arranged music for EARTH WIND AND FIRE! |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 676
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 05:01 pm: |
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Hit the "ignore" button folks. He ain't gonna tell us and we can't guess. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1438
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 05:07 pm: |
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Is it Maurice White? If it is him, the reason I didn't guess it was because, as far as I was concerned, his claim to fame was as a performer. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1444
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 05:17 pm: |
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Cynique,
Close. Very close...he was White's mentor. They both worked together with Ramsey Lewis at your former local Chess-Cadet records, which was adjacent to where your McCormick Place complex now resides. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1445
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 05:19 pm: |
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What I find odd is all it would take is for you to enter a few combinations of the hints I have already given you into a search engine and his name would almost doubtlessly appear. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1446
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 05:20 pm: |
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I guess I presume that foks who spend as much time on the web as you all do would be fairly fluent in wielding google. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1439
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 05:21 pm: |
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If I haven't gotten it by now, I won't get it. I give up. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 678
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 05:39 pm: |
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Leonard Phil or Marshall Chess |
Linda
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Username: Linda
Post Number: 66
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 05:49 pm: |
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Ok, ok, it's...John Hammond...right? |
Linda
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Username: Linda
Post Number: 67
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 06:02 pm: |
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Or is it Charles Stepney |
Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 125
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 06:03 pm: |
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Does he share a name with a former football star turned basketball commentator? |
Linda
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Username: Linda
Post Number: 68
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 06:07 pm: |
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Yep, I'm right. It's Charles Stepney. Tell em' ABM. I'm right, I'm right, I'm right. |
Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 126
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 06:14 pm: |
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OK, but what is the prize? Knowing ABM you might not want to win. |
Linda
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Username: Linda
Post Number: 69
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 06:21 pm: |
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Crystal. I believe you have hit upon a valid point of concern. Hmmmmmmmm! |
Sisg
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 09:04 pm: |
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Bingo Linda,
I think you've got it...at least from my research, I've come up with the same name, Charles Stepney, but....sorry to say, although I am so familiar with the artists he's worked with, I would have never guessed, so Cynique....my face looks alot like yours. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1443
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 11:14 pm: |
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I plead ignorance. I never heard of Charles Stepney. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1448
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 12:45 am: |
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DING! DING! DING!
We have a WINNAH!
The relative that I am referring to is indeed the illustrious CHARLES STEPNEY!
Thank you Linda! (JEEZ! I thought you foks would NEVAH get it!) |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1449
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 12:48 am: |
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Crystal/Linda,
HAHA!
If you ONLY 'knew'...you would 'know' bettah! |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 257
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 01:52 am: |
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ABM I read that he was involved with Rotary Connection, I thought I was the only one on the block that had ever heard them. Btw, I can't even remember the album and I think there was only one song on it that I liked. Yeah, it was back in my "love peace and happiness" days. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1451
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 02:24 am: |
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Foks,
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/1702.html?1096439016 . |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 814
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 07:29 am: |
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Linda got it riiii-ight! Linda got it riiiiiiii-ight! Linda got it riiiii-ight....!!! Go Linda Go Go Go Linda... Now do ya dance! |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 680
Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 10:03 am: |
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Of course! I knew all along! I was just fooling you people. You probably didn't know he was at work on my album, "Chris Hayden With Strings" when he succumbed. Ah, I might have had a whole other career if that record had been finished. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1454
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 10:38 am: |
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A_womon,
Linda sure did. Congrats again to her (Gave her enuff hints to choke whale...but I 'spose that's beside the point.)
JEEZ! Yawl some SLO-MOTION ("for me") foks. (hehe!)
Chris,
Seriously, if you had the great honor and fortune to have worked extensively with Charles Stepney, you might now be absconded somewhere in a mansion lighting Cuban cigars with C-notes. |
Linda
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Username: Linda
Post Number: 70
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 11:23 am: |
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ABm - you are right. It took me a minute. But-Oooooo I like it like that, don't know how to act, slow motion for me. *smilin-styling-popping-whirling* slow motion for me.
Awomon - Thanks - I'm gonna do that thang...do that thang, yeah! (trying to get up off the floor from all that crackalating-twisting and popping) LOL |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1457
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 12:16 pm: |
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Uh Oh, fellas!
Lookey dur. Linda backin' dat thang up.
