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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 43
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 11:59 am: | 
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Cornel West & Toni Morrison are featured on C-SPAN today at 2:23 pm (est.). |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 165
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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aha....this should be good...thank u! |
Bookgirl
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Post Number: 64
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 11:44 pm: |
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Missed it because I was off-line all day. Anyone wanna tell me what I missed? Thanks! |
Yukio
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Post Number: 166
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 01:41 am: |
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they talked about alot of topics, for example...how toni morrison took for granted blacks humanity--she says that African writers gave her license to do and that she had a template, so to speak, etc...In general, however, they focused on politics, race, and mostly african american's blues'sensibility and the US as an empire.... |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 119
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 10:20 am: |
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Did she say anything about The Known World's winning the Pulitzer instead of Love? |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 167
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 10:33 am: |
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nope...i think it was taped before the pulitzer's results...in addition, i don't think she's competitive like that... |
Abm
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 11:48 am: |
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It was less a discussion on literature, and more discussion on American culture/events (e.g., a polemic of the Bush Administration). It was an engaging and enlightening discussion (though West at times seemed to overwhelm the dialogue). But I’d hoped they would have shared their views about the current state of American literature. |
Troy
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 07:09 pm: |
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Thanks for the heads up ABM. My wife and were going to catch the discussion live, but the tickets sold out by the time we learned about the event. Had the event been drive from a literary or publishing perspective I may have been more in the loop and could have scored some tickets. If it was more book related it would have been on CSAP-2 and it would have been rebroadcast 10 times by now.
I found the discussion interesting. I was more impressed by Morrison than West. Cornel seems to come across more and more like a combination of Al Sharptom (not as witty), Jessie Jackson (not as alliterative) and Michael Dyson (not as fast a talker) and less of an academic/intellectual. He disappointed me by saying how much he had against Gibson's "Passion" but freely admits he has no intention of even seeing the movie. Such vehement opposition to a movie he had not seen seemed like an overreaction.
Chris, Love did not win the Pulitzer because Oprah is not on the selection committee. |
Yukio
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 09:34 pm: |
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Troy:
Hmmmm....i was impressed by both. I, unlike you, totally agree with West. I read a few reviews and saw him on television...and it was enough to convince me it was a waste...if you know enough about the movie, you don't need the details...
you are funny with the Oprah and West being a combination of several of these people....
BTW, I think he comes across more as an intellectual than an academic, at least as it regard that particular event. Academic and intellectual should not have a slash between them, since they do different things....
an academic only participates in university writing and lectures among other professors. An intellectual, as I understand, is a person with a critical perspective and engagement with social phenomena. This includes organic and traditional intellectuals...the organic is usually the intellectual among the folk and may not academically trained...while the tradition is usually among the bourgeois and academically trained...many of these ideas can be read in Selections from the Prison Notebooks, Antonio Gramsci...as well as the work of Manning Marable's. |
Abm
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 12:47 am: |
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No problem, Troy. I enjoyed West/Morrison's dialogue, though, I wish they had focused more on writing/literature. I too enjoyed Morrison more (at least that was when West would let her get a word in edgewise).
I too am often startled by West's recent behavior. He frequently appears emotionally unhinged. But on some level I must appreciate a man who is apparently as intelligent as he be free/open enough to vigorously reveals how he FEELS as much as what he THINK.
And I think he's a recent survivor of prostate (or testicular) cancer. So perhaps becoming closely acquainted with his mortality has compelled him to do more than to pen obscure Ivy League publications.
I presume West's views about The Passion were at least in part due to his having many liberal and Jewish acquaintances.
BTW: Troy, to partly concur with West, I too wonder what is the point of making and watching a film that is by most accounts solely about watching a man whom millions believe is the Son of God be viciously excoriated, bludgeoned, mutilated then murdered over a +2 hour period. Perhaps there is more to the film than that. But I really don't need to know either way. Because I have already read The Book. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 143
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:44 am: |
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Troy:
Another Oprah basher! We are a dying breed. If the O-maniacs sweat you too much, you can always hide out here in the STL.
Well what about the others I named--see my thread on the Literature forum.
And if Love failed because Oprah was not on the committe, then who was on the committee that threw it to TKW? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 279
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 12:16 pm: |
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I'd like to see Cornel West take on Condoleeza Rice. What a duel of words that would be. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 12:46 pm: |
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Condoleeza would run off at the mouth and say nothing in many words and Cornel would say plenty but we wouldn't be able to figure out what it was. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 284
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:28 pm: |
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Sorta like how a debate between Kerry and Bush would be, huh. |
Abm
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:31 pm: |
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Cornel would mop up the floor with Condelessa!
Really, it wouldn't even be close. Because, right or wrong, he is much more assured of what he says in public (perplexing though it may be to OTHERS) than she appear to be.
Rice always looks/sounds like someone who is surprised that she is on TV.
A West vs Cheney bout, however, would be worthy of Pay-Per-View! |
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