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Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 599
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 11:22 am: | 
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http://www.afrofuturism.net/
Is the above site any help? Is there such a thing as afrofuturism? Is futurism "colorblind"?
What are George Clinton, Sun Ra, Basquiat? |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1246
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 11:43 am: |
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I couldn't pull anything up at this site but a big butterfly. Anyway, last time I saw George Clinton at a Prince concert he was still decked out in his characteristic garb. I recently saw the movie "Basquiat" with Jeffrey Wright, the black guy who won an Emmy and a Golden Globe for his role in "Angels in America". All I can say is that Basquiat was certainly a tragic figure. What a short, wasted life. |
Bleekindigo
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Username: Bleekindigo
Post Number: 80
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 12:26 pm: |
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Cynique I agree and wasn't Jeffrey Wright a marvel.
He is by far one of the most underrated actors. He's played Martin Luther King JR. (Boycott), the Puerto Rican-Peoples Hernandez--adversary to Samuel Jackson's Shaft, Basquiat, Lincoln in Park's play Top Dog Underdog, Howard Bingham in Ali and most recently Al in the Manchurian Candidate. Always a joy to watch.
And,I agree, Basquiat was indeed a most tragic figure. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 601
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 12:39 pm: |
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Cynique:
Put your mouse on the eight dots at the bottom (four on the right, four on the left) and click to log on to the separate topics. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1075
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 01:19 pm: |
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Did somebody say Jeffrey Wright? Dont' get me started!
Let me tell you, in a righteous world, foks would be mentioning Jeffrey Wright's name in the same light as that of the great-late Marlon Brando! |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 602
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 01:40 pm: |
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Abm:
You are being carried away. Brando was winning Oscars before Jeffery (born 1965) was--well--born. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 603
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 01:46 pm: |
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Abm:
You are being carried away. Brando was winning Oscars before Jeffery (born 1965) was--well--born. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1077
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 01:57 pm: |
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Chris,
Perhaps. And it is unlikely he'll get the opportunity to realize the full depth/breath of his talents in (White) Hollywood.
But I have watched/enjoyed MANY actors over the years. And I am telling you, man, this GUY just flat-out HAS IT!
I compare him to Brando because he does have a sort of daring and freedom in his performances that seem to transcend everything else that is going on around him.
In the 'few' roles I have seen Wright appear on the celluloid, TV and cable; he has conveyed a charisma and versatility like that which I have rarely witnessed.
Honestly, he's the kind of actor that makes me want to write screenplays just for the privleged of witnessing him bring one of my characters to life. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1078
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 02:05 pm: |
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Bleekindigo,
Pardon me. But I slightly disagree about Wright being "underrated". The truth has been spreading about Wright for a few years now. Maybe 'underutilized' and/or 'overlooked' are more apropos. But no one who has seen this brothah get down would DARE to "underrate" him. |
Bleekindigo
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Username: Bleekindigo
Post Number: 81
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 02:15 pm: |
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Abm, I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. Wrong choice of word. He has not been "underrated". "Underutilized" is more like it.
Bleek- |
Bleekindigo
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Username: Bleekindigo
Post Number: 82
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 02:24 pm: |
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Abm:
What do you think it is that keeps Wright "underutilized" and folks like Samuel Jackson (who I do love--but who is -i think quite the "overrated" one)ever-present on the big screen?
Bleek- |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 604
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 03:04 pm: |
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Bleek:
I think it's mostly that Jackson has a headstart on him in the game--has paid more dues--and is considered for a wider range of roles, since he is older, taller, etc.
I think we ought to face it--black actors will not be considered for roles taken by the Tom Cruises, the Jude Laws, the Brad Pitts, the Matt Damons or Ben Aflecks, the Cavaziels, the (who was dat dude who played the Hulk)
They might get some of the Tom Hanks roles. Maybe some Jack Nicholson or James Woods. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1079
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 03:38 pm: |
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Bleek,
Well, although our favorite local White girl Moonsigns might argue otherwise, Wright's race STILL is very much an issue about his casting. I also suspect that Wright is being careful in his casting selections. I doubt that he will take any ol' thang just to pay the bills.
And Samuel L. Jackson has ascended to that rarely position of being the kewl Black guy all producers like to have in their movies. Because even though Jackson has (or at least demonstrates) a limited acting range, his mere presence reeks of credibility. He always seems REAL, thus he can 'ground' a film in a way that most (especially White) phony-baloneys in Hollywood can not.
And, until just recently, SLJ seems hellbent on collecting a piece of every film released by every mainline (and even a few independent) Hollywood producers.
I also concur with Chris that SLJ has been in the game a little while longer than Wright. His associations probably are as such that when film makers start casting movies, his agent's number is high atop their speed dial listing.
Chris,
Actually, I think Will Smith enjoys an esteem similar to those of those White dudes (though I think he's still looking for a juicy seck scene). And remember, a few years back he was casted as James West (made famous by uber macho Star Robert Conrad) in TV's the Wild Wild West. Actually, I think Will's film over the last 7 - 8 years have made MORE money than ANY of those dudes.
