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Robynmarie
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 11:54 pm: | 
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I teacher I know told me that one African American mom was fed up with her daughter's disruptive behavior in math class,stormed into the classroom and forced her daughter to keep a pacifier in her mouth for the entire period. The teacher and her classmates thought it was funny. I am horrified. |
Cynique
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I think this was a very innovative way of imposing the "time out" punishment on the girl. If doing this inhibits her disruptive behavior then she will have learned her lesson. No one child should be allowed to interfere with the learning process of an entire class. |
Doberman23
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well, sometimes drastic measures have to be taken to get your kid to shut the fudge up so they can listen and learn. i knew a girl who got slapped by everybody on the trackfield when her mom found out that she had lied about getting a report card, that slap was so hard and crisp i think everyone lost a little bit of their taste bud senses. |
Robynmarie
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Post Number: 309
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I think this woman is a complete failure as a parent. Talk about allowing inference of the learning process??? What the heck did this mom do? And of course the teacher was too afraid to tell the silly woman that she should discipline her children at home. I never would have allowed that in my classroom. |
Doberman23
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robbie robz different strokes for different folks, a failure is a parent who does absolutely nothing and continues to let her child mess up everyone elses chance to learn including her own. i am willing to bet a sackajoewuija (sp?) coin that the daughter of the passifying mom won't act a fool in class again. the teacher probably also told the mom about her daughter nutting up in class too, so ends justified the means. |
Cynique
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:25 am: |
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Embarassing an out-of-control child is a very good way to get a message across. We have to assume that punishing the child at home wasn't working. And the teacher should've been glad that the mother didn't try and blame the child's unruly behavior on her by getting physical with her as so many parents do. I'll bet the child won't act up again and when she gets older and looks back on the incident, she'll probably be grateful to her mother for putting her in check. |
Doberman23
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:30 am: |
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hey cynique i am going to be in your neck of the woods this coming weekend, you may see me on the news if i don't get my merchandise from this dude on ebay (he lives in chicago), i will go site seeing, pee off of the navy pier, and go to that dudes house and give him a gut check. 
*unless he is bigger than me of course* |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 3435
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:32 am: |
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If the mom was aware of the child's disruptive behavior in math class - guess what - it's because the TEACHER COMPLAINED TO THE MOM!!!
Have you ever gotten a call from a teacher about your child disrupting the class and preventing the OTHER CHILDREN FROM LEARNING??? Because I have and it is none too pleasant!!!
If that was my child she would have been lucky to get a pacifier stuck in her mouth, because I would have beaten the tar out of her. I think this mom's actions are innovative and probably highly effective.
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Doberman23
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your daughter has tar in her? either you need some cooking classes or your husband/babies daddy or you have some fudged up genes. |
Robynmarie
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Post Number: 310
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:37 am: |
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This mother is as out of control as her child.
Why is the child acting up in the first place?
I tend to think rather than correcting the child's behavior, it will only make it worse because she will be the subject of scorn the rest of her school days.
I think this mother only created a bigger problem. Since when do we humiliate children to get them to behave?
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Doberman23
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:43 am: |
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robyn did you grow up with the drummonds or the popodoplisies, because we all got embarassed by our parents and one time or another. you don't know what that woman has done with her daughter prior to her going there and showing her what was up. that woman could be a single parent who had to take the day off of work just to make sure her daughter can go to school and learn like she is supposed to. i think about 90% of kids act up one time or another no matter how good their situation is at home. you can tell your kids one thing but you have no guarantees how they'll act when they are out of your presence, trust me i was a class clown, but wasn't when my mom was around. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:43 am: |
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Cut it out Dobes! LMAO. If it were summer time I would invite you to a cook out when you hit town, but since it's winter I'm just staying in my cave, surviving on nuts and berries, sleeping for long stretches, thinking about pawing my cubs to death. I hope you enjoy yourself in our fair city. |
Doberman23
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not to mention math is boring |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:47 am: |
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Robyn - I don't think the mother is out of control at all, since there are people who will string their children up for this type of mess. Children misbehave for a number of reasons - it could be due to hyperactivity, chatterbox syndrome, attention deficit, desire for negative attention - who knows. Why don't you get more detailed background information and post it here - such as what was the child doing to disrupt the class in the first place - age of the child - etc. You seem to expect us to have an intellectual discussion with a bare minimum of information.
