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Crystal
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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 01:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Currently reading My Jim by Nancy Rawles – the story of the early life of Jim of Huck Finn fame. It’s a small book [161 pgs] but it’s taking me a while to get through it because of the heartrenchng slave story. Rawles does a good job of making it feel authentic [maybe too good] and I like the language including her non use of italics for the dialog.

Thunderland by Brandon Massey – yep I’ve been sleep on Mr. Massey. I liked the Jason character but overall thought those boys were a little mature for 13 year olds and I would have liked to know a little more about that old crazy Big George. I’ve got Dark Corner waiting up next.

Flesh and the Devil – by [dare I say it???] Kola Boof – The number one reason I like this book is it’s overwhelming appreciation of the black female form. Over and over you see the descriptions of big lips, noses, butts and soft clouds of hair celebrated. You don’t see that very often in western literature! This is really 2 books in one. The first half is a beautiful lyrical African fable and love story. The 2nd half is pure in-your-face Kola - had me LOL for real. Bigger than life characters, almost ridiculously so but you sure get her point.

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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Crystal,

I just finished reading EJD's Drive me Crazy. It was good, but not one of my favorite EJD books. And yet, i still enjoyed the read.

I am now reading "Little Scarlet" by Walter Mosley and I love it! I love when he writes about Easy and Mouse, and I learn so much from his books and about our history. This one is during the time of the LA riots, I think it is early 70's. I love the way Walter Mosley writes, i mean this book is so easy to read, to see, to feel, I feel like i'm inhaling his words. I'm not finished yet, but will be soon, because I just can't put it down. And Mouse, Mouse is a fool!

I agree with you on Flesh and the Devil, the african tale was very beautiful and intrigueing for me as well. And the second half had me lol.



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Crystal
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Hello Sisg, I really enjoyed Little Scarlet too and gave it to my Dad for Christmas - he was a sheriff during the 65 LA riots. He's enjoying it so far. Yep, I think we all love Mouse! Drive Me Crazy was my favorite EJD book yet but that ain't saying much.
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I am currently reading, "The Arc of Justice," by Kevin Boyle. It is a true story which gives an in-depth account of what happened in Detroit, Michigan, back in 1925 when a black doctor tried to move into an all-white neighborhood, - a bold action which triggered a volatile reaction. I am totally immersed in the book because the author so skillfully weaves this incident into the texture of a pivotal era in American history. And not only does he provide a keen insight into the socio-economic forces that led up to, and influenced the outcome of this black excursion into white territory, but he also examines the human toll that racism takes on its victims. (If George Bush could bring himself to read this book, he'd quit blathering about America being founded on the principles of freedom and democracy for all.)
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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 03:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Sisgal,
I've decided I have to back off comparing myself to Simon on American Idol. Scathing put-downs are more in the domain of a reviewer, someone like - say, THUMPER. heh-heh. (I also think your ability to neutralize my lunacy makes you the "yin" to my "yang." Hummm. This calls for a Zen moment. Excuse me while I go chant - in my cave - with my nuts and berries... Nam-myo-ho-renge-Kyo. zzzzzzzzz.
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Hahha Cynique,

You are so crazy, but I luv ya! Keep doing what you doing....of course that's what make you so Unique!

Crystal,

Wow, I bet your dad has some tales of his own. Since a serious winter storm is heading my way, i'm going to get in some necessary reading and looking forward to it! You all have a great weekend!
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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 07:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All

I am currently reading a book by an author most of you have probably not heard of. The author is Linda Watkins......pause........yep, that's our one ond only linda. The Linda that beats up on teenager when they visit our site *LOL*. Seriously, I had to read this again because I promised Linda I would give my take on it when I finished but I didn't. I didn't for reasons I can't even remember, so this time I am going to lay it out there. I am also re-reading Love and Death in Brooklyn by Glenville Lovell. He's the author of "Too Beautiful To Die". Again, like Linda's, I should have been on my job but I slipped. Hey, spank me, am quilty but I am on the right path .........today.
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Hello

I forgot something. Bravo Crystal, I knew you could do it. I am not going to bust you out *smile*, I am just going to say that I am proud of you. When I grow up I want to be just like you. If you would only take off that clown suit (inside joke).

