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Troy
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let me knon how you feel. Should Kola Boof be banned from this discussion board?

If more people post Yes than No, Ban Kola Boof she will be banned.

Kola Boof has been a one of the most prolific posters on the board for several years. She is an accomplished author and has a unique, passionate voice.

She also can get on your nerves.

This is your board. Let me know if Kola Boof should be allowed to stay, or if she should be permanently banned from these discussion boards.

After week or so I will count the posts for and against, and act accordingly.

This post was motivated by my frustration. However, that will not be the sole motivation for my actions. I really want want the posters to let me know what they think.

I hate to pull this "American Idol" crap, but I really want to know what folks think.

Lurkers, you can email me at troy@aalbc.com. Your vote won't count but I'm interested to read what you think (put kola in the subject of your email please).

Peace,
Troy
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Schakspir
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The board wouldn't be as funny without her, and besides, her shenanigans drive traffic to this site. But the level of discourse is also far more infantile and self-centered whenever she appears, and ALWAYS degenerates into a dumb squabble about skin color or interracial dating or her own private personal issues. I say, YES.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Yes.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)




Regardless of the vote's outcome, Troy.

I'm gone.

And you and everyone else here can have at it.

Surely, the road of life will uncover everyone's true heart.

Whatever the travel, I will be victorious.

Crazy or not.



To you Troy and everyone here:








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Mzuri
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)



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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not that it matters, but I don't care whether kola stays or goes.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 12:01 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Schakspir, you may be right regarding the traffic. But believe me when I tell you the boards are not here to simply generate traffic.

Sure, the traffic tells me that what people want however, if you ever visited AALBC.com you know I don't aways post what is popular. Of course I know this comes at the expense of traffic and as a result revenue.

Kola, that choice is yours. At this point I'm interested in what other people think.



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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 12:06 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique, are you truly indifferent? Interesting. I would have guessed you would have come down on one side of the fence or the other. What does you "heart of hearts" say?

Not that is matters at this point, but I am curious.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 12:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy,

You shouldn't have done this.

If you want to ban Kola, ban her. Don't do her the additional indignity of having her hateful detractors, many of whom are every bit the source of strife here as she, do it by committee.

Kola is NOT the biggest source of the problem here. She's just much more overt. And is, because of her views and personae, an easier target of criticism.

There are some other foks here who are MORE hateful and malevolent than Kola. Their only contribution is to spew hate at/to anyone with whom they disagree.

And the sh*t they're pulling will continue to drag this site down long AFTER Kola's gone.

TRUST, bruh.
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Tonya
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 12:44 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No.
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Cynique
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 12:55 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Who's pulling any shit, ABM? Who are kola's detractors. Are they justified in responding to the shit she pulls? Did they call for her to be banned? Are they at fault because they were weary of being a submissive audience to her endless rants and lectures. Not everybody is interested in being her lap dog. What would be anybody's ulterior motive for wanting kola banned? When she was on hiatus did anybody try to take her place by being a diva subjecting the board to their self indulgent promotions and name-calling tantrums? Kola brings everything on herself. You need to get real.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 12:55 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


ABM - To suffer indignity, a person must first have dignity.

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=40578#POST40578

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=41372#POST41372

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=40829#POST40829

Your girl doesn't have any and so you need to get real, bruh, instead of trying to defend the indefensible.

Kola claims to be a "public figure" and she made the statement earlier today about how she would never be banned, like she's running something here.

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=179&post=92402#POST92402

So this thread and this poll are justified.


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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 01:01 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no.
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Cynique
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 01:06 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess I should have some strong convictions about whether kola stays or goes, Troy, but at this point I honestly don't care. I do think that she attracts lurkers because she is so controversial and I'll go along with whatever the majority votes.
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Misty
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 01:08 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No...... i feel she brings a good amount knowledge and personality to the board.
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Doberman23
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 01:41 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i say keep kola but ban serenasailor :-)

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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 01:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've worked with Kola Boof for a decade and she can be a real b-I-T-C-H and all around pain in the ass but why do the people here discuss her like she's an animal in a cage?

I wonder Mr. Troy Johnson if it was necessary to humiliate Ms. Boof this way and so soon after humiliating her the last time? I'd also like to know why is she being singled out? I don't have the stomach to post here because Thumpers Corner is way too vulgar for my tastes (that includes Kola's posts and I've told her) but how in the heavens is she getting on everyone's nerves more than this Mzuri person?

The posts by Lil_ze, Schakpsir and others make my skin crawl and I'm not even black.

Kola likes to portray that she's big and bad, but you know she called me in tears tonight so hurt that everyone's always ganging up on her and casting her as the "evil" one, the "enemy", and knowing what she goes through on a daily basis battling with the media and countless other web sites like Wikipedia where people post a non-stop stream of lies about this woman and there's nothing she can do about it, I sometimes don't blame her for being a (b)itch.

Ms. Boof certainly is a public figure and is under far more scrutiny than anyone here about her real true life and this is not her fault because she never chose to come out about Osama Bin Laden or any of that she was forced to do so to save her children and her citizenship and anybody who says otherwise is a liar. There are now people who try to claim once more that she doesn't exist and is not who she is and they're liars, too, but people who hate a person's opinion believe what they want to believe about Kola and that can be painful.

Kola felt that when Mr. Johnson accused her of lying on him she was "horsing around" with Mzuri and not maliciously lying on Mr. Johnson and she feels that this board is place to let her hair down and be herself because supposedly shes been here so long. She is being painted a very broad and unfair brush by Mr. Johnson and the others trying to says she's some maniacal liar.

I told her it hurts her career to be this open on a public board and I think it's best for her to stop posting, but she is my friend and the godmother of my daughter and I'm not about to let her be smeared.

Kola's a wonderful person, a good friend and one of the most creative, talented and hilarious people I have ever met in my life. When people make her cry, it really ticks me off because you don't know what she's been through just to be alive and few could walk in her shoes fighting the whole world everyday but I can attest that she is indestructible and others here will know that one day too.

I love Kola Boof and that's my opinion.




Nafisa Goma (Real Person)

Day:
senior_editor@doorofkushbooks.com

Night:
nafisaeditor@aol.com







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Cynique
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 02:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The obvious question for Nafis Goma is: was what you just posted "cut and pasted" from an e-mail from kola, as were all of the other directives you've posted here?? And do you have any theories as to why kola is such a magnet for so much vitriol? Is everybody wrong but kola???
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 02:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The comments I posted tonight are my own words.

Kola Boof is loved by many people all over the world for a variety of reasons. It all depends on who is doing the reporting.

This board itself is testament to her popularity and her autobiography is selling twice at Seaburn what it sold at our house.

Kola Boof's personal friends and admirers include people like Cynthia Mckinney, the mayor of Washington D.C., activist Joe Madison, Derrick Bell, Dixon Turner, Isaiah Washington, Sister Souljah, Djimon Hounsou, African President's Mugabe and Mbeki, Mike Tyson and Keith Boykin.

What I notice is that because of her mouth she never has to wonder who loves her and who hates her and I recall her saying she likes it that way.





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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 02:26 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy I think you did what you had to do and I don't blame you one bit.

Still, I vote no on banning Kola.

I don't blame you though.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 02:28 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Kola Spoof Nafisa_goma,

How ironic and coincidental that you haven't posted here for a while.

But Kola Spoof called you on the telephone "crying" about how everyone is always "ganging up" on her here on this forum???

Boo Hoo!!!

And so you dropped everything to come here to scold Troy Johnson for humiliating "Kola"

Did she mention that she brought her humiliation upon herself?

Did she mention that she posted this:

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/24781.html?1173899003

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=179&post=91386#POST91386 (this was her very first post after being un-banned)

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/24727.html#POST91953

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=179&post=92232#POST92232

And this was after she was banned for posting this (among other things):

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/21536.html#POST84931

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/21773.html?1169624262

You call the above episodes "horsing around" with Mzuri and not maliciously lying?

Well I call it harrassment and cyber stalking.

Now, pray tell - what have I done to get on everyone's nerves?

And what have Cynique, Moonsigns, and all the others done to endure the unending wrath of "Kola?"

Because we're not the ones posting endless lies, vulgar insults, promoting our business, discussing our love lives, our weight, our babydaddies, creating numerous internet sock puppet accounts and all the other drama that YOU bring.

And did "Kola" tell you that she told us all to get fukced???

You need to cut the crap, because you're not fooling anyone Kola!

!!!



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Cynique
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 02:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola can't help herself. She doesn't know any other way to be, so she continues to insult people's intelligence with her machinations. Pathetic.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 04:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i say delete the thread, and do what you do . . . this isn't really a democracy, so . . .
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 04:46 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, don't ban her.

Schakspir barely posts here anyway, so who is he to say who stays and goes
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 04:48 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Schakspir you post MORE when Kola is here.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 08:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i think ABM said it best,

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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 08:32 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree Misty.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 08:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do I think Kola deserves to be banned?

Yes.

Do I think banning Kola will prevent her from posting to this forum?

No.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 08:42 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No. I like that you previously laid down some basic rules recently for deleting posts and posters. Why not just stick to that? Post it more prevalently on the site, send a blanket email to all registered users with the same info, and be done with it.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 09:49 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yvettep, Yukio the problem is I do not have time to enforce my own rules and delete threads. I can make the rules but I may never discover the violators until some one emails me to say, for example, that someone has posted a ton of pornographic pictures on your board. Also none of the people I have banned or considered banning would have been influenced by rules (http://thumperscorner.com/disclaimer.htm). Rules have little impact if they can not be enforced. But I will take your advice and post them more prominently.

If you have not noticed the AALBC.com site is under going a redesign, I would much rather be focused on that activity.

Urban, if Kola is banned she will not be able to post here unless she goes to extreme measures. Then again...

Nafisa_goma, your histrionics are the last thing that will work with me. From my perspective you posts hurts her case.

ABM, Misty, BB, maybe you all are right. But consider the following: I do not view my actions as humiliating to Kola. Besides Kola, has never been one to spare anyone else from humiliation. Why should be she be extended a courtesy that she almost universally failed to give to others?

I thought the way Kola can here and treated Thumper was a pure disgrace. Where does one get the balls to come into someone else’s house and curse out the host? I stayed out of it. But Thumper, understandably, was pissed. I even gave Kola her own boards (plural) to give her an outlet and keep her out of Thumpers hair, but she choose to create an alias and post there anyway – directly ignoring a request I’d made. I even let that slide.

Even more recently, Kola’s initial rants against Kam Williams was just about as base as one can get. I cringed when her first posts about Kam. But I did not delete them. Kam, knows not to take stuff people say on a discussion board so seriously. He looked past that and even recommended Kola’s book Diary of a Lost Girl as the best non-fiction book written in 2006: http://www.aalbc.com/books/best_worst_nonfiction_2006.htm

Not to mention the other obscenity laced tirades against other posters.

Of course this mades for great theater and lurkers love to read this stuff. I don’t even have a problem with a good obscenity laced rant – but let it be warranted. Kola has even cursed me – and I have done nothing but support her. Sure Kola has paid for AALBC.com services, but the support I provided and time I spend in support of Kola’s efforts or cleaning up after her is dwarfed in comparison with any financial compensation received. Kola is not the ONLY author out there who I would like to support.

So ABM, forgive me if I took a risk of bruising Kola’s ego.

Despite being banned several weeks recently, Kola Boof has posted more times, under various names, than anyone else in the history of this board bar – none. Obviously she has an impact.

Also consider, Kolas impact is greatly diminished without you all. She needs an audience, she needs adversaries. Look on a discussion board we all need each other. We even the lurkers have value . I can spout off an opinion in my Blog, but it means much more when I post it here and people let me know what they think. Even though this is cyber space it is a social environment, as such it needs rules. In cyberspace, as in the physical space, one person cane cause a lot of damage. Similarly 1 person can transcend all others and uplift everyone else. The trick is providing enough rules to prevent the former and encourage the later.

