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Nafisa_goma
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 05:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To All:

Kola Boof receives roughly 30 email per week
from this board asking what she's doing and
telling her what's going on here.

There's been some reporting about Kola Boof's
future on the board by Enchanted, half of it
correct and half incorrect.

We don't hold that against you Enchanted, because you've been a surprising defender of Kola, but we'd like to clear up a few things.

First--I have not been fired, Enchanted. Kola and I are very close friends and I will always
play a part in her life and career.

Kola's next book is called "Love Hangover" and
it's a love story set in Manhattan.

Kola's novel "Sexy Part of the Bible" is being
released by a N.Y. house---but that one is not on Viking Penguin.

Kola has 4 new books coming out and they're
not all on the same house.

She has a non-fiction book of essays coming
called "Our Hair Wasn't Meant to Be Combed".

None of these books have been entered into
"listings", because they've barely just been
sold and have to complete the Editing process.

Her novel "Virgins In the Beehive", however,
has been cancelled (or postponed), because her
new agent doesn't want to represent Hip Hop titles and feels that type of book is beneath
Kola.

"Long Train to the Redeeming Sin" is also set
to be repackaged by one of Kola's new publishers.

All of Kola's new publishers are MAINSTREAM houses in N.Y.

One will cover her Commercial Fiction ("Love Hangover"), another her literary fiction and
another her non-fiction.

Only her upcoming poetry collection is on
Door of Kush.

That's all I know and that's all I'm allowed
to share.

Finally, the ridiculous rumors about Kola sleeping with "anybody's husband" are untrue.

It's obvious that Kola really dislikes Zane
after their confrontation--Kola makes no secret
of that and there are many in the industry who
completely understand why, since the two women
have never met and never known each other.

However, Kola has moved on and doesn't have
time for foolishness regarding Zane or anyone else.

Kola has many enemies and wants to make positive
changes in her life. She wants nothing to do
with all the people who wish her to fail and spread gossip and lies about her.

Something that many on this site have done.

Kola thanks all her supporters at AALBC.COM who email her what's going on and ask about what's going on with her.

Her popularity at this site is such that she
can't ignore it, and she owes much of her early success to this site and to people associated here.

Kola asks that people not believe anything that's
posted about her career moves unless it's from
myself or her or a Rep from one of the publishing houses.


Nafisa Goma


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Cynique
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 07:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enchanted send email to me and say kola is lie and just try to make self look good but she same old self promtor cause nobody on this board ever defend her but me and abM. stil jes mad cause Zane tol truth bout virgins in beahive no good.I try and take up for kola and this the thak you I get. I hate to tell but nafaisa goma is her. and she aint get no 30 emails a week either. Just another lie from kolas big mothu. She the same as ever was.



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Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 02:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a contract with a TRADITIONAL, advance and royalty paying NY publisher is exclusive and you cant sign with other TRADITIONAL publishers while you're under contract with one. RIGHT????
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Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 03:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Where ya been, a_woman? How's Lambd? Did you two hook up and elope?
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Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 04:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HAHAHHAH! Hi Cynique, No, just busy doing book stuff! Got two more books to write under contract, so I'm feeling the pressure to get book two finished.
No, me and Lambd aint hooked up...YET! HA! He busy, I'm busy. So we aint made it happen. I figure if it's meant to be it will ain't if it aint I'll always call him a friend!

I stop by the corner from time to time, but I don't post because as you well know, once you start posting it's hard to stop! HAHAHHA.

MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR CYNiQUE, to you and yours. BE SAFE!

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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 01:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

a_womon you dont know much about publishing do you? yes you can be under contract t omore than one house if one house dosn't want all your books dozens of writers have done with differnt types of books Now I see what she ment about people wishing bad on her but karma wins so I'm glad for kola an whats funny shes one of Lambds 3 favorite writers hes stated that many times on this board not to mention he sent her flowers an think shes hot stuff remember? :-)
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 06:53 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Author Tip: The Non-Compete Clause
Most publishing contracts include language to prevent the author from writing a similar book for a competing publisher. The language undoubtedly differs from publisher to publisher, but the intent is the same.