Cum on ovah hur, gal. Daddy got sum 'change' ovah hur yu needtah cum trytah urn. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 258
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 02:27 pm: |
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Linda
Now don't be boncing it off the flo', leave that for those young hoochie mamma's. Just get you a nice sofe bed and THEN back that thang up! Oh lawd, I can dream can't I? Man, I went to the club the other night and them girls ain't got no shame. When ol'boy hit that part about "show that P'y to me, them broads went freak for real. I kind of had to turn my head......kind of *smile*. I felt funny because my natural senses said to look but when I noticed one had locked onto my eyes I really didn't know what to do. So like I said my natural senses kick in and I did was was natural......got that number *lol*. Nooooo, I'm kidding. Not about all the action but about the number thang. Wow, talkin' about free expression. So Linda, if you feel like ahhhh.....slo' motioning for someone you have my address *lol*.
But of course it will have to be our little secret. Secrets are cool, and in a strange way a must. One can't let the hubby know you got a little freak in ya. |
A_womon
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Ooooooooooooooooooh Mr Careeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy!mmmmmmhmmmphmmmmmmmmmmmmph!! You looked....you know you did, go head and admit it!!!
Linda,
...all that crackulatin...!!! HHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!! Tooo Funneee!!!
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Cynique
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Go head on, Linda! Who'd have thought it? |
Abm
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Cynique,
I did. I can smell a sistah that likes to go "slo-motion" a WORLD away.
Right Bleekindigo? |
Linda
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Post Number: 71
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ABM - You're gonna have to show me what you working with first. Then pull out that diamond card for collateral.
Carey - Believe me. He knows! LOL
Awomon - Winning brings out the best in a lady....you know!
Cynique - Oops, you right. I am so ashamed. Who is that woman? I thought my alter ego had been submerged years ago. Bad girl, bad girl. Get back inside! |
Bleekindigo
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Post Number: 118
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Abm!!!
How could you say such a thing! What is the implication in that?
I can smell a sistah that likes to go "slo-motion" a WORLD away.
Right Bleekindigo?
I more prefer to SHAKE WHAT MY MOMMA GAVE ME...HARD AND FAST!!! OOps!
Ugm Ugm (me clearing my throat.)
Abm I don't know what you're talking about.
Bleek-
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Abm
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Post Number: 1473
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Linda,
Indeed...and likewise. You show me yours I’ll show you mine. And if you show me A_womon’s too, I show you even more!
And thanks. Cuz now that I know whatchu ‘are’, we can start to negotiate a price.
My Bleek, My Bleek, dah Supahfreak.
You leave a brothah oh so weak.
That I can hardly even speak
My Bleek, My Bleek, dah Supahfreak. |
Carey
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Post Number: 259
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**cough cough**
Excuse me y'all but it's getting a little tight up in here. Boy oh boy, all a brotha has to do is just crack the door and y'all spill the beans, droppin' your panties as you go. But hey, gotta do what cha' gotta do.
A_women, what you talking about .
I don't go window shopping. I have a hard time looking at something and not being able to "have" it. So I ain't into that "show me" thang. I'd prefer to take them at their word and say, "let's get it on".
So no, I didn't peek at it. Besides, I've never been the kind of fella that couldn't catch. I'm not being vain but if the truth be told I at times wished that I wasn't the one guy one women sort of fellow. But then again I'm proud to say I am. So all the winks and blinks were nice to recieve, I didn't party like that.......you know this. I guess to look ain't doing wrong or is it?
Anyway you fine young thang, let it be known that I'm now single and the other side of my bed is still vacant. Ain't no shame in my game so I'm not on some ego trip thinking less of myself if I didn't spread the sheet just to get a ........you know. In fact, I've come to enjoy my solitude. I do miss all the fringe benefits that comes along with having someone close but time will take care of that or it will not.
I'm stepping up to the table with my thang on right. I am okay to look at and have a nice paying gig. I have a house that is paid for and two cars to drive and a hoopty too. I've been around the world so I can kick it with the best of them. I'm coming to the plate carrying something, I'm coming correct, know what I mean. I love to kiss and can make a women smile so, tell them to bring it, cause I'm open and honest and all they have to be is real. Game thang is dead, I ain't got time nor the desire for all that. At the present I ain't lonely just alone. I am however about to put this thing in drive and intend to pick from that tree. Yes sir buddy, it's sunny out today and I'm feeling fine. There was a time I didn't ever think this day would arrive but there obviously is a god and he's working on me, that's for sure because you know what, I'M STILL HERE!
So stop throwing salt on my game and get you some....ahhh.....ahhhh . |
Carey
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Post Number: 260
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Hello
One more thing. What do you guys think about a distant love. See, I've been talking to a women that lives some distance from me and.......well I don't want to say to much but let just say or pretend that she visits this site...okay...play like. Anyway, I've never been involved in a thing like that but can something like this work out. I've been "saving" myself for the maybe. Hey, I gotta go so I'll just let you think about it. I have to go make some money so I can spoil this women with me and all the fine things in life. But........I don't know. |
Cynique
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Let it all hang out, Linda! Whatever happens on Thumper's corner, stays on Thumper's corner. Show us what ya got, Bleek. We gotta a party up in hur. Can we get this Electric Slide thing goin! |
Crystal
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Congratulations Linda! I knew you had it in you girl. Oh yea, and good lookin out on that name-that-artist contest too.