So, again, if I appeal to the board if you want Kola banned let me know. If you do not want her banned let me know that too. I still want to know what you posters think. Whether Kola posts here or not; this is a prefect opportunity for people to express themselves.

I’ll summarize the lurker responses sometime next week.



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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 09:52 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, And this shouldn't just be about Kola, it should be about Any and Everyone who can't follow the rules. Even those who think it's okay to call Kola all kinds of names--they should be considered for banning status too, if they persist
no one, not even Cynique should be excluded from the rules...

Kola you should show Troy more respect as he is the founder of this spot
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Cynique
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 10:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have never been excluded from the rules, a-woman. It was no secret that "Pandora" was my cyber daughter who aided and abetted my April Fools joke; that happened a couple of years ago and I ve been admitting to it every time this subject comes up. So talk what you know for a change. And this current ruckus can be traced back to you and your nosy self sneaking on to the board, wanting to know if Kola had been banned. It all took off from there and you and your paranoia just fed the flames, accusing everybody of being someone else. If anybody needs to be someone else, it's you. You suck. LMAO
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I better understand your response now, Troy. I hope everyone reads your most recent post carefully, as there is a lot of wisdom packed in there. Some of the drama you spoke about was before my time so I will not comment on that. I do hope that whatever else happens, all of us here manage to find a way to have engaging, informative, sometimes spicy, but still civil and respectful online exchanges.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 11:16 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yep, Troy laid it out there, and said what he needed to say. He exerted some muscle and invoked his authority as the HNIC up in here. :-)
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 11:27 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know I don't post here a lot and many of you have been around waaaaaaay longer than I have and have had many dealings with Kola.

I have read Kola going completely beserk and posting completely irrational things but ban her? I don't think he should. I have my reasons and I am sure yall don't want to hear them, lol but I say keep her.

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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 11:28 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Poor Cynique,Still deluding yourself into thinking your self annointed "provocoteur" posts leave people wanting more or that I GAF about you and your inane opinions--you're just jealous because you can't write anything worth reading, not even on this board,- despite what you think. And if I suck at least I'm getting PAID to write and..you're...NOT! HA! and that's what kills you...YOU WON'T EVER BE AN AUTHOR
Except for your crappy posts on this board... so knock yourself out..

And YES Troy has and does make exceptions for you...
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Troy,

I can’t wholly disagree much of any you’ve said about what Kola has done, though I will say much of it was NOT as one-sided as one might interpret from what you’ve presented (For example, I recall seeing Thumper rundown Kola before she was much of any presence here at all.).

Still. You know I value Kola’s presence here. Certainly I and many others will miss it. I’ll bet even YOU will come to miss it as well.

And what I suspect will happen is after you've banned Kola you will, perhaps in part as retaliation for your banning Kola, get LOTS of cranky missives demanding that you delete the posts and ban the sign-ons of others who frequently visit here.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 11:41 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And for the record...I did NOT accuse everyone of being someone else, just one person and I stand by that.

But as Yvettep wisely summed up it really doesn't matter because we all are only opinions on this board, nothing MORE and nothing less
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LMAO. I knew that would get you going. I still got it when it comes to setting you off. And you are still deluded into thinking that writing a best-seller was a priority in my life when I've always been more interested in writing checks that don't bounce. But it makes you feel comfortable to think this so knock yourself out. blah-blah-blah. Just rant on because I'm not going to turn this thread into a forum for our mutual disregard for each other. BTW, girlfriend, you spelled "Annointed" wrong. snicker.
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Americansista,

Please say why you'd rather Kola not be banned...
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Cynique, How sad...
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You shouldn't have capitalized the word "how". ROTFLOL.
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Cynique, How desperate...HA!
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You shouldn't have capitalized the word "how". ROTFLO.
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Americansista,

Please say why you'd rather Kola not be banned...


Well, I feel that aside from her always defending herself or offending others, she really is an intelligent poster. Kola has opened my eyes to a lot of things, especially from her perspective as an African female.

She is a passionate, sensitive writer and whether or not her life is the gospel truth or made up bullshyt, you have to admit that she is intriguing and the reason why a few folks visit this place is because of her.

For the record, I don't think anyone should be banned. You all are so intelligent and quick witted! I love your posts, ABM but that rings true for Cynique, Mzuri, Tonya, Brownbeauty, Chrishayden and even Lil Ze....hell, all of yall are entertaining...and all of yall have said or did some things on this board that - if on another board - would have had you banned.

Face it, you all are one big, dysfunctional family. What point would it be to ban Kola? Look, most of you all have posted with and against her FOR YEARS. You already KNOW what type of poster she is and what her views are on damn near everything. Now after all this time, there is a question to ban her?

It just doesn't make any sense. Eh..let her stay!

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I wonder if you'd feel that way if she were constantly harrassing and besmirching you. Or threatened you with physical violence. Doubt it.

And P.S. The reason that she is up for being banned (I think) is for posting false information. Repeatedly.


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Troy keep Kola Barf around She is Amusing.
You could ban the she/he known as SerenaSailor.
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To be honest, Mzuri, I don't know how I would feel. I know if we went tit for tat and she threatened to beat my azz, I might tell her to suggest a time and a place, lol...but I can't honestly say I would want her banned.

I know that Troy banned her (before reinstating her priviledges this time) because of that lie she told on him about you but what is the point of THIS TOPIC? She was banned for that but what's the hub-bub about now? If he felt that strongly, he should have kept her banned.

BTW, Troy, have you ever considered putting a POLL option on here? LOL.
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I don't think anybody has ever seriously denied that Kola is intelligent and, to some extent, entertaining. What turns me off about her are her lies, some of which were about me. I may be many things, but I am not a liar. The truth is a much better weapon. And I repeat: I don't give a shit whether kola stays or goes. And that's no lie. heh-heh.
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While I do believe that Kola was the catalyst to a major shift on this board I don’t think she should be banned. There’s more than one person here calling folks petty names, cussing folks like dogs in the street and posting ridiculous pictures. I pretty much just use my personal “ignore” button on them and her too sometimes.

This is what happens on message boards unless they are heavily moderated and Troy has told us many times he doesn’t have the time for that. Actually from his last couple of posts it sounds like he’s pretty tired of this BS and is about ready to pull the plug on the whole thing. Now, that’s when I’ll get pissed! Not at Troy but at the fools that caused it to happen.

Do what you have to to stay sane Troy! I’ll understand.
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Americansista,

I think you've beautifully articulated much of what I feel about this issue (Especially the part about my being "...so intelligent and quick witted!"...HAHAHAHAHA!!!)

THANKS!!!

And please do chime in when you have the chance to. :-)
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I don't think anybody has ever seriously denied that Kola is intelligent and, to some extent, entertaining. What turns me off about her are her lies, some of which were about me. I may be many things, but I am not a liar. The truth is a much better weapon. And I repeat: I don't give a shit whether kola stays or goes. And that's no lie. heh-heh.

LOL. That is probably because you'll call out anything you deem untrue or ridiculous, lol, and then keep on steppin'. Cyn, you two keep each sharp in the quick wit department.
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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 01:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, Abm! *waves*

I haven't been here much, to be honest. I check in every now and then but it's been really busy at work and I've been posting on another message board a lot in recent times. In fact, I'm toggling back and forth, lol.

BTW, this board is full of intelligent, passionate posters, and you know you are one of them.
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AS - Kola didn't just threaten to beat my ass. She threatened to find out my location from Troy and that she would catch me off guard. Now bear in mind, Troy has all my contact information (from when I placed a banner ad on his website a few months ago - the credit card transaction has my home information on it). It's not a comforting thought that some psycho could have my home address. Okay.

Since you probably haven't kept up.

In January - Kola Spoof posted this:

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/20556.html

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/21636.html

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/21773.html?1169624262

The is like a dog with an Mzuri bone and when she came back from being banned (last Saturday I think) she started right back up with the same type of nonsense.

I didn't ask Troy to impose any ban on Kola, simply that she stop posting lies against me since posting falsities is a violation of this forum's policies.

Cyn - To be honest, Kola is not a major factor to me and I'm usually laughing at the crap that we post, I just wish that she would leave me and you and everybody else alone with the lies and the bullshit. It's her chronic toxic lies that cross the line.


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Cynique,

BRAVO! (clapping my hands)Now if you could just learn to APPLY your techniques to your OWN "book"?? HAHAHHAHA!!

I would loan you my copy of "Strunk and White's
Elements of Style" but alas, even that wouldn't bring your *ahem* writing up to a sellable level. But DO keep practicing here, my dear. The
only way to learn to write well is to practice, practice, practice...however vain that practice might prove to be! HAHAHAHAHAHA!


P.S. Writing practice does not include your cut and pastes from the internet on any given topic! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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A , Cynique is a retired published columnist, which is much more than can be said for you. So shove it.
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Go suck on a turd popsicle Mzuri and please believe, you DON'T want none of this

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Never happen. I prefer fruit flavors. Strawberry, cherry, grape, pineapple, lemon, kiwi.

None of what, A ???? Your lame internet rants. LOLOL! Just leave Ms. Cynique alone!!! !!!


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AS - Kola didn't just threaten to beat my ass. She threatened to find out my location from Troy and that she would catch me off guard. Now bear in mind, Troy has all my contact information (from when I placed a banner ad on his website a few months ago - the credit card transaction has my home information on it). It's not a comforting thought that some psycho ••••• could have my home address.

Whoa! I understand what you are saying and I can't knock your feelings and yes, if this was another board she would have been banned and I am sure Troy knows this. I understand this board is not Troy's life, lol and he has MUCH MUCH more important matters to attend to BUT if Kola is oh so bad...why ban her just to reinstate her only to ask the board should she be banned again?

I think he's trying to pass the buck because he has some feelings (not in a sexual way, lol)for her. This should solely be his decision. Hell, many folks have gotten into it badly with Kola before...causing topics to get all out of control and vicious...so I still find it a little confusing as to why now?

How is this time any different from the other 100000001 times Kola has ranted and raved about something and the board members started going off, creating 5 mile long topics about NOTHING?

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So eat a turd sundae!

Lame rants? Are you the one posting mile high font on this board? How lame is that?YOU invented those

Leave cynique alone! HA! MAKE me... You are so boring with your me and cynique are best friends fantasy...how infantile can you be??? really Miserable... aren't you like 50? Much Much too old to be playing that all for one and one for all kindergarten BS HA! What a joke you are!
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A TURD POPSICLE?

Lawd....

5, 4, 3, 2, 1........
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What does this have to do with whether or not Kola should be banned?
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Yawn. Let a-woman blab on. It kills her for anybody to imply that she isn't perfect, and her frustration is my greatest satisfaction.
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as is your frustration for me...Cynique HA!
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You're absolutely right, Americansista, it doesn't have anything to do with the topic... so I'm done.

my vote is still "no"
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A - You're starting to sound like your twin. Anyway, Cynique and I aren't always best boardie friends, we argue about stuff we disagree upon just like everybody else. But I will defend her because I don't understand why you feel the need to cast childish insults against her. She doesn't require any Strunk and White reference manuals. She has the broadest language skills, life experience, and writing ability of anyone who posts here. Now you go eat yourself a delish banana split. !!!


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AS - You'd probably get a better answer from Troy. But my thinking is that since her previous ban was temporary, and she came back and started up along the same vein, he's probably tired of it. I think he's already made up his mind, he's just asking our opinions for whatever.


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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No

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Yes
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Then I'll loan the "Elements of Style" to you...Miserable... it may help you develop some. OR maybe I'll just buy you a damn thesaurus to help you broaden your vocabulary beyond the word "" HAHAHAHAHA!

Rant on odd couple... I'm done, for real for now anyway.

Sorry Americansista and all but I couldn't resist! Bye now!
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Mzuri, I hear you. Maybe he was tired of the tired mess.

A_womon, lol..no need to apologize. I already knew this topic was not going to stay on track.

BTW, Mr. Troy have you tallied the votes?
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A - Thanks, but I already have Strunk and White as well as countless other reference manuals sitting here in my office. And yes - they are used from time to time as I deem necessary.