Grant of Rights

Here the author grants the publisher the right to publish the work, as protected by copyright law. For most authors this means The EXCLUSIVE worldwide rights, including all derivative works, etc. While it's not in the interests of the author to give up anything without negotiation, the publisher is frequently in a better position than the author to exploit these rights (such as publishing translations), which will result in further payments to the author. If the author believes the work is likely to become a smash TV hit or the next big Christmas toy, the derivative rights could be the plum of the book contract

The Author represents and warrants that, except as previously disclosed to the Publisher in writing, the Author has not aided in the preparation of AND IS NOT UNDER OBLIGATION TO ANY OTHER PUBLISHER or person to prepare any publication directly competitive with the Book, or which could interfere with his or her performance of this Agreement or interfere with or impair the sale of the Book.

NON-COMPETITION - The Author agrees that so long as the Book remains in print, the Author will not participate in the preparation or publication of, or allow his or her name to be used in connection with, any work which might compete with the Book or the exercise of any rights granted Publisher hereunder. The Author may, however, draw on and refer to material contained in the Book in preparing articles for publication in professional journals, for teaching purposes, and for delivery at professional meetings and symposia, provided appropriate credit is given to the Publisher and the Book

I could go on. This is information that is in the public domain. It is not legal advice given by me. So STFU KOLACHANTED and quit putting bogus information out there.

The bottom line is no reputable publisher is going to allow an author to publish similar books with another publisher that will compete with a book they've pulished with you because it COULD cut into THEIR PROFIT MARGIN!
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 08:44 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey A_womon, long time, no see!

Your posts of 12/15/07 2:21p and 12/16/07 6:53a are two different matters.

An author can simultaneously be under contract with more than one publisher. In fact, it's not uncommon for two diff publishers to release diff formats of the same book; one publishes the paperback and the other publishes the hardcover. It's not uncommon to have an American publisher and a European publisher for the same book.

It goes deeper than the non-compete clause and essentially comes down to a question of what rights did the house acquire. For instance, my publisher owns First World English Print rights to my novel. So no other publisher in the world can print my book in any English vernacular while I'm under contract. But there's nothing to stop me from selling German print rights of my book to another publisher. Or Japanese. Or Ewe. Or French... By selling English rights to one publisher, German rights to another, electronic rights to another, hardcover rights to another, paperback rights to another, Spanish rights to another, audio rights to another, Russian rights to another, etc, etc, etc - an author could have 20 different publishers for one book. You follow what I'm saying?

It all comes down to what rights did the publisher acquire, and that supercedes any non-compete clause. No publisher can tell any author what to do with rights the publisher never procured; and an author would be a fool to turn over all rights to a work to one publisher. I don't give a damn if the publisher is RH, HC or S&S or any of "The Big Six" - NEVER sign over all rights to a work to ONE publisher. Now, even the Big 6 attempt to pull what's known as a "rights grab". That's where they try to take all rights to a particular work. And so many writers are so desperate to be published, especially by one of the major NY houses, the writers go ahead and sign it all away to one publisher. That's a no-no. I mean, didn't they mama tell 'em never put all yo' eggs in one basket?


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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 12:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes US I know about rights and retention of various rights, thats why a new author should hire a reputable agent who can navigate through standard publishing contracts and negotiate a good deal that doesn't "put all of your eggs in one basket". HOWEVER, my post was in response to Kola stating that different NY houses were releasing different books.

