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     Mzuri "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Mzuri Post Number: 3176 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: |
White Atlanta Suburbs Push for Secession By DOUG GROSS Jan 23, 2:27 PM EST ATLANTA (AP) -- A potentially explosive dispute in the City Too Busy to Hate is taking shape over a proposal to break Fulton County in two and split off Atlanta's predominantly white, affluent suburbs to the north from some of the metropolitan area's poorest, black neighborhoods. Legislation that would allow the suburbs to form their own county, to be called Milton County, was introduced by members of the Georgia Legislature's Republican majority earlier this month. Supporters say it is a quest for more responsive government in a county with a population greater than that of six states. Opponents say the measure is racially motivated and will pit white against black, rich against poor. "If it gets to the floor, there will be blood on the walls," warned state Sen. Vincent Fort, an Atlanta Democrat and member of the Legislative Black Caucus who bitterly opposes the plan. Fort added: "As much as you would like to think it's not racial, it's difficult to draw any other conclusion." The legislation calls for amending the Georgia Constitution to allow the return of Milton County, which succumbed to financial troubles during the Depression and was folded into Fulton County in 1932. The former Milton County is now mostly white and Republican and one of the most affluent areas in the nation. Atlanta and its southern suburbs are mostly black, are controlled by Democrats and have neighborhoods with some of the highest poverty rates in America. (Buckhead, a fashionable Atlanta neighborhood of clubs, restaurants and mansions, would remain in Fulton County.) "The only way to fix Fulton County is to dismantle Fulton County," said state Rep. Jan Jones, the plan's chief sponsor. "It's too large, and certainly too dysfunctional, to truly be considered local government." Jones, a former marketing executive who lives in the Fulton suburb of Alpharetta, cited the county's troubled library and public transit systems and a jail that was taken over by a federal judge because it was filthy and unsafe. He denied the move is racially motivated. Don Petree, the 62-year-old owner of Don's Hairstyling in Roswell, another northern Fulton suburb, said many of his customers "feel like they're not being taken care of like they should be with the tax dollars they're spending. I think there's some truth to that." Milton County would have a population of about 300,000, instantly making it Georgia's fifth-largest county. Residents of north Fulton represent 29 percent of the county's population of 915,000 but pay 42 percent of its property taxes, according to a local taxpayers group. A split would lead to the loss of $193 million in property taxes alone for Fulton County. About 25 miles to the south in downtown Atlanta, the Rev. J. Allen Milner said he is afraid the tax revenue loss would have a devastating effect on those who need government help the most. "If you take that money out of their coffers, human services will suffer greatly," said Milner, a black man who runs a homeless mission and is pastor of the Chapel of Christian Love Church. Critics of a split also worry about the future of Grady Memorial Hospital and the Atlanta area's MARTA commuter-rail system - both of which have contracts with the county. In addition, some warn that a breakup of Fulton could harm Atlanta's international reputation as a progressive city and hurt its appeal as a business, entertainment and convention destination. While other Southern cities erupted in violence a generation ago, Atlanta came through the civil rights movement with little strife, earning the nickname The City Too Busy to Hate. It is now home to one of the nation's largest black middle-class communities. "This would send a clear message to companies around the country that Atlanta may not be as progressive as it would like people to think," Fort said. The measure would require the support of two-thirds of both the House and Senate. Then it would have to put to a statewide vote. Also, residents of what would become Milton County would have to endorse the plan. While Republicans have majorities in both chambers, they would need to win over three Democrats in the Senate and 14 in the House to get it passed. The legislation has support from some of the Legislature's key leaders. Republican House Speaker Glenn Richardson has referred to his top lieutenant, Rep. Mark Burkhalter, as "the member from Milton County." http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ATLANTA_SPLIT?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US | ||
| Nels Veteran Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 732 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Socioeconomics at work. Who wants to deal with a bunch of po' crackheads anyway? The truth hurts. | ||
| Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 3448 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: |
Take a good look at Nels' post, y'all. A Negro will always hit another Negro when a white man hits him. I wonder how the students at Moorehouse and Spellman feel about you calling them crackheads. | ||
| Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 3449 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Negroes ought to start moving into "Milton" county--it will only take a few to make them hoosiers start heading for the hills. | ||
| Mzuri "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Mzuri Post Number: 3196 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: N/A |
You first Chris. And I'm right behind you. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 8074 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Maybe the good Black foks in Fulton County could say Fuhk dem!!! and commence to building up their county WITHOUT those secessionist mofos. Maybe... | ||
| Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 3451 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Mzuri: Scared of white folks too, eh? Jesus woman this is 2007. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 6938 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
