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Lambd
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 09:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, Gang. Its been a wild ride. Love all of you good people, but alas, I must go. I may continue to read in the future when I start missing some of the weirded out comments, but I probably will not post. All of you are great people, but some are too good for my tastes. Censorship is never a good thing, even though sometimes it is needed. Try to digest that! What I'm trying to say is, people should always be able to say what the mean and how they feel. However, the element of offending another, sometimes undeserving party, has to be taken into consideration. I try really hard to monitor myself, and to police myself, but I tend to be vicious at times. My idea of interjecting humor in alot of situations comes off entirely too harsh. The best way to fix this problem is to do like A_woman said and to "Awwwwshaddddupppp!" And so my friends, I will bid you 'Adieu'. Shout out to my partner in grime_________Abm>>>Hold it down in here.

_____Cynique>>>>>>>All good things must come to an end. And I gots to get out before Thumpdaddy gets back and kick me out. Better roll while you can. I know I got it coming and being the coward that I am, I think I'll dodge this bullet. I'll be in touch...literally. Hehehe! Once an Abm protege, always a protege, I guess.

_____Carey>>>>>>>>You da real deal, bro. Keep being everybody daddy. You good at it, and they need it in here. You bring a touch of class and dignity to the site.

________A_woman>>>> If you listening and you got the wordy azz Yukio with you....HOLLA BACK, YOUNGUN! I vote you "Most likely to git dun up in this mickey flick"

_______Moonie>>>>>>Continue howling at the moon, gurl! I refuse to call you woman, cuz we already got Awoman up in hurr! (Did you see what I did there? That's called a play on words. Black folks got a lock on that type a stuff that y'all won't neva be able to touch) Anyway, you been swell... really neat-o. Nice to have met you. If you wasn't all into the brotha you got whupped already, I'd a showed you a thing or two about myths...Hehehe! (Dang! That Abm influence is a motha, aint it?)

Thumpdaddy, Troy and Chris>>>Great Cats...intellectual types....Don't ban me from the poetry spot. Don't make me have to drop a couple of goodies on your competitors, now! I'm gonna continue writing some way out poems. I just aint comin' up in here no more---PEACE!

Ra-Ra---Wanna get to know you, betta! Just in case you not entirely like Abm think you are, I may wanna get a shot at the title...

Cynique....I really do love you, babe...but I'm out of the Culture, Race, and Economy game, and I read alot of books but the convo's on the other joint can get lengthy and my A.D.D. be kickin' in and...wait a minute, what were we talkin' about?

I'll be seeing your favorite gal on the 28th. She'll be up this way signing books and talking about her latest. I'll give her your love and let you know how it went.

Salaam.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 10:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Damn! You too? Is this voluntary?
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Cynique
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 12:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Come on, Lambd, baby, it ain't that serious. You've allowed to happen to you what happens to a lot of us from time to time. We let this board frustrate and get the best of us. This cyber world becomes all to real to us and we take on a cyber identity that not only emboldens us, but often distorts us. Within the confines of posts, opinions are attacked, ideas defended, anger ignited, feelings hurt, indignations stirred, flirtation engaged in, seductions pursued, secrets revealed. But that's the beauty of it. At the end of the day we all go back to the real world, aware that for a brief period in time we have participated in something rather extraordinary. Sight unseen, strangers became acquaintances. Yes, we have all gotten carried away, but so damn what? As I said previously, your assets far outweigh your liabilities. You are not only very intelligent, but you have an incredible sense of humor and a remarkable way with words. You added a very special flavor to the board and it just won't be the same without you. So, don't kick us to the curb. OK, take a break, But come back soon. BTW, give ol Kola my "regards."
Love & kisses, C-Neek
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 12:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lambd

You are really "neat-o", too!(WTF?) Anywho, do as ABM told you, bundle up during the winter! And don't play in the snow too long, you might get frostbite! (and yes I'm rolling my eyes)

btw, DC men --my girlfriends and I have a joke about them, as we have all dated men from DC, one married a guy from DC. I won't go into detail, but they are truly different, trust that!

lastly, I think your womon was just flip'in out, so you are still 'lil lambd to me. However, if she wasn't and you truly think I'm a b*t*h, grow some bigger bal*s and defend what you like, no matter what!

Much respect!

-moonie/moongurl

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Carey
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 02:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ooooo we, nothing like hurling a few insults while walking out that door. Is that akin to telling your man that he never could do it. And that you never loved him anyway. Shame shame shame. But hey, alls fair in love and war.

Now since A_women is not here to defend herself, I'll say it for her, Who asked you anyway!

See, that's what happens we allow them to roam freely in our joint uncheck. They slide in holding flowers and wearing a mask (a plastic one), squezze what they can out of our culture, call it theirs and BAM, try.....TRY to kick us in the nuts. A_womon peeped their hold card long ago, it's an old movie, AND in black and white. Get it?......I knew you would. Bye

Carey
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Rashena
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 02:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Allllright....what the FAWK is going on up in here?!?!

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Carey
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 02:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But Lampd,

What's up man, the heat wasn't on you, S*&T. No one can stand up and say they are clean......NO ONE. But I know the feeling of thinking the finger is pointed at oneself. I've cringed a many days upon writing something and then later thinking that it wasn't a very good idea. Lets make no misstake about it, you have given many something to smile and laugh about. Yeah, you got a little funky sometimes but who hasn't. I don't know if I should take your holla out to me as a jab or what but hey, you've always done it with style.......nasty but with style :-). nevertheless I feel you when you say some of the lit threads can be long and hard to join in on. AND you have to read the books. That has always pissed me off *smile*. So young man, thanks for the raised hand but it isn't necessary because you can't raise your hand if we are all holding them. As I tell all that look at the door with that gazed look, turn away, look back and come back. Just jack-up your slacks (your a black man so I know you know how to do that) and get your nasty behind back in the game.

Check this out. All of us have at one time or another thought that our departing would be the end of this place. So we would bid our fairwell with all the clever prose that we could muster and then wait. Wait for the ground to fall beneath AALBC. And you know what? It's still here. It will always be here. It might hit a bump and slow to a crawl BUT it will crawl and some day raise again. It will stand up being supported by others with names like Teengurl, or Bookme, Ralph, Sistaman, Author1 and Darnell. Right now someone is making an AALBC postee. The board may limp along.....been there. But it will survive. If there are authors out there reading this and I'm sure they are, they can't wait for their next book to be on the lips of Thumper and his gang, old and new. So Lampchop, thanks for the compliment.....(I think) you don't have to go!