I have this recurring fantasy:
One day, some Hollywood producer is going to get REALLY brave and cast a Black person in a role previously made for an imagined or real White person. For instance, someone is going to cast Morgan Freeman as George Washington. And and he's going to flat-out nail that role, perhaps even win an Oscar. And White guys/gals all throughout Hollywood are going to say f@#$!...and start p@$$ing their pants. |
Bleekindigo
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Username: Bleekindigo
Post Number: 83
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 04:10 pm: |
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Abm, you are right about Will. He was actually the first choice for Neo in the Matrix. He turned it down because he said it seemed very uninteresting. In retrospect, he said, only if he'd known!
Bleek- |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1249
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 04:16 pm: |
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Hi Bleek, now that you mention it, that was Jeffrey who played in that Martin Luther King movie, wasn't it? And I swear, after watching him in "Angels in America," I thought he had to really be gay because he had that demeanor down so pat. It was only when he thanked his wife after receiving one of his awards that I knew different. I agree Samuel Jackson is kind of grating. And how about Morgan Freeman playing God in Bruce Almighty. LOL BTW, Marlon Brando won his first Oscar for "On the Waterfront" in the early '50s. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1082
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 04:21 pm: |
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Bleek,
Right. In fact, it was the "West" role he took in the place of "Neo". Boy! Talking about career glitches, huh? It says A LOT about him that he continued to thrive in spite of making THAT kind of blunder.
Although, you think had Will portrayed Neo would the actress who played Trinity have been White? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1083
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 04:23 pm: |
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Cynique,
HAHA!
Well, although Bruce Almighty was a silly movie, Morgan did kinda seem 'divine'. His voice definitely sounds like you might imagine GOD's might sound. |
A_womon
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: A_womon
Post Number: 687
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 04:30 pm: |
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Hey ChrisH,
I have a few questions about publishing contracts. If they are too personal, or you just don't want to answer, that is ok, just thought you might know a lil sompin sompin about it now that you are out there 
Now that you are getting published, did you sign a "work for hire" contract or some other type? Do you now have an agent or are you still "free lance"? Do you get to create the perameters in a contractural agreement with your agent? For example,can you hire an agent just for one project only? |
Bleekindigo
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Username: Bleekindigo
Post Number: 84
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 04:59 pm: |
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Speaking of Morgan Freeman as God in Bruce Almighty. When it hit theaters, a white co-worker of mine saw it. She came back to work the next day and raved unto the joy fantastic about it! She said it was hilarious and then added-
"Not for nothin' but they took it a little far making Morgan Freeman God."
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1091
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 05:05 pm: |
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Bleek,
I hear you. And hey, even now, Whites are still making Jesus Christ White. See producer Mel Gibson's recent "The Passion of [a White fantasy of] the Christ" for an example.
White Supremacy is monkey that's hard for those foks to shake. |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 688
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 05:13 pm: |
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AMEN! |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 1094
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 05:16 pm: |
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WOW!
Kudos from A_womon!
Man! Maybe if I work REAL hard I'll regain my Proud Black Man status. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 605
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 05:18 pm: |
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A-Woman:
Nope. My contract is not work for hire. I might sign such a contract, but it would depend on the project (generally it is standard if you are going to write about a character that already belongs to somebody else, say Spider-man. It was a standard industry contract.
I don't have an agent. I need to look it up, but I think one could be freelance and have an agent, freelance writer meaning one who is not working under an employment contract for some publisher.
As to whether you can hire an agent for one project only, I guess if an agent allowed you to do that you could. Understand that a contract with an agent also provides for termination, usually for cause, but often only upon providing certain notice.
Maybe someone who has an agent could answer this for her.
Abm:
They ain't had Will Smith in there lovin' on Jennifer Lopez, Cameron Diaz, Charlize Theron, etc etc etc.
I'll bet they did not even think of having Will or any other black actor to play the Dicaprio role in "Titanic"
What I mean is they don't hire black actors for those leading men romantic roles. For one, it seems that such stories featuring all black characters pull as much as the white ones do, and they don't want them black men loving on no white women.
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A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 689
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 06:05 pm: |
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Thanks Chris! |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1099
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 10:36 pm: |
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Chris,
I agree. Will's characters appear to get everything...but 'laid' in his movies. But maybe, out of respect to his wife Jada (who looks like she's kick his tail he's gets out of line), he has intentionally avoided getting too 'cozy' with his female co-stars. |
Soulofaauthor
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Username: Soulofaauthor
Post Number: 92
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 12:30 am: |
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ABM I agree with you on that I simply feel that will has to much respect for the beautiful jada to do those love sceens with his female co-stars.Jada to me to just be a beautiful soul and when you watch her talk about will her face just lights up.She loves the man and he just isnt willing to compromise that love for the actress hoochies that are out their.I love this couple but he's a man so who knows what he's up to. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1253
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 01:06 am: |
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When Julia Robinson played opposite Denzel Washington in "The Pelican Brief", she wanted their relationship to turn romantic, and he vetoed the idea saying something to the effect that, it would get him in trouble with white men and black women; especially his wife.
