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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 01:23 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

I'm sitting at a computer with one of those big ergo keyboard so I decided to write a decent size post since although my hands and fingers do feel a little funny typing on this keyboard, I find that I type faster on it.

First, I'm so excited that I finally got my copy of Albert French's latest novel, Cinder. Cinder is the sequel to Billy. I just started the book a couple of hours ago and already I feel the cracks from my shattered heart that I thought should have long healed, which I got after reading Billy, starting to open up again. The book opens with the town waiting for the train carrying Billy's body back home to be buried during a bad rain storm. OMG, I believe I'm in for another ass-wiper on this one.

Second, it took 2-3 weeks for me to get Cinder because Cinder is being published in the UK! The price of the book is listed in the English pounds, not dollars, on the back of the book. I purchased my copy through Amazon.com. I know that some of you get your books through the library. I don't know how successful you will be on that one, but try it and see. Let me know how it goes. Remember if you get it the book online remember to use the links on the site. So, now I guess, this type of book, AA books other than gangsta, has now gone underground? What a freaking shame? Anyway, when I get done, I'll let you know how it went.

Earlier we were talking about music. Well today, I was in a Donny Hathaway mood. I know some of you, especially the young folks like A_womon, don't know who Donny Hathaway is. Well Donny Hathaway is probably the most influential, highly underrated male singer of this and the last century. When you hear all of the young male singers today and a decade ago, they all tried to sing like Donny, except Donny didn't sing through his nose and do all that off key vocal acrobatics. Anyway, last year, Rhino (God bless em) released a CD that covered a couple of Donny Hathaway's live performances. Now these performances were previously released a couple of decades ago as Donny Hathaway Live and In Performance. Those two CDs are very hard to come by so both have been reissued on the CD, Donny Hathaway - These Songs For You (Live). The CD also has four previously unreleased tracks on it. I'm telling you all of this because its BEAUTIFUL! All that talent! Damn, Carey, I STILL MISS HIM!!

Last year also saw the first time on CD release of Donny Hathaway's soundtrack to Come Back Charleston Blue! Carey, Cynique, yawl remember that one! The soundtrack still sounds fresh! Donny was GENIUS! I had to buy this one as an import as well! Why is all of our good stuff available oversea but not here?

See, I'm not really into male singers. There are those that I love, but I'll give a female singer a play before a male. There are a few exceptions, Prince, Al Green, Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, BB King, James, Aaron Neville, Sam Cooke, Louis Jordan and Nat King Cole...but Donny, Donny is probably my favorite! So, if you don't have these two CDs or Donny's three studio albums: Everything is Everything (with the most soulful version of Misty that you will ever hear); Donny Hathaway (Classic classic greatness); and Extension of a Man (An album way before its time), get them!

I'm out!
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 07:27 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thumper,

I know Donny Hathaway--used to hear his song playing every single Christmas

"Hang all the mistletoe
I'm gonna get to know ya better...
This Christmas!
And this Christmas will be
A very special Christmas
for me!"

Chris Brown did a remake of it in a movie last Christmas season. His version was decent, but I still like Donny Hathaway's version better than anyone else's.
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have a copy of "Cinder", Thumper and I'm having mixed emotions about it. So many critics talk about how a book is supposed to "show instead of tell", and I'm distracted by the ambiguity of this story because - it's "telling" in the process of "showing". As I thumb through its contents I see page-after-page of dense narration, told through the eyes of a third person who speaks in a folksy vernacular, engaging the reader in a "conversation" that that leaves nothing to the imagination.
So far, the "plot" isn't really grabbing me. It's too dreary. I guess I need to get into the flow of the story and find a particular character to empathize with.

Donny Hathaway committed suicide, didn't he? That fact and his Christmas anthem are what I know most about him. Did he collaborate with Roberta Flack on some songs? Frankie Beverly was more my speed.
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 01:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Back in the late sixties Hathaway's The Ghetto ruled at many a house pary I went to. It did not get much airpplay on NY radio stations back then. When his first album came out in 1970-71 I had to have it. A classic. I have most of his stuff on vinyl except for that first album which a friend loaned to a friend who lost it while travelling in Europe. I've got it on cassette now. That Charleston Blue soundtrack is also a killer.
By the way I've just started Albert French's I Can't Wait On God. When I get some bucks together I will order Cinder
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 01:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he collaborate with Roberta Flack on some songs?