Carey! I thought we were gonna keep that not-so-little thing a secret.
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A_womon
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dee dee dee elec tric sllllllide!!!! Are you with me?? come let me take you ona pahty riiiiiiiide and i'll teach you teach you teach teach you the elect tric slllllllliiiiiiiiide....
Hey now EVERYBODY move riiiight come on now! Leeft! come on Carey ABM Bleekk Cyn Crys, Bre, Linda!! Back that thang up! come on now swing it!! hahahahahhaha!!! |
Carey
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Post Number: 261
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Cyrstal: ?
A_women: You something else, you crack me up.......sometimes. Just picture Thump, Linda, ABM and Zola doing the slide. CAn you get with that, huh *smile*. I can see ol'thump moving that trunk of his right into Zola and them two getting in a fight, right out on the dance floor. And for some reason I can picture ol'ABM out on the floor counting his steps and looking at his feet. And of course since you are the youngin in the bunch, you would be over in the corner or better yet, up on a stage bumpin' it off the floor. See, I KNOW YOU can get there. Oh yeah, I can see you pushin' and pullin' and just gettin' it on. Ol'cyn-cyn would of course be there. She's be the lady at the door messin' with folks *lol*. Chris would be that old lounge lizard that tries to pull the yooung thang with the promise of money and far away places. That S**t works too. But anyway, I don't even know how I got on this or where I'm going so bye now.
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Linda
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ABM - If you need to know the price . . . then you can't afford it! LOL
Now, step to the left, step to the right, turn around and break it down all night! |
Carey
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Post Number: 262
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Hey Linda, sounds like you know a little somethin'. Let me look at the back of your book one more time.....hold on....*pause while I go get the book *.........okay, now lets see, uuummmmm, don't look like you'd have that in you but you know what they say about judging a book by it's cover. That reminds me, I was talking to a friend of mine and he said you can't look at a women and tell what she might....ahh...be like in the bedroom because some will surprise you and be a real "nasty girl". I said, look partner here's where your thinking is all out of wack. First, all.....ALL women are "nasty girls" when the door is closed and it's you and them, man it's time to get on your job and the only rules are no kissing and telling. He said, "really" . I said don't you for one minute think that all women LOVE to be nasty. He looked at me like I'd just given him the keys to the city. I informed him that once the feeling of is it okay to do this or say that is out of the way, it's on. Maybe I need to say this, from my experences that's what I have come to believe. Now y'all will have to pull my coat if I'm not on target. |
Cynique
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Ain't nobody gettin in here for free! I don't care who you know. There's a 10-dollar cover charge and if you aint' goin for that, I'll let you talk to Thumper. Wait a minute, sucka. Get back! Where's our bouncer? LAMBD! HEY, LAMBD! WHERE ARE YOU? LAAAAMBD! UH-UH. QUICK! SOMBEBODY! CALL 911! |
Abm
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Post Number: 1483
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A_womon,
Okay, Lucy Liu. I'm right behind you. So work that thang...and I'll enjoy the view.
Carey,
You got it, Chief. Once dat 'love come down', all a brothah's gottah do is let what be...be.
It looks like you're holding it down on your end it good-n-proper like. All you need is to stock up on Viagra/Trojans, you're ready to roll, Iowa.
Yeah. I do like a lil' show-n-tell. I'm jus kinda freaky dat way. And I dig a chick that's got a summah dat in her too. To me, that bespeaks a certain kind of confidence...almost a delicious arrogance...that one has about oneself.
Seriously, though. Relationships are tuff, regardless of the point of entry. In the end, it's all about acceptance, appreciation and love. If you and your intended earnestly pursue those, you should be okay, be it via Thumper's Corner or no.
Happy Hunting (but wear a rubber!)!
Linda,
I'm a entrepreneur, Baby. So brothaman prepped to figure whether he's gettin' good value for his money.
'Sides. I may wanna know what kinda trade-in value you're workin' with, hooty mack. |
Abm
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Post Number: 1484
Registered: 04-2004
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Cynique,
Don't worry 'bout that. Jus' let'em in. We'll make up for what we lose at the gate on the sale of watered-down drinks. |
Carey
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 05-2004
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That's it! "Wait a minute sucka"........ Slow your roll joe, get back behind the rope.
