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Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 471
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 02:19 am: | 
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No other black male could have played the role of Lazarus in Black Snake Moan other than Samuel L. Jackson. He is hilarious! Brewer is a 35 year old caucasion born in Virginia but spent his childhood in Memphis. I noticed Brewer's directing style/signature has a raw, erotic, and edgy trademark.
Christina Ricci did an excellent job playing a "white trash" named Ray. Interesting story line I must say. The trailer is misleading. LOL ! |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 862
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 02:30 am: |
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i haven't seen the film yet (i will soon).
i do know that christina ricci looked GOOD in her panties, barefoot.
christina ricci has got some BIG breasts, and a great ass.
ill see the film based on this alone!!!!!!!!!! |
Americansista
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Username: Americansista
Post Number: 321
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 10:51 am: |
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I want to see it, just out of sheer curiousity, lol...but I know if I hear one "HEEEEE HAAAAW" during the movie, I'm gone! |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 472
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:11 am: |
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Americasista:"I want to see it, just out of sheer curiousity, lol...but I know if I hear one "HEEEEE HAAAAW" during the movie, I'm gone!"
Well...you won't necessarily hear a "hee haw" but...hmmmmm...well girl you betta save your money then. LOL ! |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3823
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:38 am: |
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No other black male could have played the role of Lazarus in Black Snake Moan other than Samuel L. Jackson. He is hilarious! Brewer is a 35 year old caucasion born in Virginia but spent his childhood in Memphis. I noticed Brewer's directing style/signature has a raw, erotic, and edgy trademark.
Christina Ricci did an excellent job playing a "white trash" named Ray. Interesting story line I must say. The trailer is misleading. LOL !
(How realistic do you think it is that a black male could chain a white woman to a radiator in his house and not get lynched about a half dozen times for it?) |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 476
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:44 am: |
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Chris...GO SEE THE MOVIE ! |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3829
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:21 pm: |
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F**k the movie.
I can't get past the premise--that a black man, in the South, even today, would survive chaining a white woman to his radiator.
Don't want to see nothing this farfetched unless it is some sort of magical fantasy or sci fi thang. |
Americansista
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Username: Americansista
Post Number: 323
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 01:29 pm: |
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^^^
LOL
I think he's chaining her up to "cure" her of her whorish ways.
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Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 477
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 02:03 pm: |
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chrishayden:"F**k the movie.
I can't get past the premise--that a black man, in the South, even today, would survive chaining a white woman to his radiator.
Oh Chris, you've lost your zest. Boooooooring !
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1951
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 02:19 pm: |
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"How realistic do you think it is that a black male could chain a white woman to a radiator in his house and not get lynched about a half dozen times for it?"
Uhhhhh...Chris for your info, a brother doesnt need a chain to keep a white woman enslaved. They can do it mentally (which is better) minus any chains. Infact, it's happening all the time and no one has been lynched yet. Chris, for the record, "THIS IS NOT 1935!!!" No magic nor rocket science to hold down or enslave (minus the chains) a white woman. But that is a separate issue and your anxiety and nightmares are focused on the chains and the radiator. Bro Chris, listen up: The reality is it's just a movie....it's just a movie....it's just a movie. Keep telling yourself that if the chains keep bothering you.....it's just a movie.....
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 8634
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:19 pm: |
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Ntfs: "...a brother doesnt need a chain to keep a white woman enslaved. They can do it mentally (which is better) minus any chains."
There's another way for a brotha to keep a Becky under wraps sans going the reverse slavery route. It's called in a word: Dycknotized! |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4689
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:20 pm: |
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Don't know anything about the movie but BIG UPS to Samuel L. Jackson and his career!!!! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 7619
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:30 pm: |
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This movie didn't have a very spectacular opening week-end at the box office in spite of the better than average reviews it received. It landed in 8th place, grossing a little over 4 million. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 3767
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:37 pm: |
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In other words, the movie is a box office flop.  |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 1954
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 04:06 pm: |
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"This movie didn't have a very spectacular opening week-end at the box office in spite of the better than average reviews it received. It landed in 8th place, grossing a little over 4 million."
Ouch! Well.......that's doesn't sound good. And it certainly is not going to pick up momentum. Could it have to do with a white woman in panties with a chain around her waist and a black man holding her captive? Hmmmmmmm.....something to think about. Maybe the it was the film score? No? Did the poster mislead the folks....perhaps they were looking for a little more BD/SM and sexual interaction between the captor and the captee?
