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Tonya
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 01:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11



Obama's Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Has a History of What Even Obama's Campaign Aides Say Is 'Inflammatory Rhetoric'

[Video] Is Obama’s Pastor a Liability?
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1

By BRIAN ROSS and REHAB EL-BURI
March 13, 2008—


Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism."

In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.

Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.

Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon. "The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification," Obama said in a recent interview. "It sounds like he was trying to be provocative," Obama told the paper.

Rev. Wright, who announced his retirement last month, has built a large and loyal following at his church with his mesmerizing sermons, mixing traditional spiritual content and his views on contemporary issues.

"I wouldn't call it radical. I call it being black in America," said one congregation member outside the church last Sunday.

"He has impacted the life of Barack Obama so much so that he wants to portray that feeling he got from Rev. Wright onto the country because we all need something positive," said another member of the congregation.

Rev. Wright, who declined to be interviewed by ABC News, is considered one of the country's 10 most influential black pastors, according to members of the Obama campaign.

Obama has praised at least one aspect of Rev. Wright's approach, referring to his "social gospel" and his focus on Africa, "and I agree with him on that."

Sen. Obama declined to comment on Rev. Wright's denunciations of the United States, but a campaign religious adviser, Shaun Casey, appearing on "Good Morning America" Thursday, said Obama "had repudiated" those comments.

In a statement to ABCNews.com, Obama's press spokesman Bill Burton said, "Sen. Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they're offered from a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church. Sen. Obama does not think of the pastor of his church in political terms. Like a member of his family, there are things he says with which Sen. Obama deeply disagrees. But now that he is retired, that doesn't detract from Sen. Obama's affection for Rev. Wright or his appreciation for the good works he has done."
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 02:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,"

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people..."

"...God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."



LOLOLOL, I can't argue with that!, lol, so I'ma say this right now. IF Obama gets the nomination, I'ma swing my support fully behind him, because some elements of him DO remind me of Malcolm...plus I really like his wife Michelle a whole lot. It'll be nice to have a homegirl in the Whitehouse. BUT until the nomination is announced, he's unpatriotic and his sexist behind is DOGMEAT.

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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 02:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 02:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"BUT until the nomination is announced, he's unpatriotic and his sexist behind is DOGMEAT."

I'll be easing up a little tho. And he can thank his pastor for it. LOL
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 01:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I'ma swing my support fully behind him, because some elements of him DO remind me of Malcolm...plus I really like his wife Michelle a whole lot. It'll be nice to have a homegirl in the Whitehouse..."

And that's why you still my girl, boobee!!!! HAHAHAHAH!!!!
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 02:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Me and a lot of other Blacks wouldn't argue with what Jeremiah Wright rants about, just as tons of white folks relate to what Geraldine Ferrero prates about. And that's what's becoming the problem. Little by little, racial polarization is creating a rift in the Democratic Party.

I'd like to hear somebody's opinion about just why Barak or anybody else would even want to be President of this broken-down country.

The idea that Obama is going to heal this nation is wishful thinking. His term in office will be comparable to a chronic hang-over resulting from his having become intoxicated with the liquor of power.
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 02:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This video is reportedly spreading like wild fire all over the internet. Forget about Hillary. Obama's biggest problems are turning out to be Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright, because his affiliation with these 2 controversial figures is going to tarnish his electibility in a race against the staunch white patriot John McCain. The Republicans are just lyin in wait, ready to open up this can of worms.
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 05:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with Jeremiah Wright AND Geraldine Ferrero, and I bet most Americans, regardless of color, agree w/the both of them also, if they're being honest with themselves, at least to some extent.

I'm flattered A_womon, but I'm still behind Hillary 100%. If Barack gets the nomination, he'll have my full support. Or if he decides to run on a Clinton-Obama ticket, it would be an excellent way for him to gain the experience and toughness I think he needs to beat the Republicans in 2016.
(I'm still not convinced he can win the general right now.)