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Robynmarie
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I grew up with loving, competent parents.
This woman is neither, in my opinion. She only humiliated her child to make herself feel like she is doing something. I'll be checking back with the teacher to see if the kid changes her ways. I highly doubt it though.
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Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:48 am: |
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Puleeze, Robymarie. The child and her classmates will get over it. Children are very resilient. Sometimes the reason children get out of control is because they have no bounderies put on their behavior and they are crying out for discipline by acting up. Do you have any children??? |
Doberman23
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:50 am: |
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i want my dollar if she does robie-robz. also have you ever looked at it this way... her daughter is embarassing her by getting in trouble the way that she had been? oh... score one for dobes! |
Robynmarie
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I will supply additional details when I learn more.
I do know the kid is 12, in a public school. When the mother arrived on campus, she claimed she could hear the child "all the way down the hall"
That's when she whipped out the pacifier. The teacher said the kid kept her head down the whole time while the teacher and classmates laughed and snickered. The mother had a seat in the back of the class.
As far as beating your child at school, California has laws against that.
I can't see what possible justification there is for this kind of "punishment". |
Doberman23
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:53 am: |
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you should paw those bears for keeping rex grossman, and you would have nothing but nubbs after you pawed all the detroit lions that suck. man, how come i can't have matt millons job. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:54 am: |
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What the hell? I grew up with loving competent parents, but that doesn't mean I didn't get my ass beat. I got whooped plenty and there is nothing wrong with me, trust me. I'm glad my parents beat my bad ass.
I wonder if anyone here didn't get their ass beat when they were little???
Hellooooooow!!!
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Doberman23
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:55 am: |
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robie that is excellent parenting, i will keep this in my favorites for when i have a pup or two myself. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:58 am: |
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Right. California law prohibits corporal punishment. And therein lies the problem. That's why you got all these child molesters, car-jackers, kidnappers, shoplifters, thugs, gangsters, rapists, robbers, burglars and all that other shit. We didn't have all this BULLSHIT when parents could whoop that ass.
Think about it!
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Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 01:00 am: |
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I'm focusing on the Bulls now, Dobes, and they beat Phoenix today! And you guys can have Ben Wallace back. He hasn't made much of an impact on the Bulls "re-building" program. The Bears are "evaluating" Grossman's future role with team. In other words, his ass is toast. |
Robynmarie
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 01:01 am: |
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Yes, I do have a child. True story: my daughter's grades were slipping when she was in middle school, so one day I decided to pop up. The look on her face when she saw me (after she finished laughing and talking with her classmates) was one of pure horror. I sat in the back of the class (sans pacifier) and left when class was over.
Today, many years later my daughter tells me she told her classmates that I was reporting a story about middle school children (I worked for a newspaper at the time)that's why I sat in on her class. My daughter's grades only slightly improved. So I am not sure my little visit had any had any effect on her but it made me feel better.
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Robynmarie
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That's ONE reason why we have such lawlessness, too much violence in the home and everywhere else. Most of the incarcerated were beaten at home. That's where they learned to use violence to solve problems. And then parents wonder why there "lil man" wind up doing serious time after assaulting or killing someone. |
Cynique
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I never got that many ass-beatings because those that I did get nipped my misbehavior in the bud. |
Mzuri
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LOL. Me either. I didn't get beat but about ten times. And it was for stuff like not doing my chores or talking back. My mom was the one that beat me, my dad never laid a hand on me he just threatened me. Did I mention that I grew up in a military household? And did I ever mention that I was a straight A student until I quit school???