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Troy
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Username: Troy
Post Number: 556
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 09:51 pm: |
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Kam thought the movie was pretty good http://aalbc.com/reviews/samuelljackson.htm
While it is not 1935 I could not help but think what the reaction would have been if the roles were reversed and homegirl has Samuel L. in chains...
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"Dycknotized" ROTFLMMFAO!
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Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 481
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 10:02 pm: |
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Thanks for the info on the interview Troy ! |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 3773
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 10:09 pm: |
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Dycknotized?  |
Tonya
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Post Number: 4704
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 01:57 am: |
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Moviemaker and columnist have a lot in common, it turns out -- especially a love of Memphis
March 4, 2007
She hated his breakout hit movie, "Hustle & Flow," and wrote in the summer of 2005, "If you buy what Memphis director Craig Brewer is selling, even a drug-dealing pimp ... can rise above his ho-slapping days to become a Casio-keyboard toting musician who raps about beating hos."
That wasn't all Commercial Appeal metro columnist Wendi C. Thomas had to say. She worried that those who didn't know Memphis would get the wrong impression about our city from seeing "block after block of some of the most rundown neighborhoods this side of Ethiopia." And she objected to the "big, sloppy wet kiss" city leaders were giving Brewer and the film.
"Not all dreams are worth dreaming," she finished.
Ouch.
That's what Brewer, already deep into his next movie, thought when he read Wendi's columns about "Hustle & Flow," as well as her subsequent horror that rappers Three 6 Mafia won an Oscar for the movie's theme song, "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp."
Brewer, who grew up in California but now has both his home and his production company in Memphis, loves his town enough to have set and filmed his movies here. He wants to be known as a Memphis boy. Thomas's words ate at him.
So last month, the moviemaker called the columnist. His request: Dinner and conversation, to see if there might be more to say, to see if they had any common ground.
The occasion: A preview screening of his newest movie, "Black Snake Moan," which opened Friday. You've probably seen the billboards: Samuel L. Jackson stands over Christina Ricci, holding the chain that's locked around her waist. It's an over-the-top
story of a sex-obsessed "half-naked white woman" and the broken hill-country bluesman who vows to rid her of her "wickedness," and chains her to his radiator to do it. The billboard's slogan: Everything is hotter down South.
The backstory made the scene a little awkward when Wendi met Craig, but only at first. Turns out this odd couple actually have a lot in common, including a love of Memphis and a full-on engagement in the popular culture that defines their generation (they are both 35).
They talked about life-changing moments. One of Craig's was seeing Michael Jackson moonwalk on the 25th anniversary Motown special, then learning to do it from his dad. Wendi's came from the movie "The Color Purple." "I can feel myself in that movie," she said, and began to quote Oprah Winfrey's character, Sofia. Craig joined in, word for word.
"If I took 'The Color Purple' and made it in a modern setting, would that bother you?" he asked.
"I'd have to think about that," she answered.
Then it was time for the screening.
"Could you have done this story without the chains?" Wendi asked when the conversation resumed.
CB: Well, yeah, but it'd be boring, I think. The chains are part of our Southern iconography. The easy way to look at it is, oh, we're chaining up a woman. But, you know, I'm that woman on the end of the chain.
WCT: Are you confessing to being a nymph?
CB: No, but I am confessing to having severe anxiety attacks. You know, my dad died at 49 of a heart attack. So I was on a plane ride, and it was a very stressful time because, you know, we didn't have any money. We'd just had a baby. And everybody, all my friends, think I've made it. ... And nothing was happening (with making "Hustle & Flow") for like two years. And my hearing went out. My heart started pounding. And I called over a stewardess, and I said I'm having a heart attack here. (It was) an anxiety attack. It just started happening, over and over again.
There was this one night, I was listening to Skip James ... and I had this image, of my granddad's house out in the country, and at the end of the wall was this radiator. And there was a chain wrapped around it, a big ol' coil of chain, and it was going past me and scraping across the floor. And while I was thinking about that, I started feeling panicky. And then the chain just went taut, but the radiator held. And dust and rust were flying off of it, and my panic attack left.
WCT: When you envisioned this movie, the woman was white. You didn't think about putting a black woman in chains?
CB: You know, I didn't. Truthfully, I really thought about an old bluesman, and a young white trash girl. And I really never thought about race, even though it's very much alive in the audience.
WCT: Well, clearly race was a dynamic for (the characters) too, because when (Lazarus, played by Jackson) was talking to his cussing-drinking-minister friend, he said, you know, I've got a naked white woman. It wasn't just a naked woman. It was a naked white woman.