Best.
Duets.
Ever.
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 01:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thump, how could you not include Luther???? I'll have to pull your card for that one. You can not, CAN NOT say Aaron Neville and Prince and not say Luther, that's blasphemy!

Don't get me wrong Prince does his thang, I am a big fan of his, but NO, don't you ever do that again. You are on probation! I feel you on the male singer tip, but I still have my favorites as well, Will Downing is one of mine.

Donnie Hathaway, MAN, you had to bring up old memories. Man, his song, the one about friends/old lovers meeting again, that just grabs me. BIG Hathaway fan, how did you know? He used to tear-up those big apple hats. Cynique hit on another of my favorites, his song with Roberta Flack (she could blow).

Cynique, what you know about Frankie Berverly and Maze :-). Frankie has a sound, a groove, women seem to just love him. I swear that man must be 100 yrs old. I remember listening to him back in the early 70's **don't Thump**. That reminds me Thump, are you still dying your hair? Have you thought about extentions?

A_womon's list has some of my favorites. Do you think she really knows anything about Donny? I think she's interloping *lol*. That woman, A_Womon, she makes me smile.

Yep, I see a Hathaway night on the horizon.

Prey for me, I am going on a trip this weekend and my son is coming along. He's my guy, we are going to do a little father and son bonding. Here's the script, he's driving. Yes, Andre 3000, Twister and Lil'Wayne will be blasting. I told him that we should switch-up. He said he wasn't trying to fall asleep at the wheel *lol*. I said I was old and wasn't tryin' to go deaf. On the real though, some of the lyrics are cool, they can be deep but that bass makes me feel like I am in an Earth Quake or war zone *Boom-BAM-BOOM-BOOM-RATTLE-RATTLE BOOM*. I swear, if we don't reach some sort of compromise, he might go to the restroom and come back to find his stuff smokin' **opps, spilled a little soda :-( :-)**
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 01:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carey, have him play Lupe Fiasco's latest. Should please both of you. Be safe. :-)
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 01:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*LOL* @ Yvette, she broke out the album *smile*. Yvette is cool.

I agree Yvette, I thought long and hard and Donny & Roberta Flack hasta come out on top. Marvin did a few with a few.

I'd be interested to hear who others think are near the top?
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 01:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yvette, I am still trying to absorb Thump's suggestions from the other night. I don't know, he's on probation, that Lizz suggestion was ahh, well it didn't hit me. Her voice wasn't smooth enough. He knows I don't always have to have "smooth" I like Etta James but Lizz was... it just wasn't me.

Okay, I got my money on you! Now, what's the setup, what am I going to be listening to?
I think what I will do is introduce the cut to him as a listening experience for him and I. But I have to bring it with passion (You know, the hard-head son thang).
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 02:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thumper, Donny Hathaway is way up there on my favorites. Carey Luther while a prodigious talent never moved me the way Donny could. I can't really explain why. Perhaps he had what simply called "Soul"

Others I'd put in the Hathaway column include Al Green, and Sam Cooke, as Thumper mentioned. I'd also have to add Marvin Gaye.

Ray Charles, and Stevie Wonder of course.

Carey, in my opinion Luther was a superb vocalist with a great instrument and many hits. I however would put Donny and Sam in a category above Luther.

Thump, I noticed French's (http://aalbc.com/authors/albert.htm) latest was not available here in the US --- I looked and was rather suprised...
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 06:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy, I hear you, I think all the men mentioned have hit me in different ways, maybe that's it. I can't argue one bit about you guy's selections, nope.

To be truthful it's been a minute since I've listened to Donny but that's going to change after today. I know what it is for you old farts. See, Luther plays to the romantic in me. Yawl don't know nothing about that. When I hear Al and Sam Cooke it's soul,it's feel good but doesn't hit the lovere in me :-). See, you two dusties don't know to much about sloooooow love. That's what it is :-). Don't get me wrong, Al Green opened a few doors but me & the women love some Luther.

You know what Troy, I'll get back with ya. You know I have a bad habit of running my mouth and later have to come back and take my foot out of it. Hey, I hope I come back with sounds of joy.