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For the most part, in the past, I've enjoyed reading many of Kola's posts. She is a good writer. However, because she lied on me, my entire perspective of her being has completely changed. Therefore, in regards to my personal feelings, I'm indifferent -either way, I won't be interacting with her.

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Kola Boof attacked Thumper first Mr. Johnson? What a lie.

I was the one who turned Ms. Boof onto this site after Thumper posted several scathing posts about a "savage naked African nut" who sent him a book with no clothes on.

In 2002, our book "Long Train" went on to be well reviewed on your site by Jaqueline LaMons Jones and I contacted you directly and payed to set up a Kola Boof web page.

Is that not true Mr. Johnson?

That is how Ms. Boof came to this site, although her boyfriend Thomas came to this site first and got into it with Thumper about calling Kola names such as "transexxual" and saying she had diseases.

All of this took place before Ms. Boof ever posted a single word here.

You can take offense to whatever I say, Mr. Johnson, but as long as you have this thread up for the press and media to read and draw false conclusions about Ms. Boof from, it's important that other shed some "truth".

Mzuri is pretending that she's been some innocent victim of Kola Boof but Mzuri is the person who initiates these battles with Kola Boof and keeps insulting Ms. Boof calling her names every ten minutes and posting huge block letters and photos taunting Ms. Boof.

Why is it that you've never said a single thing to Mzuri about the trouble she keeps going on your board, Mr. Johnson?

Why did you over look Mzuri calling me a "b-i-t-ch" on this very thread last night Mr. Johnson?

I have not said anything irrational or combative to anyone here, I have handled myself like a professional and a lady, so why is it alright for Mzuri to refer to me as a "b-i-t-ch" just because I posted my opinion, Mr. Johnson?

Why is Kola Boof being singled out as some animal in a cage when there are so many people here who daily attack her with vulgar photos, cursing language, name calling and other vile meanness?

I happen to know that Ms. Boof will not be back. But again, as long as this thread is available to the press and media as a public attack on Ms. Boof by you and others, I will defend Ms. Boof.

I have taken the poster named "Abm's" comments and emailed them to Ms. Boof as his seem to be the only fair and balanced comments on this entire thread.

Cynique, I am the one who contacted Troy Johnson from day one 5 or 6 years ago when I set up Ms. Boof's page at African American Library and I am the one who edits her books. I have edited "Flesh", "Long Train", "Diary", "Nile River". If we sound alike to you, then it's not uncommon for authors and their book editors to have semi-similar writing patterns.

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I never really said you sounded like anybody, Nafishy Gomez. You're the one who in the past claimed that you only cut and pasted what kola e-mailed to you. Is there any end to this BS? And what about "I don't care whether kola comes back or not", don't you understand??
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The poster here named Crystal met me in Los Angeles at a Book Event for Kola Boof in 2003, she can vouch for who I am.



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Nafisa_goma Kola Spoof (real person my ass)

He overlooked it because I didn't call you any . The letters are blocked out so how do you draw that conclusion? For all you know I could have called you a and not a . Dumb !

This is your idea of professional???

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/19960.html?1167878530

And if anyone gives a care, both Kola and Nafisa spell the past tense of pay as "payed" which is obsolete. The standard spelling is "paid." More evidence that these two are one and the same!!!

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/11222/9072.html#POST40216

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/7242/5004.html#POST25093

Has anyone noticed that Kola has three different Kola accounts: Kola, Kola_Boof, and kola@aalbc.com??? And that's in addition to all the other sock puppet accounts that she's created.

What's up with that???

And finally Nafisa_goma Kola Spoof (real person my ass) - Keep my name out of your stanknasty mouth and I won't even respond to you.

Thank you.



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Who is Thumper? I thought he and Troy were the same folks before. Where is he?
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Americansista, I am curious to know. Why is it that you and Kola have gotten along? Has it been your experience that Kola just randomly threatens to track people down and beat them up for no reason?

I am trying to understand why Kola Boof begged us to publish other posters from this board if she's such a horrible ogre?

We indeed went on to publish two very talented posters from Thumper's Corner because of Kola Boof's insistence and because they were talented. What kind of evil monster are we talking about here that seeks book deals for total strangers?

I know Kola Boof personally and have been with her for many years. I have been with her through pregnancies, we've fought brutally over Kola accusing my black husband of marrying me because he's colorstruck, we've cooked and eaten together, she is my daughter's godmother, through the media scrutiny over her personal life, through reporters making up elaborate lies about this woman and trying to spread those lies "underground" rather than out in the open where they could be shot down.

Kola Boof's only crime is that she is a strong opinionated black woman who raises issues and views that threaten the status of others, she is also more ambitious than any man I've ever met and people hate her for being ambitious.

Kola Boof is a wonderful mother and she's one of the sweetest people I have ever known. She's also uncompromisingly real.



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The poster here named Crystal met me in Los Angeles at a Book Event for Kola Boof in 2003, she can vouch for who I am.



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I'm not going any further.

I hope that Troy Johnson reads my comments about Thumper.

My reason for being here is to make it known that Kola Boof is a wonderful mother, a loving and loyal friend and one of the sweetest people I have ever known.

I will vouch for Kola's generosity, beauty, intelligence and talent any day of the week.



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What Ever Nafisa_goma Kola Spoof (real person my ass) - It looks like your Nafisa character is just another fruit loop female that posts their pic on internet discussion forums

Don't know how someone that supposedly met "you" four years ago can attest to who is actually behind your keyboard, but keep grasping at straws, I'm sure there's somebody here who believes you.


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Nafissa,

From what I have read about and have seen of Kola, she is a very passionate and damaged woman. Yes, she is damaged but the thing is...she admits it. Her ranting and raving do NOT move me. I try looking past the bullshyt and focus on the stuff she can tell me about her homeland. Now I do not have the history that she has with others on here so I can only speak for me. Basically, I find her intelligent and very open about herself. I like that part of her and that is what draws me to her.
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Americansista,

Thanks so much for replying without a personal insult. :-)


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Is your homeland the Sudan, Americansista??? I sorta kinda thought that like the rest of America's slave descendants, West Africa would be your homeland.
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Americansista, I corrected my last post. You're the only one who replies without personal insults.



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Troy,

Troy: Despite being banned several weeks recently, Kola Boof has posted more times, under various names, than anyone else in the history of this board bar – none.

"Various names"? Does this mean different accounts - like in "trolls"? Or are you referring to the "names" she's already admitted to like "Snakegirl"?
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Poor sweet clueless Tonya :-)
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OFF TOPIC

Nafisa Goma wrote:

If we sound alike to you, then it's not uncommon for authors and their book editors to have semi-similar writing patterns.

Excuse me, Ms. Goma, but that is one of the biggest falsehoods of editing. Only an amateur editor would make such an outrageous claim.

The first rule of editing is to make absolutely certain that you never rob your author of his/her distinct "literary voice." It is a glaring mark of an inexperienced editor when s/he edits and strips the author of his/her personal flair. A pro can and does edit a ms with the foremost purpose of remaining true to the heart and soul of the author, rather than making the author "sound" like the editor.

If your writing "sounds" in any way like Kola's writing because you're her editor then, quite frankly, you've done Ms. Boof a disservice.

Please understand that I'm not posting this as a putdown to you, but as a service to the many aspiring writers who frequent this forum. Misinformation is prevalent on the internet. And many aspiring writers' greatest fear is losing control of their work, their art, their style, their vision, when their ms is accepted for publication. In REAL publishing, by professionals, that doesn't happen.

A professional editor's reading schedule works thusly:

First Reading: editor familiarizes her/himself with the story (makes notes)

Second Reading: editor familiarizes her/himself with the author's "voice" (makes notes)

Third Reading: editor begins preliminary editing

Fourth Reading: second round of editing to catch anything s/he may have missed the first time around

Fifth Reading: editor finalizes editing, prepares proofs to send to author

Author considers editor's suggestions and makes revisions accordingly. Author returns ms to editor by deadline.

Sixth Reading: editor checks author's revisions. Futher editing may be necessary. If not, editor now submits ms to copyeditor for fact-checking and proofreading. Copyeditor does his/her job then returns ms to editor. Editor sends another set of proofs to author. Author looks them over and is satisfied. Manuscript is finalized. Editor now turns ms over to the art department for cover design, page layout, and typography.

That's the way REAL editing works at a REAL publishing house, even at the better small-midsize publishers such as Soho Press, Soft Skull Press, Samhain, Behler, Belletristic Press, and Zumaya - to name a few. This explains why each book takes about a year-and-a-half from acceptance to publication.
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Mzuri,

I really am a bit lost on that one, lol. I think I'm reading it wrong.
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Ms. Scribe,

Kola and I have been personal friends for more than 10 years, and yes we do sound alike.

The difference is that she has no education whatsoever and had to be taught English and then how to structure the beautiful and lyrical images that she creates. Does that make sense to you as an Editor?

Several of her books are considered classics by many noted literary icons who've put it in writing. Are you denying that her books are critically and socially acclaimed?

Some of the people who've called her gifted are Noam Chomsky, Ishmael Reed, Derrick Bell, Molefi Kete Asante, Chinweizu and many other scholars.

I edited those books. I am a REAL editor.

Kola's work appears in two anthologies from Alexander Street Press "Black Women Writers" and "Black Short Fiction".

Kola Boof's work appears alongside Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, Maya Angelou, Edwidge Danticat and Ama Ata Aidoo in the 2005/2006 editions of those anthologies.

Were you not aware of that, Ms. Scribe?

Door of Kush was formed in 2004 and has published quite a few books in a short time. Our books are carried worldwide by Ingram and Baker and Taylor and we have other talented authors beside Ms. Boof who are regulars on this board. Are we not real publishers?

Kola Boof's books from "Door of Kush" are taught at the following Universities:

Cornel University
Brown University
Northwestern University
Yale University
Princeton University

Oxford University, England
Pollivers Institute, England
Baybridge Catholic, England

University of Sydney, Australia

University of New Zealand, New Zealand

Suffolk Women's Studies, Johannesburg South Africa
Partridge College, South Africa

University of Lagos, Nigeria
Heinmen Writer's College, Nigeria
Lagos School for Women, Nigeria

University of Accra, Ghana

Berlin University, Germany
University of Frankfurt, Germany
Bonn Women's School, Germany
Stuttgart Literary School, Germany

Tokyo World Trade University, Japan



These are just a few, Ms. Scribe.


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These books are taught at YALE and PRINCETON:







Are you saying that YALE and PRINCETON aren't real schools and that these aren't real books
by a real publisher Ms. Scribe?



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I edited Kola Boof's work that appears in the
following anthologies.

Toni Morrison, Maya Angelou, Alice Walker,
Kola Boof, Octavia Butler


Chinua Achebe, Kola Boof, J. California Cooper, Alice Walker, James Baldwin, Wole Soyinka



I edited the work that appears in these books, Ms. Scribe.

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So yes there's a reason that Kola and I write and sound the same way and yes I am going to defend Kola's reputation 100%.

That's what friends are for.



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Nafisted_gumcrabs, you're stretching the truth.

Judging from what I'd read about Alexander Street Press, they are just a step up from vanity publishing.

Door of Kush IS vanity publishing. So is Seaburn. These remarks are not coming from someone who is "jealous" of Kola's "achievements"--if you can call what she has written an actual achievement of anything....

"EVERY LITTLE BIT HURTS"

In broad daylight
I am expected to see nothing.
I am a girl; low and dark
as the crease of shadow from
which I swam.
I have no hair like
the Arab woman (whose hair
is like silk and smells
like snot)--and when the
White woman comes to my face
(ME/the Black man's mother)--I think
of the penis.

The men want us to hate one
another. It makes them
feel safe...to have the
White (day) and the
Black (night) denying the
flowsongs of blood--THE RIVER

every little bit
hurts, God.
In Africa--we have no
cold oceans/We accept
that you made us
from fire

We sing to the lioness
and pray for when
the hate will go away--in
broad daylight
(from where it came)

O GOD, darkest father!
We are Black Men's daughters;
wet, tired and hungry.
At our heels the demon snaps
mightily no matter
what beam of wind we direct; what
beam of Sun we deflect

For out of bare breasts
our hearts are LEAPING
of warm oceans: the brown eyes
of our daughters
staring into the stretchmark of
a blue body's sorrow.