Hold up, there's a fight over by the restrooms. Damn it, it's A_womon and that white chick. Look at that, she done pulled the poor women's clothes off. Oh no, she's reaching in her purse......what is she going to do now. Damn, look at the size of that thang, Cynique, go over there and get between them.......hurry. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1485
Registered: 04-2004
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Carey,
You gottah know where yo dough is coming from in the hospitality biznaz. And the money's in the (diluted) firewater. So let sommah doze desperados in. 'Sides. They'll be tryin so hard to impress the hooties, that they'll spend boko duckets on assorted bar drinks and trinkets.
I don't know 'bout chu. But uhmah let those warring Ebony-n-Ivory squirrels work their nut off. Cuz they sure have been having sumkinda jones 4 each other from the giddy-up. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 1457
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I ain't in it! Besides, by the time I get through pullin out all of my earrings and studs, a-woman and Moonsigns will be - exchanging phone numbers.
heh-heh. |
Abm
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Post Number: 1492
Registered: 04-2004
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Cynique,
Indeed. All that ("White") hot passion that A_womon’s got for Moonsigns and vicer-versa’s got the makings of a "k.d. lang and Me’shell Ndegéocello" thang written ALL OVER IT to me. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 1459
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Brace yourself for a-womon's reply. |
Bleekindigo
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Post Number: 123
Registered: 06-2004
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ABM! YOU FIXNA' GIT IT NOW!! |
Abm
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Post Number: 1498
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Cynique,
I can't wait!
And either way I win.
Because he only thing that get's my juices going more than a ragin' young chick who's out to prove to me that she's NOT an L-word co-star...is one who's out to prove she IS. |
A_womon
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Post Number: 829
Registered: 05-2004
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If I gave a F*CK WHAT either one of yall white lesbian chick lovers thought, I might get mad. As it is I can barely stifle a BIG YAAAAAAAAAAAAWN!
BUT here's an idea for you why don't you two stop alla ya fantasizin about all things white in general And that lame azz white broad moonsigns in partcular and the two of you can call her up, get her over to YOUR crib and make yaselves into one BIG OREO COOKIE AND THEN you all can knock yaself out eatin it! NOW HOW BOUT THAT?
Carey Im gone gi YOU the benefit of the doubt that you weren't saying what ABM and Cynique made the ish out to be. Please let me know if I'm wrong. |
Bleekindigo
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 06-2004
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A-WOMAN!!!!!
make yaselves into one BIG OREO COOKIE AND THEN you all can knock yaself out eatin it!
ha ha ha ha!!! YOU ARE TOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!
BLEEK- |
Carey
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Post Number: 265
Registered: 05-2004
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A_Womon, don't for one second think that that's what I was talking about. You know what they are into and you've told them so. |
Miss_wysteria
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Username: Miss_wysteria
Post Number: 260
Registered: 09-2004
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A_Womon
you should send me a note...detailing more about that novel "BLOOD" Or something that you're writing.
The premise is one close to my heart, but.....CAN YOU REALLY WRITE?
I'm interested to know. Because I'll soon be scouting new books for Door of Kush Fall 2005 lineup. This time I get to pick 3 titles and I always try to choose at least ONE by someone who needs a break.
Get my email from ABM and send me a structural outline.
CAREY....
I sent your book by media mail, so it will take a few weeks to arrive. I simply can't afford to send that big ass hardback 3 day mail for any and everyone who wants a FREE copy.
You'll get it in due time.
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A_womon
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Post Number: 830
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MS Wys,
Thank you for your kind offer, but I have an agent and am still dealing with the same people that I was when I hit the board. But thank you much anyway for thinking about me. |
Abm
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Post Number: 1505
Registered: 04-2004
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Foks,
Sorry yawl. But deeze young foks talk so crazy, I feel you gottah sometimes breakdown what dey say piece-by-piece to have any shot at understanding what dey trynah say.
Maybe yawl can help me to figure dis out.
A_womon says: "If I gave a F*CK WHAT either one of yall white lesbian chick lovers thought..."
ABM says: Okay. I’m confuse. Am I a "white lesbian chick"?
A_womon says: "I might get mad"
ABM says: You mean "angry". Right. Cuz I think you’ve been struggling with the "mad" thing for sometime now.
A_womon says: "As it is I can barely stifle a BIG YAAAAAAAAAAAAWN!"
ABM says: And yet though bored, you simpy HAAAAAAAAD to respond.
A_womon says: "BUT here's an idea ..."
ABM says: Really? You’ve got one of them? Who gave you dat? Yukio?
A_womon says: "for you why don't you two stop alla ya fantasizin about all things white in general"
ABM says: But I can’t help myself. "They’re so well spoken."