It'd be a shame if this Reverend Wright thing happens to be the thing to take him out, or worse, damage his chances of running with Clinton in November. I hope neither one of them are limited by anything Wright or Ferrero have said.
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 06:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh it's cool Tonya, I feel the same way, I will vote for Hillary if she wins the democratic nod.Though I'm not sure she can beat McCain. The only other choice we have is not to vote at all and that is the same as a vote for McCain and we all know its time to end the rouge Repulican rule.
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 06:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I still support my man OBAMA 100 per cent too!
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your "man" ooh, la, la, do tell! LOL!!! Don't let Michelle hear you! :-)
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 08:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

SHHHHHHHH! Be quiet girl! What Michelle don't know won't hurt her! HAAHHAHAHA!
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i knew when i saw this on tv that tonya's bisquit headed ass was going to be posting it. tonya it doesn't matter still, he is going to beat hilldawg and you shall owe me $50 :-)
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Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 10:27 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hahahaha! Ole Pastor is a pistol, ain't he?

How long should we make Tonya eat booty around here after the election? Five years? Ten?
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Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 10:30 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This video is reportedly spreading like wild fire all over the internet. Forget about Hillary. Obama's biggest problems are turning out to be Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright, because his affiliation with these 2 controversial figures is going to tarnish his electibility in a race against the staunch white patriot John McCain. The Republicans are just lyin in wait, ready to open up this can of worms.

(Ah the President of the Trembling Kneegrows Association issues another communique.

It's a tempest in a teapot.

Oba MA! Oba MA! Oba MA!
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Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 01:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Listen as crissy, the clueless cheerleader, tries to execute a cart wheel and falls on his face. That sound you hear is the roar of the spectators in the visitor's section as the home team's quarterback fumbles the ball.
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Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why would Senator Obama try to pretend he never heard Rev Wright preach? He was just asking to be contradicted.

Obama Attended Hate America Sermon

Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:14 PM
By: Ronald Kessler
Newsmax.com

Obama claims he was completely unaware that the Reverend Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ targeted “white” America.

Contrary to Senator Barack Obama’s claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.


Senator Obama has sought to separate himself from his pastor’s incendiary remarks, issuing a statement Friday rejecting them as “inflammatory and appalling” but failing to renounce Wright himself for his venomous and paranoid denunciations of America.


In his press release, Obama claimed, “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity [United Church of Christ] or heard him utter in private conversation.”


Appearing on cable news shows this past weekend, Obama claimed when he saw recent videos that have Wright making such comments as “God damn America,” he was “shocked.” Obama implied that the reverend had not used such derogatory language in any of the church services Obama attended over the past two decades.


If Obama’s claims are true that he was completely unaware that Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ has targeted “white” America and Israel, he would have been one of the few people in Chicago to be so uninformed. Wright’s reputation for spewing hate is well known.


In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama. [See: ”Obama’s Church: Cauldron of Division.”]


In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.


Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”


Obama’s most famous celebrity backer, Oprah Winfrey began attending Wright’s church in 1984. Last year, Newsmax magazine reported that Winfrey abruptly stopped attending years ago, and suggested that she did so to distance herself from Wright’s inflammatory rhetoric. She soon found herself a target of Wright, who excoriated her for having broken with “traditional faith.”


The Reverend Wright’s anti-white theology that Senator Obama expressed surprise over is evident on the church’s website. The site says the congregation subscribes to what it calls the Black Value System, which is described as a disavowal of “our racist competitive society” and the pursuit of “middle-classness.” That is defined as a way for American society to “snare” blacks rather than “killing them off directly” or “placing them in concentration camps,” just as the country structures “an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.”


“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” Wright wrote in the church-affiliated magazine Trumpet four years after the attacks. “White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”



The Relationship Unravels


Senator Obama now is attempting to minimize his long and close relationship with the controversial minister.

On Friday, John McCain’s campaign distributed a Wall Street Journal op-ed “Obama and the Minister” written under my byline based on my reporting for Newsmax going back to early January of this year.


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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:44 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sure Jeremiah Wright, who is currently out of the country, never thought his words would come back to haunt him in such a manner as to besmirch the image of Presidential candidate Obama. This minister could write a book entitled: "The Audacity Of Hatin".
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 04:22 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why would Senator Obama try to pretend he never heard Rev Wright preach? He was just asking to be contradicted.

I guess this is the same reason Hillary keeps pretending she's gonna release those tax returns...

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