Sarge aka Ol'Grayhead aka Carey
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 03:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carey

Who asked me? --better yet, who told you I care what you think!

CAREY to A_womon 8/16/04:
"Come on A_womon, get in the car, let's ride. Forget that.....THAT."

MOONSIGNS:
Be careful, friends don't let friends drive drunk!



Futhermore, whatever dialouge that is between me and lambd is just that, nothing more, nothing less. If he wants a booty that is round and full like the pale moon, so be it. If he doesn't have the balls to stand the heat of some chicks hot breath down his back, he needs to grow bigger ones. Everybody needs to find their own booty and butt :-) out of other peoples business!


p.s. Please watch where you step in my garden, thanks!

p.p.s Bye!


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Carey
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 03:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And as I was saying.....wait a minute....oh it's just "that" on my screen....there it's gone, nothing lost, nothing found, oooooh well...... yawn.

I have to give it to them, they have some nerve to come on an AA site and talk about a black man's balls *LOL*.
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Carey
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 03:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And don't leave any of that p.p. behind, you may need it to catch a few flys.

Dang, I done gone and got caught-up.....dang, see, it can happen to us all :-).

But that's it....I'm done.
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Rashena
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 05:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, I've got my reading cut out for me...so much for drama-free! LOL!
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Yukio
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 05:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

it seems w/death also comes life. welcome, rashena.
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Carey
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 05:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OOOuuuuu Yukio, you're so......so...poetic.

I just thought I'd say something to you since I've berated everyone else.

Carey
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 06:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WELL Well well,

I knew miss energetic peace and blessing would show her true color if left to her own devices! As I said on another thread. I knew she would PROVE me Right about her bein just as fake as a white round moon!!!
Where is alla that "i got to guard my god given energy and God has blessed me to hold my peace and spread my white blessed energy and teach alla yall niggas the truth about bein black!! And the sad thing is SOME of yall actually believe that dumb BULLS*** she is spittin!!

Guess what Lambd I'm back. And go ahead and say something carey I know Im the only one who can check a lame azz wild duck up in here and that's JUST what im gonna stay around and do. NOW how bout that???!!!

Lambd, bring your lame copy cat azz on back, you KNOW you just tried to bring it like I did.

























































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Abm
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 06:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Uh Oh! Is that the aalbc's favorite(& only?) White chick snappin' off at Carey?

DAYUM!

Whatchu do, OG to incur the wrath of Her Paleness?


She even awoke A_womon from her self-imposed sabbatical.


But seriously though, don't you think we all are givin' Snow White WAAAAAY too much power?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 06:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hell no! I think SOME people around here are!!!
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Abm
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 06:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And who might THEY be, My Sweet Petite?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM now do you REALLY want that I should start namin names? ABM some of yall perpetuate that myth that when anything white step in any joint yall start bowin down and slobberin and hangin on every F###@%$ word like they tellin you somethin about your self that you couldn't possibly know or find out without their divine energy and guidance *puking my guts out!*

THEN SOME of you perpetuate that other myth that they just crook their little vowels and yall fallin all over yaself to get a little "piece" (hey just quotin off the board here) even in cyberspace... *puke*

I checked alla that ish out long ago, too bad SOME of yall don't get it!
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Abm
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've gottah hand it to Moonsigns. She may be White.

But her...

"If he doesn't have the balls to stand the heat of some chicks hot breath down his back, he needs to grow bigger ones. Everybody needs to find their own booty and butt out of other peoples business!...

...sure 'sound' like something a sistah might say.

Heck! I could almost see her do a sistahgurl neck/eyes roll while I read the words.


HAHA!
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

here's a kleenex to wipe the drool, ABM
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon (& All),

Here's the thing. It is a simple yet profound thing about who I am: I ain't skurrd of White people. Now, I know most of us will loudly blare out the same. But the true is we all often act like we are afraid.

But I have been blessed to learn (ad nauseum) just how 'mortal' Whites are. And that's because over the course of my life, my relationships with Whites have run the gammit.

I have had whites as bosses and lackeys, teachers and students, friends and nemesis, lovers and antagonists, partners and competitors, vendor and clients, etc. I have had a White guy cry in arms after learning his wife was screwing his neighbor. And I have tearfully kissed another White man who safely delivered by 30-week, 2 lbs baby into the world.

So I have long since gotten over much of the irrational hatred, fear and 'mythology' that both they and we have created/perpetuated about them.

Hey. If White chicks or dudes wants to hang here. I say kewl. It ain't gonna slow my roll one iota. I am going to continue to tell the truth about us and them as best I see. Moreover, and you should have noticed that by now, I am going to make fun of the similarities/contrasts between us. I utterly suggest that we all do the same.

Okay, the (horror-of-horrors!) "Moonsigns is White!" thing is BIG now. But hey, that will fade. And either she will settle into and enhance the illustrious tapestry that is Thumper's Corner...or she will, like a myriad other before her, fade away into the cybernetic eternity.

Because, either way, like Carey so eloquently explained, Thumper's Corner will survive. And it will because the concept of what this place is all about - freeflow of lively, informative, provocative discussion/info about AA books/culture - prevails over/above the designs/actions of any one or even a few individuals...even if said individuals just happen to be White. :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon,

Aw. Don't be that way, "Petite So Sweet You Even Good Enuff to Eat".
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And like I have said before That's ya bizness how you feel, you aint made it no secret, so what???

I aint you and I don't have to see things the way you do now do I? that's what makes us all unique. You do you, abm, cause Im definitely going to continue to do me.
YOU keep makin the point that it's about her bein white, And I keep sayin it's about what she's sayin as a white person.
Like I said, I will feel the way I feel about it and you feel the way you do about it.....and I'll keep speakin about it as I see fit? how bout that??

Now go try to find another way to boost ya girls ego, cuz it was NEVER about me running from her. But in your own skewed way of seeing things, I can tell that you STILL choose to see things that way.

Let me tell you the real ABM, so you can quit guessing...
I was more concerned about the manner in which I was making my point. Now yes, Im gonna be me and I aint lettin NO ONE change who I am. Now, we all know that certain things aint supposed to be allowed on AALBC, but so far, Im the ONLY one, well I take that back ME and Justwrite are the only ones who've had to pay up when it came time to collect the fines for unThumperlike behavior on this board. So that is always in the back of my mind while I'm posting. Now, I was moving into this grey area again and wasn't sure how close I was coming to the line of demarcation, so that's why THE ONLY REASON WHY I was taking a break.