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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 01:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Waiting for An Angel--Helon Habila
Upstate-Kalisha Buckhanon
Love in the Asylum-Lisa Carey
The Full Matilda-David Haynes
The Working Poor: Invisible in America-David K. Shipler (This is one is better than fiction!)
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 04:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello

Thanks to a friend of mine I am about to get started on Drama Factor by Wanda M Toby.
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Finishing up Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafon, a 500-page mystery set in old Barcelona and haunted by the Spanish Civil War.



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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 04:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

the Colossus of New York, by Colson Whitehead (i'm homesick)
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Crystal
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Carey - shudddd up! And can I volunteer for that spanking job???
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Cynique, I saw the author on a local PBS station in Columbus Ohio where I live. Im telling folks about the book and I havent read it.
Linda from Ohio
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You sure can! But do I have to remain silent? I can do that too but only if you talk....you know, while you're doing it *smile*.

But wait, why you all of a sudden want to talk all flirty? I thought you detested such antics on the board. What's up, coming out of your shell. Uummm, maybe I can give you a few pointers. Not for me mind you but for someother lucky Joe that might fall into your over-ripe net *lol*.

Now stop it, your kids could be reading it and then you'll wonder why they are looking at you all strange. Remember the first time you realized what your parents had done to make you......yeah, wasn't that an awakening. So quit it, you.....you....friend of mine :-).
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 07:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I forgot to post what Im reading:
He's Just A Friend Mary B Morrison up next:
Leo Africanus Amin Maalouf
Mother Of Pearl Melinda Haynes
Black Life Of Mississippi:Slaves,Free Blacks and the Western Steamboat World
If You Walked in My Shoes Gwynne Forster
Menage's Way Victor L. Martin
The Velvet Rope Brenda L Thomas
Someone to Love Me Francis Ray
The Ways of White Folks Langston Hughes
The Best of Simple Langston
Linda From Ohio
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chango's Fire - Ernesto Quinonez

and --

Love and Death in Brooklyn - Glenville Lovell

WhistlingWoman
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Oh man, lots of stuff...let me go get the list together. LOL
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Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 03:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Cynique: Im about to start "Arc of Justice" and I was wondering what your thoughts were.? By the time I read your response, I will have finished reading it.
Linda from Ohio
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I just finished Upstate by Kalisha Buckhannon...I can't say enough about it. It was a great book...i got really caught up in the lives of these two people what a startling debut!
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I've been reading a lot of old school fiction in the past 6 months or so. I just finished up Go Tell it on the Mountain by James Baldwin. I'm switching it up now and finally reading The Coldest Winter Ever. Never read urban fiction before so I thought I'd read this one since it's been on my shelf for years. I'm also reading Soul on Ice by Eldridge Cleaver.
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Libralin2: I thoroughly enjoyed "The Arc of Justice!" It was sooo well-written and interesting and educational and full of intrigue and emotional impact; a documentary that reinforced my belief that truth is "stranger" than fiction. I'd give it 5 stars.
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I'm reading a biography of Faulkner by Stephen B. Oates. Thumper was talking about Faulkner's prose, so first I read As I Lay Dying. Then I picked up 6-10 other Faulkner books at the used bookstore.

There were three Faulkner bios at the library. One of them did not mention the incident which caused James Baldwin to reprimand Faulkner (and if you read the letters of Albert Murray and Ralph Ellison, I think it burned them up too). So I ruled that one out and there were two left, a 1989 bio by Robert Karl, and this one, published in 1987. I chose it because Ralph Ellison and Harry Crews blurbed it enthusiastically. It's also about 100 pages shorter than the Karl. It's cool.

I finished a great book called SATCHMO BLOWS UP THE WORLD. I don't know how to describe this one and do it justice. It documents all the State Dept.-sponsored overseas jazz tours from 1956 through the late '70s. For one thing, the CIA was involved in at least one, and possibly two political assassinations, and coups everywhere from Iran and Iraq to the Congo and Ghana and was arming military states like Pakistan in its civil war with what is now Bangladesh. I mean, like Count Basie and his orchestra flying into Laos just weeks before Nixon sent South Vietnamese troops into that country in his "Vietnamization" program. So the musicians were being used for damage control in the civil rights era, but also in ways they were unaware, however in spite of this, they managed to spread their own message to the people, not the elites, of the countries they toured. It's probably one of the most interesting jazz studies book I've ever read, and it goes beyond jazz when gospel and r & b musicians, as well as dance troupes like Alvin Ailey and Judith Jamison became America's cultural ambassadors.
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Sounds like good stuff, Steve.