We kiss it up to God. Because
every little bit hurts.

The poem above is supposed to be among her best. God, what the hell does her worst sound like? Those of us who have went over her books, saw the typos, bad grammar, etc. know full well that stuff this inferior and fourth-rate can and will not be used even in a community college, let alone Harvard or Oxford. Kola Boof is a pathological liar. This asswipe claimed my mother was a white prostitute, that my father was colorstruck and a "faggot," and even bragged on one post about how she supposedly saw me with prostate cancer. And let's not even go into all of her b.s. about me supposedly being obsessed with white women or Latin or Arab women simply because of a few pics I posted. This woman has a pathetically fragile ego, in fact is quite insane, and sounds like she needs institutionalization rather than a chance to post her chickenshit ramblings on this message board, and boring the hell out of all of us who can still think.
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WELL LET ME TELL YOU IF KOLA LEAVES I'M GONE!!! AND THAT IS NOT A THREAT BUT A PROMISE!!!

KOLA IS THE REASON WHY I POST ON THIS BOARD!!

I LOVE KOLA THE WAY I LOVE EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD!! GRANTED THERE ARE PPL THAT I DON'T LIKE BUT I RESPECT THEIR OPINION'S.

AND NO ONE PERSON SHOULD BE BANNED BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, OR ONE THAT IS NOT "POPULAR" WITH EVERYONE ELSES!!

I think Kola is a very interesting person. And losing her would be like losing a big part of this board!
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Tonya:

We see what we want to see. Look at this thread and try to spot the troll

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/11222/14445.html




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Hmmmm...I guess it's just a coicindence that Mzuri likes using that $2 Korean Wig Line and Stank Slutty Crusty butt/ass and fucktard that Maze used. Oh well...anything is possible on this board. He he he he.

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=62252#POST62252

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=179&post=90994#POST90994

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=71378#POST71378

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=62499#POST62499
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I'm already bending over folks....
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Actually Jackie - There is no coincidence. I've been calling Kola crusty ass ever since she posted the pic of her rear (which I won't post here now). And yes, I've used the $2 Korean wig line ever since Kola used it. So what?

Next time, why don't you put on your thinking cap. Why would I post a link to some shit that would incriminate me of wrongdoing? You should probably leave the boardie detective work alone.


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Nafisa, who proof read Flesh And Devil ?
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My, my, my...

I vote no, and only because it won't make much difference anyway. Banned or not, Kola's presence will forever dominate this board. As well, it really is quite easy to ignore her if one so chooses, although that clearly doesn't have the same appeal as going toe-to-toe with her does.
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Absolutely not. Do not ban Kola.
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I guess even if she is banned, she'll always find a way to come back, because she's like poison.
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Don't ban her. In fact, don't ban anyone. This board provides a balance of intellectual discourse and pure comedy. Banning posters will disrupt that balance. Who knows who is telling the truth on message boards. Who cares? We are all online personas, nothing more. Let's leave it at that.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 08:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A_womon, ”Kola you should show Troy more respect as he is the founder of this spot” I agree with you on this one. While it is not a defined rule, common sense, courtesy tells you that. That does not mean you have to agree with me or even like me.

There were never a rule banning someone from using more than one alias, but it got out of hand. Posters were suspecting other poster of conversing with themselves so I strongly discourage this and try to prevent it today.

Yes, Cynique I did evoke “authority as the HNIC authority. Kola made a post where she said “I will not ban her”. Again this takes a lot of balls to make a statement like that (the motivation for it still escapes me). I was going to ban her, again permanently, right then and there. But I decided not to. I wanted to find out what the other posters thought. Because if you want her around I’ll allow her to post. My position is that she be banned (requires too much maintenance for me). However I’ll, take one for the team, and allow her to post if you all want her to. I’ll just ignore her until she breaks another rule – which she I believe she inevitably would.

I’ve felt compelled to say this on more than one occasion as a result of Kola antics but I’ll say it again: “Kola Boof does not run these discussion boards”.

At the same time, like Americansista, I too also enjoyed many of Kolas posts. But I know and have already demonstrated the board will go on without Kola. It will be different, as it is different without Thumpers voice but it will certainly go on. If I only looked at traffic Kola absence or presence has no measurable impact.

Mzuri, I do not think Kola, despite the threats was going to physically harm you. Also, I never retain credit card information and I would NOT give away your address even to Kola.

Nafisa_goma, You sads first “first” I did not. “Caged Animal”, “horrible ogre” are your words not mine. If you want “fair” move to another planet. Look, what Kola said about Thumper on “His” board was WAY out of proportion with what he may have written about book. Kola was merciless and relentless. It seemed, to me, her goal was to run Thumper off the board which she very nearly did.

Thumper has pissed off other writers and made many others happy, with his unique style of reviewing books. Some of these authors even reacted to those unfavorable reviews on this board – but Kola’s reaction way off the freaking chain. Still I allowed her to post. If you wanted “Fair” – Kola would have been gone a long time ago.

Now I ask you, how did Thumper get Kola’s book in the first place? Do you expect everybody to react favorably to the books YOU edited.

I see you offered no justification for Kola’s, more recent, treatment of Kam.

Nafisa_goma I believe you are sincere. I also believe you are dense. You nor Kola appreciate (or maybe you just don’t give a shit) about my position. I’m sure Kola is a nice person cooks well, and is passionate – but that is not the freaking point -- Jesus!

Urban_scribe – good point. Most books, it seems, do not go through such a thorough process. Interesting topic for another thread

Schakspir – interesting point.

That is why I love this board – people statement will be challenged.

Fortified – the reality of the situation is that people MUST be banned. It is naïve to believe otherwise. I’m not saying Kola is one of these who must be banned -- hence the thread. But I have banned other the most common reason is spamming the board.

Peace,
Troy
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 09:08 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Who knows who is telling the truth on message boards. Who cares?"

Quoted for truth.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 09:09 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy, it seems like you have been fair, and that if it was up to you, she would be banned. But as it stands, the majority of us that have voted have said NO. If she is not banned, then perhaps if she chooses to return her behavior will change enough that she can both accommodate the site's rules and at the same time be herself. Change is only good when it induces growth, but if she loses her Kolaness, her integrity, then she should not come back because that means she will be trying to hard.
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quote:

Is your homeland the Sudan, Americansista??? I sorta kinda thought that like the rest of America's slave descendants, West Africa would be your homeland.




'Morning, Cyn. You're right, west Africa are where my ancestors are from.

Troy, please clear something up for me. Are you the adopted brother of Kola? She says you two are brothers but they way you talk (i.e., "I'm sure she's a nice person, cooks well, etc.) seems as though you don't know her or has ever met her.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 11:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy,

I agree NO ONE is bigger than the board. Not even Kola. So if you won't allow her to be and do here what she requires, perhaps it's best that she and the Board part company.

And I'm sure Kola and Thumper's Corner will do just fine.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 12:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Troy. I'm sure my contact information is safe but it was a PayPal transaction and those are saved forever in the PayPal account.

And since Kola claims to be your sister plus she hacks into computers:

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11222&post=61882#POST61882

one never knows.


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Door of Kush IS vanity publishing. So is Seaburn. These remarks are not coming from someone who is "jealous" of Kola's "achievements"--if you can call what she has written an actual achievement of anything....

Shakspir--

(Of course you know nothing of what you speak. Door of Kush published my book, A Vampyre Blues and I did not pay them a dime.

I signed a standard author's contract with them, the details of which are none of your goddam beezwax, and again, I did not pay them a dime.

I did not pay them a dime for the artwork on the cover (I thought it was wack until I remembered that it was a scene from the book) which cost quite a lot--the exact amount is none of your goddam beezwax.

With a vanity publisher, you pay. And, as I understand it, you get thousands of books and you got to move them. I didn't have to do none of that.

If you don't know, you need to ask somebody. They could sue you for damages for making such false statements--I'll leave that to them.

Nothing you can do could damage my rep--
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Plus they posted it on Amazon. Put it on their website. Bunches of other stuff I didn't pay a DIME for.

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Abm wrote:
So if you won't allow her to be and do here what she requires, perhaps it's best that she and the Board part company.


That's just it. She can't be allowed to be and do here what she requires, as it goes against the rules and standards of the board. You post on a board, you got to follow the rules of the board, no matter what your name maybe or how many books you have penned or how many worshipers you have or whatever.

She has proven in the past, several times over, to do what she's been asked not to do, by the board owner. She has lied on the site owner, and other posters, she has posted pornographic photos, she has cursed others out on a whim, or if they disagreed with her opinion, she has posted on several different aliases, she was asked not to post on Thumper's area, yet she continued to do so, under another name, ETC. Why should such behavior be encouraged and condoned?

If she came into anyone's home, on this board, and allowed to be and do as she's requires (or done as she's done on this board), all of us would asked her to leave long ago or would have thrown her out. This is about respect.

As I stated before, she's only does what she does, because she been *allowed* to do so.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 03:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jmho,

Kola's a great talent. She's a wonderful, published author. She even helped get two other foks here get published.

Kola’s a brave BRAVE woman who has taken very PUBLIC stands on Sudan Genocide, radical Islam, female infibulation, colorism and others that few of the rest of us had much even thought about, much less risk Fatwas & sh*t for that she has.

She’s profoundly broaden our perspective of Africa, of the very source of the Blackness we African Americans cloak ourselves in WHILE knowing so little about.

And she's been far more open about her REAL self than anyone else here. We know things about this woman faults that you’d have to nearly kill most of the rest of us to cop to. That’s largely why it so difficult for some of us to remain angry about what she does.


Kola’s done some awful, hurtful things. No doubt. And though I understand the source and rationale behind much of it, I don’t make any excuses for that. There are certain expressed and implied rules of decorum we’re all made to abide. And when we fail to observe them, we expose ourselves to being shunned and scorned.

Still (I think like Americansista mention) I balance Kola’s Pros and her Cons. And for ME, her Pros VASTLY outstrip her Cons.


Now. Can this site survive and even thrive in her absence? Sure it can and it will. It did before she was around. And it will after she long gone.

But her not being here will be lessen the overall quality of the spirit and tenor of this site. It will lose some of its heart and its soul. Kola's departure will leave a hole here at Thumper’s Corner that will not EVER be filled.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 03:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There were never a rule banning someone from using more than one alias, but it got out of hand. Posters were suspecting other poster of conversing with themselves so I strongly discourage this and try to prevent it today.

I'm glad. I know everybody's saying "It's a message boards, who cares if people are telling the truth?"

Well, I care.

Call me gullible or whatever but I like believing I can trust people to a certain extent. Lying for no reason is just weird to me. It's not what I'm used to.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

You think Kola's the ONLY who has frequently posted here over the years done what appear to be some blatantly dishonest and disreputable things?
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Oh, jeeze. Break out the kleenex. All poor ol ABM has to do rectify the hole left by kola's absence is to fill it up with his cyber penis and ejaculate her legacy every chance he gets. EU
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm wrote:
Still (I think like Americansista mention) I balance Kola’s Pros and her Cons. And for ME, her Pros VASTLY outstrip her Cons.

We can agree to disagree. And, given all the lies she had told over the years, we (well, I guess I need to only speak for myself) have no idea what's true or not, and frankly, at this junction, I don't care, nor do I care about the source or rationale behind any of her words or actions.


Abm wrote:
But her not being here will be lessen the overall quality of the spirit and tenor of this site. It will lose some of its heart and its soul. Kola's departure will leave a hole here at Thumper’s Corner that will not EVER be filled.

Again, we can agree to disagree.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jmho: "...we can agree to disagree."


Indeed. :-)
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Chrishayden: Of course you know nothing of what you speak. Door of Kush published my book, A Vampyre Blues and I did not pay them a dime.