Thumps on probation.
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 07:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

I got to give a big OOPS on the male singers! I did leave Luther off the list by mistake. I thought I had mentioned him but I didn't. I love Luther I also forgot to to add, as Troy pointed out Marvin Gaye. You all know how much I love Marvin, why I got all 59 different versions of the limited, limited deluxe, etc of What's Going On! I also unintentionally left off the list the big O, Otis Redding! Now you know Otis is probably one of the few where his live albums are just as good if not better than his studio albums. I must be on the same crack Wendy Williams is on, because the three I didn't mean to leave off, I have their entire available output. I did not mean to leave Luther, Marvin or Otis off my list.

Cynique: You po thang. Yes, Donny killed himself. As Yvette points out, he did do an album of duets with Roberta Flack. If I'm not mistaken they were in the middle of collobrating on a second album of duets when he died. And then how could you forgot that he did the theme song to the Maude sitcom. *big smile* I bought a CD of sitcom theme songs just to get his "Here Comes Maude".

Carey: I'm going to give you some leeway here because I did forget Luther, Marvin and Otis. But lets not get carried away with ourselves. Prince is the man. And why you trying to forget that I had to pull your coat on Etta James!! You know you didn't know nothin about Etta till I told you. Why you sittin over there Fruit Loopin in front of all these people, I declare I don't know. OK...Cynique, he's all yours. I'm steppin up out of the way. *big smile*

The best duet album ever is Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway. I sho hate that Aretha and Ray Charles didn't make a duet album otherwise...
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 07:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hummmm. When I think of male vocalists, Prince never comes to mind. To me, his falsetto voice would never lend itself to anything that he, himself, didn't write, so it was just a part of his total package.

I liked Marvin and Sam Cooke OK, but I won't even mention the male singers from my era who I really dug, because you folks have probably never heard them. And of course, I'm in danger of being banned from the board, if I list Frank Sintara as being among my favories. Come fly with me.

Da dee dum - Arthur Prysock, Billy Eckstein, Nat Cole, Joe Williams...
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 11:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thump, I noticed French's (http://aalbc.com/authors/albert.htm) latest was not available here in the US --- I looked and was rather suprised...

Troy, do you mean "Cinder"? I got it...I don't believe it came from an overseas seller.
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Bobby Womack, Al Green for soul and Peabo Bryson for pure voice. Teddy Pendergrass for everything else.

All around Sammy Davis, Jr. dance, vocals, instruments and acting. It's amazing how seldom his name comes up.

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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 12:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, Sammy Davis was a great crooner in the great 1950s tradition of ballad singers, not to mention his being able to swing in the jazz vernacular. He did a great album with Antonio Carlos Jobim.
I forgot to mention that I also like Luther and for pure raw soul, Ray Charles.

BTW, my copy of Cinder came from the the UK.
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 12:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm...I investigated and mine came from the UK as well even though booksellers is "awesomebooksusa". But it appears that there are sellers with it in NY and NJ...I wonder if that's an error.
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Well Well Well, Ol'Hen81 came in with a surprise. I have to agree with him. Peabo seldom is mentioned but that used to be my boy. See, when I think of an artist from that era, I am sort of like Yvette, the album cover first comes to mind. Peabo broke out in this all white suit. And of course he was wearing his "Baby Holmes" (AFRO). . Yes sir, Peebo had some cuts. Didn't he do "feel The Fire" before Rick James?

But lets really stop playing around. The voice award goes to Luther HANDS DOWN! It's not even close. For quality, range, control, there was no one better, PERIOD. Sure Teddy had his thang. OHHH, he had it going on **Turn off the lights and light a candle**, come on, who didn't play that. Now prince wouldn't be called a singer, but he had his on touch, he is an entertainer. I just ain't sold on Sam Cooke. He had his spot but it's not at my top. Now, if we are talking voice quality, then I think Cyn-Cyn pulled one out, Nat King Cole. This discussion is much like Magic vs Bird and Russell vs Chamberlin, you can't go wrong.

I gotta throw in Howard Hewitt and Luther Engram. Them boy wasn't no slouch.

Thump, stop it, so you pulled MY coat on Etta James. Boy, I had dinner with Etta, used to call her Sweet E.

Am going to shake this up a little. Now don't raise your hand if you really don't know but when I think of female voice and range......

Has anyone ever heard of Minnie Ripperton?
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 02:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dang, I got all caughtup running my mouth and forgot why I even came here. Well, Donny Hatheway is on my box RIGHT NOW! See, I can't have Thump up in here....ahhh, talking like he's good as gravy. See, the boy.......