I'm curious...what was the incident which caused Baldwin to reprimand Faulkner?
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Hi, Although I haven't gotten that far yet, I looked ahead to get an idea of what the controversy was because I had heard about this incident a few years ago in a discussion of Invisible Man in which someone stated the opinion that James Baldwin was "wrong" to criticize whatever Faulkner said. And I think the implications were that a) Faulkner's position on civil rights was extremely liberal for a white Southerner at the time and therefore beyond reproach (which I can't address because I don't know enough about it yet), and B) that Ralph Ellison, on the other hand, who didn't criticize Faulkner, was not "out of line" like Baldwin (which, without even knowing what the incident was about, I sensed was a suspect opinion, and turns out not to be the case anyway, since he and Albert Murray did discuss it privately).

I really don't want to incorrectly state what I haven't yet read, but the author first refers to Faulkner's personal feelings about the rioting and violence that was taking place in the South in 1956 at the time of school desegregation, as well as those of his brother, who may have put a bug in Faulkner's ear. Faulkner lived in Oxford, the home of the University of Mississippi, but at the time he was more alarmed by the rioting at the University of Alabama when a young black woman named Autherine Lucy tried to attend classes there.

To make a long story short, he gave an interview to Russell Warren Howe, a correspondent for the London Sunday Times, and although Howe didn't recognize it, Faulkner was drunk at the time. Rather than try to characterize it, I'll just tell it in the author's words:

To Howe, who didn't know him, Faulkner appeared perfectly sober. In fact, he was so excited and drunk that he made wildly inconsistent remarks. The South, he warned, was armed for revolt. All it needed was an incident to set it off. "If that girl goes back to Tuscaloosa," Faulkner told Howe, "she will die. Then the top will blow off. The government will send its troops and we'll be back at 1860. They must stop pushing those people. The trouble is the North doesn't know that country. They don't know the South will go to war."
Yet the Negro had a right to equality, he said. That was inevitable, "an irresistable force." Still, Faulkner didn't like enforced integration any more than enforced segregation. "As long as there's a middle road, all right, I'll be on it. But" -- and now his brother's remarks burst out of Faulkner's mouth -- "but if it came to fighting I'd fight for Mississippi against the United States even if it meant going out into the street and shooting Negroes. After all, I'm not going to shoot Mississippians."
"You mean white Mississippians?" Howe asked.
"No," Faulkner retorted. "I said Mississippians -- in Mississippi the problem isn't racial. Ninety percent of the Negroes are on one side with the whites, against a handful like me who believe that equality is important."
He said, "We know that racial discrimination is morally bad, that it stinks, that it shouldn't exist, but it does. Should we obliterate the persecutor by acting in a way that we know will send him to his guns, or should we compromise and let it work out in time and save whatever good remains in those white people?" This seemed a loose paraphrase of King's nonviolent message from Montgomery. "The Negroes are right," Faulkner went on to say; "make sure you've got that -- they're right." He had always been on their side and would go on saying that southern whites were wrong, their position unsupportable.
But if he had to make the same choice as Robert E. Lee, he would make it. Faulkner's great-grandfather had owned slaves and "must have known it was wrong," yet he fought in the Confederate Army, "not in defense of his ethical conviction but to protect his native land from being invaded."
Faulkner conceded that his middle-of-the-road position was vastly unpopular in Dixie. His fellow southerners sent him a lot of hate mail; some even phoned him at three and four in the morning and threatened to kill him.
"Do you carry a gun?" Howe asked.
"No," Faulkner said. "I don't think anyone will shoot me, it would cause too much of a stink. But the other liberals in my part of the country carry guns all the time."
When the interview appeared in the March 22 issue of The Reporter, it created a sensation. Time and Newsweek printed excerpts, including the remark about gunning down Negroes. Reporters hounded him for statements. Black novelist James Baldwin declared him "guilty of great emotional and intellectual dishonesty" in adhering to some chimerical middle of the road and then offering to shoot blacks in the streets. By then, Faulkner was sober and horrified. Surely he hadn't said that! He wrote Time that he had been misquoted. He hadn't seen the interview before it had appeared in The Reporter. "If I had, quotations from it which have appeared in Time could never have been imputed to me, since they contain opinions which I have never held, and statements which no sober man would make and, it seems to me, no sane man believe. That statement that I or anyone else in his right mind would choose any one state against the whole remaining Union of States, down to the ultimate price of shooting other human beings in the streets, is not only foolish but dangerous."
He sent The Reporter a similar denial. Unhappily for him, both The Reporter and Time published a rebuttal from Howe, who insisted that he'd recorded exactly what Faulkner had said. Saxe Commins, who was present during the interview, did not dispute Howe. Drunk and desperately concerned about his region and his country, Faulkner had blurted out things that would haunt him for the rest of his life. No wonder he thought that man's greatest curse was the ability to speak.
His only consolation was that Autherine Lucy elected not to return to the University of Alabama and almost certtain violence at the hands of its rabid segregationists; at least the country was spared the agony of something terrible happening to her. Still, Faulkner could not shake the image of crowds rioting on the Alabama campus. He wrote a prointegration student there that segregationists seemed only to function in mobs, because they were afraid to cope with problems singly and in daylight. By then, he thought enlightened college students the best hope of his embattled homeland.