A_womon says: "that lame azz white broad moonsigns in partcular"
ABM says: It’s funny how when lesbians fight they call each other nasty names like everybody else?
A_womon says: "two of you can call her up, get her over to YOUR crib"
ABM says: Will do as soon as you give us that info you keep in your hopechest.
A_womon says: "and make yaselves into one BIG OREO COOKIE"
ABM says: Oooooo! Can we tossin another White chick and make the double-stuff kind? And maybe even add Miss_wysteria...for the milk? YUMMY!
A_womon says: "NOW HOW BOUT THAT?"
ABM says: How about what? Ops! Sorry, I got distracted thinking about dunking Moonsigns and the other White chick’s double-stuff in Miss_wysteria's milk.
A_womon says: "Carey Im gone gi YOU the benefit of the doubt"
ABM says: Uh Oh, Chief. Sounds like a set-up to me.
A_womon says: "that you weren't saying what ABM and Cynique made the ish out to be"
ABM says: See. I knowdit. The ol' Divide-n-conquer trick.
A_womon says: "Please let me know if I'm wrong."
ABM says: You mean other than about EVERYTHING else you said above? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1506
Registered: 04-2004
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Miss_wysteria,
Hey! I've got a great idea for a book. Why not publish a book on my interpretations and responses to A_womon's prior comments. You can call it "One Sane Man's View of Chaos".
I'll bet it tops the New York Times best seller list inside of a week. |
Abm
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Post Number: 1507
Registered: 04-2004
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...and you and A_womon can pose topless on the book cover jacket. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 831
Registered: 05-2004
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ABM,
STuff ya list and everything else up both the lesbian white chicks in ya fantasy world all the way uup and continue ya white fantasies all you like!
Just quit conjuring me up in the meanwhile, cuz I aint interested in A: ya dumb bullsh*t
and B: Ya white lesbian chick FANATACISM!
Please the next time you think of me---please dont! |
Moonsigns
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Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 264
Registered: 07-2004
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Abm,
You are so dirty. Yucky.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1510
Registered: 04-2004
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("Dang! Well. Time to scratch A_womon from off my 'lesbians I'd like to do' list. Next up… Rashena!") |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1463
Registered: 01-2004
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Nobody could ever accuse a-woman of having a sense of humor or of being able to take a joke, could they? Loosen up, girlfriend. It was all in fun. (You know, you have let us know that you are light-skinned, and you sure come across as one of those people who bends over backwards just to prove hoooow "black" they are. You are cetainly a candidate for the "blacker than thou" club.) |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1511
Registered: 04-2004
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A_womon/Moonsigns,
"You turn down love like it’s really bad
You can’t give what you never had
Well bless your soul, you can fool a few
But, I know the truth and so do you"
From EWF’s "You Can’t Hide Love" (produced/arranged by Charles Stepney!) |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 832
Registered: 05-2004
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Cyn and ABM are red
And Vile yes it's true
They come up wit some stale azz ISH
that smell worse than POO POO!!
NOW THAT'S THE TRUTH!! NOW WHAT? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1512
Registered: 04-2004
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Cynique,
You may have a point about that A_womon trynah prove she's black-n-she-proud.
BTW: Young foks don't have any humor these days. They've got guns. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 833
Registered: 05-2004
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and if you think puttin me in any arena with moonsigns and calling it a joke is funny, then you both need to sit down with some Eddie Murphy CDS and learn what funny is! Cuz yall sho NUFF aint! Dig THAT! |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1513
Registered: 04-2004
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Isn't it funny how A_womon often says "NOW WHAT?" at the end of one of her (hostile) exclamations? I feel as though I back in the school yard and some other kids trynah challenge me to step to'em or something. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 834
Registered: 05-2004
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I would rather be black and proud than black, apologetic and falling down and kissing white foks azzes when they step up in someplace, just cuz they are white...without even checking the DUMB FOUL STUPID ISH THEY SAY!
anD I didn't see you trying to hide YOUR complexion either CYNIQUE so why you tryin to call me out??? Don't get jealous cause you aint the only one! HAH! |
A_womon
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Post Number: 835
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 05:25 pm: |
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HAH! |
Abm
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Post Number: 1515
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A_womon,
Honestly. I want get ill withchu. But you are just to adorable for me too muster up any real anger towards you. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 836
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 05:42 pm: |
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I can't tell |
A_womon
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Post Number: 837
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and for the record Cynique, I said that you aint the only light skinned chick on this board, I aint said nothin about me, so think what you like! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1466
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 05:46 pm: |
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Somebody else "outed" me about my skin-color, a-womon. (And I have accepted my "house nigga" status on Thumper's Corner.) But, your statement that I am "jealous" of you because you have light skin, too, reveals something. It sounds like you subconsciously put a premium on light skin, regarding it as something to be jealous of. |
A_womon
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Post Number: 839
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 05:55 pm: |
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ahhhhhhhhh shaddupppppppppp cynique, you are too obvious at your attempts to bait me my dad didn't raise no dummy! I aint bitin! |
Miss_wysteria
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Username: Miss_wysteria
Post Number: 268
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 06:01 pm: |
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Actually.....CYNIQUE..