Now is that plain enough for you, ABM, or do I have to restate this again?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon,

That's kewl. We've all gottah be what we be.

As long as there's no unnecessary antagonism between us, so be it.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon,

One more thing: I was never for your, Justwrite, Kola's or ANYONE else being 'suspended' from visiting this site. As "skewed" my way of thinking may be, I find the very notion of such to be intellectually and morally offensive. I have repeatedly expressed such. But what happened to you all were the product of decisions made by another. All I ask is you (& others) do not 'blame' myself and others for a decision that, to my knowledge, can only be made by 2 guys whose moniker's begin with the letter "T".

But I can better appreciate and understand how your experience effects what you think/do here.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon,

But can I ask you a question: Why do you come to THIS site? I do not ask that question to be critical. But I would like to use it to explore a part of where you are "coming from". That is, of course, if you do not mind sharing.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I aint antagonizin, but man, sometimes, when you keep sayin stuff after a person tells you that aint the way it is, well I know you can understand how that would tend to make you want to flex up in this piece, right?

I aint mad or blamin you, it just aint always fair
how some people can say whatever and others have to watch what they say, right? BUT who said life is fair, hunh?

But its all gravy, no beef with you dude, not yet anyway:-)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I found this spot by accident one day, while searching for a particular publishing company. Well when I plugged in "The Coldest Winter Ever" the thread about Thumpers corner discussing this book popped up. I clicked on it and well the rest is history...

I started reading in the archives just like Rashena is doing now, and when I looked up it was TWO days later, my whole weekend was shot, but I was grinnin from ear to ear. Now, in my head I was thinkin, damn! An AA resource for black writers AND readers too. WOW I never knew a place like this existed. And so I was HYPE I mean, I was amped. A place where I could, read, talk about it, and post about it. Mind you, this is the first place I ever posted, I thought this ish was for the birds, you know, I thought people who did this kind of stuff HAD to be lonely and not have a life... boy was I wrong!!
It's just addictive, like cynique said. And that's the short version of why I post here...to be continued....
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Of course, the shorter answer, abm would be, I post because I choose to, just like you do HAHAHA!
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon,

Okay. I have said something to this effect before to Yukio: It is not what you say, its how you say it.

See. I am 'old'. So is Thumper, Troy, Cynique, Chris, Carey...etc. et. al. We 'speak' in a similar, if not entire the same, tempo/dialect. Yeah, I admit that I (and Lambd) often have definitely strayed off the primrose path. But if you look clearly, you will see that I will say almost ANYTHING...BUT...big BUT here...I will only say it a CERTAIN way. It's that clever/smart@$$ gene that I am both blessed/cursed with (that dang Lambd's got it in spades).

Also, you know, everyday, in countless ways, people say the most critical, insulting and even horrendous things about each other. But they say them a CERTAIN way. So they get away with it.

Also, I think that what is happening with you may be a product of the proverbial generation gap. Face it, you younger foks often come off to Geritol set as being a bit confrontation (if not downright violent).

We have had this discussion before. I am not saying you should 'change' who you are. But I suggest that you consider that if you do indeed aspire to be a successful author, perhaps you can use your visits here to slightly alter your writing persona, just a tad.
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A_womon,

Thanks for answering my prior question. Mind if I ask others:
Have you search for and found sites that you find similarly interesting?
If not, what is uniquely interesting about Thumper's Corner?
And why do you find this site to be "addictive"?
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Come on ABM, NOT ALWAYS!
I could show you some things you and others have posted that are about as subtle as a rose in winter! I mean, if you see one that time of year, there's no missing it right? You guys like to THINK that your being subtle but you gotta admit you don't hardly make the mark. In fact, you make the mark way less than you like to think. But I do think you cover for each other, that's fa damn sho' like its an unwritten code:
This shall heretofore be known as the OLD ZONE, any one under 35 who DARES break the commandments, shall be thrust from hence! To Wit, only those known to be old school, thus, those who have achieved the age of 35 years and up, shall, curse, use sexually explicit language,call one another foul names and otherwise engage. ALL others who dare infract thusly, will be booted from the site forthwith by ye royal booters! So shall it be written, so shall it BE.
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Guess who gave your last post those 4 stars, Abm?

A-womon, there are a lot of people your age who do not have your edgy attitude, who do not take everything and run with it. I'm beginning to think it has nothing to do with age. It's your core personality. But - so shall it be.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 09:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

who? cynique? how many do you know my age?
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The archives don't lie. You used to be a lot like my cynique why ya foolin
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that should have been, you used to be a lot like me cynique
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abm: NO disrespect to u and your team, but cut the crap!

U do say somethings a CERTAIN way....your team's way. To folk on another team, u'r foul mouthed and like jamaican says, "Dir'tee!"

If this is the case, then it is an issue of power, which group has the control and yours does...

When i had my exchange w/u....when i used the word d&*K...it wasn't something u hadn't used b4...mine was more or less a shock! Yall assumed u knew me...and my prior behavior was incompatible with comment about your genatalia...the difference really wasn't your socalled CERTAIN way but that this is your comrades house and you're consistently foul mouthed...no your behavior did not stand out...

cynique: you know i'm right...it is age, gender, etc...(moonsigns...race)

There is the ol' men's team and then the ol' team. my dear, you sometimes belong to the latter(though u seem to hate to be boxed in as i do, which is why we get along)...

Lets use gender as an exmaple:
The ol' man's team comes out on to the basketball court...crutches and all, slowly passin the ball, double dribblin, walkin, talkin to the ol' ref cuz they cuzins...,

but sistas and/or men w/ some sense say something...u pass me the ball behind ya back w/ a look away pass...and I cross up, like AI did Jordan, and they call walk...dammit!

Its because the man is gay/bisexual/a boy whose needs fatherly advice...and because you're a girl or woman, and u have a period....so u can't think straight and u are too weak to dribble the ball the way u do and not strong becuz you're jus too emotional, but the ol' men...Get ready! Their thought is lucid and precise, irrefutable and revolutionary....world changers like creflo dolla! but they're stinkin up the court, really but since they have the ref is kin to all of dem, so how.