There are three reference to Faulkner on civil rights in the index of "Trading Twelves: The Selected Letters of Ralph Ellison and Albert Murray." I think that this one, in an Ellison letter from Rome, dated Mar. 16, 1956, refers to the incident, although I'm not sure.:

Bill Faulkner can write a million Letters to the North as he did recently in LIFE, but for one thing he forgets that the people that he's talking to are Negroes and they're everywhere in the States and without sectional allegiance when it comes to the problem. The next thing he forgets is that Mose isn't in the market for his advice, because he's been knowing how to 'wait-a-while' -- Faulkner advice -- for over three hundred years, only he's never been simply waiting, he's been probing for a soft spot, looking for a hole, and now he's got the hole. Faulkner has delusions of grandeur because he really believes that he invented these characteristics which he ascribes to Negroes in his fiction and now he thinks he can end this great historical action just as he ends a dramatic action in one of his novels with Joe Christmas dead and his balls cut off by a man not nearly as worthy as himself; Hightower musing, the Negroes scared, and everything, just as it was except for the broodining, slightly overblown rhetoric of Faulkner's irony. Nuts! He thinks that Negroes exist simply to give ironic overtone to the viciousness of white folks, when he should know very well that we're trying hard as hell to free ourselves; thoroughly and completely, so that when we got the crackers off our back we can discover what we (Moses) really are and what we really wish to preserve out of the experience that made us.


Anyway, that's all I know. It is disturbing, but I think it's important that any biography of the man include the story. Thank you for asking and it's nice talking to you. Since you don't know me I should add a disclaimer that I'm not African American, although for the past few years, probably about half of the 60-70 books per year that I've been reading are either by black authors, about civil rights, or something similar.

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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 07:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Steve, big thanks for the info! I had never heard about any of this. More titles to add to my ever-growing Get List.

What are some of your all-time favorite authors/titles?

Nice talking to you too.
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The favorite on my list of current reads is Shifting: The Double Lives of Black Women in America.

Excellent read on how we cope with racism and sexism...a must-read for all black women.

Here is the website:

www.blackwomenshifting.com

I can't say enough good things about this book! I'll be back! :-)
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I had to put down Massey's Dark Corner for a minute - the vampire stuff was grossing me out. But I'll get back to it.

So I picked up John Edgar Wideman's God's Gym, a collection of short stores. I haven't finished it yet but I've come across a couple jewels in it already. I'm finding I enjoy short stories more lately and not sure why. Maybe just a period of short attention span or my poor brain is showing my age. :-)
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I'm reading a book of short stories called The Interpreter of Maladies by Jhumpa Lahiri, who won the Pulizter in 2000 for this collection. I have been reading A LOT of Desi (Indian) fiction lately!

This is also beautifully written and satisfies some of my curiosity about the culture!
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Im reading Mother Of Pearl by Melinda Haynes. I had to put "Arc of Justice" down because I borrowed it and had to return. I need to read Mother for a book club meeting Sun. Thanks for your take on Arc Cynique. I know its going to be a great read as I heard the author speak. Riviting.
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Rashena:

I loved The Interpreter of Maladies. Then there was another book of Indian fiction I liked, but I can't remember the title...this woman is reflecting on her childhood...her mother and father was living together but estranged...her mother has an affair...and then later in life becomes this independent woman. Can't remember the title!
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Dear Mahoganyanais, I think Interpreter of Maladies is a great book too. Another Indian short story collection I love is A River Sutra by Gita Mehta. Another one, although it's slightly controversial as it deals with incest, is An Obedient Father by Akhil Sharma.