Hold up Yawl, Donny is just about to do Stevie's Superwomen. ***mmmmph mmm mmm*** I can't talk!!!
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DAMN IT! I gotta stop visiting this damn board. I forgot how good Donny Hatheway was. Sh*t, I am hooked like a fat carp. I can't go to sleep. I didn't even remember his piano skills! The boy got me! Fk you Thump :-).
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Does anyone know, who was the bass player on his Live, Little Ghetto Boy?


WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED!
Where, how did our music get away from us. I just listen to "To BE Young Gifted And Black" and just shock my head, I wanted to cry.
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Has anyone ever heard of Minnie Ripperton?

Stop playing, Carey. ;-)
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I believe it's Riperton, not Ripperton. Funny thing is that her brother Ray, a trombone player I played a few gigs with back in Boston, is listed on album credits like this one as Ripperton. Maybe he got tired of y'all misspelling his name and he changed it. Naturally, you're hip to Rotary Connection.

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Minnie, of the high octave range, was from Chicago. She, also, died too young and too soon. I've heard that Mya Rudolph from "Saturday Night Live" is her daughter. Right, FK?
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Yes, that's correct, Cynique! ;-)
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 10:53 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When I think of male vocalists, Prince never comes to mind. To me, his falsetto voice would never lend itself to anything that he, himself, didn't write, so it was just a part of his total package.

Cynique, you're skating on thin ice with me, gal! LOL :-) Actually, Prince has quite a range, though he is probably better known for his falsetto. I have to disagree with you about his covers. I love many of his covers better than the original versions by the original artists. Many of these are by female singer/songwriters, interestingly enough. Also, his covers in concert cannot be matched by many artists, IMO. He can go the full range: classic R&B, funk, rock and roll, folk...

You all have mentioned some great male vocalists. Though I never got into many on your lissts. (For example, I just could never see the appeal of artists like Bryson and Pendergast.) I'd have to say Marvin, Al, Donny, Luther, Nat and Stevie are somewhere in my top 10. (And of course, Prince :-)) No one has mentioned Bill Withers or Ronald Isley; they'd be in there, too, for me. Then for my final one? Hmmm... OK, don't throw anything at me, but Ima hafta say...




Barry White!
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 11:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Refresh my mind, Yvette. What covers did Prince do besides "Betcha by Golly, Wow"?
Yes Prince did have quite a vocal range and a good ear for harmony, putting out one record where the vocalizing was like a choir with him singing sorprano, alto, tenor and bass. But, to me, Prince usually acted out his songs rather than SANG them.
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 11:04 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now, what's the setup, what am I going to be listening to?

Well, you may already be on your way, Carey, but here are a few thoughts about Lupe. When he first came out I did not rush out to buy his stuff. I loved his work on Kanye's album. But I figured he was just a bunch of hipster-hype (kinda like Gnarls Barkley) and refused to drink the kool aid. But then I heard some of his other collaborations (w/Jill Scott and the guy singing the hook on Superstar) and I decided to check him out.

I love that many of his topics are not the same ole same ole. He tends to be on the nerdy side, which also appeals to me (as a nerd myself :-)). His skills as a rapper are incredible by any standards. Measured in what the kids call "flow," he is very smooth and articulate. He is clever as well, and can turn a phrase like nobody's business. But in addition, his songs tend to be more along the lines of poetry or spoken word in their cohesiveness and storytelling.

Besides lyrically, musically his raps are very well done. The samples are not obvious and the instrumentation is often lush and layered.

On his new one check out the first single ("Superstar"), as well as "Paris, Tokyo," "High Definition," "Little Weapon," "Gold Watch," and "Dumb It Down."

And that concludes my (non-paid) advertisement for Lupe Fiasco's The Cool. LOL :-)
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Cynique, I'll do you one better: You can listen to some here: http://blog.lib.umn.edu/perry032/impossible/prince_revolutions.html

:-)

Re: Prince usually acted out his songs rather than SANG them.

Yes, you do have a point here. Partly I think this is because he has not always been as serious as his abilities would lead me to think he'd be. I think a part of him really wants to be the Morris Day jokester/fool character he largely created. Also, though, I think the best vocalists use their voices as an instrument. Many of the ones we think of as particularly melodic (e.g., Luther, Nat King Cole) model their voices on the piano or maybe the trumpet. I think Prince, understandably, models his on the electric guitar. Which means that he screams and screeches and growls and postures as much as he sings.