You outed YOURSELF in your tepid review of "The Blacker the Berry" by Wallace Thurman....and you spoke about your COLOR, quite braggingly, when you and the former poster "LOOK-E-LOO" both talked about the fact that you're "poor lightskinned redbones" who were treated MEANLY for it.......by the real black girls.
I could give a shit what color you are.
The ISSUES relating to "lightskinned women and White Supremacy" are actual and factual...and I WOULD HOPE that if I were lightskinned like Toni Morrison, Gayl Jones and Bell Hooks....that I would be able to write about that reality as honestly and with as much LOVE and RESPECT for black people as those yellow skinned TRUE BLACK WOMEN have done, God bless them.
Otherwise, why be "lite-brite" and call yourself "Black" when you're really just a superior Blue Vein who appreciates, supports and protects the STATUS that White Supremacy fuels such a tedious reality with?
It's not your color that makes anything wrong with you, Cynique. It's the fact that you're a NIGGER plain and simple.
And that's exactly what you are.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1467
Registered: 01-2004
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I glad you aint biting, because from what I have observed, you have sharp teeth. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 1468
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 06:08 pm: |
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When I need some toilet paper, you can roll out, Kola. But, yeah, I am a nigger. Now what you gonna do about it? Maybe admit what it is that you are? Or are you still in denial about being a candidate for the psychiatrist couch? |
Miss_wysteria
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Post Number: 269
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 06:15 pm: |
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Don't be mad at ME, Cynique...you're the one who said that you were a nigger. Don't you remember?
I'm just repeating what MAMA said.
Mother dear.
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Cynique
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Post Number: 1469
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 08:07 pm: |
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Dis Nigga aint mad atcha. I realize your Prozac has apparently run out. And, Lord, I hope you don't find out where Thomas hid your booze. Talk about a loose cannon! |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 266
Registered: 05-2004
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Let's see, where do I start...huuummmm. Should I address the FREE or should I talk to....ahhh. F it, am going to bed. I'd better count my pennys first so I can maybe get me something to eat tomorrow. Woo is me......I's hurtin'! |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 267
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 09:31 pm: |
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But then again......
I don't understand y'all always jumping down on A_womon. She's trying to hold down this block before it turns into one of those mixed bars that all the no mustache wearing negros hang at so they can pick up white girls. Y'all something else frontin' that women. That ain't the way the game goes. Now if one of y'all dropped into a white spot, do you think one of those would step up to one of theres in support of YOU. Please, somebody needs to take a check and look at what they doin'. This is mad.. ...totally disrespectful.
I know about all that dumb shit like "what do we want to be seen as" . That's well and fine but I think in this instance a seat in the back would have been just fine. I ain't saying you have to support what she's saying but you don't front the sister in her own hoouse. Some of y'all TALK about being from the hood but damn, something ain't right. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 268
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 09:35 pm: |
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Hello
Any of y'all watch the God Father movies. Well, how did micheal say the trader was going to tip his hand? Think about it and then watch the board. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1470
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 11:36 pm: |
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Ain't nobody holding a-womon down, Carey. When I said by the time I could break up the "fight" that YOU introduced into the scenario, and mentioned that a-womon and Moonsigns would be exchanging phone numbers, I was visualizing in my wildest imagination that they'd see past their differences. Personally, I like the idea of diversity on the board. I wish some Asians and some Hispanics and even some gay people would add to the mix. That's what makes things provocative. But you and others apparently think we should all be huddled here together, laughing and scratching, nodding our heads, reinforcing each others ideas about "them." I endure the slings and arrows about who I am and who I like, and ain't nobody taking it easy on me. Or do I expect them to. Dis ain't no bed of roses. Dis is life. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1517
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 11:45 pm: |
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A_womon/Carey,
I'ze sho iz a mite sorry. Ju waz rite n I'ze waz rong. Puuleeze foegive me n lemme be Blak ahgin.
If ju do dat, I promiss tah be jus'az meen tuh dah White guh az yu r.
