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Ntfs_encryption
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 09:46 pm: | 
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Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
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14 March 2008
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday denounced inflammatory remarks from his pastor, who has railed against the United States and accused its leaders of bringing on the Sept. 11 attacks by spreading terrorism.
As video of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has widely aired on television and the Internet, Obama responded by posting a blog about his relationship with Wright and his church, Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, on the Huffington Post.
Obama wrote that he's looked to Wright for spiritual advice, not political guidance, and he's been pained and angered to learn of some of his pastor's comments for which he had not been present. A campaign spokesman said later that Wright was no longer on Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee, without elaborating.
"I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies," Obama said. "I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Reverend Wright that are at issue."
In a sermon on the Sunday after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, Wright suggested the United States brought on the attacks.
"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."
In a 2003 sermon, he said blacks should condemn the United States.
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
He also gave a sermon in December comparing Obama to Jesus, promoting his candidacy and playing down Clinton.
Questions about Obama's religious beliefs have dogged him throughout his candidacy. He's had to fight against false Internet rumors suggesting he's really a Muslim intent on destroying the United States, and now his pastor's words uttered nearly seven years ago have become an issue.
Obama wrote on the Huffington Post that he never heard Wright say any of the statements that are "so contrary to my own life and beliefs," but they have raised legitimate questions about the nature of his relationship with the pastor and the church.
He explained that he joined Wright's church nearly 20 years ago. He said he knew Wright as a former Marine and respected biblical scholar who lectured at seminaries across the country.
"Reverend Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life," he wrote. "... And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn."
He said Wright's controversial statements first came to his attention at the beginning of his presidential campaign last year, and he condemned them. Because of his ties to the 6,000-member congregation church — he and his wife were married there and their daughters baptized — Obama decided not to leave the church.
Obama also has credited Wright with delivering a sermon that he adopted as the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."
"With Reverend Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good," he wrote.
Also Friday, the United Church of Christ issued a 1,400-word statement defending Wright and his "flagship" congregation. John H. Thomas, United Church of Christ's president, lauded Wright's church for its community service and work to nurture youth. Other church leaders praised Wright for speaking out against homophobia and sexism in the black community.
"It's time for all of us to say no to these attacks and to declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends," Thomas said in the statement.
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Robynmarie
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 10:03 pm: |
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What took so long for Senator Obama to throw his "mentor" under the bus? Are we supposed to believe overnight he "denounced" a man who has been his friend and pastor for 20 years!?!
This is a disaster for Senator Obama. Even if what Rev Wright says is marginally true. I thought Senator Obama understood that black people and white people see things differently. Isn't that why he his campaign is designed to bring people together? He'll have a hard time selling that cock and bull now....
As we speak the media is trying to dig up a video clip with Senator Obama and or his wife in church applauding the right Rev so they can play it ad infinitum. If they do, it will be the beginning of the end of this particular "movement".
Americans can forgive sex scandals and a lot else. What they don't forgive is a lack of patriotism real or imagined.
Senator Obama can't blame Hillary for this. It is pride that goes before the fall... |
Tonya
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Post Number: 6815
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 10:19 pm: |
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Whiteys are mad as hell on these web sites. I’ve never seen anything like it. This is bad. They're cutting up like we did over Imus.
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Robynmarie
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"God damn America" ??? Is the Rev serious? |
Tonya
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.....Serious as a heart attack. But I don't understand--how is that racist? He's an American citizen speaking against his country. Unpatriotic, maybe…...But, racist?..…Label me confused as hell.
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Robynmarie
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Not racist. Just foolish and inflammatory for someone running for POTUS to support.
When will folks learn that the way they speak when they are among "family" sounds and feels a lot different with the whole world listening?
Non African Americans think any mention of race is racist. Senator Obama will have a hard time living down his "guilt by association" issues. |
Tonya
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Okay, there's a clip where he contrasts Hillary and Barack in racial terms that are somewhat harsh. I would not call him a racist or anything equatable, but he does refer to certain stereotypes in ways that can be perceived as racist.
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Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 12:08 am: |
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...They just showed it on CNN a few minutes ago. |
Cynique
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Why the uproar?? All Jeremiah Wright did was yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater... |
A_womon
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This is BS. Obama is not his pastor. Why is he expected to control everything people around him say lest he be found guilty too?
Leave is to America to reduce the best and most progressive thing this country has seen---a woman and a black man running for president---in a hundred years to a matter of race. Sheesh! |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 10:31 am: |
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What a bunch of sissies.
Oba MA! Oba MA! Oba MA! |
Yvettep
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Has anyone read Audacity of Hope? His chapter on faith is one of the best reflections on the topic I have ever read. I really have an understanding of how he has approached faith, and its role in his development of social, political, personal and racial consciousness. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 11:01 am: |
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Has anyone read Audacity of Hope? His chapter on faith is one of the best reflections on the topic I have ever read. I really have an understanding of how he has approached faith, and its role in his development of social, political, personal and racial consciousness
(Don't try to insert some reasonability and logic into this. Tonya, Cynique and Robyn want to have a conniption fit.) |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 12:40 pm: |
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You can't blame this one on Clinton or her supporters, homey! This one's out of our hands...in fact, it's the one thing that I for one wholeheartedly agree with him on. I've got his "change" now!!! ...and I'm loving it!!! Yes we can!!! So don't blame us or Hillary, Blame the Republicans!
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Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 04:59 pm: |
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chrishayden is the last person in the world to invoke the subject of "logic" when, to him, a reasonable argument is to call people negroes and heifas. (poor ol crissy is still trying to reconcile himself to the idea of Obama being the epitome of what the dreaded Bill Cosby extols.)  |
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