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Serenasailor
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Post Number: 1086
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:04 am: | 
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I was watching a special on the Black panther movement and I saw all of the spokeswomen for the group. It was Kathleen Cleaver, Elaine Brown, and Eldridge Cleavers wife. They are all light-skinned women. Were there any dark-skinned women in the Black Panther movement?
If so? Where were they?? Were they ever represented in the society??? |
Cynique
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Post Number: 6847
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:13 am: |
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Tupac's mother was affiliated with the Black Panthers and she is not light-skinned. |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:32 am: |
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NO serenasailor, there were NO darkskin black females in the black panther party.
the black panthers had a rule that if you are darker than a brown paper bag you could not be a member.
ALL of the male black panther members were totally AGAINST DARKSKIN FEMALES.
they allowed tupac's mother in the black panther party because she agreed to have sex with ALL of the male members.
ok, do you feel better now.
boy oh boy, this shade of skin GARBAGE never ends. |
Femrenoir
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Post Number: 106
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:45 am: |
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Good one. You had me going.
I was sitting here with my mouth open saying 'nuh ungh'! |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 3087
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:19 am: |
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SS - Do you purposely troll the forum for old threads to rehash, or is it simply a case of CRS???
Because either way, the ish is not that interesting.
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/11222/17306.html?1161031232
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Tonya
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Post Number: 4127
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:15 am: |
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It's been said that the civil rights movement was fought mainly for Black men to gain more rights and better opportunities to marry white women. I don't know enough about that aspect of the movement to say if this is true or not, but I think it's enormously telling that some people (Black and white) equate racial equality with whites and blacks marrying each other... as if you're free because some white person is willing to fuk you (quite niggerish if you ask me). |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:06 pm: |
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Clarification:
It's been said that the civil rights movement was fought mainly so that Black men could gain more rights and better opportunities, to marry white women. |
Yukio
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:22 pm: |
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this is an ol thread aint it....so one asked the same questions months ago. See...i almost posted, and then Mzuri you beat me to it...I knew I saw this before.
no, the crm was NOT about black men getting white woman...It is telling though, that interracial relationships, particularly between black men and white woman, is what people think when they think about civil rights...part of it is because:
a) white people control information, and thus they make shit up and we take it as the truth...
b) people don't read. If you pick up a few books, the basics of the Civil Rights MOvement can be laid out...only its basics. The CRM was huge, more than 100 yrs. old; involving more than just voting and access to public accomodations; including many organzations...we too often limit it to the NAACP, but in fact, during the 50s the NAACP were ol guard and the other national organizations, such as SCLC, CORE, and SNCC were the movement; but these were national organizations, there were local and state organizations that worked w/these nationals, but independent of them, and these organizations, in fact, were often if not run but managed by black women....why don't mor black people or should I say americans not know this? Cuz we engulf the news from the Telly and print media as if it is the beginning and end of something...it is called mass media...anything, for the most part, w/the adjective "mass" in front of it means unsophisticated, I hate to admit.
back to the thread: people, i know the internet is a great place to find info., etc....but ya need to read some damn books! If you read about the Panther, you will find out that there were many chapters across the country, and within these many chapters there were dark skinned woman. Of course, as is the present, there was colorism in the Panther movement, but was more than colorism or the desire to sex white woman...its interesting we, Americans, are so caught up in the sensational we don't know nothing but what we see[not much] and since we have an opinion[w/out much evidence] we think we are talkin about something...and, i'm not talkin about reading one book, and thinking that you know the whole history on something...we know, or at least we should, that there are hundreds of books on different components on the same subject...RIF!
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Ntfs_encryption
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:00 pm: |
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"SS - Do you purposely troll the forum for old threads to rehash, or is it simply a case of CRS???"
Sigh.....Thank you Ms. Mzuri. The Tar Baby Syndrome never ceases to amaze and depress me at the same time. You would think in the year 2007, these insecure self loathing issue-projection Negroes would have grown past their divisive hateful skin color rhetoric. They are just as ignorant and racist as any Confederate flag loving red neck from Tennessee could ever hope to be -only in black face. You would also think these self absorbed Negroes would have a better understanding and grasp of black history. But it is obvious their race baiting bigotry over rides their need to research, obtain verifiable facts and articulate scholarly substantiated information about history vice posting their twisted grossly inaccurate skin color-crazed fantasies (opinions). I responded to race baiting ignorant ass question before. I'll try one more time -for what good it will do.
For the record: The original Black Panther party was composed of all skin color shades of black women and men. These blacks were above petty divisive skin color politics. They had little tolerance for same mindless intra-group racism and ignorance advocated by a small minority of zealots on this board.
These black women were all members of the Black Panther Party!!!
Bottom line: Do your fuckin' research and know what you're talking about before you start posting ignorant and factually inaccurate opinions. And I'm not done yet on this Black Panther issue or the inexcusable pathetic Kathleen Cleaver besmirchment. More to follow.....
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Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:39 pm: |
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You damned right Kathleen Cleaver
was PATHETIC
....and BESMIRCHED black women's
identity!
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Serenasailor
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:49 pm: |
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However, none of those women that you showed me NTFS were the spokeperson for the group. Were any of those women the spokeswomen?? |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 06:23 pm: |
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no, the females posted NEVER could have been a spokesperson for the black panther party, because of the "darker than a brown paper bag rule" they had.
the women in the photos posted were ONLY allowed to cook, clean, mop floors, ans sexually service the male members of the black panther party.
the dark skin females in the black panther party were not even allowed to speak.
they were only allowed to bow when the were in the presence of a light skin female member. |
Schakspir
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 07:29 pm: |
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And not only that, the women were also circumcized and infibulated--since the Black Panthers were strict Muslims. The BPP also alligned itself with the Republican party and had homosexual orgies with J. Edgar Hoover and Richard Milhous Nixon. Above all, they DESPISED black people. Can't you see how lovely their conked hairdos are?? |
Yukio
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 07:51 pm: |
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duh...how do we know what role they played? Consider...that there were black panther chapters across all of the U.S.! At some point, serenasailor, base your analysis on more than pics, that is both movies and photos.
Here is a book that I just bought that may be helpful:
In Search of the Black Panther party: New Perspectives on a Revolutionary Movement, eds. Jana Larerow and Yohuru Williams. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 4252
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:36 pm: |
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Elaine Brown's book about the
Black Panthers
...Angela Davis's writings about the
Black Panthers
BOTH EXPOSE THE RAMPANT COLORISM OF THE
GROUP AND ITS HATRED FOR BLACK WOMEN.
Those books are far more credible and
insightful than the book you mentioned
Yukio---but of course you've somehow
missed the boat on what this group actually
stood for.
THE BLACK PANTHERS WERE IMPOTENT TO
HELP "THE BLACK MAN"---because they
wouldn't give birth to one.
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Schakspir
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:12 pm: |
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Kola conveniently forgets that black men come in all colors--not just "Bosco" chocolate. |
Yukio
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 01:47 am: |
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kola boof...have you read the book I cited? By the way, I know that there was colorism in gender discrimination in the black panther party and above I already admitted the colorist part...but to admit this doesn't disqualify the value and the stances and work that the panther's did. If that was the case, neither of these women would have remained involved in them...and both women have admitted that one can not limit the panthers to their misogny...just was one can not limit your rhetoric to your colorism...LOL! |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 04:19 pm: |
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I'm LOVIN' them Afros in the fourth picture...
...now THAT'S how you ROCK an Afro!
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