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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 6399
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 01:36 pm: | 
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Tonya, you screwed up again.
Obama, Hillary in Civil War
Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:39 PM
By: Newsmax Analysis Article Font Size
With Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's decision to stay in the Democratic race to the bitter end, she has signaled a delegate fight all the way to the party's convention in Denver this August.
Both candidates appear in something of a stalemate.
Political strategists have concluded that Clinton cannot overcome Sen. Barack Obama's pledged delegate lead by winning additional primaries.
And despite his lead in electoral and delegate wins, Obama cannot seal his nomination without the support of the party's superdelegates.
Clinton's decision, after winning in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island this week that she would not capitulate has opened up the first skirmishes in a looming Democratic civil war.
Already the intraparty battle -- described by the Boston Globe as "trench warfare" -- has cost the Democrats a whopping $275 million. The war has no end in sight and is shaping up to be a take-no-prisoner's battle.
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Cash: Both sides are now swimming with the ammunition that politicians need to wage war. Obama announced this week that he raised a stunning $55 million in February. Clinton hasn't matched those numbers, but she is playing catch-up. Since Tuesday, she raked in a cool $3 million.
'Monster' Hillary: Obama foreign policy aide Samantha Power told Britain's Scotsman that Clinton is "a monster . . . she is stooping to anything" and described her circle as being on the "warpath."
Ken Starr: Clinton's campaign lashed out at Obama Thursday, accusing him of becoming another "Ken Starr" because he promised to be more criticial of his opponent. The Obama campaign has complained Clinton has dragged her feat in releasing her tax returns and her documents as first lady.
Florida and Michigan. Both the Obama and Clinton camps are deadlocked on the matter of the Florida and Michigan delegates. Party Chairman Howard Dean says he wants a new vote in those states but he won't use party money to pay for it. That benefits Obama, because Clinton would have likely won those states in a re-vote. If Dean and the Obama can keep the current slate of Florida and Michigan delegates off the convention floor, Clinton's position is further undermined.
Black Revolt: Influential African-Americans like Donna Brazile, Al Sharpton and former Virginia Gov. Douglas Wilder are warning that the Democratic Party may be fractured and crippled if it does not abide by the will of the pledged delegates in picking the nominee.
Meanwhile, the fraternal struggle among Democrats may be netting Republicans support.
Former Bush strategist Karl Rove notes Thursday in The Wall Street Journal "the interesting electoral phenomenon is the emergence of the 'McCainicrats' -- Democrats backing Mr. McCain."
Rove continued: "In three recent polls, (Fox, LA Times/Bloomberg and Gallup), almost twice as many Democrats support Mr. McCain as Republicans support Mr. Obama. Three times as many Democrats support Mr. McCain as Republicans back Mrs. Clinton."
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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6759
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 07:14 pm: |
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Hey, if Obama can't "bring people together to get things done" then certainly he should think about dropping out. That’s the centerpiece of his campaign, his number 1 campaign promise. If he’s not the uniter he promises and claims to be (and it appears he's not) he ought to step down. We need someone who says what they mean and who can deliver on their promises.
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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6760
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 07:45 pm: |
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Do The Right Thing Barack Obama
Step Down
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Robynmarie
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Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 727
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 08:46 am: |
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^^LOL
The Superdelegates are the people who will decide the nominee. It's their party and they'll choose the person they think is most qualified regardless of the pledged delegates.
BTW, remember John Kerry had nearly 90% of the black vote and he still lost. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 6763
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 01:59 pm: |
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BTW, remember John Kerry had nearly 90% of the black vote and he still lost.
So true. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 10015
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 02:36 pm: |
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Robynmarie,
The fallacy in your assertion is it implies that Hillary has a chance of getting the votes that Bush got to surmount Kerry's getting that 90% of Black votes which any sane person knows she does NOT have a snowball's chance on the especially HOT side of hell of getting.
If you believe Hillary can beat a REPUBLICAN without getting a HUGE number/percentage of Black votes I'm going to suggest you not miss your next scheduled psychiatric examination. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 11834
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 06:40 pm: |
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As much as Obama zealots want to judge everybody by themsleves, among the millions of black people eligible to vote, not every one is going to become a turn-coat and go for McCain, or are they going to sit out the election. Who is to say that a smaller black participation will not have a significant impact, taking into consideration the Hispanic and Asian vote, something Obama zealots are apparently in denial about. |
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