I signed a standard author's contract with them, the details of which are none of your goddam beezwax, and again, I did not pay them a dime.

I did not pay them a dime for the artwork on the cover (I thought it was wack until I remembered that it was a scene from the book) which cost quite a lot--the exact amount is none of your goddam beezwax.

With a vanity publisher, you pay. And, as I understand it, you get thousands of books and you got to move them. I didn't have to do none of that.

If you don't know, you need to ask somebody. They could sue you for damages for making such false statements--I'll leave that to them.

Nothing you can do could damage my rep--

Schakspir: My mistake.
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Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


The truth about trust is that once it's been lost, it can never be regained. So when someone (who has professed their honesty and credibility) speaks/writes with a forky tongue about simple dumb shit, a reasonable person would have to wonder if everything they ever said is a lie. Especially when that person consistently weaves astonishing tales that don't make sense anyway. And as to the forum sock puppets, you have a person who has multiple known identities, multiple admitted identities, do we honestly believe that she hasn't created sock puppets that she won't admit to. Here's another admission just to make my point:

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/11222/14387.html?1154996784

"I enlisted "TruthDays" to back me up, because
I didn't want Mzuri and Juelz to win their
ridiculous accusations."


Enlisted as in "pulled out of her ass."

And here's one more sock puppet:

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/11222/13436.html?1154285415

How soon we forget.


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That's just the thing about Kola's "legacy" that pisses me off. It's completely false. She NEVER had an affair with Osama Bin Laden and Sayyid Qutb(who died before she was supposedly born). Osama Bin Laden never visited Morocco. He never had a fetish about Whitney Houston. There is no such thing as a Gisi-Waaq tribe; all such information about the tribe I try to dig up was written by Kola herself. She has never starred in any sex movies in North Africa, as even softcore porno is banned(even in Morocco); her earlier "Moroccan" publishers can't be verified because of some strange fire, etc. Even this business concerning her true name is questionable--she admits she named herself Kola Boof, but the Naima bint-Warith stuff--please. Was she born in 1969 or 1972? And if she is the public figurehead, spokseperson against "Arab" genocide of Darfurians, member of South Sudanese Liberation Army, then what the hell is she doing here?

I have known people like this in the every day world. They are exceedingly busy. They do NOT have time to waste scribbling chickenshit on a message board. People all over the world who have half a brain have questioned her excessive use of profanities(which looks like Tourette's Syndrome)and her posting wacky obscene pics(which I admittedly did here in retaliation). Outside of this board, Keith Boykin's brain, and a few other places, NO ONE TAKES HER SERIOUSLY. Keith Boykin's fascination with Kola is just a gay thing(a lot of gay men are fascinated with headstrong, bitchy, over-the-top diva types, eg., Liza Minnelli and Judy Garland, Pam Grier, Diana Ross). So that's the gist of my complaint about Kola Boof, aka Nafisa Goma, aka Ja--- M---g-n. It's totally bogus.

(The last name I posted is her real one.)
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Then again, Chris Hayden, you didn't need to get so goddamned defensive about your publisher. So what if it's "none of my g-d beesewax?" You think I really care? I've been scribbling professionally for 22 years. You DON'T need to remind me how this business works. Most publishers suck. Both of mine did. (The second one was myself, and I admit that I'm not f/ucking Random House.) The first one was the Fiction Collective and though they've been around since 1974, and published writers as esteemed as Ronald Sukenick(the founder) and Samuel Delany, they can't even sell a title if their lives were threatened. I have done a better job selling/promoting my shit on my own. All I know is that when my novel starts taking off later this year, I won't seek out Door of Kush to do any reprints. No offense, but all I need to do is look at my own self-published book and the quality of it, and the quality of Door of Kush's productions, and see clearly that your publisher falls way short.
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Schakspir,

Does the SHELLACKING you just got from Chris means that you're a liar...that we shouldn't believe your claims anymore than we believe those of Kola's?

Should YOU be banned...as well?
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ChrisHayden wrote "Door of Kush published my book, A Vampyre Blues and I did not pay them a dime."

Upfront.

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Mzuri, I should have thought of that. Just one word would have done!
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Shellacking, my ass. That was a knee-jerk defense reaction by somebody who is unusually defensive about his publisher. And upon further investigation, I looked up "A Vampyre Blues" on Amazon. It got three reviews, all of them extremely negative. Two of them were written by KIDS!! Don't just take my word for it--

http://www.amazon.com/Vampyre-Blues-Passion-Varnado/dp/0971201943/ref=sr_1_2/103 -4627138-7807836?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174080191&sr=1-2

When I say that these guys at Door of Kush suck balls, I'm talking about what I know. The number of typos in MY book you can count on one hand.

Me, a liar? I don't give a shit whether you think I'm a liar or not. I wonder if YOU are the hallowed fountain of truth you imagine yourself to be because if you lived the life you claim you do, you wouldn't be licking Kola's butt-crack so slavishly. Your suggestion that I be banned has less to do with my supposed "lying" and more to do with you loathing me for calling out Kola on her dumb bullshit.
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I deleted the previous post for some typos. No offense to whomever gave me the rating.
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Schak - I don't know how vanity/subsidy publishers operate, but I'm sure that they don't all operate in the exact same manner. And since Door of Kush doesn't even have a friggen proper domain/website, it's not like they have any operating expenses. They could be going the print on demand route. Again, no operating expenses.


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They use 50megs.com. What the hell is that? Is this publishing house run by teenagers?
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Schakspir,

First. Chris kicked your a$$ all up/down the joint. Be a frickin' MAN about some sh*t and cop to it, Rochester.

Now. You're the one who wants to go around asserting what is and isn't truthful. I don't. That's boring to me.

Like I know much less care to give a fuhk what you think about how truthful I'm being.

If something I express here is important enuff for you to know about, the INTELLEGENT thing for you to do is research it for your dayamself. Not go squawking up behind some WOMAN like a little ol' bit.ch or something.

There are writers lying all over the frickin' joint. Hell. Oprah help one of them sell 3 million books. Yet you are hellbent on disproving this ONE woman.

Man. The ONLY gotdayam reason you even appear on this site is to Kola-bash. The sh*ts so gotdayam predictably redundant that it's a waste of time to read your sh*t.

Take now, for example. Where were YOU bruh PRIOR to this recent flare up about banning Kola? I'll bet a good 85% of the posting you do here relates directingly or indirectly to criticizing Kola.

Truth is. You begrudge Kola's superior literary talents. And you begrudge the attention she can draw to herself.

You, dude, are what my daughters scornfully call a HATER.
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Abm: Schakspir,

First. Chris kicked your a$$ all up/down the joint. Be a frickin' MAN about some sh*t and cop to it, Rochester.

Schakspir: Oh, he did? Please explain. Explain how a middle-aged, embittered old creep who can't write, has a prostate the size of a canteloupe and picks squabbles with elderly women(and whose books get trashed by twelve year old kids)is going to hand me MY ass. That ought to be good. The truth is, you Iceberg Slim wannabe, he blew off a lot of steam without any substance. Period. Thank you. (And by the way, it's ASS, not a$$.)

Abm: Now. You're the one who wants to go around asserting what is and isn't truthful. I don't. That's boring to me.

Like I know much less care to give a fuhk what you think about how truthful I'm being.

Schakspir: Agreed. Since your breath smells like Kola's anus I'm sure the truth means very little to you.

Abm: If something I express here is important enuff for you to know about, the INTELLEGENT thing for you to do is research it for your dayamself. Not go squawking up behind some WOMAN like a little ol' bit.ch or something.

Schakspir: Gee. Shows you how much consideration you have for women!

And FYI pimp-daddy, I visit this board often enough to know what the hell's going on; I've researched that big ugly she-dude Kola enough to know who and what she really is. I'll bet you don't even know what her REAL name is.

Abm: There are writers lying all over the frickin' joint. Hell. Oprah help one of them sell 3 million books. Yet you are hellbent on disproving this ONE woman.

Schakspir: Why drag Oprah into this? You are skirting around the main point, dude. Your pal is a psychopath and a LIAR. Period. Why is that so difficult for you to--oh, yes, yes. I know. Love is horribly blind. I entered the fray here because after reading what Kola wrote, I automatically smelled a fraud, a possible government agent trying to spread lies and disinformation. Yet in your scrambled-up head you somehow find something noble and courageous in what she's doing. Give me a f/ucking break.

Abm: Man. The ONLY gotdayam reason you even appear on this site is to Kola-bash. The sh*ts so gotdayam predictably redundant that it's a waste of time to read your sh*t.

Schakspir: Talk about redundancy. Reading your crappy pseudo-hip faux-ghetto sweet nothings to Kola(or Angelina Jolie)makes most of us want to puke.

Abm: Take now, for example. Where were YOU bruh PRIOR to this recent flare up about banning Kola? I'll bet a good 85% of the posting you do here relates directingly or indirectly to criticizing Kola.

Schakspir: Where was I? Living my goddamn life. Writing, painting, bringing in the bacon, etc. What were YOU doing?

You are correct about my posts being mostly anti-Kola. But then again, Kola has PROVOKED far more than she has received by way of negativity and insults. She's even insulted Troy. Not that you care.

Abm: Truth is. You begrudge Kola's superior literary talents. And you begrudge the attention she can draw to herself.

Schakspir: You must be high.

Abm: You, dude, are what my daughters scornfully call a HATER.

Schakspir: And you are what my British pals in Berlin call a f/ucking WANKER....You have brains, but you can't get Kola's crusty buns off them to save your own hide.
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Scuse You - Nate by P. Lewis was selected as a winner of the twenty-seventh annual American Book Awards for 2006.

http://reviews.aalbc.com/nate.htm

Which is more than can be said for Kola Spoof.

Now - There's a major difference between Schak's "squawking" behind some WOMAN who speaks TRUTH and YOUR DIMWITTED ASS squealing behind some CHRONIC PSYCHOTIC PATHOLOGICAL L-I-A-R - but sadly for you it's beyond your level of comprehension.


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http://www.bookweb.org/news/awards/1293.html

http://www.tayarijones.com/blog/archives/2006/10/the_before_colu.html

http://www.pw.org/mag/0701/recentwinners.htm

http://www.guidelive.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/books/stories/DN-bk_whatimreading _0114gl.ART.State.Bulldog.3d5550b.html

I usually don't toot my own horns, but a couple of you asked for it....
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Toot your horn got dammit. At least your shit is real.
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That'll teach chrishayden to "pick squabbles with elderly women". ROTFLOL
And I never found anything that Shakspir posted "boring". I always look forward to reading what he has to say because it was usually quite ijuicy as opposed to the self-important prating of kola's knight in dull armor. And so it goes.
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"Man. The ONLY gotdayam reason you even appear on this site is to Kola-bash. The sh*ts so gotdayam predictably redundant that it's a waste of time to read your sh*t.

Take now, for example. Where were YOU bruh PRIOR to this recent flare up about banning Kola? I'll bet a good 85% of the posting you do here relates directingly or indirectly to criticizing Kola."

Perfectly said.

All he does is measure his self by others i.e. Kola.


"That's just the thing about Kola's "legacy" that pisses me off. It's completely false. She NEVER had an affair with Osama Bin Laden and Sayyid Qutb(who died before she was supposedly born). Osama Bin Laden never visited Morocco. He never had a fetish about Whitney Houston. There is no such thing as a Gisi-Waaq tribe; all such information about the tribe I try to dig up was written by Kola herself. She has never starred in any sex movies in North Africa, as even softcore porno is banned(even in Morocco); her earlier "Moroccan" publishers can't be verified because of some strange fire, etc. Even this business concerning her true name is questionable--she admits she named herself Kola Boof, but the Naima bint-Warith stuff--please. Was she born in 1969 or 1972? And if she is the public figurehead, spokseperson against "Arab" genocide of Darfurians, member of South Sudanese Liberation Army, then what the hell is she doing here?

