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Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1325
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 01:11 pm: | 
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A few weeks ag I watched Perry's Why Did I Get Married
I'm not exactly raving over the movie, but I found it sufficently entertaining that I would recommend it to someone to watch (on DVD).
I still have a problem with Perry's dialog and situations. They just seemed contrived for the sake of drama. For example: What man, in his right mind, would treat his wife (even an overwieght one) the way Richard T. Jones' character treated his -- this is too outrageous to be believeable.
To be more precise. It is not that men do not actually treat women this badly -- or worse, it is that they show more discretion, or couth at the financial or profession level of Perry's character. Dude this trilling would have difficulty even attracting other professional friends.
I really liked Tasha Smith's character. She was just funny. Of course she was outrageous too, but a lot more believeable: so much so she actually looked like she was just being herself.
I would give the flick 2.5 stars out of 4.
My man Kam listed Why Did I Get Married as the Best Black Film of 2007.
Even though Perry's Flick was a very decent movie, I would not put it in the same class as The Great Debaters or Talk to Me in front of Why Did I Get Married. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 762
Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 09:55 pm: |
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Troy,
I just got around to reading this thread. I've stayed from it because I am with you on Perry's flicks. I've read a few of Kam's reviews and for the most part he seems to be on point but I was blown away when I read this post. Did he really say WHY DID I GET MARRIED was better than the Great Debaters and Talk to me. Dang, I lost a bunch of respect for Kam. It's important for me to follow a critic that I respect. They've saved me money, time and frustration. I've always been a fan of Ebert & Siskel. Since ol'boy died I've been looking for someone for a balanced opinion.
Although I wouldn't put Talk To Me in my top 25 black films, it was entertaining and the acting was okay. You can't really go wrong with Don Cheadle. In fact I can't think of one that he was in that I didn't enjoy...wait...I can't think of the name but I believe he was in one in which he hid inside his mothers casket to escape the rage of a bunch of bad men *smile*. I said bad men because the movie was so corny I didn't want to ...uhh...work my brain to discribe the nonsense.
My son and I love to discuss and debate movies. He was just telling me how couldn't wait to see The Happening. I was going to tell him of the Kam review until I read his take on the Best Black Film of 2007. I'm not into those types of flicks but I was thinking about seeing it. I loved the Six Sense. Kam's review of The Happening hit on some solid points...acting, suspense, ending...
I've been entertained by Walberg as an actor. However directing seems to be king. Not only from the viewpoint of the flow and direction of the film but also of the actors. Some actors can be given full control but I think others have to be guided through the role. I don't think Walberg was even right for this part. He's a good tuff guy...good tuff cop or thug type...but this...I don't know.
I don't know if I can recover "Kam". Maybe I should read a few more of his...wait...is Kam a dude? If not, maybe that might explain the disparity!!!
Best flick...that's a shame |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1343
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 04:56 am: |
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Hey Carey, I would defintely agree you can't really go wrong with a Don Cheadle movie.
Kam is defintely a dude: http://aalbc.com/reviews/kam.htm
I still read all of Kam's film reviews -- especially the ones I think I might want to see. I defintely do not agree with him on all the reviews , but I have not met anyone who I agree with on all movies. That does not make Kam any less of a reviewer it just makes him a different human being.
Once Kam recommended The Darjeeling Limited (2007) for me to go see. I did and was disappointed. I tried to undestand why Kam and (and so many other people for that matter) liked the movie so much.
My 16 year old said she realy liked it.
I said, "the movie had no point".
She said, "...yeah but it was funny. You liked O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) right?".
I said, "Yeah, but THAT was a funny movie."
My daughter then explained O Bother had no point either and she's was right. I still can't articulate why I found O Brother a fun, funny movies and while I found Darjeeline mostly silly and boring. I think I just liked George Clooney's acting...
I was with Kam all the way on his assessment of American Gangster (2007) http://aalbc.com/reviews/american_gangster.htm Most people raved over this movie. I did not like it on several levels -- admittedly some of them were political.