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Cynique
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No, but I'm not surprised. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 01:26 am: |
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Heck, I was scared to bring home an A- because my mom would have probably tanned my hide. I resented her at the time, but now I'm glad she brought me up the way she did. My parents didn't allow me to wear make-up or nail polish until I was a certain age, no boyfriends, hanging on the phone, staying out late - I had to be in the house before dark. They checked my homework and if something was sloppy I had to re-do it. All of those restrictions are no longer imposed upon anyone which is why we're in the mess we have now.
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Abm
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Robynmarie,
Perhaps the mother has tried the kinds of methods that you would be more approving of but they simply have NOT worked.
Raising a child can be as much an art as it is a science. Meaning, just because you mix and bake some milk, flour, eggs, baking soda, yeast, sugar, butter and vanilla extract, that does NOT necessarily mean you be eating cake. |
Robynmarie
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We'll see if this kind of "discipline" works or not. I am really furious with the teacher that he allowed this kind of spectacle to unfold in his classroom.
This mother has deep issues, imo. If she is so bold as to do this at school, I wonder what kind of "discipline" she imposes at home?
It's no wonder kids have no respect for teachers or parents nowadays. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 11:23 am: |
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I know a mother who did this to a friend of mine in gradeschool.
He lost all interest in school whatsoever afterward.
You can humiliate a kid, but doing it in front of people is a mistake.
What were the races of the kid, the class, the teacher and the parent, by the way?
I got whipped all the time. I never got a whipping I didn't deserve.
I do not think it warped me but I notice that I am quick to at least consider resolving problems with violence. |
Mzuri
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Oh wait. Your mother called you the n-word throughout your childhood but you can dispense with the parenting advice. This "friend" is really you, huh Chris? Did your mother call you a •••••• while she was beating you??? Do tell.
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Chrishayden
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Mzuri:
And you would sleep with a corpse if you thought you could get some money out of it so you can dispense with the HUMAN advice.
Ask YOUR mama what I called her while we was--no.no. I won't go there. If I do you'll cry and call me a dirty old man.
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Robynmarie
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The mother and child (age 12) are African American. The teacher Latino, the school primairly white, in a white neighborhood. I am not sure if this would have gone down in a black school, since there is always real violence in our public schools. Someone might have pulled a gun.
It never would have happened with Latinos. That's not how they discipline their kids and from what I hear from my teacher friends, Latino children are the best behaved in class, anyway.
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Chrishayden
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The mother and child (age 12) are African American. The teacher Latino, the school primairly white, in a white neighborhood. I am not sure if this would have gone down in a black school, since there is always real violence in our public schools. Someone might have pulled a gun.
(Who the hell was there to pull a gun if the MOTHER was the one doing it?
If this class had been black the Aunt Jemima mother would not have done it.
"You is done embarassed us in front ub de white folks," is what this old Kizzie was saying.
She will reap the whirlwind and deserves it. |
Mzuri
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Oh Chris - I was just joshing about that one-foot-in-the-grave-billionaire thing, because I won't •••• nothing older than me. LOLOLOL!!!
Robyn - Right. Hispanic/Latino/Mexicans have a proven method of disciplining their children that really works. NOT!!!
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Robynmarie
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CH-folks in LA pull guns for any number of reasons, but that's a different story.
I never thought of the mother feeling embarressed by the child. Makes a lot of sense that she would try to embarress the child in return. Emotionally unstable b**ch, I say.
Mzuri-
From what my teacher friends tell me, Latino kids are the best behaved in the classroom. Outside of the class could be another matter, but at school they are cooperative and studious. They apply peer pressure to their classmates if one of them starts acting a fool.