Cynique, my love...this is really about power!
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You'd be surprised how many people your age there are in my family, none of whom are as aggressive as you. And as Amb said, all of us regular hell raisers do temper our tones and do say tongue-in-cheek things. And there are subtle differences between me and you, because nobody never lectured me or told me to simmer down. People actually seemed to enjoy the way me and Kola went at it because our confrontations actually had comic undertones,and I rarely used profanity. Yet, everybody seems to notice that you have a short fuse and a chip on your shoulder. But, go ahead and be who you are. That's your prerogative, something I'm sure I don't have to tell you.
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Yukio, I think the telling thing is that all of you young people are constantly on the defensive, all so quick to be offended, always so suspicious that someone is trying to get over on you. And all of us older ones tend not to give a damn. To me, it's not about power. It's about you guys' insecurities.
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Cynique,

I agree that us ol' foks, the 'yutes' often appear usually defensive and hostile. But (to speak) on their behalf, I credit that to their being born in a world that seems to grow increasingly competitive and confusing. Standards and rules are as inconsistent as they are fleeting. Old friends are new enemies. No one grows up with (or even knows) his or her father. Wars are fought for ambiguous reasons. And making love with someone can kill you.

I believe all of that and countless other issues have helped breed a generation of people who are (and perhaps rightly so) antagonistic and confrontational.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yukio & A_womon,

I don't understand why you (appear) to want to quarrel about perceptions that are as varied and unique as fingerprints.

What is your beef anyway? That you were in some way punished or that myself, Lambd and others have not, per your view, been treated in kind?

I have already said I disagree with the prior suspensions. I just tried to note how subtle differences in age/style might cause others to view/respond differently to what has been posted.

But hey, I am not owner/manager of this site. Ultimately, it is up to them to decide what is/isn't acceptable.

And why would I enjoy some advantage here?

Why/how would it benefit Troy/Thumper to grant such to me when I have no special, unique relationship with them. I am not an owner/sponsor of this site. I hock no books here. Heck. We don't REALLY know each other from Adam. Frankly, if Thumper told me scram for good, I can not foresee that his doing that would in anyway negatively impact him or this site.

So while I appreciate how you feel/think. This favoritism that you infer that I and others enjoy would not appear to add up.

You have every right to feel as you do. But why blame me for your receiving a punishment that I myself would argue should have never happened to begin with?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A womon

You are coming back for what? --to try to put a "wild azz lame duck" in check. If you could first keep yourself in check maybe that would work, however....... I have zero respect for your tantrums, especially because you refuse to grow up. If I was everything you say I am, you wouldn't dare give me your power, time and attention. I knew you'd be back sooner than I was leaving. You're a puppet.

I think you don't take so much issue as to what I say, it's just that it's coming from a white woman that bothers you so much. Time still moves even if you choose not to. White women and white women w/ black men (interracial love regardless of the coupling) isn't going anywhere just because you don't like it. It will only be your problem until you choose otherwise, and only your life will suffer. Have fun --cause the people out there lov'in and sex'in sure are and not thinking a thing about you! Futhermore, the next time you see a couple and feel like puking, think again. That man could be an abuser, alcoholic, rapist, drug-dealer, and/or unemployed. There is A reason he isn't with you, which also could be none of the above, however, the point is he isn't with you. Worry about your own life!

I have one more post to Abm and then I'm out. Know this though, a confident, grown woman can be funny, serious, sensual, flirtatious, intelligent, beautiful, gifted, sexy, smart-a$$, confrontational, tender, gentle, strong, AND HIGHLY spiritual without compromising her feminine principle. My greatest assest as a woman is that my nature is multi-dimensional. I will work the sh*t out of it according to circumstance. When another woman complains about it, I know that they don't understand or possess this innate, feminine gift (though all can have it). I can be sweet as pie, or as rough and turbulent as the roaring sea, however, it is what element that you choose to deal with me that you will see the most. Beauty or beast? You choose beast. I asked that people watch where they step in my garden. I love my flowers and will share them freely, just don't stomp on them.

A_womon these aren't insults to you, you are just getting what you have given me from the jump. Don't expect people to just take your "ish" lying down. You dish it out, but don't like to take it. Like I told you before, I ain't the one and you are too proud to accept this.


After all this, I still wish you well. You're just a bleeding heart. I have always seen it for what it's worth. I hope you find a way to discover personal peace! You have so much potential!




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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm

I will write my response tomorrow!

Peace
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Moonsigns,

Oooooh! I am so excited I am just about tingling ALL OVER.

Hehe!
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Moonsigns,

...though, you aren't going to call me a n*&&@# as you head on out the door. Are you?

Cuz that would be a bit atypical of what I've come to expect of you.
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IS WHA TEK UNNO?

My gracious. What is goin' ON up in hyeah, Mane?











Lambd, you ain't goin' nowhere. *flashin' $99.00 ring* We been' engaged fo' 11 years now. What is it? YOU GOIN' BACK TO DAT HUZZEE!? You sed you wuz gon' DIVORCE her and murry MEEEEEEE!!!
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abm: no beef...i just made statements. It is not conscience, it is, however, the way power works...it is similar to the comment i made to moonsigns...it also applys here: when u are the standard, you have the convenience of not care and as important benefiting from your status.

Do u really think white people know the power that they have? They just live it...this is what goes on here...what some of u do goes unchecked!

Again, this is an insight...no generational beef, nothing personal, and really not about anyone in particular. I just used you as an example, since you used yourself....As I've told my friend cyn., I represent myself and I am many things...i belong to a generation, a neigborhood, several political group, cultural groups, etc...so my perspective is not limited by my age...though of course, we can tread into the wisdom discussion as well as...but we done that already.

Abm and Cynique:
If u reread, if u choose of course, my post...i basically said that there are different perspectives and those in the majority are often those w/the power...the generational point is one instance, but I included gender and in moonsigns case, race...so the notion of being "defensive" is really where stand.

cynique: becareful...don't place me in a box when u know it don't fit.
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moonsigns if Im a puppet you are a damn muppet cause I don't see your ass steppin away neither. You been leaving for a whole day now and it is YOu that step to me soooo believe abm's hype all you like. It Don't cost me nothin!!!

If it aint my business about a black man dating a white woman, why is it your business whether a black man writes about black womans' booties? why is it YOUR business that black men are making videos in prison? Is your man on lockdown?Well according to you he should be otherwise you should be keeping your comments about it to yourself right? right.it aint ya business.

NOW let me tell you something in case you don't know. IT IS my business who a brother dates, because if he has been with one of you, he can't be with me, and I don't give a damn who he is sexing, for the moment, he won't be sexing me later and so I make it my business to know who the man that Im choosing has been with, it's called SAFE SEX. GET a clue cause you don't have one.