I was also with Kam 100% on the movie Who's Your Caddy? (2007) which he generously gave 0 stars http://aalbc.com/reviews/whos_your_caddy.htm
Either way, I rely on several factors when determining which movie I was pay to see in a theater. But Kam is sitll one of those factors.
You know there was a time when I would go see ANY movie with a majority Black cast. Today I'm not so anxious to do that -- particularly with the advent of DVD's.
I have to give Perry credit for making Black movies on the regular -- even thoguh I disliked most of them.
There are some movies I'm going to see, in the theater, no matter what anyone says and if have to go alone: I will go see any movie in the Star Trek franchise. I will also go see the Blockbuster Marvel comic flicks -- though I usually have a luke warm reaction to those... |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 765
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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Hello Troy
I can't disagree, we will never agree on all movies.
A movie does not have to be brilliant or have a point but I can't do stupid. If funny is what we are doing than lets ride. We can really get booged down in "whats the point" and that would be a debate we would surely lose, we watch Star Trek and The Hulk *smile*. I think you pointed towards the acting. That's it, be a drama or a light comedy, the acting has to be right.
I liked Beowolf, the "acting", the dialog, the suspense were all there.
O Brother was funny, I wonder if it would have been so without the timing of Clooney...I doubt it. American Gangster was okay. I wonder if it would have pleased me if I hadn't actually experience some of drama of that day. The music even played a part of my entertainment. I can understand why many thought it was a great flick...I can't put my stamp on it....great..naw...good..yeah.
Again I realize we are not going to agree...all the time ....but I just can't let that "best of 2007" thing slip away. The Great Debator is kicking to get in my TOP 10....MY TOP TEN! So for someone to even think about adding Perry into that mix is blasphemy. YES ....B through the E to ME! Dude must have been drunk *lol*. But I'll keep/start reading his reviews. Hey, I forgave a brother that ripped my 8 track out of my ride  . It took a while but.... |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 766
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:42 am: |
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Hey Troy, one more thing. I noticed you spoke of your daughter and your disagreements with her. I can't help but think that you two might not rest on common ground on many issues. My son is a grown man and we still argue over a vast array of issues. He might even be close to your age. Know what, he even kind of looks like you. What did you say was your father's name. Are you sure I am not your mamma's babies daddy *LOL*. HELLO SON |
A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 2291
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 05:21 pm: |
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Hey Troy,
I'm just now seeing this thread...
You know this is really funny...I was disappointed with Why Did I Get Married. I didn't love it, but it was alright. I did like the part where we found out something about Janet Jackson's character's baby(I won't go into details in case some haven't seen the movie and want to)
Daddy's Little Girls is still one of my favorite TP movies.
PS Troy I want a banner on my website! |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 786
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 07:19 pm: |
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Hello A_Womon
Glad you could join in but don't be coming up in here beggin'. Yeah, acting like you wanted to join in on the conversation and then started that beggin' mess *lol*.
Crystal hit me with that one time so I thought I'd run it your way.
You still my girl though!
Carey
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A_womon
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Username: A_womon
Post Number: 2292
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 03:29 am: |
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Hey Carey Carey,
I ain't beggin" Troy asked on another thread if anyone wanted to run banners so I was just sayin I do.
How are you doing? I heard on the news yall might be running out of drinking water. Is this true? I hope you're doing okay! |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1350
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 07:58 am: |
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Carey (or should I say Dad),
I learned a long time ago my children are their own people and not miniature versions of me. We diagree on music, TV, movies -- though I attribute those differences mostly to our age difference (30 and 31 years).
Hey Awoman,
Again, Daddy's Little Girls was just too implausible a situation (characters, dialog, etc) for me to suspend disbelieve and get into the movie.
Why Did I get Married was not as implausible -- plus Tasha Smith stole the show.
Perhap "Daddy's" touched you on a more personal level?
