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Jackie
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Post Number: 447
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Affidavit: McVeigh had high-level help
According to Oklahoma bombing conspirator, ranking officials were involved in the attack
By Pamela Manson
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 02/21/2007 01:03:43 AM MST
Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Nichols says a high-ranking FBI official "apparently" was directing Timothy McVeigh in the plot to blow up a government building and might have changed the original target of the attack, according to a new affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Utah.
The official and other conspirators are being protected by the federal government "in a cover-up to escape its responsibility for the loss of life in Oklahoma," Nichols claims in a Feb. 9 affidavit.
Documents that supposedly help back up his allegations have been sealed to protect information in them, such as Social Security numbers and dates of birth.
The U.S. Attorney's Office in Utah had no comment on the allegations. The FBI and Justice Department in Washington, D.C., also declined comment.
Nichols does not say what motive the government would have to be involved in the bombing.
The affidavit was filed in a lawsuit brought by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue, who believes his brother's death in a federal prison was linked to the Oklahoma City bombing. The suit, which seeks documents from the FBI under the federal Freedom of Information Act, alleges that authorities mistook Kenneth Trentadue for a bombing conspirator and that guards killed him in an interrogation that got out of hand.
Trentadue's death a few months after the April 19, 1995, bombing was ruled a suicide after several investigations. The government has adamantly denied any wrongdoing in the death.
In his affidavit, Nichols says he wants to bring closure to the survivors and families of the attack on the Alfred B. Murrah Federal Building, which took 168 lives. He alleges he wrote then-Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2004, offering to help identify all parties who played a role in the bombing but never got a reply.
Nichols is serving a life sentence at the U.S. Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colo. McVeigh, who carried out the bombing, was executed in 2001.
McVeigh and Nichols were the only defendants indicted in the bombing. However, Nichols alleges others were involved.
McVeigh told him he was recruited for undercover missions while serving in the military, according to Nichols. He says he learned sometime in 1995 that there had been a change in bombing target and that McVeigh was upset by that.
"There, in what I believe was an accidental slip of the tongue, McVeigh revealed the identity of a high-ranking FBI official who was apparently directing McVeigh in the bomb plot," Nichols says in the affidavit.
Nichols also says that McVeigh threatened him and his family to force him to rob Roger Moore, an Arkansas gun dealer, of weapons and explosives. He later learned the robbery was staged so Moore, who was in on the phony heist, could deny any knowledge of the bombing plot if the stolen items were traced back to him, Nichols claims.
He adds that Moore allegedly told his attorney that he would not be prosecuted in connection with the bombing because he was a "protected witness."
Moore could not be reached for comment Tuesday.
In addition, Nichols says McVeigh must have had help building the bomb. The device he and McVeigh built the day before the bombing did not resemble the one that ultimately was used, Nichols says, and "displayed a level of expertise and sophistication" that neither man had.
pmanson@sltrib.com
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Jackie
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Post Number: 448
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 02:29 am: |
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Last year, I saw Jesus Camp in this little independeht theatre here in Long Beach. Througout the whole documentary I kept saying to myself..."Not only are these kids (THESE BABIES) being indoctrinated with Evangelical dogma but they're little Timothy McVeigh's in training!" Jesus Camp by the way is up for an oscar. Even though, Pastor Becky Fischer(the founder of Kids on Fire Summer Camp in Devil's Lake, North Dakota) is a warm and passionate woman, I think she's doing a disservice to these children. But hey it's their parents choice. I feel the directors, Rachel Brady and Heidi Ewing did an excellent job and the documentary deserves an oscar. Brady and Ewing do not agree with the doctrine nor the training but their job as film makers/documentarians is to be objective and to tell the story. I think they were successful. At the end of the documentary I walked out "disturbed." LOL ! |
Cynique
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Post Number: 7430
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 01:24 pm: |
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America is very focused on the immediacy of Muslim terrorists, but a more ominous threat is the enemy within, the insidious cancer embodied by the "Christian" right, those grim, bible-thumping fundamentalists who want to turn this country into a theocracy, along with their partners in crime represented by those steely-eyed, gun-toting, fascistic militia groups which have stationed themselves all around the wilderness in states like Idaho. These fanatics are every bit as dangerous and demented as the jehadists. |
Jackie
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Post Number: 451
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 02:34 pm: |
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Yep, some of their slogans were "We're taking back Amercia for Christ." or "We're God's Army"
There's footage of children (some black children too) at the oldest 8 or 9 that spoke in tongues, fell to the floor,twitched and jerked like they were having epileptic seizures. And Pastor Fischer even stated(I'm paraphrasing) in the documentary that "If the people of Palestine can raise their children to be soldiers, then why can't we ?" |
Abm
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Post Number: 8536
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 02:53 pm: |
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It's much easier for White foks to muster up funds, guns and hoopla to go kill up some feriners over seas than it is to do all that to go kill up foks who attended high school with them. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3702
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 11:38 am: |
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ominous threat is the enemy within, the insidious cancer embodied by the "Christian" right
(They are no threat. They are commanded and financed by rich white folks. They are classified by the military as "Christian Patriot Organizations" and in the event of an emergency they will be deputized to shoot Negroes. They are part of the power structure, the pattyrollers and militia they call out when the black tide of mud threatens to rise up--
Oh, my bad. You mean threat to US!) |
Cynique
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Post Number: 7445
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 12:11 pm: |
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What you claim sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me, chrishayden. These people are the avowed enemies of liberal white people, Jews, Catholics, Hispanic and Asian immigrants, homosexuals, and tax collectors, in addition to blacks - who they don't even live around. The sinister militia groups are hidden away, laying in wait, ready to shoot down the infamous government black helicopters which they think are coming to root them out. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3709
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 12:50 pm: |
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liberal white people, Jews, Catholics, Hispanic and Asian immigrants, homosexuals, and tax collectors, in addition to blacks - who they don't even live around.
(You left off WASPS and Fundamentalists--a good portion of the society. And I think that's enough for them--
What percentage of the population are they, hmmm? |
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