And as far as you working the sh*t outta your ass, honey what you do with that black man in your bedroom is YOUR business, I sure that I don't care how you sex him, but one things fa damn sho, YOU aint one of those white girls that wasn't out to sample the so called mythical black man, are you. NO honey, as usual you tried it and got stuck. Your mighty energy notwithstanding. But of course, you're white so of course you speak for all whites when you speak. how laughable! Shame on you. I though the moon spirit would have told you, you are only one person and speak for one person! And as for being multidemensional, please, you just an around they way white girl that got caught up with one exception, you don't know you're caught up and so you like to pretend you're special. That's why you use that tired my precious energy can't be used up, or I must learn to control my tongue, to fool yourself into thinking you are something special. But guess what? Save it for someone like ABM cause to me you're as transparent as a ghost!!! So you see moonsigns I ain't even flinching, I can't work up a good anger this time cause you are cracking me up! Your cover is blown and it is you who have proved my point. Youre NOT special, YOUre NOt gifted, and you sho in hell are NOT at all that you tried to pretend to be. What you are is a white girl, trying to tell me who I am and how I should live, and your best bet is to save alla that for your children, cause they are the only ones you can hope to educate about blackness around here.

Oh and trust and believe you aint got nothin on me girl, when it comes to getting and holding the man I choose, trust me unlike SOME of these fools you've come across here and quite contrary to what you may have been brainwashed into believing all black men do NOT lust after white women, and as I said before those that do are welcome to you and those like you, I will continue to puke when I see any of you. Trust me,my man won't blink once at you when he is with me. OH yes, I got it like THAT!

Oh and you told me you aint the one? You sho look like the one to me!
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Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 06:41 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah ABM, you said "waaaaay to much" and I'm saying, yeeeeees, waaaaaay to much :-). WOW
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Carey,

WHO? Lil' ol' me? "Did I do dat?"

Anyway, I don't care what they say...Chicks hate each other. Whether it is here, at my business or at home, it seems I have always got a ringside view of some catfight.
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Abm, you gotta admit, this some gooooood sh!+!
I don't wanna post no more, but I can't help but read. I been readin' here for years. I luv this sh!+! Me and A_woman are like junkies up in here!
The catfight between A_woman and Moonie are one of the best we've had in awhile. I'm waitin' for the vaseline on the cheeks and the earrings and bras to start coming off. Now if we can just get Rashena to jump in on somebody's side, we'd have something then.

Yukio and A_woman>>>>Just to throw my two cents into that. Some of my responses have been deleted by the great and powerful OZ and my cyberlife has been threatened in the past. So don't think the young people got a mononpoly on gettin' the discipline around here. I think its not the older crowd that has the power, I think its the people who have been posting here the longest that have the advantage. Even if they don't realize it. Anyway, I think we all should try to police our writing a little better and not be so quick to jump off on a tangent...Even though it is quite entertaining for fools who eat that type of stuff up...How did Carey put it? "**Cough, cough, Abm, Cough, cough**"

Anyway, my promises aint worth two cents, cuz I aint worth one, but I promise not to say anything else until Thumpdaddy gets back. Lawd knows he gonna have some words for you negrowz! Soze I betta drop and roll, duck and cover, and hit da deck, til then.

Peez!
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Well, since I'm often considered a flashpoint, why is it I never get deleted or suspended? You know why? Because I really think the powers-that-be can discern that although I am sarcastic, I am not vindictive, that my humor is sly, but not malicious, that I am naughty, but not vulgar. And deep down inside, I like really like everybody, and this includes Moonsigns and Kola nut. And to me, the situation with Moonsigns is a test case for how the young and old react. A-womon and Yukio were spazzing out over everything she said! And what were us "old" folks doing? Well, she and I were discussing the moon and Viggo. I was able to excuse her for being so "well-meaning". What was Abm doing? Alternating between flirting with her and engaging her in a civil discourse. What was Lambd doing? Speculating about her butt size and throwing her an occasional zinger. Chris Hayden? He was off into his thing, wondering about vampires and Oprah. Carey? He kept a low profile with his grumbling. I'm not saying that one reaction is better than the other but, - I'm thinking it. LOL
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Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 12:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is dat my Lambie-Pie? Hi, Boo.
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I think that if a lot more black people had "spazzed out" long time ago, maybe some REAL change would have been continually made and wouldn't have stopped with some of the old school spazzers. Oh Im sure yall know them? The ones that hung out with Martin Luther and them at the JIM CROW restaurants and good lord/white only water fountains and thangs.

So spazzin might be a little better than being so complacent and welcoming and just so understanding that a thousand years later we STILL trying to overcome etc....
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People have always been spazzing, my dear, with meager results. Sometimes you have to lull your opponent into apathy, and then strike.
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cynique and lambd: i'm talkin about power dynamics...there is always an exception to the rule...remember, i didn't limit my point to "generation" but whatever the situation is a particular groups will have the power...whether is it generational, racial, ol heads as in length of posting, etc...

cynique: reading is fundamental...I personally wish if u are to mention my name to accurately characterize me...this is when i get personal, btw. such was the case w/the errorred moonsigns..

i know u can read, so do so!

I don't know what spazzed out means as it pertains to me... When I disagreed w/her and I told her so...as i have done w/others...I'm consistent. Now, if spazzed out means that u didn't think our exchange had any substance. well, that is an opinion...yours, which is really insignificant as it pertains to what i choose to respond to...

Concerning moonsigns: as i repeated to her and others, now you, our last exchanges had nothing to do w/a disagreement...the exchange could have been over quickly if she would have admitted that she took my post out of context to prove her point...

so, cyn., don't exploit my post to sound cute and witty...u can do so w/o me!
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It is your one and only Lambie-pie. You ready for a slice, Cee-Cee?

Hey! Don't talk to me. I'm not supposed to be posting!

Hey_woman: You always trippin'! The Moon-ghost been trying to tip-toe out the door and you keep baiting her back in. What the hell is wrong wit you? Do you want her to go so we can have a "Cracker-free" zone or don't you?