Awomon if you want a banner on your site please read this page: http://aalbc.com/earn_money.htm then drop me an email. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 789
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 12:32 pm: |
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Hello A_Womon (hate typing that name)
I smile when you show up. I like your sense of humor, I remember that laugh of yours and I love the way you write/type all those expressions. You should try your hand at comics .
Although I live in one of the plain states, we actually have quite a few hills. In fact some of our streets are so steep, there are stair type steps to walk up them...really.
So the flooding situation is limited to lower areas. In Des moines and Cedar Rapids a river runs through them and they are having some real problems. Many other areas/town were built on the Mississippi because of the river traffic, goods, barges, coal and such. That being said, Iowa is not a state that one can travel east a west very easily. Interstate 80 runs through it and it was shut down so many had to detour over 100 miles.
I live on a hill **rich negro** no, just kidding. I do live away from the flooded areas and my only exposure to the flood is when I go to Illinois to visit family and friends. Drinking water can be a problem for some. The water plants are located on the river for obvious reasons and some protection walls have been breached. Many people have their own wells and septic tanks, they also have a few problems but for the most part life goes on as usual.
I'll tell you what's interesting. The Mississippi river runs between Iowa and Illinios. On one side of the river a city might be nice and dry. Yet on the other side one can see water for days. Why, money and politics. In 1965 another great flood hit this area, several cities said no more. Yet, others stated a variety of lame excuses way they would not build a flood protection wall. Much of it had to do with who owned the land. Farm impliment companies were kings around here. John Deere, Case, International Harvester and Catipilar are major employers. Again because of the Railroads, Interstates and waterways it was a natural setting for their companys. During the land rush all the fast thinking and fast walking white folk ran out and got all the prime riverfront...be it for business or pleasure river property can be expensive. So depending on who was spending the money and who would cover the expense of flood protection walls the walls were built or they were not and consequently we have what we have today. Some chose to roll the dice....
I am one of those bottled water drinking negros. I live on a hill, don't go on the gambling boats that are parked on the river and don't like to fish, so I am cool. Thanks for asking.
Carey
Carey |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 10078
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 03:11 pm: |
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My dilemma with Tyler Perry is he often takes on some very mature, sophisticated issues about Black life but more times than not he does such in tritely predictable and bafoonish ways.
I hope Perry eventually realizes that he's probably better off producing and financing movies, NOT writing and directing them. |
Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 1353
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 07:04 pm: |
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Abm, it is like Tyler lives in a imaginary world without a clue about how Black people actually behave.
That said I guess Perry would not be in the position to produce movies were it not for al of the flicks that he made that I don;t particularly care for...
I think we, in general, are so starved for sophisticated Black issues represented on film many Black people enjoy them.
I was in Tokyo for a couple of weeks eating nothing but Japanese food the whole time. I passed by a Johnnie Rockets and ate a hamburger -- I swore that was THE BEST hamburger I ever ate. The anaolgy holds for Tyler Perry Movies. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12329
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 07:52 pm: |
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Tyler Perry is the Dannielle Steele of the movie world. Year after year this best-selling author churns out formulaic best sellers for her millions of female fans who are entertained by what she writes. Adam Sadler and his inane flicks does the same thing for the white-boy slacker crowd. To their credit, I don't think these folks fool themselves into thinking they are doing anything other than supplying a demand and making millions in the process.
Considering how all the pap served up to the female fans of "Sex and the City" made it a box office block buster, people looking for aesthetic films of pith and substance will just have to let their good taste nuture their discretion and realize that the are members of the elite minority. |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 793
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 08:47 pm: |
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Dang Cyn-Cyn, I actually likee Adam Sadler movies. In fact I am about to watch one tonight. Does that mean I again should turn in my blackness badge and put on a pair of those slacker pants? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12331
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:52 am: |
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No, it just means that you should enjoy these simplistic movies that appeal to your funny bone rather than your intellect.  |
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