Just a theory!

(Where is Mzuri and her wealth of Prince knowledge when I need her! :-))
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 11:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ouuuu Weeeee, I have to jump in here, I am about to leave with my son but so much information. Quickly, I have to agree with Yvette, Prince has range. He did a slow jam (cover) but dang it, it's not coming to me....Do Me...Do Me Baby? But I like what he did to Dorothy Parker (sp). Ya gotta look at all his stuff.

Barry White! "Playing Yo Game Baby", quit it Yvette *smile*. I knew there was a lover in you. (Sunday Morning *wink*)

Man, I thought I was dropin' a little something on Ripperton>>>>Riperton. Is that right, Mya Rudolph is her daughter!?!?

Steve: Rotary Connection! Man, that's when I first heard her. I thought her voice was some kind of musical instument, I couldn't believe it was human.

I gotta stop coming here, I can't seem to get anything done hanging out with yawl.

Next: My son and HIS music....*gasp*!
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 11:32 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique: I believe Prince contributed to a Joni Mitchell (love her!) tribute album. He and Terence Trent Darby both list her as one of their greatest influences. James Brown was another of His Purple High-Heel-nesses influences.

*checking*

Prince covered Joni's "A Case of You", and also "Creep" by Radiohead. And I *think* Tevin Campbell recorded "Shhh (Break It Down") first even though Prince wrote it.

I'm sure there are others.

*more checking*

http://www.coversproject.com/artist/prince/

(a list of songs covered by Prince, and Prince songs covered by others)

Y'all can thank me in mojitos. ;-)
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay Yvette.....I gotta get out of here!

Okay, I just read your last post. My son has heard of Lupe. He agrees with some of your opinions. He even sang to me some of his stuff. See, again, I "thought" I was bringing something new to the table. Yeah, I am working on get fiasco on the play list. We will see.

THANKS, AM GONE.

Carey

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Hello All,

Carey: Like my grandmother use to tell me, Just do as I say do! Yes, Donny is all of that! He does not get the props I believe he should. Listen to I Love The Lord, He Heard My Cry on Extension of a Man. The whole suite is gorgeous! Now, his live recording of A Song For You...if I could reach back in time and slap him, I would.

And what you have we heard of Minnie Riperton? Have you lost your mind! Yes, I've heard of Miss Minnie. The shame is that it seems not a lot of people have. It's difficult to get any of her older stuff. I have 2 CDs of her, one a very good compilation but that's it. Although I love her voice and how she sang, I wasn't all that crazy about the material she chose.

And you know good and well you didn't know anything about Etta.... I even had to drop Esther Philips on you and you thought it was raining outside.

I did drop Nat King Cole name. I love that man. Now he was smooth! Voice like ice cold chocolate milk on a hot summer day! And his piano skills, like Donny, isn't given enough credit either.

Steve S: Speaking of smooth: have you ever heard of a Sarah Vaughan album called Sarah+2. Oh man, I have always loved Sarah, but this is a REMARKABLE album!
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 01:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Esther Phillips even known as "Little Miss Corn Shucks"?
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Hello All,

Cynique: I don't know. I can't find anything that indicates she was, but that doesn't mean she wasn't. The only singer that came close to that, to me, was LaVern Baker, who was at one time Miss Sharecropper.

Joni Mitchell is a major influence on Prince. Prince has covered other folks material. Thanks FK for the list you provided. There are a couple of wrong listing on the list. How could Prince cover a song he WROTE. But, that's neither here nor there. I have more than a few of bootlegs of Prince's rehearsals and all. I didn't know anything about bootleg recordings so when I saw an interview of Prince warning about bootlegs, I stopped buying them.

His first OFFICIAL cover recordings are on his Emancipation (3 CD set). He did four covers: Betcha By Golly Wow, One Of Us, La La La (Means I Love You), and I Can't Make You Love Me.

Prince's vocals are excellent, especially when he does his own background vocals, like the Adore record. And remember D'Angelo's Untitled (How Does It Feel) hit? How many of us, on the first time of hearing it, thought it was Prince. A couple of years ago, Shanice tried a comeback with a record Every Woman Dreams which sounds like Prince.
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Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 01:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK Esther Phillips was at one time known as "Little Esther". I was getting her mixed up with Little Miss Corn Shucks who was a contemporary of Ruth Brown.

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