If Will Smith could ever shake his "goofy" image, he might set some thighs a-quiver. Even Jada once teased him on air by saying he made love like a girl. (I swear, that's what she said!) |
Soulofaauthor
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Username: Soulofaauthor
Post Number: 94
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 01:26 am: |
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Lmao Cynique I never heard this.The goofy image yes cause I still see him as the guy from parents just dont understand.Ya'll remember that video don't you? Denzel is the man.This brotha is just so talented.It's good to see even julia can't talk him into a love scene.Dis him and his wife ever get back together? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1254
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 01:47 am: |
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Hi soulofaauthor! Haven't had a chance to check in with ya. I been so busy fussing with everybody. You know me. LOL. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1101
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 04:52 am: |
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Soulofaauthor,
Yeah. It's pretty obvious Julia gots some pent-up juggle lovin' for Denzel somethin' kinda offal. Remember how giddy she was when she presented the Oscar to Denzel a few years ago? I thought she would French kiss'em right there on stage for a horrified White Middle America to see.
What did you mean by "Dis him and his wife ever get back together?" Denzel and the Missus on the splits?
Cynique,
I should think Will's making-out like a chick would in some instances be considered a high compliment. After all, who know more about what a woman wants...than a woman? |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 693
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:20 am: |
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Yeah abm, you are right about will cuz when I read the article what she said seemed like more of a compliment cause she went on to describe how sensual and fulfilling their lovemaking is and that he cared about her...needs! |
Soulofaauthor
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Username: Soulofaauthor
Post Number: 97
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:58 am: |
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Hey Cynique yeah I see you have been pretty busy I have missed you.Abm yes they had broke up but I noticed on the bet awards he kept sayying something about her to monique so they might be back together.Or maybe he just didnt like the way monique kept hitting on him. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 1255
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 11:50 am: |
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Just for the record, I meant to say Julia "Roberts", not Julia "Robinson." Surprised no one corrected me. BTW, I didn't read about Jada saying Will makes love like a girl, I saw her say it in an interview and she kinda turned up her nose when she mentioned it. Guess she thought better of it later, and did some damage control. And as for me, I'd prefer a partner to make assertive love like a man not "sensitive" love like a girl. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1115
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 12:32 pm: |
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A_womon,
Yeah. Of course, the smart@$$ in me is inclined to very Jada’s comments to be indications of one or more of the following...
...Will’s a better ‘actor’ than he has thus far let’on,...
...a not-altogether subtle hint about Jada possibly harboring some L-word inclinations...
...or even that Big Willie can be a bit of a ‘girl-lee man’.
But hey. Whatever they’ve gottah do to make their marriage work is a-okey-dokey with me.
Soulofaauthor,
INTERESTING!
Well, I don’t make it a point to keep track of Denzel marital troubles. Still, I am surprise that I had heard/read nothing of about that. I shoulda thought there would have been daily news reports of all the ravenous hoochies storming the gates of his estate.
Cynique,
I think we could all determine from the context of the prior post whatchu meant. Because unlike you, the rest of us need not nitpick over the fine diction/etymological distinctions between, say, a "clique" and "cliche" (You know I still OWE you for THAT one. Don't you? Hehe!).
Yeah. Lambd told me you like it RUFF. (ARF! ARF! ARF!) |
Miss_wysteria
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Username: Miss_wysteria
Post Number: 35
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 12:41 pm: |
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Denzel and his wife are not broken up and never have been.
That's just a rumor that someone started on the internet.
Believe me---if DENZEL was to part with his wife---the media would make that Page One news, because his marriage is the eye of the hurricane of what he's built his career and his entire image on.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 1117
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 12:51 pm: |
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Miss_wysteria,
I am inclined to agree with you. I can't believe Black America's favorite honey-pie-man could be on the market and it not be front page news on Ebony, Jet, People, US, New York Times, LA Times...hell...even the Wall Street Journal! |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 695
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 01:25 pm: |
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Whatever cynique,
That's why WILL and JADA are together and you are with whoever youre with, evidently Whatever he's doing HOWEVER he's doing it he's MAKING her happy since they been together for 7+plus years and they BOTH seem quite happy and Filthy RICH! |
Soulofaauthor
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Username: Soulofaauthor
Post Number: 99
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:05 pm: |
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Now If I am not mistaken on that bit of gossip I did hear about this on either tv or a magazine and not the star ya'll Leatha does not read those kinds of book I consider them garbage.Although I have good friend who swears by them.Man has she told me some stories out of them.But nonetheless ya'll belive what you want it's not like any of us truly knows these people personal business.Or let me rephrase that it's not like Leatha know's these people personal business. |
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