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Thumper
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Username: Thumper
Post Number: 540
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 10:14 pm: | 
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Hello all,
As some of you know, I love Italian Faulkner. I went on a 3 year hiatus from reading him. Now that I'm done with school, I couldn't help myself, so I read a few short stories, and decided to read Sanctuary. Chris, I know that you love Faulkner as well as I do! *202* For those of you who don't know, T have what could be called a passion for Faulkner. Since Sanctuary isn't to thick, I picked it. Talk about a cheap, low rent novel. Sanctuary is the story of temple Drake, a Mississippi debutante, who is raped and kidnapped by Popeye, a black thug. isn't really black (he was burnt in a fire when he was a baby. Anyway, Popeye is a damaged psycho. He was very short, not fully matured. He actually raped temple with a corncob. When he kidnapped Temple, he held her in a ho house. And because he couldn't perform (he didn't mature that way), he arranged for a man named Red to "make love" to Temple-while he watched, Ea slobbering and moaning at them. By now miss Temple done had enough and started setting folks up to be shelled and Popeye to be convicted for a murder he didn't conflict. And the state of Tennessee hung the skit out of him. Popeye was a stone cold trip.
Aint that just about the cheapest story, and I loved IT! Then this was just about the easiest Faulkner book I've ever read. |
Nom_de_plume
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Username: Nom_de_plume
Post Number: 93
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 01:20 pm: |
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Oh my! I recently bought his Collected Stories but have only read the first handful so far in favor of the more contemporary ones I've been asking about lately. I'll get back to it sometime this week, maybe this evening! |
Thumper
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Username: Thumper
Post Number: 541
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 01:39 pm: |
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Hello All,
Forgive the errors in my above post. I just bought a new convertible laptop. I was trying out the laptop using it as a tablet PC and I wrote the post in long hand and the computer transformed my handwriting into type. The computer is still getting use to my handwriting. |
Thumper
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Username: Thumper
Post Number: 542
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 02:04 pm: |
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Hello All,
Nom_de_plume: It's good to hear that you are reading Faulkner. I love him the hell out of him! I have been reading some of his short stories sporadically. Right now, I'm in his Collected Stories re-reading Barn Burning. Barn Burning was the first story I read by Faulkner and it was in an English Literature class. I've been hooked on Faulkner since, which is strange because Faulkner brings new meaning to the term "run on sentence". When I get down with it is that I'm about to tackle his Snopes trilogy.
But, I highly recommend Sanctuary. Now supposedly Faulkner wrote Sanctuary for money, because his previous books, i.e. Sound and The Fury, wasn't selling. Sound familiar *eyebrow raised*? So, he wrote Sanctuary as a pulp fiction. I thought while I was reading the book, man, how can I get my hands on some of those old cheap pulp fiction books from the 20's and 30's, especially if they have storylines like Sanctuary. I love books with that sort of juicy storylines and it is wonderfully told. |
Cac
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Username: Cac
Post Number: 9
Registered: 01-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 02:54 pm: |
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He's a lot more human than Hemingway, though Hemingway would say "Shit--humans are creatures of sweat, pain and struggle." Something crazy like that.
Hey what is up with Black Issues Book review these days? |
Thumper
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Username: Thumper
Post Number: 545
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 09:57 pm: |
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Hello All,
Cac: I totally agree with you. I read a few Hemingway stories and frankly, I dont get it but thats neither here nor there. Faulkner and Fitzgerald are two of my all time favorite authors, so I pretty much stick with them.
I don't know about BIB. From my understanding I don't think that they are in business anymore. I could be wrong. If someone knows, please enlighten us. |
Nom_de_plume
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Username: Nom_de_plume
Post Number: 94
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 10:23 pm: |
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Is Barn Burning the first story in the book? I think that was the first I read aside from the ubiquitous A Rose for Emily. That father was NUTS. LOL
Right now I'm on a serious Gayl Jones kick, I'm almost finished with Eva's Man and will start The Healing and then Mosquito after that! I'll read some more Faulkner when I get home tonight. I forget about all the great books I have because I have so many so it's wonderful to see threads started about those I should get back into at once! |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7172
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 11:50 am: |
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If I had William Faulkner here I would give him a Jesse Jackson style circumcision. |
Nom_de_plume
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Username: Nom_de_plume
Post Number: 95
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 03:06 pm: |
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LMAO you are funny as hell! But I feel ya. Alice Walker has great essays on him and Flannery O'Connor both, I think in the book In Search of Our Mothers' Gardens.