Soooooo US give me a name of a well known writer who has simultaneously released different books with NY houses and the titles of those books please. Then I will stand corrected. And I'm not talking about RIGHTS, hardcover, or paperback, etc. I'm talking BOOKS. And note the key word is simultaneously(while undercontract with one NY house.) :-)
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 06:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pathetic ol "enchanted" has to shift into a playground mode, childishly taunting a_woman by putting a kola spin on half-truths about Lambd. In his most recent appearances on this board, Lambd was asking why kola was calling herself Nafisa Goma.
It's quite convenient to have access to kola's diary, isn't it, "enchanted"? It certainly helps that you are privy to every single aspect of her life when rushing to her defense. Wanna titillate our imagination about how kola likes it doggie style? Of course you probably don't have to consult her diary about this. You are probably right there on the scene, waiting to join her in a threesome or - in the real world, alone in the bed with a vibrator. Right, "enchola"?
Well, so much for comic relief. Back to the publishing seminar.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 06:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon, why you insist upon attempting to engage me in a pissing contest I really don't know.

Bottom line: Kola/Nafisa is right! An author can have diff books published by diff publishers simultaneously. That has nothing to do with the non-compete clause. You don't have to take my word for it; especially since it's obviously not good enough for you. I suggest you invite your agent to lunch and have him/her explain each and every clause of your contract to you in layman's terms. Better still, hire an intellectual property attorney. It's too late for you to change anything with regards to the contract you've already signed, but maybe you'll be a bit more industry savvy next time around.

Now, whether or not Kola/Nafisa is telling the truth about having diff upcoming books released by diff publishers I have no idea. But she is correct in stating that an author can do just that.

A_womon, you're confusing the non-compete clause with a book deal. You may have a three-book deal with the same publisher along with a first refusal clause (heaven forbid!), whereas Kola may have single-book deals with multiple publishers and no first refusal clause. Therefore, the non-compete clause would have no bearing on her situation - EXCEPT, she can NOT submit the SAME book to be simultaneously published in the SAME format by diff publishers. NO ONE can do that. That's essentially what the non-compete clause means. (The first refusal clause means that you must show any new works to your publisher (editor) and give them a chance to acquire it or reject it PRIOR to attempting to sell that work elsewhere). But can Kola (or any other author) have book deals for various books with multiple publishers to be released either simultaneously or within weeks or months of one another? Absolutely. It happens everyday in the industry. Ask your agent.

Everyone here knows that I'm the last person to defend Kola/Nafisa, but when she's right she's right. Does she really have these deals in place? I can't say one way or the other. But could she have these deals in place? Yes, yes, and yes. Again, ask your agent. That's why you're paying him/her 15%.

Do publishers like it when authors have multiple deals with multiple publishers? Not usually, as this works more against them than for them. For instance, your book sales with Publisher A may be lagging while your sales with Publisher B may be skyrocketing. But that may cause your readers who bought your book by Publisher B to now purchase your book by Publisher A. That's a good thing, yes? No. Well, for you, but not for Publisher A or B; because now you have another work you want to sell, so Publisher A and B are at each other's throats trying to buy the rights to that book - looking to cash in on the success of your book with Publisher B. Now both publishers are in a bidding war to make you a ridiculous offer on a book that may or may not sell-through. Remember, contracts are drafted in favor of the publisher's best interests, not the authors. Publishers aren't trying to invest any more money or time or resources into your book (or any other) than absolutely necessary. You, the author, are looking for the gravy i.e., royalty payments. Your publisher's priority is recouping their investment. Now if your publisher shelled out a six-figure advance, it's going to be that much more difficult to recoup their investment; hence the non-compete clause.

Word to the wise: Stop looking at the industry as a writer. Legally, the relationship between publisher and author is a business-to-business relationship. Act like you know.


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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

First of all US, who is trying to engage whom in a "pissing contest"? Your problem is you can't stand it because I don't treat your answers as if GOD has replied, ok? I've stated this before, you may be knowledgeable about the industry, but that sure in the hell doesn't make you above question, by me or anyone else. AND other industry professionals don't always agree with what you espouse on this board.
I asked you for a name and a NY publisher that has signed an author while under contract. With another publisher YOU say it's done ALL ThE TIME so why couldn't you just provide a name? Because I DARED question you I am attempting to engage you? PLEASE!