CB: Look, don't think I'm not aware that there's going to be caution and fear.
WCT: Well, I liked the movie.
CB: You did?
WCT: I liked the movie. I think all the religious themes kind of resonate with me.
CB: Thank you, Wendi. Well, you know, I started thinking about Genesis. I started thinking about, you know, God as a character, who, who was alone. And that he had two kids. And they both were broken now. But he's got to let loose of the chain ... like what are Adam and Eve chained to now? And my feeling is that we need to be chained to each other. And that I really wanted to do a movie about commitment.
WCT: And you know Samuel's reaction initially when (Rae, played by Christina Ricci) comes to is to grab his Bible, you know, and run out the house. It's like, kind of a get-thee-behind-me-Satan kind of thing.
CB: And, you know, it is the good Samaritan. Do we just concentrate on the bad in people? I mean is there any benefit to concentrating on the good, you know, and loving unconditionally?
WCT: I think that came through very clearly. ... I'm way more offended by "Hustle" than this. This is filled with Biblical stories, and I'm very comfortable with that.
CB: Well, you know the Bible is just filled with whores, Wendi.
WCT: I know. But it's some good stories.
CB: If Jesus were here today ...
WCT: He'd be hanging out with the pimps. And I'd probably be a Pharisee. ... But, but, I mean this story of redemption is real. And I think a lot of people feel like they've been betrayed somehow, somewhere, and they can identify with that. Whereas with me, with "Hustle & Flow," I'm looking at pimps and ho's and I don't see anything I can identify with.
CB: And is that through, like I asked you earlier, is that first through the prism of yourself as an African-American, or as a woman?
WCT: I think it was probably both as a Memphian and a woman. ... I feel like if I say that I like "Hustle & Flow," that I'm saying that I support how (DJay) was making his money.
CB: ... Can we ever go to extremes with characters of race and gender without it representing the race and the gender?
WCT: In America, for black people, not yet. There just aren't enough movies, or there haven't been enough roles. You see the same debates coming up in politics, you know. Who's the spokesman for the black race? Who ever asks that about white people? ... I would see your next movie.
CB: You want to see my next movie?
WCT: Yeah. But if this movie had been "Hustle & Flow" Part 2, I probably wouldn't have seen any more movies.
The conversation turns toward a discussion of blues versus rap.
WCT: (With rap), you cringe. But with the blues, I know there's not going to be a "Whoop That Trick," you know, or at least not in that specific. ...
CB: (In "Black Snake Moan") Sam is singing M.F., M.F., M.F., and he's singing about violence.
WCT: But he's telling a story.
CB: But rappers tell stories all the time.
WCT: No, "Whoop That Trick" is not a story.
CB: "Shaft" didn't bother you? ... "he's a bad mother ..., shut your mouth."
WCT: No, because that's creative to me.
CB: (He sings the words from "It Ain't Over" from "Hustle & Flow") "... this is my life, it's a battle to win, I've gotta survive even if I'm sinning to win. And if I show no remorse I get the Devil's reward. He said he'd show me riches, but I'm looking for more." That's not creative?
WCT: Not to me on the same level, no. ... Maybe it's because of whose mouth it was coming out of and the whole story around it.
CB: But isn't it funny, that if it came out of Pavarotti, it's art. But if it comes out a pimp, it's trash.
WCT: Is there a double standard? Yes.
CB: But that's why I feel like you and I are kind of perfect partners. 'Cause I gotta do something like that every once in a while, and you've gotta go, "Can you believe that?"
WCT: I respect people's creative process and their genius. But there are things as a woman, and as an African-American, that I just have to shake my head at.
CB: ... Are you cool with the fact that you are a celebrity?
WCT: I don't like that at all. I don't like the loss of anonymity.
CB: Christina Ricci said something when I talked about the whole Googling thing, she said that you should only have about five to 10 people in your life that you judge your self-worth off of.
WCT: That's probably true. ... Thank you. It's been great.
CB: It was wonderful, really. I liked this a lot.
http://www.commercialappeal.com
/mca/lifestyle_columnists/article
/0,1426,MCA_529_5390806,00.html |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 04:53 pm: |
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Uhhhhh...Chris for your info, a brother doesnt need a chain to keep a white woman enslaved. They can do it mentally (which is better) minus any chains. Infact, it's happening all the time and no one has been lynched yet
(How would YOU know?) |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 2000
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 02:35 am: |
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"How would YOU know?"
When was the last time you heard of a black man being lynched for dating or chaining a white woman to keep her from leaving? End of subject.........
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