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Yvettep
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Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice interview. May sound at first like it should be filed under "old news" but the interview does include some complex thoughts, as well as nice music clips.

Jazz Musician Says Genre is Dying

Jae Sinnett loves Jazz. He hosts a jazz show on his local radio station. He's also a jazz drummer and composer. But despite his devotion, Sinnett says the genre is under siege. He explains why he believes Americans are falling out of love with jazz.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89523633&ft=1&f=46

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Doberman23
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Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 12:16 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

very interesting post, i bought john coltrane's for lovers cd last month. it just took me a while to appreciate this genre of music because i was basically engulfed in gangster rap and whatever the mainstream radio was playing but then after a while i just can't get turned on buy most new artist. all of a sudden i started listening to talk radio and then old school r&b and smoother types of music.
lol maybe i am just getting old.
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Yvettep
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Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 07:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, your tastes are just getting refined. LOL! You should listen to the Marcus Miller concert/interview on th =e other music thread I started. I think you'd enjoy it.
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Cynique
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Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 02:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was an interesting interview. As the musician explained, jazz is very structured music that you have to be schooled about in order to know what to look for and appreciate in a performance. Not only is jazz artistic but it is esoteric.

When it comes to music, most people are looking for something to syncronize their pulse beats with, something that will make them want to dance or snap their fingers or sing along with. Jazz originated with black people and now they have deserted it because it evolved into an activity that engages the mind more than the spirit.

This is along the lines of what has happened to baseball. Pundits are lamenting the fact that black kids are losing interest in baseball, and that there are very few black players in the major leagues nowadays. They have all deserted the "great American pass time", and embraced the sport of basketball. We all know why. Baseball is a very slow, methodical game involving rituals and signals and mind games between the batter and the pitcher. Whereas, basketball is a fast and exciting game, - a show case for dazzling skills, and a spectacle that supplies instant gratification. And so it goes.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was an interesting interview. As the musician explained, jazz is very structured music that you have to be schooled about in order to know what to look for and appreciate in a performance

(Nonsense. The original jazz--Dixieland and swing was meant to be DANCED to.

The Beboppers wanted to be LISTENED to and they removed jazz music from the dance floor.

Jazz died right after the fusion resurrection.

It is now museum music.
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Cynique
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Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:54 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Didn't I say that: "Jazz originated with black people and now they have deserted it because it evolved into an activity that engages the mind more than the spirit." All you did, chrishayden, was to dispute what I wrote and then proceed to say the same thing I did.
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Troy
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Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Doberman23 I guess I must be 10 to 20 years older than you -- 'cause I went through that transition about 15 years ago.

I was interesting how Sinnett described a rap video with an upright bass, trumpet but the music actually being played was all synthesized.




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Yvettep
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Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 11:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy, I found that interesting as well. (BTW-Does anyone know what video he was talking about?) It is as if images of jazz are being appropriated for their cool factor, but not the deeper musical tradition.

But having said that, I would have loved to hear his opinion about hip hop artists who are trying to actually integrate jazz into their work (and vice versa).

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