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Cynique
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Since the non violent form of punishment administered by the mother is deemed to be so despicable, what should have been done to reign in this disruptive child?? There is no magic formula that can be applied to all children and parents should not automatically be made the scape goat when a child has behavioral problems. A similiar thing happened in a class room of mine back when I was in 4th grade. This one boy who was the son of a preacher just kept the class room in an uproar. Finally the reverend who was his father came up to the school and whipped him with a strap in front of the whole class. The white teacher stood by dabbing at her eyes, and the rest of the class just watched in stunned silence. But the kid did shape up and thereafter order prevailed in the classroom. I don't recommend this type of physical abuse, but the guy grew up and turned out just fine. Joined the marines and earned some metals while fighting in the Korean war, and later established a very successful electrical contracting business. Like me, he still lives in our hometown and we recently ran into each other at the town's annual MLK banquet, at which time we hugged and complimented each other on how "well" each of us looked. |
Mzuri
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Robyn - I reside in EL PASO, TEXAS. It is the LARGEST INTERNATIONAL BORDER CITY ON EARTH. Last time I heard it has MORE CHILDREN, PER CAPITA, than any other city in the U.S.A.
And can't nobody tell me diddly-squat about a MEXICAN!!!
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Mzuri
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Correction - The above should have read EL PASO, TEXAS AND JUAREZ, MEXICO form the LARGEST INTERNATIONAL BORDER METROPOLIS ON EARTH. |
Chrishayden
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I reside in EL PASO, TEXAS
(Or as we here call all of Lower Missouri, TEXAS HELLHOLE!) |
Robynmarie
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Cynique-I am sure both y 'all look good!
Lots of successful people credit getting "whupped" with instilling discpline. So do lots of inmates. That's a different of of discpline, of course.
Mzuri-I don't understand what you are saying about Mexicans. |
Mzuri
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I'm not saying anything about Mexicans other than that you nor anyone else can tell me anything about them that I don't already know, because I've been around them for over thirty years. I went to school with Mexicans, I've worked with Mexicans, and if it wasn't for my preference for Black men, I'd probably be dating a Mexican - because they love the hell out of me. My next door neighbors to both sides are Mexicans. And the mofos across the street too. There'd probably be some behind me except I'm on the edge of town and there's nothing abutting the rear of my property except for commercially zoned desert. In other words, I am surrounded by Mexicans and I know all about them.
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Doberman23
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robie what mzuri is saying is that your comment pertaining to mexican students is a bunch of bullcrap, i resided near austin for 3 years and seen many of mexican teens getting into just as much trouble if not more than black kids. i know for a fact that there was a mexican gang in this school in waco, because they shot a soldier and 4 of them where being escorted out of school. if you where to say that about asian kids i might have agreed but not latinos. no way in hell. |
Tonya
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quote:That's ONE reason why we have such lawlessness, too much violence in the home and everywhere else. Most of the incarcerated were beaten at home. That's where they learned to use violence to solve problems. And then parents wonder why there "lil man" wind up doing serious time after assaulting or killing someone.
That's bullshit. There was much less crime and lawlessness in my mother's day, and my mom aunts and uncles used to get their ass whopped. My great-grandmother owned a shot gun...FOR THE GRANDKIDS...the honest to God truth. We even got a picture of her with the shotgun and I've heard countless stories of how she'd pull it out on the grandkids whenever they'd "act up". In one of those stories, she actually took several shots at my older sister who was no more than 12 at the time. Yet and still, all, but one, of my siblings are hard working successful law abiding citizens and excellent parents. The same goes for my aunts, uncles and mother.
PS, whenever I spaz out and catch a bad attitude, I call it:
"a granny shotgun moment".
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Tonya
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And I’m against corporal punishment, btw, but I can’t discount the truth!
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Mzuri
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OMG Tonya I thought my family was crazy! I'd have had a heart attack and a stroke if my people pulled a shotgun on me.
I don't know why anyone would consider a spanking as violence. It wasn't until this anti-corporal punishment nonsense that things have gotten so out of hand.
Children don't practice any of the common courtesies that we were raised to exercise - such as saying please, thank you, yes sir, etc. Most young people seem to have no respect for their elders. Boys walking around with their pants half way down their asses. Young girls walking around dressed like little hookers trying to act grown. Children in grade school trying to have sex. The list goes on and on.
All this bullshit chaos is the result of parents no longer being able to slap the shit out of their own children.