I have known people like this in the every day world. They are exceedingly busy. They do NOT have time to waste scribbling chickenshit on a message board. People all over the world who have half a brain have questioned her excessive use of profanities(which looks like Tourette's Syndrome)and her posting wacky obscene pics(which I admittedly did here in retaliation). Outside of this board, Keith Boykin's brain, and a few other places, NO ONE TAKES HER SERIOUSLY. Keith Boykin's fascination with Kola is just a gay thing(a lot of gay men are fascinated with headstrong, bitchy, over-the-top diva types, eg., Liza Minnelli and Judy Garland, Pam Grier, Diana Ross). So that's the gist of my complaint about Kola Boof, aka Nafisa Goma, aka Ja--- M---g-n. It's totally bogus."

You sound bitter, and it's almost as if you see her as a threat.


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NO
LiLi
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BB123, you always show up at the perfect moment to help out your little friend everytime she gets pulled apart by us thinking people. Get a brain. You non-thinking cyborgs have issues.
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Would you rather I be like you and show up at the perfect moment putting all my effort and energy into being negative and tearing someone down all the time?
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Booty did you have any original thoughts or commentary besides critiquing grown folks with your peanut gallery brainfarts?



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Troy,

I would honestly like to know why wasn't the issue addressed whether or not Mzuri should be banned as well...she uses profanity & harasses Kola in EVERY single thread with her spamming and large fonts. She provokes a lot of the drama that involves Kola...how could you overlook that?
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Booty - For your information - Kola Spoof is up for being banned for lying and posting false information, because it's against forum policy. Not for her use of profanity.

Now smart ass, please post your links where I instigated something with Kola. And after you do, I'll post links where Kola has harrassed and lied against me, since you obviously missed that part.

And BTW, there aren't any rules against using large fonts - dingbat!!! I'm using BBC provided by this very site.

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/discus.cgi?pg=formatting

Simple !!!


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Here's a couple to get you started - numbnuts!!!

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/21636.html

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=179&post=91386#POST91386

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/24727.html#POST91953

http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=179&post=92232#POST92232

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/21536.html#POST84931

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/21773.html?1169624262


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BB123: Would you rather I be like you and show up at the perfect moment putting all my effort and energy into being negative and tearing someone down all the time?

Schakspir: Or would you rather I be like you--and defend a crackpot and schizophrenic who drives people nuts with her weird erotic fantasies of getting bonked by Arab terrorists???
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Booty - You need to come on back and substantiate your little rant against me with some facts.
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Schakspir vs. ABM, priceless made my day. Like professional heavyweights.

Schakspir I found your point interesting because I was not sure it was true -- but you seemed so adamant. I'm glad Chris cleared that up and I'm glad you acknowledged it.

Brownbeauty123, Mizuri does not cause me as much grief as Kola does. I do not ban people for swearing (obviously). I evoked a featured to blank out straight up curse words, but folks are smart enough to subvert my filter through clever typing. In my mind this is not significant enough to ban someone.

Mizuri I should make you the site Historian. I never read the How To Pretend You Have A Pretend Boyfriend conversation http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/11222/14445.html it was very funny. I miss so much here.

Serenasailor Kola is not being considered for banning because of an opposing opinions. Actually it is her typically opposing opinions for which she is praised.

Serenasailor why do you think a couple of people have suggested that I ban you.

Clearly people do not want Kola Banned. I only got a few lurker (don’t you just love that word, lurker in this context) emails regarding Kola. None of them wanted Kolas banned. It does not look like Kola will be banned at the rate we are going.

Alas, it may be academic, as she said she will not be back.

Thank you all.
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Kola Boof had me to prepare this and post it. I wrote it, but she dictated 90% of what I wrote here.

Over the years, Kola Boof has appeared on numerous radio interviews (all in all about 500 radio interviews) and she's always praised Troy Johnson and plugged his web site.

She also did this on national television appearances, but her comments about AALBC were edited out.

When she gave lectures at Universities in Washington D.C., at UCLA, in Detroit and San Diego, she praised Troy Johnson and his web site.

In ALL of her published books, she stated that she loves Troy Johnson for helping black children read and for helping bring literature to the black community. She described Troy Johnson as a hero of the black community and she thanked him in quite a few of her books for promoting her career.

In light of Ms. Boof's years long battle with Mzuri, Kola feels incredibly betrayed by Troy Johnson's constantly taking Mzuri's side against Kola. He berates and attacks Kola's "character" and her "acting out" but has not one single time called out Mzuri.

This woman has written that Kola's little boys have AIDS, she posted photos of their father calling him "monkey" and yet Mr. Johnson doesn't expect Kola Boof to be upset or react to that.

He just posted the following:

Mizuri I should make you the site Historian. I never read the How To Pretend You Have A Pretend Boyfriend conversation http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/11222/14445.html it was very funny. I miss so much here.

This is a thread that makes fun of Kola Boof quite viciously, Ms. Boof is nowhere in the thread and it makes fun of Ms. Boof's two children who I know to be very handsome, intelligent little black boys.

Why would Ms. Boof not be very hurt by this attitude on Mr. Johnson's part--that it's the funniest thing he's ever read?

Ms. Boof ONLY began attacking Mzuri's "mother", AFTER Mzuri kept envoking Kola's children and their father (who Mzuri called an "ugly monkey"}.

Last year, Mzuri pretended to be "Kola Boof" by posting under her name and when Ms. Boof and when Ms. Boof emailed Mr. Johnson about 20 times over it, he said that he didn't have time to go and see what she was talking about.

Mzuri has created many "trolls" on this board and attributed them to Kola Boof--people just take Mzuri's word and they believe her without question. They blame Kola for things that Ms. Boof has not even done.

Troy Johnson claims he should make Mzuri the "historian"--but is Mr. Johnson aware that Jamaal Lewis appeared on the Adam Carolla show and claimed to have been dating Kola Boof?

Furthermore, is Mr. Johnson aware that in Ms. Boof's interview with Kam Williams, she set the record straight by telling the truth that she has not been "romantic" with Jamaal Lewis and that even though she was interviewed on Tiki Barber's radio show and their "chemistry" set the airwaves ablaze according to listeners (Mr. Barber told Sports Illustrated that Kola Boof was his favorite interview of the entire year 2006), Ms. Boof "squashed rumors" by telling Kam Williams that she's never even met Tiki Barber.

So where is your Historian's credibility, Mr. Johnson, and if Ms. Boof is such a larcenous liar, why didn't she take those two opportunities to get some publicity for herself? Jamaal Lewis left the door wide open by saying he was "doing" her---why didn't Kola milk that TROY JOHNSON?

Is your wife, Troy Johnson, a "pretend wife"?

The fact is, there is a very huge misunderstanding that has been allowed to get out of proportion by Mr. Johnson's assumption that Ms. Boof is the one starting all these board wars. He knows Kola can be very difficult and confrontational, so without reading the actual board, he just assumes that Kola is the "villain" whenever there is a problem, and he only reads Kola's retaliation against the people attacking her.

He forgets how VICIOUSLY Thumper attacked Kola Boof---but blames Kola for SLAYING Thumper, as if she shouldn't slay a person who was attempting to keep her from posting on the board.

Thumper went after Kola's jugular, attacking and BANNING HER over a 3 year period, and she cut his balls off. Thumper got what he asked for.

Schakspir is one of the biggest liars on this board.

He claims that Kola Boof's real name is Janet Milligan.

NO--her real name is Naima Bint Harith.

He claims that Kola Boof was "brainwashed" by the CIA (he reports this quite seriously).

Door of Kush is a tiny California publishing house owned by Cornel Chesney and ran by Robert Wright. Those who listen to Stevie Wonder's radio station "KJLH" heard the actual on-air formation of the publishing company, as Mr. Chesney originally started the house to publish Ms. Boof's book "Long Train" that had been firebombed and forced out of print in Morocco.

Several copies of the KJLH radio interview were sent to Troy Johnson, our company has consistently supported AALBC, yet Mr. Johnson thinks Schakspir's comments about our company are "hilarious".

Schakspir has posted photos of "monkeys" and "racist depictions of black children" and stated that these are Kola Boof's two sons.

Schakspir has said that Kola Boof is so ugly she looks like a man (which is upgraded from his earlier claims that she really is a man).

*How many black women have noticed the sudden assertion that any black woman that speaks her mind is really a "man" or that all black women look like "men".

This is everywhere lately as "black men's magazines" have recently written that Angela Bassett, Usher's fiance, Ciara, Naomi Campbell, Serena Williams, Patti LaBelle, Omorosa and Mary J. Blige "look like men" or as one magazine wrote of Naomi Campbell--"that tranny look".

Why are none of the Manly-looking white women ever disrespected this way, Kola wants to know?

Notice Troy Johnson comes behind him and says "good things" about Schakspir. He thinks Schakspir is funny.

Is that not supposed to hurt Ms. Boof's feelings after Schakspir has called her children names, claimed that she's brainwashed by the government and claimed that she's so ugly she looks like a man?

Why is Mr. Johnson so insensitive that he can't see how his favoritism towards Ms. Boof's enemys would deeply hurt her, especially after she's praised Troy Johnson for so many years?

This is the reason that Ms. Boof is very angry with Troy Johnson, because he simply HAS NOT been fair and for the last year, at every turn, he has taken the side of Ms. Boof's attackers, he has allowed them to create "trolls" imitating her while she was on hiatus, ignored Ms. Boof's email complaints about those trolls, banned Ms. Boof's friend "Prettybabygirl" for doing what Kola told her to do and then months later banned Ms. Boof.

Troy Johnson claims that Kola Boof acted like she's running the place a few days ago when she wrote that he would not ban her again.

Well why would Ms. Boof expect to be banned again if she wasn't going to do anything to be banned?

Kola even wrote---"I don't see myself cussing out Troy Johnson's ass, so I can tell you right now that I will not be banned."

Ms. Boof did not expect to do anything to be banned (which she has not), therefore she stated that she would not be banned.

Once again, in taking the side of Ms. Boof's haters, Troy Johnson started this thread, which implies all kinds of terrible things about Ms. Boof, simply because he twisted the meaning of what she said--even though she wrote it clearly.

Notice he didn't see the vicious post by Urban_scribe attacking Ms. Boof as if she even knows Ms. Boof. She doesn't know Ms. Boof (or me for that matter, but she wrote a post saying that I'm not a real editor and Door of Kush is not a real publisher. I guess Mr. Johnson co-signs those LIES too.)

Mr. Johnson casually ignores the fact that Ms. Boof's "NAME" is one of the few on this board that is an actual name and that she is a public figure, so when he starts a thread like this that is searchable on the internet--the intention is to hurt Ms. Boof as a person and as a professional.

Ms. Boof has been a long time financial supporter of this web site ALONG with vigorously promoting it, so I can understand how she felt this thread was unfair and uncalled for.

Not to mention, she did nothing to be banned. She stated that she would not be banned because she wasn't going to start any trouble for herself.

Mr. Johnson took offense at that and twisted her words to his own meaning.

Ms. Boof also feels very strongly that her recent decision and announcement that she will STOP promoting the idea that black women should only love black men exclusively is what angered some of the "men in power" around here, as she received very scornful feedback about her thread called "SOMETIMES CHANGE IS FORCED".

These type of ideas and Ms. Boof's "honesty" and intelligence in writing about such touchy matters are really at the core of why people, particuarly black men, have such a problem with her she claims.

In no way is Mr. Johnson one of those men (my assumption), but the fact remains that a lot of people here take Mzuri's side and portray Kola as the "evil one", because Mzuri represent in Kola's words: "The typical high yellow colorstruck status quo that they are used to--she doesn't tell the truth about Black men's illness and prejudices against their own women, she is not African like I am, so she doesn't even KNOW what a black man is or what he's supposed to be, she herself, like Cynique, isn't a real black woman, she's a white society "slave maker"--she supports the black man in his self-destruction and enables him to TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT rather than attempt, as I do, to plant a seed for a stronger black man by telling him the truth 'strategically'--truth that could help him to take his rightful place rather than be erased from the face of the earth, which is where the black man is headed.

