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Yvettep
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9620861

Walter Mosley, author of 25 books, gives tips, tricks and practical advice for stalled writers in his new book, This Year You Write Your Novel.

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Yvettep
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:26 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

(Radio story and excerpts from the book available from the url above.)
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Troy
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 01:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I actually started this book a few eeeks ago. An average reader can finish it in one sitting.

The primary purpose, or so it seems, would be to motivate someone, completely unfamiliar with the process of writing a novel, to give it a shot.

Though given some of the books I've come across, I would reccomend it to some published authors.

A side note:
You know what was interesting; I found a error in the book (the wrong word was used). I believe I had a finished book, not a galley.

I wonder how many errors in a book are acceptable before before one can say it was "poorly editted"?

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Sisg
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 03:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello Troy,

It really wasn't until i began writing that i noticed errors in books. I can remember reading volumes and volumes but never quite scoured a book the way i do now. I read for enjoyment first, and craft, especially if it's a by a talented writer, like Mr. Mosely. Oftentimes the author's themselves, especially at Mr. Mosely's level have little or nothing to do with the editing process. So it goes to show, even when you are large and in charge, you can too fall victim to a poorly edited book, although i wouldn't consider 1-5 errors, poorly edited but, fair. I had 53 errors in my book, at 90,355 words, my error rate was .05% of my word count....deduction, poorly edited book.
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Emanuel
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 04:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Walter Mosley's interview reminds me of what so many well-known authors suggest:

*Write daily, 1500-2000 words.
*Bang out that first draft first, and then go back and edit.
*Outline if you think it's necessary.

A lot of this advice and more can be found in one of my favorite magazines "The Writer." http://www.writermag.com/wrt/

While I don't have the discipline to write daily, I do adhere to the other advice.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 06:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is no such thing as an error-free book.

Let me repeat that, there is no such thing as an error-free book. Not from Random House, not from a self-published author. Of course it's possible to produce a flawless perfect book, but don't count on it because it's not probable.

The goal of editing is not to produce a perfect book, but to publish a book as free of error as humanly possible. However, even with the stringent and thorough checks and balances in the editing, copyediting, and proofing processes found at major houses and better small and midsize presses, there is no such thing as an error-free book.

A tenth of a tenth percent of errors is considered acceptable in publication. So, as Sisg did above, take the total word count, total errors and divide errors into word count. Any percentage greater than .001 is careless, sloppy, shoddy editing.

Also note: Many publishers pay their readers for calling errors to their attention with a complimentary copy of a book. You can pull the publisher's addy off the book's copyright page. Write a brief note indicating title of book, author, ISBN, page #, and paragraph of error. If there's a subsequent printing of the book, the error will be corrected, and, as stated, the publisher may send the author a complimentary copy of one of their titles as thanks.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 07:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I heard an anecdote about best-selling horror writer Dean Koontz, wherein he challenged his editors and proof-readers to ever find an error in any of his manuscripts. They supposedly never did. Maybe ol Dean got some help from supernatural forces.
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 07:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL. Mosley is coming to Columbus this weekend and I plan to get a ggood seat
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 12:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is no such thing as an error-free book.

Let me repeat that, there is no such thing as an error-free book. Not from Random House, not from a self-published author. Of course it's possible to produce a flawless perfect book, but don't count on it because it's not probable.


(This is not only true, in fact book collectors look for books with certain erratum!
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 12:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I heard Moseley talking about this on the radio.

Go see him. He's a good lecturer.
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Libralind2
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 01:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will do
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 11:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This was excellent. Were you there A Woman
LiLi
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 11:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tell us about it
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Libralind2
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 01:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What I got out of his lecture: in order to write your first novel, as that was his main point, you have to write. Write every day no matter what for 90 mins.
LiLi
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no, unfortunately I was told that you could register the day of and pay the $60 dollar fee, couldn't call the offices the day of to verify this, as the offices were closed on Friday, so I didn't go. Tell me please Lili, how do you find out about all of these events in our area in advance? (I missed Pearl Cleage also) Is there some type of mailing list or something? Also my internet keeps going down so I might not be able to check your answer right away...
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 09:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well..I know somebody..who knows somebody..who..you get the picture. My local book club brought Ms Cleage here..
LiLi
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:45 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would you mind if I attend a meeting with your book club? Also, I would really be indebted to you if you would advise me of when someone like Pearl Cleage or Walter Mosley will be in the area.

Still having connection issues with my internet, it pops up when it feels like it...
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 08:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sure to both. To see when we meet next, go to
womanistreaders.org
LiLi
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Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 02:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks LiLi!

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