Favorite writers and titles? Hmm. I really don't know.

It's taken me this long to finish the William Faulkner biography by Stephen B. Oates. I really enjoyed it. It puts all his work in context and gives a general sense of who he was. I now know which of his books I might like to read next. It describes his views on civil rights. He was in his late 50s when the momentous changes were taking place in the South. I was mistaken about the Ralph Ellison letter I quoted. It was most likely written in response to Faulkner's "Letter to a Northern Editor," which appeared in Life magazine and urged the NAACP and other civil rights organizations to "go slow" on desegregation. That kind of gradualism was probably not unusual for the time. Most of the people around him were segregationists, including his brother, who, according to Oates, probably planted that suggestion about a race war in Faulkner's mind. He was a terrible life-long alcoholic and his wife was probably worse. He wasn't a segregationist but seems to have been opposed to integration for reasons very similar to Zora Neale Hurston's (as described by Valerie Boyd in "Wrapped in Rainbows").

I'm reading volume two of David Levering Lewis's biography of W.E.B. Du Bois, who I consider the Towering Inferno of 20th century intellectuals. It's a long book, so I may take a few months to read it, a few chapters at a time, in between other books. And then again I may read it straight through. I'm now reading about the rivalry or the war with Marcus Garvey. Volume one was about the competition between Du Bois and Booker T. Washington. I already skipped ahead and read about Harry S. Truman's civil rights and foreign policies because the subjects came up on a history book forum.

A few novels I sampled are Palace Walk by Naguib Mahfouz, which is the first volume of his Cairo Trilogy. He's been described as the Egyptian Dickens. It seems like a very readable book. The other one I read 40 pages of is Snow by Orhan Pamuk, a Turkish writer. It's a very topical thriller-like literary novel set in a remote Turkish city and involving Islamic nationalism; the protagonist goes there to investigate a rash of suicides by young women who are forbidden to wear head scarves in school.

thanks!
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Ya'll probably won't care since I've only been reading books on writing, sales, and marketing lately. But I'm almost done with a book called "No Plot? No Problem!" by Chris Baty. It's a very entertaining and even informative book about the novel writing process from the guy who invented the National Novel Writing Month Challenge. This would be an ideal book for anyone who is thinking about writing his or her first novel.
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Steve: I'm reading volume two of David Levering Lewis's biography of W.E.B. Du Bois, who I consider the Towering Inferno of 20th century intellectuals.

Mah: Is it true that DuBois also wrote some sci-fi?

Steve: A few novels I sampled are Palace Walk by Naguib Mahfouz, which is the first volume of his Cairo Trilogy. He's been described as the Egyptian Dickens.

Mah: I just met a guy who is reading "Khufu's Wisdom" by Mahfouz. Is this part of the Cairo Trilogy? I'd never heard of him before now.

I'm reading "Out" by Natsuo Kirino (translated by Stephen Snyder). It's pretty good. Because I don't want to give anything away in case anyone else here reads it (and because I'm lazy!), I'll clip from the back blurb: "...a terrifying foray into the violent underbelly of Japanese society...a masterpiece of literary suspense and pitch-black comedy of gender warfare, Out is also a moving evocation of the pressures and prejudices that drive women to extreme deeds, and the friendships that bolster them in the aftermath."
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Mah, I think I've heard of "Out." I'll look for it.

No, it's not sci-fi! Lol! Henry Louis Gates always calls Du Bois the "towering intellectual" figure of the 20th century, I was just making a joke. I've been getting into biographies lately.

I've never read Mahfouz but I know he won the Nobel Prize and I've always wanted to read him. This time I've decided to read "Snow," so maybe next time.

Ralph Ellison is definitely among my favorite writers, although I haven't read everything he's written.
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@ Mahogany - Oooooh! Brick Lane by Monica Ali! Read that one a few weeks ago. I was just giggling to myself about the passage "Chanu examined the folds of his fleshy stomach and apparently satisfied, began speaking again." :-)

I ordered this a last week based on the reviews alone but haven't started yet...you would also really like Darjeeling by Bharti Kirchner! I found several great lists on Amazon as far as Desi fiction is concerned and have found quite a few great books that way as well!

Here is the link to the big one, Shantaram....