How can I be confusing a CLAUSE with a book deal? I am knowledgeable enough about the business to know the difference. How can you be bound to a clause without a deal in the first place. YOU act like YOU KNOW. Don't talk down to me, as if I'm some first grader.
I believe I said that if you could give me a name, I WOULD STAND CORRECTED. You should never believe I won't question anything ANYONE posts on this board. OK?
And as for what I know, OH you best believe that I have done A LOT of research, even before I signed my deal. I don't need you to tell me when to consult my agent. We are in touch on the regular. I will ask her about your answer though. Just for my own knowledge. Knowlege that I am gaining every single day. So I don't care who you are, I am not that one who will worship at your feet because you have worked in this business longer than I have. And you best believe, when I share what I learn with others that come along, I pray to God that my delivery doesn't come off as arrogant as yours! NOW I got more books to write, and deals to make. So tata for now.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon wrote:

AND other industry professionals don't always agree with what you espouse on this board.

Name them. Tell me specifically what I espoused on this forum regarding the industry, and what the opposing views were of the industry professionals you personally spoke with. In fact, why don't you invite these other industry professionals to the forum and I will debate them here. Bear in mind, we're not talking my opinions regarding the ins and outs and politics of the industry. Everyone has opinions about the publishing industry, even those who aren't part of the book world, and those opinions are neither right nor wrong. What we're talking here are FACTS. You tell me what ERRONEOUS FACTS I've espoused regarding the publishing industry, send in your opposing industry professionals, and let's set the record straight. How 'bout it? Pick a date.

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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As a matter of fact, The post you answered starts off with this phrase:

Most publishing contracts include language to prevent the author from writing a similar book for a competing publisher. The language undoubtedly differs from publisher to publisher, but the intent is the same.
This was written by an industry professional and you disagreed, no?


Who said I spoke with them? Don't try to spin what I've posted. I've READ thier interpretation of the facts in BOOKS! HOWEVER, I will GLADLY point out the items you have posted and what is WRITTEN in the books that I have read by INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS like yourself and they DEFINITELY differ ON SOME POINTS. I DON'T HAVE TIME RIGHT NOW. But I will DEFINITELY REVISIT THIS THREAD.

Don't think I'm blowing this off cuz I'm DEFINTELY NOT. I remember a couple of things you have posted that others who have written books on publishing have had an opposing view and when I have free time to look up those threads, I WILL and I will name the book and author as well. I have no reason to LIE to win an argument. You can't possibly believe that you know EVERYTHING!

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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here's something from publishing guru Morris Rosenthal on the non-compete clause:

"Many non-fiction publishers try to get an author to commit to a non-compete clause. In a non-compete clause, the author agrees not to produce another work that competes with the title under contract without prior permission of the publisher. It's usually not in the interest of an author to write books that compete with each other, since this fractionates the market and may cause both books to fail. Experienced authors will not sign a contract with a non-compete clause, and publishers aren't going to promise not to publish books that compete directly with the author's, so it's just a bad deal. If the publisher insists on a non-compete from a new author, it should at least be narrowed to the point that the only way to violate it would be to write an essentially identical book. If you've signed a book contract with a non-compete, it's worth talking to a lawyer to find out just how limited you really are."

Let me guess, A_womon, you signed a contract with a non-compete clause, didn't you? RETAIN AN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAWYER! TODAY!


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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HAHAHHAHA! You just excerpted from the same source I did!

This is why I stay away from the board, I can't stop answering once I start.

Anyway. Here's the thing US. It was never my intention to engage you in a negative way, so I wish you would quit assuming this. Now I really can't continue with this right now. Once I meet my deadlines, I will be more than happy to continue this debate.
Good night! And MERRY CHRISTMAS! HAPPY NEW YEAR! HA!
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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 12:15 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon wrote:

Most publishing contracts include language to prevent the author from writing a similar book for a competing publisher. The language undoubtedly differs from publisher to publisher, but the intent is the same.
This was written by an industry professional and you disagreed, no?