The South will always be trying to "rise again", still fightin the civil war in its heads, the confederate flag its security blanket. Atlanta, with all of its mottos and black mayors, is not a microcosm of the south; especially the rural south. | ||
| Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 3455 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
A memoir of St. Louis-- There is this area in St. Louis called Windemere place. The houses are grand, the tenants all well to do, it used to be all white. The neighbors all had this unwritten agreement that they would not sell to any black person. One of the neighbors fell afoul of the others and they started giving him grief. "If you all keep bothering me, I am going to sell my house to a black." They didn't believe him. He sold it to a black. And it was all black after that. Get some hoity toity negroes together, find some white boys in "Milton County" who are bent on revenge, and move in. You gots lots of Negroes want to move over there anyway, I bet. Do it to 'em. | ||
| Grind Regular Poster Username: Grind Post Number: 166 Registered: 04-2006 Rating: N/A |
LOL This issue comes up in a lot of "integrated" municipalities. Some years ago there was a group of people who wanted to split off a large, wealthy, predominantly white section of Oakland from the rest of the city. Frankly, I did't blame them. They pay a fortune in propert taxes and can't even send their kids to any of the local high schools because they're so dangerous. | ||
| Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 3456 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
If they are that well off they wouldn't send them there anyway. They don't want to be around black folks if they got diamond toenails and ruby eyeballs. They do not want their white boys coming home with black girls and definitely do not want their daughters pregnant by black boys, which is what is going to happen. | ||
| Grind Regular Poster Username: Grind Post Number: 167 Registered: 04-2006 Rating: N/A |
"If they are that well off they wouldn't send them there anyway." Why shouldn't people be able to send their kids to the local public schools that their taxes subsidize? "They don't want to be around black folks if they got diamond toenails and ruby eyeballs." That probably has something to do with it, but I think the main thing is that they feel they're getting ripped off. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 8087 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Grind, Sounds like divine reciprocity to me. Hell. Southern cracker mofos got to rip off and fuhk over Blacks for over 200 years. They're due some of what they help make. | ||
| Grind Regular Poster Username: Grind Post Number: 169 Registered: 04-2006 Rating: |
"Sounds like divine reciprocity to me. Hell. Southern cracker mofos got to rip off and fuhk over Blacks for over 200 years. They're due some of what they help make." ABM, Given that many blacks feel as you do, isn't that all the more reason for whites to want nothing to do with us? Why would they want to live with people who feel they're owed some comeuppance? What normal, sane person would subject himself to that? | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 8092 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: |
Grind, The same normal, sane people who foolishly thought they could foister their band of democracy and government on Iraqi's, I suppose. | ||
| Nels Veteran Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 735 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Chris -- "Take a good look at Nels' post, y'all." That's right, and nothing's going to change that perspective. Seen it, seen it, seen it. Heard it all before. Excuses won't help them either. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 8095 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Nels, I ultimately consider the White foks seceeding from Fulton to be a GOLDEN opportunity for the Black foks down there. I hope they capitalize upon it. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 1624 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Maybe the good Black foks in Fulton County could say Fuhk dem!!! and commence to building up their county WITHOUT those secessionist mofos." Good. I like that. Let the black people do their own thing and develop their own communities. Elect their own officials and do what the white people do: Take care of their own!!! Negroes are always whining and complaining about what white people think and do. Well, here is perfect opportunity to demonstrate what blacks can do. Stop begging and crying for their crumbs and handouts. BLACK POWER!!! Now they can set the rules for their own community without the welfare and interference of Southern whites who want absolutely nothing to do with them.....PERIOD!!!! | ||
| Nels Veteran Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 737 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Abm -- More power to them. Each camp, that is. | ||
| Chrishayden AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 3457 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Nels: You ain't seen smack. Get off these computers and walk around you cringing 97 lb weakling. God, is this what the black race has come to? Negroes scared of other negroes. How can white folks lose? | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 1635 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"How can white folks lose?" They can't and won't. Negroes are doing it all for them. Very entertaining. It's liking shaking the bamboo cage and watching the two Praying Mantises go at it. | ||
| Serenasailor Veteran Poster Username: Serenasailor Post Number: 1110 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: |
LOOK WHO'S SHOUTING "BLACK POWER" ALL OF A SUDDEN!! YOU SOUND LIKE SOUND WHITE LIBERAL WHO JUST GRADUATED FROM SOME I.V LEAGUE COLLEGE NTFS. YOU DON'T REALLY BELIEVE THAT DO YOU?? ESPECIALLY WITH ALL OF THE BLACK WOMAN HATING MANTRA THAT YOU HAVE FED US ON THIS BOARD OVER THE YEARS. GIMME A BREAK!!!! | ||
| Nels Veteran Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 739 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Chris -- "You ain't seen smack. Get off these computers and walk around you cringing 97 lb weakling." What a sense of "humor". |
