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Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3075
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:17 am: | 
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I'm sure many of you have already heard of his new book. Is Elders correct or is his message one sided and misleading? His mantra is : "Why race-baiters and hacks who call themselves "black leaders" –- and their white allies -- are the worst enemies of black Americans". Discuss.......
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12033
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 02:52 pm: |
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Yes, a case can be made for the idea that the black underclasses are exploited by black leaders who use these "have-nots" to promote and perpetuate a need for their leadership. And of course white liberals enable black victimhood by stifling the incentive for Blacks to help themselves instead of depending on the government to give them a leg up. But - the situation in America is such that it's easier for deprived people to figure out ways to milk The System and get it to aid and abet their lack of ambition or ability. The reason these underachievers are inclined to do this is because instead of improving social ills, the government is too busy financing wars that benefit profiteers - too busy giving tax cuts to the wealthy, - too busy bailing out big corporations who flouder because of greed and mismanagement.
I am assuming that Larry Elder is advising black folks to emulate what he has done to become successful. Since he can't whip em, he's joined white folks and has made a good living at being a lap dog for white conservatives, telling them what they want to hear. I don't know what he has to say about the black middle class but any black person who is able to achieve this status in America is not somebody to be called "stupid".
As for playing the "race card", doing this is a tactic and when you are involved in a game of strategy with your adversary, then you sometimes employ methods to put them on the defensive and throw them off balance while you fall back and re-group. IMO. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6963
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:09 pm: |
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The only true knowledge is knowledge of one's own ignorance (Socrates). But most people don’t have that. Instead EVERYBODY has a theory.
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Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 1116
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:52 pm: |
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The Elder Principle simply strengthens the likelyhood that "white" America isn't as bright as it's made out to be. Last I checked, the white "lower class" (e.g., the lunch bucket crowd who are so [uh] dumb, they make even Jethro Bodine look like Einstein) are still trying to tell the difference between the Negroes in the ghetto and the Latinos in the Barrio, so to speak. But then again, when's the last time you saw a "brotha" on the TV show Jackass? |
Arioso_hum
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Username: Arioso_hum
Post Number: 45
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 09:14 pm: |
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Larry Elder is Black? Seriously?
I am a Republican (and I really like Barack Obama :'0 ) but I feel queezy listening Larry Elder. Here is Elder's plan in a nut shell *I am going to borrow some words from Michael Eric Dyson*:
He seeks to flamboyantly fulminate the Negroidial Democratic constituents (whom have obviously incurred his disdain). He apparently believes that by castigating their dearth of knowing "what is best for them" it will in turn make him look like a brilliant Black toad waiting for a kiss from the fair maiden.
Sorry I slipped up towards the end, but typing like that is tiresome. How does he do it?
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Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 1231
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:58 pm: |
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man after 12033 posts i still don't see how your able to be so consistently so smooth and on point. much love to you cynique. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12038
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 02:18 pm: |
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Thank you, Dobes!  |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 6577
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:59 am: |
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Larry Elder Bites the Big One! |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3086
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:41 am: |
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Larry Elders is no different than those so-called black leaders he rabidly condemns. He claims they inflame and exacerbate tensions between the races and exploit situations that may or may not have racial overtones. Not saying that they don't, but it is somewhat ironic that a man who makes a living harshly criticizing his own race, condemning white liberals who openly support or encourage black issues, remains completely silent and refuses to address whites for their unapologetic racism and ongoing systemic discrimination in America. Elder's is committed to directly addressing the "needs of white conservatives". They need an imbued Machiavellian Negro to assure them the concerns of black people should not be taken seriously. Why should they? They are no more than warrant-less whining and perpetual complaining. Besides, "we've given them welfare, affirmative action, the NFL and NBA is mostly black, they have Oprah, BET, rap music and they still want more!" Lawn Jockey Negroes like Larry Elders (and Ward Connerly), are no less than personal masseuses for white conservatives, echoing their beliefs and concerns.
To be fair and honest, there are numerous things that Elders says that I do agree with. I have no problems with those particular messages. But were he and I part, is his message is directed and tailored specifically for ultra white conservatives -not blacks nor moderates of other constituencies. It is white conservatives with seething resentment and a longstanding ax to grind with blacks who he patronizes. If he had parity in his messages, as harsh as it may be, I would have no problems with it. But that is not the case. In his world (and his supportive white conservatives), black people and white liberals are the malignant cancer that is adversely affecting the well being of America. It is stupid black men and patronizing white liberals who are the core of extreme socioeconomic inequities and festering racial wounds in America -not longstanding institutions of exclusivity, racism, sexism, economic disparities do to race and class, unfairness in the sentencing guidelines for drug convictions, omnipresent "white affirmative action" and good ol' boy networking, etc, etc... The aforementioned is not only mythical propaganda by the so-called race hustling black leadership and their white liberal supporters -it doesn't even exist! This what Elders (and his white conservative disciples) would have us to believe. Therefore it is not worthy of discussion.
I'm not suggesting Elders should not hold black people accountable nor should he make excuses for reckless self destructive behavior. Not at all. But he should temper his blistering campaign against blacks and white liberals with contributing and underlying factors that exacerbate the negative conditions of the black underclass. Something that is noticeably absent for his anti-black rants. He should also take the time to talk to black people (since they are the object of his scorn) and not always his cheering white conservative fans who will never challenge any of his diatribes against blacks. But figure the odds of that happening. Why would he alienate his white conservative supporters? They're paying his bills.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 12110
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 01:10 pm: |
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True dat. |
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