Not that its anything wrong wit bein' a cracker. Hell, I lubz me sum crackers. Sometimes Ize have 'em wit tea 'n jelly. Sumtimes Ize have 'em wit p-nit butta 'n milk. Sumtimes, Massa let me have 'em on the porch of da big house (longs I don't drop no crumbs on his steps). Hey_woman, you don't like crackers? Day okay sumtimes. Jez gotta keeps yo' eyes on 'em...Na uh! Can't blink on no cracker. Jez as sho as you turn yo back, dey gone stick a knife in in it. That's fo sho'!
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Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 01:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yukio>>>My fault, there son. I misunderstood you. I tried to tell you before that I aint the brightest bulb in the chandelier. Now take you dictionary readin' azz back to sleep! Soundin' like a young Encyclopedia Brown up in here.
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Well, Yukio, I never quoted you, so I'm not misinterpreting your words. We're talking impressions here. This is where you and a-womon and have our problems. There was tone of contempt to you guys' posts. To me, you over-reacted. And it did get personal. But us older people kept things in perspective and were more amused than annoyed by Moonsigns's "good intentions" because we've heard it all before.
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Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 02:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LAMBD. WHUT WHUT!! YEW KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!

YEP!yEP You a sho sho nuff FOOL!! aND I love it!! (and you) hahaha!!!
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cynique: Yes. It must be impressions. Before, I continue, consider, again, that I've not limited my points to "generation."


It wasn't personal w/me; it was amusing. I called her arrogant cuz she thought she understood. Yet, if she did, there wouldn't have been a reason to take my post out of context. So, in my opinion, I thought it amusing that she (1) wouldn't acknowledge she didn't understand, (2) feign innocence and surrpise about the unsolicited apology case, and (3) place peace and respect at the end of her posts....I was joking wit her...abm style w/a spice of bx/harlem usa!

Don't assume, cynique. Try to see me as a person w/o the generational b/s. I've heard what she has said before, long, long ago. Remember, I've had these debates w/u and others years ago, and it wasn't new or mind changing THEN. The pity of this discussion, is that I wasn't even talkin about "generation" and I wasn't even arguing w/moonsigns.

Personally, and now this is a generational observation, when MANY of u give your advice, make declarations, and generalization, you OFTEN do it w/o respect to myself and others. SO, here it is my IMPRESSION that u can't read or hear me but because u choose not to.

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OK, Yukio. Would that we could control the impressions that people get from what we write.
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Not sure what u mean, by, "Would that we could control the impressions that people get from what we write." please, if u care to, explain...
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Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 05:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Uhm....I think I will probably enjoy lurking MUCH more.....

*scared*

LMAO
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Cynique,

You have a way of saying things that is so utterly wise and clear that you make me feel all gooey inside. I just hope your wisdom is not lost on those upon whom it is intended.


Yukio,

Who creates and wields the "standard" and "power" around here that you refer to? Surely it is not myself, Lambd, Cynique or any of the others to which you refer. That right/privileged is reserved solely for those who pay the bills 'round here: Troy/Thumper (T-n-T). We all 'exist' here by THEIR leave.

Not yours or mine.

So are your recent posts intended for them? Or are you making commentary that is meant for more 'general' consumption?

Also, I find it interesting that you claim to represent yourself. Good. As well you should. But why then do you presume to be able to set the standards of what has been left "unchecked" when that is really only for T-n-T to decide?

And don't you find it odd that you OFTEN have a problem with others fully understanding and appreciating the points you are trying to make? I thinks the application of a lil' "wisdom" might guide you to a mutually beneficial answer to that question.


A_womon,

I'm the one dispensing the "hype"?

Honey. Unless you are capable of performing a high grade of hypnosis, you likely will be unable to get ANY man who's been in the mix a while to cop to EVERYTHING he's done with EVERYONE (be they Black, White, Green, Male, K-9, etc.). Cuz there's just some details about how a man has dealt his deal that you probably couldn't really stand to know.

It is easy and convenient for us foks who have NOT lived under the threat of being hung from an Oak tree to speculate on what our forebears should have done. But maybe this'll help us all to spazz-out a bit: ~"Let's get retaaarded! Let's get retaaarded in here! Let's get retaaarded!"~


Moonsigns,

See. Dis why some Black foks skurred to let White people in the door. Yawl get things are twisted up.


A_womon/Moonsigns,

I know you are quite prepared to argue the contrary. But I wonder do you care to know that you both have essentially done to the other what you have vehemently accused the other of doing to you? Or to paraphrase your quarreling: "How you gon' tell me who/what I am. I know who/what I am. And you sure as heck don't. So cut the crap...But before I go, lemme tell you who/what YOU are!"

Although you both make some compelling points, I have concluded the essence of your ongoing row isn't even about sex and race. It's really about 2 girls who both think they are cute flexin' on the playground after school has let out.


Lambd,

I agree I can hardly get enuff of this stuff. I too am waiting for some ta ta's to come flyin' out when A_womon and Moonsigns mixes it up. But be careful before you toss Rashena into the fray. Heck! We might discover she's a bi-sexual Vietnamese. And then the whole thing would REALLY get out of control.

But I wouldn't say you ain't worth 2 cents. You are worth all of that and more. A nickel would be pushin' it, though.

You are always funny, playah. But that ""Cracker-free" zone" and what followed almost brings a tear to my eye. And you even broke out an "Encyclopedia Brown" on Yukio. Hehe!

When you and Cynique hook-up, which seems about as inevitable as taxes, please be sure to score it all one of those R. Kelly camcorders. Cuz I'm betting that's the funniest thing I'll ever see.

I am not going to beg you stay. Because straight men should not plead for other guys to stay with them (Unless, of course they are both on the DL...Right, Chris?). But I will say this: What is most amazing about you is you've managed to 'say' more while you 'leave' than you ever did when you 'stayed'. So maybe you should scram more often.
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ABM,

I aint mad atcha! :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)

But really, answer me this, why you always pickin fights with Yukio? I'm just curious, {it aint nothin about me and him so don't start!!}
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A_Womon...I got the BEST of New Birth, girl I am jammin, whats the name of that song you like?
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Hey Sisg!!!

Whussup girl!!


I don't know the name, but the words are

...stay until its time...for you to go! That might be the name of the song too.

If that song is on there, then PLEASE tell me where you got it. I would loooooooooove to get a CD for my dad's birthday Sept 10th! he would love it. That way I could burn me a copy of us his! hahahaaaa!!!
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that should have been "off of his"
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abm: In my interpretation of your post about the "CERTAIN" way u speak, u, as i understand it, made the point that your generation's dialect/speech was similar rendering a sort of "community" of understanding that goes w/out saying...those outside of that coterie the are the powerless, the ruled. The power is wield by a consensus of similar language and values. AGAIN, IT IS NOT CONSCIENCE because of your coterie's a prioir "community" of language, values, etc..and it is NOT limited to GENERATION.