I never disagreed that publishers attempt to grab as many rights as possible, which is what a non-compete clause does. In fact, I wrote:

It goes deeper than the non-compete clause and essentially comes down to a question of what rights did the house acquire.

and

NEVER sign over all rights to a work to ONE publisher. Now, even the Big 6 attempt to pull what's known as a "rights grab". That's where they try to take all rights to a particular work. And so many writers are so desperate to be published, especially by one of the major NY houses, the writers go ahead and sign it all away to one publisher. That's a no-no.

A_womon, we can do this all night long, and it will still boil down to the same thing: You said Kola/Nafisa couldn't have diff books out by diff publishers simultaneously due to the non-compete clause; I said she could, and that the non-compete clause doesn't always apply and it's not a good idea. If you disagree with that because your agent allowed you to sign a publishing contract with a non-compete clause, and now you realize you've been screwed and you're pissed, well, don't shoot the messenger.

Now I'm going to bed. I have kids to get off to school in the morning, and I've got work to do. Those little rascals are out of school from 12/21/07 - 1/2/08. Whatever I don't get done this week, won't get done till after the new year. I wish you a lovely evening, sweet dreams and all that jazz. In the morning, when you're well-rested, you'll have a clearer head and you can just chuck this all up to experience. Some of the greatest successes I've had in this industry came after some of my biggest failures. Much success with your book, and future publishing endeavors.


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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 12:24 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you disagree with that because your agent allowed you to sign a publishing contract with a non-compete clause, and now you realize you've been screwed and you're pissed, well, don't shoot the messenger

I never said that I signed any non compete clause. That's you ASSUMING again.

And as for being pissed or screwed, not hardly. I am EXTREMELY HAPPY with the deal my agent got for me! Ecstatic, Euphoric even. It is a damn good deal for a first time author. So no regrets here, baby. NONE!

Thanks for the well wishes, and good night FOR REAL!

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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good luck on your book deals and other projects, Kola. And best wishes to you and your boys for the holidays! :-)

And LOL @ Cynique tryna make an aalbc love match. I'd like to see that happen...maybe we'll have better luck in '08!
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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:38 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, as a publisher at Simon and Schuster, I will state that an author can have more than one publisher at a time. Mary Morrison has book deals with two publishing houses and I have an author who has done two books with another publisher since I published her first two books and I am publishing her again in 2008.

It does boil down to the actual language in a contract. For instance a publisher could have an option clause in the contract: the next full length work of erotic fiction written under the pseudonym of A-woman. That would mean that you could shop anything that does not fall into that at another publisher.

When I fill out a contract proposal, I check which rights I am asking for. It could be the next full length work, it could be the next non-fiction work, it could be the next fiction work or the next work in that particular genre. I could also just do a one-book deal with that understanding going in.

As for Kola having a book deal, who the hell knows, or cares-LOL

Hope this helps.

Blessings,
Zane
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Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 03:49 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I stop by the corner from time to time, but I don't post because as you well know, once you start posting it's hard to stop! HAHAHHA."

So true! But I do miss your commentary A_womon. Things have slowed down quite a bit around here. We don't have the numbers we once had. Don't be a stranger.
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Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 04:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, hoping you read this and hoping all goes well for you and your kids. Sorry I haven't emailed in a while, but we've been very busy and will be unti we move in March.

I'll keep in touch and hope you do the same!
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Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 04:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks NT! Once I meet my deadlines I'll be back! Merry Christmas to you and yours!

Zane, Thank you so much for the name and publisher which is what I asked for in the first place. You have gone a long way in clarifying things for new writers searching for valid information, without all the BS that floats around in cyberspace.

Merry Christmas Thumper's Corner! And Happy New Year!
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I have an interesting horoscope today. Thought I'd share:

Your authority is challenged again and again by folks with nothing better to do than cause trouble. You may be able to roll with it pretty easily, but at some point you probably need to take a firm stand.
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Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 05:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

YA Think? AHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA! WHEW!
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I know. AHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA! WHEW!
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RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT! FA REAL???? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! NOT! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! WHEWEEEEEE! HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
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I think we both agree, A_womon, that this is childish. Happy New Year!
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For the sake of our environment, I hope these "books" are printed on recycled paper. Otherwise, what a waste of trees.



LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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