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Yvettep
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/16376801.html

Well, well, maybe being in the kitchen is the place to be.

By throwing the kitchen sink - and then some - at Barack Obama the other night, solutions-not-speeches candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton rose from the dead in power red.

Adoring throngs of women chanting "Yes, she will" cheered their sister on as she vowed to win back the family home. You know, the big White one.

My house was quiet. The kids were sleeping safely. And then my phone rang. I picked it up, after the first ring.

"Every time I look at Hillary, I can't shake the feeling that she reminds me of all the white women who have ever mistreated me in my life."

That would be my 50-something friend, Tina, calling from Dallas.

Apparently flashing back to some of the white women bosses and coworkers who held the door open for each other - and slammed it on her.

Thirty years later, she is still getting training, working on that make-or-break experience. Like Hillary, 35 years could be her magic number.

Tina cut to the heart of why many black women haven't overwhelmingly cast their votes in bra-burning solidarity for the "Lifetime of Experience" candidate.

I've heard that same resentful sentiment expressed by plenty of other older black women. I guess we're not the ones they're talking about when they refer to Hillary's core base being older women.

Women's liberation didn't lift up black women. It helped keep them down.

Picking up the slack

"During the feminist movement of the '60s, white women were saying they deserved to work outside of the home. But their men didn't pick up the slack at home," notes Melissa Harris-Lacewell, professor of politics and African American studies at Princeton University.

"Black and brown women did."

Truth be told, the blue-collar candidate is anything but.

"Hillary Clinton likes to cast herself as an outsider candidate, but the truth is, she is a woman of privilege who is connected at the hip to the [former] president of the United States," Harris-Lacewell says.

Which means a woman in charge doesn't necessarily mean women win. My friend Tina could testify to that. Well, me, too. "African American women recognize that as long as politics is old-school run, we will always lose," she says. "The only way we can get a true hearing is to change the way politics is done."

For all of Gloria Steinem's gripes that gender is the most restrictive force in American life, black women know better.

Black and female come with their own challenges. And then there's that "third burden," argues economist Julianne Malveaux in the National Urban League's recently released "The State of Black America 2008" - being connected at the hip to the all-too-demonized black man.

The report once again finds black women the poorest, sickest, least insured, least educated and most likely to get slapped with a foreclosure notice.

So who can fault a vote for hope? But it's a nasty four-letter word, when Hillary gets on a mocking roll.

Faith in the choir

Yes, many of us did give her the "Oh, no, she didn't" arched brow when she mocked the celestial-choirs kind of hope that Obama inspires.

"Celestial choirs is what got my grandmother through," Harris-Lacewell says. "It's what got all of our grandmothers through."

But hope doesn't necessarily come in a color or gender.

Campaign director Maggie Williams, an African American, answered Hillary's call for help and righted her house just in time. That doesn't make her any less black.

And just because Oprah's an Obama supporter doesn't mean she's any less woman.

Comparable policies aside, maybe what it really comes down to is a gut feeling. A father who takes time off the campaign to take his daughters trick-or-treating, as Obama did, resonates as much as universal health care.

Or that he flies in just for an anniversary dinner with his wife, Michelle - herself an empowering image for all women.

"Here you've got this brilliant, Ivy League-educated, light-skinned black man who chooses as his wife an equally smart, dark-skinned black woman who is almost as tall as him," Harris-Lacewell says. "That makes me feel he cares about who I am as a black woman."

For a segment of the nation so long invisible, "You look at Michelle and you're like, 'Yes! He sees me.' "

While he holds open the door.

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Cynique
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 02:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, Hillary Clinton is not somebody her black female contemporaries can identify with. She is, indeed, a female paragon of white entitlement.

And I would also add that black women have never felt that their men held them back, or are they adverse to the idea of being placed on a pedestal by them, - all of which is why sistas never filled the ranks of the feminist movement.

Hillary's secret weapon remains her white contemporaries. Whether there are enough of them to make a difference remains to be seen.

And I continue to find it interesting how black women view Michelle. Her appearance is filtered through their vision of themselves. I still don't consider her a "dark" skinned" woman. To me, she is light brown.

And I guess because I was never around white women who could pull rank on me, I never looked upon Michelle as a symbol of "pay back". To me, she has a ball-bustin vibe. And so it goes.
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Tonya
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 03:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Every time I look at Hillary, I can't shake the feeling that she reminds me of all the white women who have ever mistreated me in my life."

That's a psychiatric problem. A SERIOUS one.

It doesn't matter if it's Hillary, or Barack, or the poor struggling single Black mother with 5 kids. If by looking at somebody you judge them according to what somebody else did, you're a danger to your society, your people, and you ought to be in some sort of therapy.

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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"If by looking at somebody you judge them according to what somebody else did, you're a danger to your society, your people, and you ought to be in some sort of therapy."

Wow! That was good. I'm shocked. But I agree 100% with your comment. I've never been excited with the idea of hating someone for no other reason than being a member of a group you have personal issues or a history of conflict with.

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Tonya
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 09:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You could have kept that to yourself, asscracker. Under no circumstance do I want someone like you agreeing with me. I'm pretty sure you know that, fucking turd.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 01:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If by looking at somebody you judge them according to what somebody else did, you're a danger to your society, your people, and you ought to be in some sort of therapy.

(You do it all the time.

You ain't black. I don't even know why you got in on this thread)
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 01:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If Tonya ever got a look at you, chrishayden, she would change her mind about first impressions. One glance would confirm that you are as idiotic as your posts are.

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