N if ju hol' hur down, I'll kic hur. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1518
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 11:49 pm: |
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Carey,
The BEST of the many profound lessons taught in the epic Godfather's movies was Michael Corleone quoting his father Vito's sage "Keep your friends close and your enemies CLOSER." |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 849
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 12:34 am: |
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Cynique, ABM
It does my heart good to see you and Cynique unite and form such a bond of solidarity around defending moonsigns rights on the aalbc. Tell ya what, why don't you two keep on defending her and I'll keep on puttin my size seven's in her moons! (now spin that any way you like cause it don't cost me NOtHIN!) |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 850
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 12:49 am: |
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Well since you think AALBC ain multi-culturally diversified enough or it's too black for you then why don't you start your OWN multi cultural board as you have suggested others do and call it Cynique's Rainbow Board-alition?? Or Cynique's Rainbow corner?
How quickly people forget that the thing that necessitated a board like this being formed in the FIRST PLACE, was until recently, THERE WERE NO FORUMS for BLACK people to come together and discuss BLACK BOOKs or any other black issues. But you could find PLENTY of white only sites, though they didn't say it it was and IS imperitive in some sites cuz you can look until doomsday and you wont find a black book or anything black NOWHERE!!
Now that we finally have a place that is ABOUT all things AA, SOME of you want to start apologizing and trying to Change what the purpose of the board is! LIKE only white people have the right to have places, magazines, movies, books, stories, clothing, models, tv shows and anydamnthang else they want geared solely toward them!!!
It makes me sick. DO Black people have a right to claim anything? And then SOME of us get all nervous and apologetic when some white person accuses us of being racist. GO to any store and look at what kind of makeup they have on the shelves, how many white only magazines there are, how many white only everythings there STILL are, and you won't see ANY of them apologizing for having it like that. Cause white people have had it their way for so long, that they are conditioned not to see how white the world is.
But they can sure spot something all black right away and try to tear it down, and SOME of you are right there with a steel pole helping them tear out all the boards!!
Its sickening!! |
Abm
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Post Number: 1522
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 12:59 am: |
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A_womon says: "It does my heart good to see you and Cynique unite and form such a bond of solidarity around defending moonsigns rights on the aalbc."
ABM says: Aw! Taint nothin'. You should see me and Cynique making-out in the back of her pop's ol' Buick.
A_womon says: "Tell ya what,"
ABM says: Hold on to your hats, foks. She's about to cut lose...AGAIN.
A_womon says: "why don't you two keep on defending her"
ABM says: We will if you continue 'offending her'.
A_womon says: "I'll keep on puttin my size seven's in her moons!"
ABM says: Oh. H*ll no! No you don't try to lie 'bout doze size 10's of yours.
A_womon says: "(now spin that any way you like"
ABM says: I usually like to deal it slow and deep...with a capricious 'twist'.
A_womon says: " cause it don't cost me NOtHIN!)
ABM says: Except, perhaps, a calm and rational mind. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 854
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 01:09 am: |
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ABM says: Except, perhaps, a calm and rational mind
a_woman says:If hating moonsigns makes me irrational, OH f*cking WELL. At the end of the day IT IS WHAT IT IS!
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Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 271
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 07:25 am: |
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Cynique, it's not unusual for you to misquote and TRY to shift the focus. No one said we didn't want others to visit. That shift focus thang is played, it works only in the issuer's mind. You know who's quick to uses that tactic.
If only Rodney King would have stayed still.
This is not the forum to talk race with individuals of a different blend.
Shifted = We don't want white people to visit and talk about books without mentioning there race.
Some people are quick to look at us through the eyes of white folks and get overly apologetic and worried that "we will be seen in a bad light".
Shifted = ............
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1474
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 08:50 am: |
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Carey, how can I misquote you when I didn't quote you at all? We disagree on this subject. How's that for a staying on point? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1475
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 08:54 am: |
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This is Thumper's Corner, a-womon, and I'm willing to go along with his program. So just go on and on and on expressing your frustration. I said what I had to say and if you got a problem with it, that's your problem. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 273
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 09:51 am: |
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Yeah, that's der is cool. That's staying on point. However and again, I didn't say you misquoted me, see what am talking about. Now I don't expect you to simply say, "yeah, I see", that would be too.....too the point. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1526
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 10:36 am: |
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Carey,
I think you had something important/relevant to say in your "07:25 am" post. But for some (crazy) reason, I didn't quite follow what you mean. I suppose I could not follow which POV you were asserting from one sentence to the next (Or may I need my morning cup of Java too, Cynique. ).
If you don't mind, would you please distill the essence of "07:25 am" in another 2 - 3 sentence post.
