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Yvette

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Posted on Friday, July 11, 2003 - 01:11 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone read anything by author Caryl Phillips? A caucasian friend of mine just finished "Crossing the River" and "Cambridge" by him. I'd like to know what you think of him. She was really impressed with Crossing the River, but stated that Cambridge left a lot to be desired. She said it was a very brutal history lesson and did too much telling of the story than showing. Your thoughts?
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Yukio

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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 08:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Yvette:

I'm reading The Final Passage. It is slow, but good...so far! I'm ya chosse wanna of his novels, let me know and i'll read it will u!
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Yvette

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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 08:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Yukio,

I have "Crossing the River" on hold at the library. I'll be picking it up within the next few days. Let me know!!!
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Yukio

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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:34 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I also have Crossing the River; i took both Crossing and Final Passage out at the same time, so when ya ready to begin, let me know. Also, let me know when you want it read, because if i don't have a date, it can take me forever to complete a book...lol! Crossing the River is about 250 pages....i have the hard cover and the font is not too small.....so i can get it done in a week, if necessary...holla!
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Yvette

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Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:54 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Yukio,

Why don't we say we have it read by August 11. That's when I return from vacation. We can discuss it after that. How does that sound?
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Yukio

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Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cool...that'll give me enough time.....and it'll takes the pressure off....have a wonderful vacation and bring me something back....if ya feel like it!
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Yukio

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Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 10:05 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yvette:

I hope your vacation was a blast! I should be done with Crossing the River by thurs., so when ya ready let me know how and when we can dialogue....

holla!
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Yvette

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Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 01:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Yukio,

My vacation was great! I didn't get to Crossing the River while I was away, but I can have it read by Thursday also. If you'd like we can just dialogue in this same thread. I'll post my thoughts no later than Friday morning. Does that sound OK? We can just go from there.
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Yukio

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Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 04:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cool beans......

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Yukio

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Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 12:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm finished. But i don't know what to say or how to say it; since i've not read it straight through, perhaps. I'm still trying to create continuity among the different parts....and i'm trying to understand the melancholy that i feel at the end story...i'm not sure what to say, but i await your reply, earnestly!
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Yukio

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Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 04:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm still not sure about the book. I can say that he definitely showed as much as he told in this piece. I liked all the stories, especially the first and the last. The first was interesting because it showed the intersections among religion, race, class, and culture, as well as the paternalist relationship between slave and master. The last one was also interesting. I wasn't sure if the woman was black or white, until she identified the soldier as a "colored." I did think she was white since she other officers told the Americans didn't no how to respond....anyways, i liked that is seemed like a sincere love story, although i can't say that i'm not much interested in "inter-racial" love....

.....anyways, i'll say more soon....
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Yvette

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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 04:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've just finished Crossing the River. I can see why it was shortlisted for the Booker Prize. The author does an excellent job of telling four stories that have similar themes, but at the same time are so different from each other. To those that might be interested, the book starts out with the voice of a man from the distant past describing the consequences of a desperate act of foolishness: selling his daughter and two sons into slavery. The story continues with the stories of those children and their descendants. He uses distinct writing styles for each segment of the novel. The characters definitely came to life for me. Yukio, my favorites were the first and the second stories. The first, mainly because of the reasons you stated and the second because I felt so close to Martha because of her obvious hardships as a slave and her struggle to make it to the "promised land." Her story was quite heartwrenching for me. Anyway, this guy can really write. I'm impressed. I look forward to reading some of his other stuff.
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Yukio

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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I liked them all actually. I think they all had a particular function. The second, i think showed that moment between slavery and freedom, love and loss; the third, exchange of property, the humanity within the slavers and the resistance among the africans.

What did u think about the ordering of the stories? And were you persuaded by the language and style in the stories stories? I suspect that you do, but i thought the second was the weakest....though i still liked the plot construction.

I really appreciate how the novel ends, particularly how we are reunited with the African who claims us, african americans, as his lost but loved children.

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