U ask:

(1)Also, I find it interesting that you claim to represent yourself. Good. As well you should. But why then do you presume to be able to set the standards of what has been left "unchecked" when that is really only for T-n-T to decide?

I made observations, as you have. I've set no standards...Where have i done this? Is this your interpretation or my intent? And does it really matter what the author of the words mean?

(2)And don't you find it odd that you OFTEN have a problem with others fully understanding and appreciating the points you are trying to make? I thinks the application of a lil' "wisdom" might guide you to a mutually beneficial answer to that question.

Rather than ask the question, answer it for me(really yourself) since u seem to want to drop some "wisdom."

I don't have a problem w/people understanding me. I have a problem with people telling me what I meant. I don't expect people to understand me "fully" because it is impossible to understand anyone "fully," especially in this form of communication. I also notice that some people don't read eachother's posts; people are also selective in what they want to respond to, people also take things out of context, others figure they already have you pegged and they don't have to read what is written...there are many variables and possibilities. I know I don't "fully" understand, anyone. I also believe that words are slippery, and we have to try to decipher their connotative and denotative meaning...as cynique also mentions...impressions, they have to be deciphered, as well as tone...

I tend to write declaratively...and i spice my prose w/ relative verbs, as u picked up "often." As, i write, read, and understand my writing, it is impersonal.

When I have a general idea of a persons post, I make a comment. If they correct me, then they do so, and its all to the good. I try to ask questions about what people mean rather than assume I "fully" understand them.
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Come on Sisg. Don't lee me hangin. See, you could save my life. I borrowed that cd from my dad a while back see, and I scratched the mess outta it somehow and well I aint EXACTLY got around to tellin him yet... and you know.. and nice new one for his B-day would be gra-vee. Feel me? So......
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Okay, A_womon, I hear ya, I'ma have to listen again, cuz I didn't hear those lyrics, got caught up in "Dream Merchant, Wildflower and Been Such a Long time...." it's all good, girl, but hey, let me tell you, it's one of those az my kids would call it, bootleg cd's, but it plays well, really well....he might like it anyway, when is his b'day, let me know girl, I'll give it a second round, and let you know, oooooh, it's so good!

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Well, Abm, I'm glad you get where I'm coming from. You know they say great minds all run along the same path. LOL! But, about me and Lambd, "hookin up", um-well, you know he quit me. I think he, um, realized that he and I also got that "generation gap" thing going, - if you get my drift. Chocolate city and Chi-town will always be Cyber site. sigh.
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Yukio says:

Not sure what u mean, by, "Would that we could control the impressions that people get from what we write." please, if u care to, explain...

Cynique says:
I just meant that if only all of us could dictate the impression we want people to get from what we write. But this is something we can't control because it's hard for people to be objective.
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Stop it Sisgal, you're gonna make me break mine out. Wow, take me back! I looooove Dream Merchant....and Wildflower... quit it! And don't EVEN mention Been such a long time, ooouuuuuu we. Dang, I need me somebody to hold, that's for real, mmmmm mmmmmm mmmmm, lord have mercy, if I only knew what to say..... somebody help me.....please.Quit it Sisgal you're killin', you really are!!!!!!
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A_woman, we have a oldies store here that's got EVERYTHANG!!! I know they got New Birth. Find out what song you looking for and I'll go get the CD and send it to you. I found some AWB in that joint and it was kickin'! You knoooooow! It's only a school boy crush! Hey_youngun! What the hell you know about New Birth anyway?

Cynique...You breakin' my heart. You know I always had high hopes for that thang of yours. Cyber or otherwise! Hell, there's an airport right up the skreet! Actually there are three major airports right here in the area. Dulles, BWI, and Reagan. I can get on a jet at 1000 and we can be mending fences by 1400...hehehe! If you know what I mean.

Abm...Yeah. I noticed that I had more to say going out the door than I had to say before I decided to go. Wild, right? A_woman and White_woman been pretty chatty while they roll out, too. I guess its hard going cold turkey on this T-N-T drug we on.
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Lambd, shoooooooooooot, I told yall ol school is what's up baybee. I thought you Knew. When we used to have to clean the house, my dad would be bumpin New Birth,Delfonics,Sam & Dave,Barry White, ALLA dat!!! I love it! Period. Shoot, we would have so much fun, we almost forgot we was doin work! He would play a little cut, stop the music and yell upstairs " Whoever tell me who this is get 5 bucks!" Yeh, it was on, back in the day!
And don't let my uncles and aunts start spinnin oldies at cookouts and thangs, man, its really on then! they get to pretendin they onstage singin and stuff... talkin bout F-U-N!!! We be crackin up!!!
Lambd, good lookin out, son! Read my earlier post, cuz that's the cut! Let me know what you can do!
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cyn: gotcha and agree.
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A_womon,

Why I’m "pickin fights" with Yukio?

Hmmmm?

Probably in part because I greatly admire and envy him. So you know I gottah 'hate' on him a lil', if for no other reason than to feel bettah about myself.

Seriously, though, I don't see what I do to be "pickin fights" with him. Rather, hokey as it must sound, I view what occurs between us to be a sincere effort to achieve a higher, clearer truth. If I did not consider him a worthy partner in that endeavor, I would likely avoid him altogether.


But come on now. We both know hur gottah defend hur Maan. Hehe!
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Lambd, I never could get military time straight!1000? 1400? Days, nights, hours, minutes, seconds, ummm - seconds are alway good but, actually, nothin is as good as the first time. Dayum! Now you got me going off on tangents. And speakin of oldies, is it the Chi-Lites who sing "make up to break up," or is it "break up to make up?"
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Dayyum! Did I do that? My mind just works that way. Force of habit, I guess... I meant 10:00 a.m.
and 2:00 p.m. Sorry about that.

Everytime that song comes on the radio I sing along differently..."Make up tooo break up, that's all we doooo" Next week it'll be, "Break up tooo make up. Its a game for fooools" Somebody stop me. Luckily I be in the truck by myself most of the time so nobody can correct me and piss me off but my dog. Hell, she sing it better than I can.
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Cynique,

I think the Stylistics sang "Break up to Make up". The Chi Lites best include "Have You Seen Her?" ("Tell me have you seen her.")
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Yeah, yeah, right. Guess I had my mind blown too much by the Delphonics.
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Digging Issac Hayes' rendition of Burt Bacharach's "Walk On By". Dis hur is jus 'bout one ov dah funkiest tracks yule evah hur.
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Gonna follow it up with his version of "By the Time I get to Phoenix? "
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Cynique,

Never quite got into Hayes' 'Phoenix". A bit to slow and talkative for my tastes.