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312330529/qid=1108865176/sr=8-1/r ef=pd_bbs_1/103-9436503-9628612?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

I'll be back with the rest of my list soon!
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Steve, I'm wondering if you've ever read "The Life of Pi?" I liked this off-beat book, and I suspect a reader of your eclectic taste might find it interesting.
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Steve: No, it's not sci-fi! Lol! Henry Louis Gates always calls Du Bois the "towering intellectual" figure of the 20th century, I was just making a joke.

Mah: Oh! My question wasn't related to your comment. I had heard somewhere that DuBois wrote sci-fi, and I wondered if you'd read that in his biography.

@ Rashena: Is that it? Did the father in the family work for the railroad? That title doesn't ring a bell. I'm going to add your others to my ever-growing List! Thanks!
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I feel a little ashamed, especially in the company of all of you readers. But I recently discovered digital books for the iPod my husband and kids got me for a gift, and the last several books I "read" have been in that format.

Anyway, the current book I'm reading--I mean, listening to, is "Charlie Wilson's War." All the dirt we've always known about the US financing of the Afghans against the Russians, giving birth to our recent/current troubles w/Afghan terrorist groups made explicit...
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@ Mahogany - Now that I read your post again, no that's not it! LOL! That must be another title I am unfamiliar with for now...in Brick Lane, the main character has an affair and SHE is in the estranged relationship, and they have two daughters.

I am loving this Shifting book though, tonight I will probably read some more from Interpreter of Maladies and maybe start Shantaram since it's a holiday....

I also am reading Girl, Make Your Money Grow! by Glinda Bridgforth...the her second book about sisters achieving financial independence and security...

I haven't really read some of the other responses but will and will probably have even more to add!

OH! And this one too - saw it on the display table at Barnes and Noble and snatched it up: Your Negro Tour Guide: Truths in Black and White by Kathy Wilson.

A very in-your-face collection of essays about the black experience! Good stuff.
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@Rashena:

Kathy Wilson is a columnist in Cincinnati (I think), for alternative arts weekly (I think). I believe you can find her column online.
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Mah: Oh! My question wasn't related to your comment. I had heard somewhere that DuBois wrote sci-fi, and I wondered if you'd read that in his biography.

Steve: I hadn't heard that.

Loved Brick Lane, gave a copy to a woman friend as a holiday gift.
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I’m reading Pride of Carthage – a Novel of Hannibal by David Anthony Durham. It’s a BAB of 560 pages! As I’ve admitted before historical novels are my favorites and this one is giving me my fix. He’s big on detail [hence 560 pages] and does a good job giving life to the characters. I don’t even mind the military strategies and fighting – usually not my thing.
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Good for you Crystal! Tackling a historical BAB. Recently I've been trying to sort out the black reading audience and I've kinda come to the conclusion that black readers can be roughly divided into 2 categories: There are those who look upon reading as an adventure; they have broad taste and are not afraid to try something new, something that will take them to faraway places or back into history or even into another dimension. They have a curious streak, and a thirst for knowledge. They read not only for entertainment but also for enlightenment. Most importantly they will acknowledge and appreciate a well-written book whether they like a book or not. Then, - there is the other kind. They read for affirmation. They are only comfortable with what is familiar, with what portrays situations with which they can empathize and relate. They are not really curious about anything, but prefer a book to reflect life as they know it, one that doesn't make too many demands on their intellect. They especially prefer fiction with characters that they can either hate or love and "gossip" about when discussing a book with others. They don't bother to judge a book on its intrinsic merits but solely on whether or not it satisfied their preferences. However, - after I reached these conclusions which, incidentally, came from observing the cross section of readers belonging to the same book club as I do, I was left with no recourse but to shrug. That's the way of the world. Different strokes for different folks.
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Cynique: I resemble your thought on the Black Reader. I consider myself in the first group. Interesting..
Linda From Ohio
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Just finished Sinz of the Fatha by Kirk Coleman. A coming-of-age autobiographical story of a young man coming to grips with some of the same problems of colorism being discussed on the "culture" board and just family in general. He did a pretty good job of moving back and forth in time and the side stories were entertaining and well written.

Finally finished Dark Corner too - scary vampires!

Oh yea, read Pearl Cleage's Babylon Sisters too. This is the second book of hers I’ve read [I Wish I Had A Red Dress] and again something just didn’t ring true in the main character for me. NOT A SPOILER POST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS EARLY IN THE BOOK:







For somebody so smart and got-it-togetherish how did she think she could get away with not telling her also-smart child who her father is? It just didn’t fit to me.

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