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Robynmarie
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 05:16 pm: |
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Parents are still whupping their kids today as much as ever. If you think SOME young people are rude, disrespectful, criminal, addicted, etc, because they aren't being beaten, you are fooling yourself. They are a products of the adults who were whipped. Hard pill to swallow, but so true.
And sure, whippings do help some folks stay on the straight and narrow. If you have a chance, read Tavis Smiley's "What I Know For Sure" (I think that's the title). He talks all about the the effects of being beaten. He spent 10 days in the hospital because his parents beat him with a wrong side of the frying pan cord. I guess you would say it was worth it?
I know many cons and ex-cons. To a man (and woman) those who have done time for violent crimes were beaten as children. Those beatings did not correct behavior. They only served to create angry, violent, predatory offenders.
CH- Hey, I can only speak for Los Angeles, but from what I hear from folks in the trenches, Latino parents' attitudes are different than ours towards education. Perhaps because many immigrants don't have the same opportunities for education in the old country, so they make sure their kids take school and education seriously.
The scenario goes something like this: a black kid acts up, his parents gets defensive, comes to school and cusses out the teacher. Latino parents will try to correct the child without confronting (blaming) the teacher, particularly if English is their second language.
BTW, I am not just talking about Mexicans. |
Ntfs_encryption
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"I teacher I know told me that one African American mom was fed up with her daughter's disruptive behavior ............and her classmates thought it was funny."
Good! I wish we had more black parents that were outraged and intolerant of their children's wild and disruptive behavior. Just think of how much easier the job of teachers would be and what a safer environment would be for teachers and students alike if more black parents responded to their children's out of control behavior. The mom gets five stars!
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Robynmarie
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We will see if this woman's actions "create a safer environment". My gut feelings is that when the white parents get wind of what happened, they aren't going to think it was so funny. |
Ntfs_encryption
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"My gut feelings is that when the white parents get wind of what happened, they aren't going to think it was so funny."
Good...again. After the way I see these white kids speak and react to their parents, hopefully they will rethink their "hi-tech psychotherapy-wannabe my kids best friend bullshit" and take control of their kids disrespectful and physically threatening behavior. It amazes me the way parents allow their kids to behave and completely disregard any efforts to question or discipline them. The behavior I see by kids today did not exist when I was a kid. There was no way I could disrespect or bad mouth my parents the way I see kids behave today. Not in the culture and family I was raised in. Same goes for the disrespect, confrontational and often times profane vulgar manner in which kids react and speak to their teachers. It was not tolerated when I was a kid...PERIOD!! So I'm hoping those outraged and mindlessly politically correct white folks are disturbed!
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Tonya
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Mzuri, LOL! Yep, my granny didn't play that mess. And, like I said, she must have done something right! I don't like to comment much on this issue, tho, because I don't have kids of my own so what the hell do I know. |
Cynique
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LOL, Tonya. Sounds like your granny "spared the rod" and opted for the shot gun. And since a "spoiled child" didn't result, then let's hear it for shotguns! |
Yvettep
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Mzuri: I was born in El Paso: William Beaumont Army Medical Center! Say hi to my ole stompin grounds... |
Mzuri
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That's So Cool! When's the last time you were here? Did you spend any time here??? After you were born
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Yvettep
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Preschool: I have vague memories of shopping for my first "big girl" bed (at the PX?) and going across a briar-filled backyard barefoot in 100+ heat to visit a playmate. My sister's godfather (retired Army) and his family still live there, but I haven't been since visiting them as a pre-teen. |
Mzuri
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You should come and visit El Paso/Fort Bliss next time you go to Vegas or something. It's really grown and we have EVERYTHING here now, even a Macy's. It's grown so much that my home which was built in 2001, while in a populated residential area, is so far out in the county that my servicing post office is in the next little town (Socorro) and the letter carrier is a contractor because it's a rural route. We don't go to Socorro for ordinary postal business though because there's another post office right up the street. Anyway, many of the retired military tend to stay here because the cost of living is below the rest of the U.S. Y'all really should visit - there's tons of stuff to do and see. You'd have a good time
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