But a BIG thumbs up on the Delphonic's "Didn't I Blow Your Mind".
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Yes Abm, Hayes' "Walk on By" is classic!
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Didn't I blow ya' mind this time? Didn't I?

I love dat sh!+
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A_woman,You betta let me know what you want from the sto'. I'm fitna ride to Silver Spring to that recka sto' I waz tellin' you about! Y'all up in here, got me sprung on my oldies. I'm bout ta put on some old EWF in a minute.
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 01:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lambd,

drop me an email jalenjalen@hotmail.com
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 01:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lambd,

Rundat EWF. I was just lissinin' to their "Imagination" track (Spirit album) just a lil' while ago.

Earth, Wind & Fire were dynamite!
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Bleekindigo,

I'll bet with Bacharach heard Hayes' version of W.O.B., dude said, "Dayum! What the F did that n-word do to my song!"

HEHE!
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 01:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aight! Email is sent! EWF is on!
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 01:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HA HA HA!!! I KNOW--He said- well i'll be damned! He dun gon' and FUNKED UP MY SONG!! And funked it up he did!
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 02:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

lambd you trippin or my email is! i aint git nothin!!
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 02:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I sent it to jalenjalen@hotmail.com twice. Try my email at lambd@hotmail.com and see what you happens.----------PEACE, YOUNG ONE!!!!
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 03:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ok! got it that last time! holla!
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ABM and Bleek, your remarks reminded me of how this white composer who wrote "It's a Hard Knock Life" for the Broadway musical "Annie" had at first refused when Jay Z wanted to sample this song on one of his album cuts. Naturally, this guy didn't want to be associated with the black Rap music scene. But once those royalty checks started rolling, he developed a whole new outlook and let it be known he was open for any more samplings that any other rapper wanted use. It's all about the Benjamins. LOL.
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Its hard to explain to white folks that don't know hip hop that all rap aint gangsta. He probably thought Jigga was going to dis his song and throw them explicit lyrics on that track. Instead, the Rock turned it into a modern day ghetto anthem and made it lucrative for everyone involved. It aint always gotta be a hard knock life if you can twist it, then split, then mix it just right...Wh-Whut-What?
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Yeah. You gottah be open to let art flow. Because if you are, possibilities abound.

And this hip-hop can't be stopped. Rick James made more writers/publishing $ from Mc Hammer's "You can't touch this" than he did from his original "Super Freak". As did David Bowie from Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby" than the original "Pressure". So if a rapper wants to use your stuff, you might wanna let'em do his thang.


I can listen to EWF all day long!
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Oh, I'm so sorry i missed all this conversation...but I had to run off to my 25yr class reunion, and let me tell you..it was the bomb! Talk about OLD SCHOOL, my brothers and I do love them came in there with matching suits and hats, gotta love them! I ain't seen so much sheen in years LOL. We danced to Flashlight, GetOff, and all sorts of old stuff...we did the Soul Train line, robot, spank and bumped, okaaaaay. Some of us a little rounder and more robust, but we all still get down, but how about those haters....why sisters wanna hate cuz you still holding your own...after 25 years, yeah, it was all good!

BTW...Cynique, girl, I love By the Time I get to Phoenix, it's the song I put on when I'm feeling down, bc the way Isacc sings that song, ain't nobody more down than that brother, "7 times she cheated on him and seven times he took her back...". I got the best of Isacc Hayes, and I have to play "Walk on By" on the highest level just so I can hear those funky live strings....ain't nothing like it.

I feel really bad bc at the reunion I couldn't hardly remember anyones name, and alot of faces, but everyone knew me...i told him it was age and stuff, but I had a really good time, don't nobody do it like Gary, or maybe except Chicago, and then again, Detroit...all you all know what I mean, it's just something about that area, "We just cool!"
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Hello Sisgal, I can feel your excitment. I was smiling and thangs just reading it. Good for you, you needed that. Now tell the truth, was that old flame there. Bet he was. But I bet his new thang was right behind him too. Oh yeah, they be looking for the conversations of the eyes. Yeah them haters can't let it go can they. I don't know if you noticed but they never go to the bathroom. Oh no, that's why they look all mad and stuff. They need to let out one good fart. You know I ain't lyin'. They to busy all up in people's faces with that look, that they ain't got time to let out a little "steam". You know I'm right. It's usually the same chick that always got in the fights so they could try and embarrass someone by rippin' off their bra. Say it, say it, you know I'm right. But I'll tell you what, you wouldn't want to ride home wit one of those heifers..........peeeee yew! Stand tall girl, if you said you still got it then hey, ain't nothing wrong with workin' it every now and then!

Carey
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 12:52 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds like you had a ball Sis Gal. I still love to do the Bump! I recall that my 25th class reunion was kinda fun, too. We had a class of 725 out of which only about 30 were black. All those ol white middle-aged men couldn't get enough of schmoozing with us black women who they had apparently acquired a taste for over the years. I didn't buy one drink that night but my glass was never empty. We had a lot of Italians in our class, and one table of them looked a crew of mafia hit-men. Ahhh, memories.
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 12:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yep Carey and Cynique....I did have a ball, nothing like reminiscing about old times. We had a class of 690, and I think it was about 85 people there. No Carey, no old bf's, I happened to date out of my class during my entire time in high school, under, and upper but hardly ever the same class. But it was all good and worth the trip!
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 01:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I missed you, A-Woman. How's the project coming along?
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JUSTWRIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEE!!! What's up girl! You KNOW I missed you too! Welcome Back!!

The project is what it is, nothing new! I NEED some advice BAD. I'm at work right now but I will get witcha later!

So glad you are BACK!! I'm SMILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 08:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so Justwrite, are you officially back???
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Yes. ~blushing~ I've been checking you out from time to time while I've been gone. Looks like you've been holding your own. I'm proud of you. Is there anything I can do to help you with your project?
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Let me email you. Thanks so much for your offer of help, I will email you my cell phone number later on so we can talk. Speak with you soon! :-)

It's been gettin rough on a sistah around here!

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