(Or is she another that deserves a clitoridectomy?)  |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 909
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 04:54 pm: |
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Hello Nom_de_plume
I'd like to hear your opinion of the ending to Eva's Man by Gayle Jones. I ask because if I remember correctly the ending was somewhat .....well, I'll just wait. Lets see, In the book isn't the female character involved with a man? I think the relationship was strange. Again my memory is vague but I remember it being a dark kind of setting. Maybe a bar scene???
Although I've read Gayle Jones, I don't know much about her. Wasn't there some major drama in her life? |
Thumper
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Username: Thumper
Post Number: 549
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 07:57 pm: |
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Hello All,
Chris: I am so glad to see that the love you have for Faulkner is still bright and shiny! *big smile*
Nom_de_plume: I haven't read A Rose for Emily. I was going to finish the Barn Burning and then dive into The Snopes triology (The Hamlet, The Town, The Mansion). But, I guess I can do a quick detour and check A Rose for Emily. I answered your post concerning Gayl Jones in the short story thread.
Carey: There was some drama in Jones' life, but its been so long, I done forget all about it. It's been years since we read Eva's Man. i'm going to have to get it down and refresh my memory on that ending. |
Nom_de_plume
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Username: Nom_de_plume
Post Number: 97
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 11:42 pm: |
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Carey - the ending to the story was just as convoluted and insane as the beginning and the middle and I loved it! Basically she is the classic example of an unreliable narrorator but yet the most honest ones I've read at the same time. To her, the men ARE all the same and that's why she gets them confused, they all preyed on her and made her burrow into herself to where she was almost catatonic or lash out to psychosis. That shit was ILL. LOL
Here's an extensive NYT piece on her and her personal problems right when The Healing was published. Great yet troubling read - her husband stabbed himself in the throat after a police standoff to where the knife was stuck in his SPINE!!! I wonder what she's up to now?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B07EFD91331F93AA25754C0A96E95826 0&sec=health&spon=&pagewanted=all
Thumper - I'll check out a few Faulkner stories tonight. I need a break before I start The Healing, Eva's Man just freaked me out, yet I loved it. Going back to the short story thread now! |
Carey
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Username: Carey
Post Number: 913
Registered: 05-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:00 am: |
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Nom_de_plume
"Memory is a mosquito/pregnant again/and out for blood"
"Everything said in the ending must be said better than in the beginning"
That's the joy of this site. Had you, Thumper and others not arrived here I would probably never have read thoses writings.
That article alone was filled with so much inspiration. Without explanation, I believe you may know what I am talking about. Conversely, my explanation would not do justice to the depths it touched me nor speak to the gifts her writings bestow upon you.
Thanks for the insight to Eva's Man. After reading the article and your posted opinion, which refreshed some of my memory, I searched and found my copy. It was a done deal. The cover alone closed the chapter. I think you nailed it.
Carey
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Nom_de_plume
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Username: Nom_de_plume
Post Number: 99
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 09:43 pm: |
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You're welcome! I was so enamored with her writing and so I Googled around and read almost everything I could find on her. Her stuff seems VERY autobiographical, contrary to what some of her friends thought.
And there are stories in White Rat that talk completely about dating and marrying a psycho, and even one written from HIS point of view. Absolutely stunning stuff. You have to get that book at the very least! LOL |
Thumper
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Username: Thumper
Post Number: 552
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 08:01 pm: |
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Hello All,
Nom_de_plume: I read A Rose for Emily. I LOVED IT! The ending wasn't a shocker, it was surprising, a rather pleasant, chuckling, surprise. But, I'm a huge Alfred Hitchcock, Twilight Zone fan and watcher of the new Chiller Network. I agree that Emily's daddy was not and probably pushed Emily's cheese right on off her cracker. But, what gets me is that she got her hands on an openly gay man. I felt a little sorry for her. Dang, where's all of those white southern gigaloo's that Tennesse Williams always wrote about, why didn't one of them call on Miss Emily? *LOL* |
Crystal
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Username: Crystal
Post Number: 428
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 01:35 pm: |
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Thumper – what the heck do you have me reading man? Yeah that Popeye has many issues but Virgil and Fonzo ain’t the smartest peas in the pot are they? And there’s a perfect example why people shouldn’t drink at funerals – watch out the coffin is falling folks!
I haven’t read any Faulkner in Years. Didn’t think much of the ladies did he? |
Thumper
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Username: Thumper
Post Number: 559
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 06:10 pm: |
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Hello All,
Crystal: *LOL* I forgot all about the coffin falling. *LOL* That was a good one. Well, one of the reason I like Faulkner is he is the great equalizer. If there are some black folks who think we can get into and stay into some hot ghetto mess, read Faulkner, he'll straighten it out for you and show you just how low rent and low down white folks can get. man, if you think that that was something, I'm in the middle of one of his novel where an mentally handicapped caharacter is in love with a COW! Yep, I said it, a COW! |
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