If you would oblige, I would be thankful.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1478
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:05 am: |
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Carey is doing a little extrapolating himself by injecting the word "misquote" into the equation. I never misquoted anybody. I would agree with Abm that this is more about point of view. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 274
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 03:09 pm: |
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ahhhh......aahhhhh. Now y'all workin me. I think those that can't feel it must be the one because it's right down front. I don't know how to explain it any better. It's true that a few of my thoughts are run together but if it was a snake it would bite ya. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 275
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 03:11 pm: |
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"Extrapoliting" ....was I doing that, damn, I better run and find out what that is. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1482
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 04:49 pm: |
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Maybe you'd have made your point better, Carey, if youi had used the word "misinterpret" instead of "misquote". Me, along with a whole lot of other people are guilty of misinterpreting what people write on this board. But I rarely quote anybody unless their famous. |
A_womon
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Post Number: 858
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 05:25 pm: |
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That's not true, because whenever you use part of a person's post and then comment on it you are in effect quoting the person. something you and everyone else does quite often! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1484
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 05:39 pm: |
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Well, we gotta semantic bind here. Show me in this thread where I cut and pasted a direct quote of something someone said and braced it in quotation marks. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 276
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 01:54 am: |
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I would have only used the word "misinterpret" if I thought the person actually did that. Now since I believe your spin is a conscience effort to move the focus or shadow the issue, my statement stands.
Your post just proved my point. I didn't use the words "direct quote", you did. There is a difference. See, the old shift-a-rue strikes again. |
Lambd
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Post Number: 583
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 10:17 am: |
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Yawwwwwwwn! Okay, what did I miss? |
Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 584
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 10:21 am: |
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Here's a direct quote for dat azz:
"Tell ya what, why don't you two keep on defending her and I'll keep on puttin my size seven's in her moons!"
Priceless!........If she IZ famous, nobody told me. She don't have to be famous for me to quote her. That was some good shytt! Abm knows it was good, too...."Size sevens in her moons"...LOL! You know that shytt was funny! |
Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 585
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 10:24 am: |
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That OREO cookie thing that Awoman said, too! Give her props, Abe!
"She may be young, but she readayyyy!"
Wasn't that Keith Sweat? |
Lambd
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Username: Lambd
Post Number: 586
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 10:36 am: |
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Cynique, I heard this white dude on the radio today named Jamie Cullen (I think). An up and coming Jazz cat. He's pretty good. You should check him out. I know you are into Jazz and we had a conversation about the white up and comers. Here's one that will definitely be able to hold his head up in the Jazz community. I still say crackers are few and far between when it comes to actually quality of art. But what the fu*& do I know, right? This cat is pretty good though. I'm picking up his CD today. If you got any smooches left send me one. BL! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1485
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 12:23 pm: |
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This is my final word on this subject, Carey, because we will never agree. If somebody alters a phrase of yours that was not a direct quote, then they have "misinterpreted" your intent. Now you can interpret this any way you choose. And I maintain that you are also guilty of putting your spin on things. BTW, you never gave an example of how I "misquoted" you. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1486
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 12:28 pm: |
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Hi Lambd. Where you been, baby? How open-minded of you to give a white jazz artist his props. I like that in ya. Smooches. |
Jojorules
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 10-2004
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damn lambd! you the man!
you have the same taste in music i do.
where do you live?
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Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 278
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 05:57 pm: |
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Look Cyn-cyn, am not going to go thru all that, I said you said and that I what I said he said who said. Nope, that's dead, that's the way some like it. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 1500
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 11:34 pm: |
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We still cool, Carey. Just a little difference of opinion. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 281
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 08:26 am: |
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Yep, just one of those difference of opinion thang.. |
Lambd
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Post Number: 589
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 12:14 pm: |
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That is so true, JoJO! I AM the man! |
Lambd
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Post Number: 590
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 12:18 pm: |
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I live in the suburbs of DC. That's right! Da Crib! Dodge City! Chocolate City! Best damn city in the world!....Except for the fact that we have no representation in Congress, more potholes in the city streets than any other major city in the country, some of the most dangerous ghettos, and the mayor is one peanut-headed, bowtie sportin', corporate butt kissin', funny lookin' dude, I just love it here. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 07-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 04:38 pm: |
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***licking my lips*****
that's right, LAMBD. You really....ARE....the man.
Have you seen my new BOOK TOUR PHOTO PAGE yet?
I almost put your picture up, daddy.
And sad news to report....
I had to cancel my appearance at UMD in Nov. because I'm just too depressed about Thomas and I separating. The boys didn't take it too well when I left this last time.
In fact, they really revolted. They're used to having me every hour of every day and at 5 and 7---who can blame them? Their father only comes on weekends now, so they need time to adjust and to be made secure again.
So I won't be in D.C. this winter.
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