Though most of the blacks at AALBC hate me--I have given them nothing but tough love (because they needed it), given them the truth AS I KNEW IT and gave them the information and cheering-on that a motherseed should give. I am not a ni66er, and that has always been a language barrier in trying to chat with people who TALK a hundred times more than they achieve--and basically stand for nothing, which is why they fall for anything. I know that sounds painfully arrogant---BUT I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT "LOVE" IS.

That when someone is willing to be hated just to impart truth and strength to you----THAT IS THE ULTIMATE LOVE. I could easily be their "darling" Yes-girl, but when people only tell you what you WANT to hear---that's not real love. So yes, I'm SICK of ni66ers who only want smoke blown up their ass and only want to "romanticize" their identity. There is nothing romantic about Blackness or Africa--our people are in hell, and that includes the U.S. In fact,I still say that the Africans are better off than the Black Americans, because at least the African is FREE in his soul. It's 2007 and the Black Americans are still "mental slaves" and who are TOO PROUD to acknowledge that I am them...before they was them.

I have no education whatsoever and my life started in hell--but regardless of my naked ambition and WILLFULL self-promotion, I have become INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN for two dozen different reasons--and like it or not, I'm only going to get BIGGER. Why not accept me as your Sister????

So much of their hatred and stories about me---is just jealousy born from having SO MUCH PRIDE that they can't even embrace their own reflection. I am "damaged" and "crazy", and yet no one on that board is as strong as I am--NO ONE. So why am I not good enough to be their goddamned sister? They call a White B-i-t-ch their sister with a big smile."


All that aside, the "reason" that Ms. Boof is not returning has little to do with Troy Johnson.

The reasons are:

#1--Kola Boof (and this may come as a shock to Mr. Johnson and most of you), but Kola Boof is a human being. She doesn't get joy being in a place where everyone despises her, constantly lie on her (Mzuri, Schakspir) and constantly like to voice their opinions but then resent Ms. Boof simply because she's often able to voice hers better.

#2--Ms. Boof has stated here that she had liposuction last year and the doctor removed "too much" fat. (Why Kola chooses to share so much personal info with people in public I will never understand, but she claims to have thought people at AALBC were her "family" as she often told me)

After that liposuction, Ms. Boof's body looks incredibly fabulous, but she became seriously ill from losing 22 pounds in one day and was on Hiatus most of last year as she only had strength enough to deal with her children.

Some of you saw her national t.v. (MSNBC) and you could see how weak and drab she looked due to "Anemia".

Ms. Boof was born already with the African disease "Sickle Cell Anemia" and the Greek blood disease "Polycythemia", both of which are harmless, but the weight loss caused her to get Iron Anemia and her breasts went to a double D which caused pain from their heaviness and not having a "middle waist" or a "back" to support the big breasts (*Ms. Boof is having me tell you all this, NOT ME).

This zapped Ms. Boof's energy and makes her less willing to fight with people. Kola basically likes to swim, cook/play with her kids, write and make perfume, but she said because of loneliness she would come to the board and chat with people.

She lives in a very isolated area and craves interaction with "adults", so she goes online, she says.

Now, because she's becoming more and more famous, she can't do that, because reporters come to quote her or make her look bad.

#3--Ms. Boof has endless battles with very real enemies (the SPLA, dealing with Darfur issues, the media's dislike of her image) and says that she simply doesn't have the strength to battle day in and day out with people who hate her at aalbc.

She also feels incredibly hurt and betrayed by people here who only seem to recall what she does and never what is done to her.

Speaking for myself, Nafisa Goma, I can say that a boat load of "LIES" are told on Ms. Boof on this board and this thread and no one (not even supposed friends like "Tonya") have acknowledged that fact. They make no comment on Ms. Boof's attackers, but seek to know something bad about Kola and are ready to believe any lie, any piece of dirt. From her perspective, it's betrayal.

Kola Boof greatly LOVES the poster named "Abm".

He knows things about Kola's journey that no one else here knows, because for a time years ago they were pen-pals away from the board. Ms. Boof quit smoking cigarettes several years ago and briefly drank alcohol and she says "Abm" helped her through some rough times--basically telling her to "stop being a crybaby and get her shit together".

Ms. Boof stresses that her friendship with Abm has NEVER been sexual or romantic in any way other than their flirtatious banter on this board, nor has he ever done anything but praise and express adoration for his WIFE to Kola. Ms. Boof said she and Abm are "shit-talking sailor buddies", and the only reason she cries about leaving this board is that she will miss Abm and having the opportunity to converse with such an intelligent black man who shares Boof's passion for "black folks".

Ms. Boof has an especially close relationship with the African-American man who adopted her, Marvin Johnson, and she feels that "Abm" reminds her of her dad. Just as she affectionately called Troy Johnson "brother", she also tells people that Abm is her "brother". That is because Kola loves black men and wants so much to have friendly relationships with black men. She is a damaged person from her childhood, but she has never hidden the fact that she wants black men's "approval" and their "acceptance" and that is stated BLATANTLY in all her works.

I think that in their heart of hearts, most women of all races can identify with Kola's insecurities and her need to have non-sexual emotional bonds with men. The difference is that Kola publicly acts out and begs--she doesn't use her Pride to hide the fact that she's damaged. She asks men to heal her. She also calls it like she sees it with men.

She is NOT a "man-hater", and I can testify that men who have known Kola, including my husband who she accused of being "colorstruck" for marrying me--LOVE KOLA. In fact, after my husband and I divorced and after Kola broke up with "Simon/Thomas", he asked me if it was OK for him to date Kola. I was stunned, but Kola told him she'd never date a friend's "ex" and I can honestly say that her loyalty is boundless. She's the most loyal person I know.


Thank you for reading.


Nafisa Goma








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A word to the 'wise': when people refer to themselves, in the third person, they've gone bonkers, and need professional help.
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Correction, Ms. Boof has "Sickle Cell Trait", not the more serious "Sickle Cell Anemia".

Sorry Kola.

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Nafisa Goma wrote:

Notice he didn't see the vicious post by Urban_scribe attacking Ms. Boof as if she even knows Ms. Boof.

Please point to this vicious post. Support your accusations with documentation. While you're at it, do point to the vicious posts where Kola has attacked me, as if she even knows me.

She doesn't know Ms. Boof (or me for that matter, but she wrote a post saying that I'm not a real editor and Door of Kush is not a real publisher.

1) Kola doesn't know me, either. Yet, that didn't stop her from calling me "cree-hole" "Miss Ann" "imitation White wynch" "piss colored" "stringy-haired b!tch" "snot colored" "Taco flake" and "mulatt-ho" among other things.

2) According to your website, Door of Kush was founded in 2004, and, correct me if I'm wrong, has only published 3 different authors to date. That's not even enough for a backlist. According to your website, Door of Kush is distributed by Ingram and Baker & Taylor. NEWSFLASH: Ingram and Baker & Taylor are WHOLESALERS, not DISTRIBUTORS. Any reputable publisher would know the difference.

Essentially, Door of Kush functions as a platform for Kola Boof. Kola even posted on this forum that Mr. Chesney started the "publishing company" for her. Is that true, or another one of her delusions? If it's true then I rest my case.

As for you, Nafisa Goma, not being a real editor, you posted as follows:

If we sound alike to you, then it's not uncommon for authors and their book editors to have semi-similar writing patterns.

(already addressed in my previous post)

AND

The difference is that she has no education whatsoever and had to be taught English and then how to structure the beautiful and lyrical images that she creates. Does that make sense to you as an Editor?

No, as an editor that does not make sense to me. A REAL acquisitions editor would have rejected a manuscript in said condition.

There are various levels of editing. I don't have time to teach them all to you now, but what you're referring to is Developmental Editing. Developmental editing is extremely expensive and would take place waaaaay before a ms is submitted to an acquisitions editor for publishing consideration.

If you provided developmental editing services to Ms. Boof while considering her ms for publication, and admittedly you did, then you're going about the editing process assbackwards. Look in to it. Nuf said.

AND

Kola and I have been personal friends for more than 10 years,... So yes there's a reason that Kola and I write and sound the same way and yes I am going to defend Kola's reputation 100%.

That's what friends are for.


My best friend and I have been friends for 20 years. Not only is she my best friend, but was also my matron-of-honor at my first wedding, and she is the Godmother of my four children. Yet, we write NOTHING alike. However, I will defend her reputation 100%.

The problem I see between you and Kola is what's known as "a conflict of interests." You're her friend, her publicist, and her editor. You don't seem to be able to put your friendship and personal feelings on the backburner and objectively provide Ms. Boof with professional services. I believe Ms. Boof would do well to remain friends with you, but look elsewhere for professional publishing services and objectivity.

I guess Mr. Johnson co-signs those LIES too.)

I can't speak on what TJ co-signs to, but if you're going to call me a liar please support your accusations with documentation. So far, your mouth is moving, but you ain't saying nothing!
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Schakspir,

Your ridiculously unfunny ad hominens of Chris and I do NOT disguise the fact that Chris exposed you to be either ignorant or a liar (or BOTH). Nor does your irrelevant commentary obfuscate your utter envy of and obsession with Kola.

I'll bet you have legions I Hate Kola files on standby.

In a perverse way, you actually 'love' Kola more than I or anyone else here could. Because your ENTIRE existence HERE is based on Kola. Where it not for her, we wouldn't even know WTF a Schakspir IS. (Which is particularly disappointing because your pseudo-namesake suggests that you should have considerably MORE to share.).

Believe me: Your presense here greatly BELIE those literary honors you reference to.

Though I'll miss her, I guess one great consolation prize from Kola no longer posting on Thumper's Corner is that your insignificant a$$ won't be posting here either.

Later HATER!!!


Btw: I'm sure I could quite easily prove you to be a raging, hating liar and literary hack. But that would require my giving a gotdayam about what you think and write.
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What a crock of BS. It escapes me why it's so difficult for kola's chief ass-licker to understand why others are offended by her lies, - offended to the point that they come forth to protest them. I guess it just never occcurs to this syncophant that her lies are the last straw in the things about kola that irritate. Let her be a diva, let her be a self-absorbed loose cannon, let her be a name-calling colorists, but her blatant lies are "the last straw" because they are an insult to the intelligence of reasonable people, some of whom step up, and fueled by outrage shout "ENOUGH." Trying to sanitize Kola Boof's travesties of the truth by attributing the exposure of them to jealousy and hate is the denial of a foolish deluded man, an accuser who has conveniently forgotten what kola explained in regard to the Door of Kush "publishing" company, informing that it was started especially for her by a couple of black business men who wanted to provide her with an outlet for her message. These backers subsequently asked if there were any other struggling black authors to whom they could give a leg up and Kola recommended Chris Hayden and Sisgal. Later Kola severed ties with these "generic" publishers because she was apparently dissatisfied with how they handled her book. Sisgal gave hints that she felt the same way. Chrishayden has never voiced any complaints. It suffices to say that ABM's rants should be taken with a grain of salt. His attempts to do damage control do more harm than good because his emotions warp his credibility.
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Nofishy Gomez\kola boof, needless to say I didn't waste my time reading your long, self-serving swan song. All I did was zero in on my name because I knew you could't sing your own praises without trying to bad mouth Cynique. You're such a pathetic loser. I've always considered your negative sentiments in regard to my being black a plus not a negative because of how little weight I give to the credentials of a Sudanese squatter who landed in the country on her ass and has been looking up it ever since. Any ex-slave descendant has more credentials than a wanna-be pretender to a throne like you, who longs to usurp the real deal, an ego-trip that is headed for a dead-end. Poor ol thing.
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After reading all the post on this Kola Ban all I can say is that Kola is Kola, you either love her or hate her, faults and all. Banning her really does nothing more than give her more power as we are seeing now. So far 158 post have been written which certainly means that posters do want to talk about or with her...lots of publicity there. And if she is not banned, hey she still wins and you can be sure she will rub it in your face. Maybe in a little quieter tone, but sooner or later the real Kola will emerge. The question is...can those who wish her to stay handle the out-come?

In my opinion, if you don't have thick skin or just learn to ignore Kola's sometimes snide remarks you won't be able too. Me...I don't care one way or the other. We have certainly had our issues over the years and have long since buried that hacket... But, I kind of enjoy some of the squabbles. Keeps my juices running while going for her jugular before she gets too mine. It's the uncalled for personal attacks that Kola needs to calm down with. Despite it all. Kola is an intelligent, insightful contributer to this site at times as well as a over bearing off the wall lunatic. That can be said about a lot of posters here, myself as well. So, with all that said, vote away and get ready for whatever the outcome is. Either way...I am sure it will be interesting.
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I don't believe it! Kola is lying her ass off AGAIN--under the guise of Nafisa_Goma! I guess she's an incurable.

And as for AALBC's favorite coon pimp....

Abm: Your ridiculously unfunny ad hominens of Chris and I do NOT disguise the fact that Chris exposed you to be either ignorant or a liar (or BOTH). Nor does your irrelevant commentary obfuscate your utter envy of and obsession with Kola.

Schakspir: Jesus, you ARE an idiot, aren't you? I don't know what's more annoying about you--that phony coon bullshit you keep putting us on with, your two-faced hypocrisy concerning women, your running me down for having more talent in my eyelash than both you and KB combined--OR, your relentless masturbating to KB herself.

F/uck Chris Hayden. My exposure of him was more to the point. Chris Hayden went through his typical junior high-school routine with me that he usually goes through with Cynique and Mzuri. And naturally, I responded in kind. I simply showed him that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. His vampire book was panned by CHILDREN on Amazon.com.

My "piece of shit" books, panned by Kola, Thumper, you and Chris, received an internationally recognized book award and accolades from writers such as Ishmael Reed, Maxine Hong Kingston, John A. Williams, Jerome Klinkowitz, Clarence Major, and numerous others. How about Chris Hayden, the other resident coon on AALBC?

Abm: I'll bet you have legions I Hate Kola files on standby.

Schakspir: No, I don't. Whatever I write about KB is off the top of my head. I'm too busy with other things to worry about Ol' KKKrusty Buns, OR you.

Abm: In a perverse way, you actually 'love' Kola more than I or anyone else here could. Because your ENTIRE existence HERE is based on Kola. Where it not for her, we wouldn't even know WTF a Schakspir IS. (Which is particularly disappointing because your pseudo-namesake suggests that you should have considerably MORE to share.).

Schakspir: When and wherever I spot horseshit on an internet board, I usually zero in on it. That's why I'm writing this now. By the way, you're wrong, as usual. YOUR entire existence here is really based around Kola: kissing her ass while she IS here and yearning for her when she isn't.

Abm: Believe me: Your presense here greatly BELIE those literary honors you reference to.

Schakspir: Smart-ass, even highbrow lit scribblers like myself need to go to the toilet every now and then. BTW, I'll bet you don't even know what the hell an American Book Award is. Judging by the way you speak, you probably read mostly ghetto trash by Triple Crown.

Abm: Though I'll miss her, I guess one great consolation prize from Kola no longer posting on Thumper's Corner is that your insignificant a$$ won't be posting here either.

Schakspir: Don't be so sure about that one, Rastus! I can show up whenever I feel like it!

Abm: Later HATER!!!

Schakspir: Auf weidersehen, dogg.

Abm: Btw: I'm sure I could quite easily prove you to be a raging, hating liar and literary hack. But that would require my giving a gotdayam about what you think and write.

Schakspir: Taking me seriously would mean you'd have to start reading LITERATURE and not that dumb n.i.g.g.e.r. shit your friend Krusty Buns shits out....or that other dumb junk from Triple motherf---- Crown.

BTW, who the hell else is a raging, hating liar but your friend KB? I guess you two cunts are just birds of a feather!!


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"My "piece of shit" books, panned by Kola, Thumper, you and Chris, received an internationally recognized book award and accolades from writers such as Ishmael Reed, Maxine Hong Kingston, John A. Williams, Jerome Klinkowitz, Clarence Major, and numerous others."

More self promotion, again. Hypocrite.
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Shove it, b/itch.
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Linda thanks, I came too late to vote and Schakspir I hate to make you look real stupid after ChrisHayden but you said theres no Gisi Waaq tribe but you can google them the "Gisi" part is the family name not the tribe "Waaq" is the tribe the pre-fix means "Gisi family of the Waaq" and their race is the Oromo. Gisi Waaq Oromo just google "Waaq" or "Oromo" and like I said I hate to make you look stupid nwo be good and call me Kola :-). Abm I never cared for Kola to be honest but GO Abm!
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Oops sorry just realized Schakspir was lying when he said that not being stupid.

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wow!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't think ive ever seen a NOBODY, who has such a sense of OVER-IMPORTANCE than this third world, second rate, liar who calls herself kola boof.

my only question is-

are we finally done with this ugly beast?

i hope so.

maybe this animal will get the mental help she clearly needs.

HASTA NUNCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why is "enchanted" thanking Linda for her fan letter to Kola if she herself "never cared for Kola"?? And when did "enchanted' become an expert on Sudanese tribes? Looks like the virus is out of remission. snicker.
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(dis)Enchanted: Oops sorry just realized Schakspir was lying when he said that not being stupid.

Schakspir: You can't even use the English language. And you're insinuating that I'M stupid?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=DVFC,DVFC:1970-- 2,DVFC:en&q=Gisi+Waaq

All the known information about these so-called "Gisi-Waaq" people (Greasy Wog???) can be found here. As usual 100% of this information comes from Her Majesty, Queen Kola.
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What a cast of characters! LOL! Did anybody notice that "Nafisa" was up in the middle of the night posting this so-called good-bye letter. And if "Nafisa" was really a "friend" of Kola, then why the fukc did the two of them post such a fukctarded letter??? Aren't your friends supposed to keep you from doing dumb shit??? Aren't two heads supposed to be better than one??? Good Lord.

And Enchanted, if you could read, Troy stated that after a week or so (from the time of his original post) he would tally the votes. So let's put on your thinking cap and count from Wednesday.

You can use your fingers if you want to.

Thursday --- Friday --- Saturday --- Sunday --- Monday --- Tuesday --- Wednesday

You still have a couple of days to cast your ballot. Duh!!!

And it's still not too late to take the UNOFFICIAL SITE HISTORIAN'S UNOFFICIAL THUMPER'S CORNER IQ TEST:

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/23046/20392.html




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Schakspir I am just saying you lied and your are studpid you even contineud to lie because Kola aint created this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waaq or this http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Oromo.html
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Schakspir you should get your lies straight and stop being stupid proivng Chrishayden right 100% about you You dont even know a "prefix" to a name from a tribe I thought you were the expert on North Africa.
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Cynique the 50 million Waaq Oromo is not a Sudanese tribe and you dont have to be an "expert" to do google search right? How do you know Lindan and I arent friends heck maybe because her I knew the vote was going on? You never know you are not using your thinking cap as usual too much snickering keeps you from being smart. I am smart enough to know that "Gisi" is a common family name in East Africa Schakspir is supposed the expert but not even know that and I googled Waaq and Oromo but look at Schakspir is still claiming 50 million Oromo do not exist but is made up by Kola dont be mad when people look into your lies on this board because we dont have to like Kola to see what the deal with Mzuri, Cynqiue and Schakspir is.
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Disenchanted, learn to s-p-e-l-l. Learn some basic grammar. Your first posting sounds like a ten year old wrote it. (Cute that you voted for yourself.)

Secondly, in none of these pieces that you posted is there any SPECIFIC reference to a Gisi-Waaq. NONE.

You fcuking idiot.
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Chris Hayden: I signed a standard author's contract with them, the details of which are none of your goddam beezwax, and again, I did not pay them a dime.

Schakspir: Yeah, but did they pay you?
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Schakspir not only a liar but a desperate liar now why would they list every family sirname prefix or your that stupid? You said the Waaq and Oromo do not exist and made up by Kola she is introducing her tribal name correctly by putting her family name before the tribe that is standard East African practice to say family name/tribe/race in that order so hers is Gisi/Waaq/Oromo but you are still lying and being big stupid about this we all see it. You should stop being an ass anyone can google the Waaq and Oromo I agree with Abm your jealousy of Kola is so apparent.
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Disenchanted - The deal with Mzuri, Cynique and Schakspir is that we actually have fully functioning brains that sustain knowledge and intelligence, which is more than can be said for your illiterate no-spelling can't-string-a-simple-sentence-together-stupid-ass. Retard.

And what on God's green earth is there to be jealous of Kola about? The is a ing L-I-A-R and a L-O-S-E-R.


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Disenchanted: Schakspir not only a liar but a desperate liar now why would they list every family sirname prefix or your that stupid?

Corrected by Schakspir: Schakspir (is) not only a liar(,) but a desperate liar(.) Now why....

See what I mean? Absolutely pathetic. An illiterate monkey.

Dis: You said the Waaq and Oromo do not exist and made up by Kola she is introducing her tribal name correctly by putting her family name before the tribe that is standard East African practice to say family name/tribe/race in that order so hers is Gisi/Waaq/Oromo but you are still lying and being big stupid about this we all see it.

Schakspir: whatever, kkkunt. Picking apart your "logic" is easy. If "Waaq" means God to Somalis and Oromos, then the tribe obviously shouldn't mean God. I think Disenchanted is one of Kola's sock puppets. I recall earlier that Enchanted wrote in a much more literate fashion. What happened--did Kola gouge out one of her eyes and f.uck her in the brain?
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Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 06:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You're right, Shakspsir. "Enchanted" adopts different vernaculars to write in. Sometimes she's literate and other times she's semi-literate. She claims to dislike kola but her posts invariably end up with her praising or defending the troll queen. Same ol same ol. snort.
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Enchanted
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Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 07:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

SMH boy is Schakspir stupid he can't even read straight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waaq QUOTE: "Waaq," in the Somali language, is the sound of the crow, which according to legend was an object of worship among ancient Somalis. My understanding is that god is the Egyptian sky god "Crow" and there's many web sites about these people they call themselves "Waaq" which also mean "children of GOD(the crow)". This is on the Oromo sites too when they say "god" they mean "Crow" So I like this keep going Schakspir showing how stupid ignorant LIAR :-) LOL you are! Kola was so much smarter than you.
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Enchanted
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Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 07:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

TOLD THAT FOOL! http://www.thedustyfoot.com/html/pages/history_cont.html Quote: those Oromos who consider the coffee bean holy and believe in the great Sky Crow are called "Waaq" people, the descendents of the ancient Cushite warlord King Kanan Waaq. Did you know that "Kola" is a "BOY NAME" in East Africa? Only men are named Kola in East Africa.
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Schakspir
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Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 08:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Disenchanted: Did you know that "Kola" is a "BOY NAME" in East Africa? Only men are named Kola in East Africa.

Schakspir: That would explain a lot.

BTW Kola is just another dumb Yankee.
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Latina_wi
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 01:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am a bit late in all this and I haven't been around here as much as others but I defintely think Kola shouldn't have been banned.

Yup, she can be a bit of a pain at times (lol sorry Kola) and slightly 'preachy', often ignoring the real reasons as to why many blacks whose history is entrenched in the western hempisphere would be a bit hesitant at being beckoned to Mama Afica's bosom but she was GOOD.

Her points were convincing and very often accurate. She is an intelligent and feisty woman who has achieved a lot and I think sometimes the fact that she could be so 'spot on' unsettled people.

She may have come across as needy but I think she just wanted people to like her and this rings even more true considering the fact that Naisa_Goma said she missed a lot of adult company and felt quite lonely.

Even to her 'enimes' she was complimentary. She stirred debate and I think that even when she aroused anger et cetera it was a good thing because it got people talking and there was a real flow to the board.

Moreover, I think her being voted 'out or in' wasn't very ethical treatment at all, can understand why she wanted to leave after all this.

Kola often never let anything go and could be vicious but so are a lot of other people on this board and they aren't voted out.

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