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Tonya
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Friday, January 12, 2007
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DuBois: Support our institutions with our own money
by James Clingman
''I thank God that most of the money that supports the NAACP comes from black hands; a still larger proportion must so come, and we must not only support but control this and similar organizations and hold them unwaveringly to our objects, our aims and our ideals.''
W.E.B. DuBois wrote those words in the Crisis magazine in 1915, the same year Booker T. Washington died. Ironically, what was written in the Crisis has now become the crisis in the NAACP and other so-called Black organizations.
Just six years after the NAACP was established in 1909, yes, by both Black and White folks, Blacks put their money up and supported the organization. Today, nearly a century later, the NAACP and many of its local chapters would go out of business if they did not receive money from non-Black corporations and individuals whose "controlling interests" have reduced the NAACP to paper-tiger status in many of our communities.
Whose fault is it? If Black people provided the majority of the money to the NAACP in 1915, what should our commitment be in 2007 with our nearly $800 billion in annual income? Sure, White-owned corporations and individuals should donate funds to Black organizations, but that is no reason for Blacks to abdicate organizational control and support.
We just celebrated Kwanzaa, one of the principles of which is Kujichagulia, which means self-determination. How can we be self-determined if we have to rely on the whimsical notions of folks who could not care less about our aspirations and goals? Where can self-determination be found in having to beg someone to purchase tables and program booklet pages for an awards banquet at which we really have nothing to celebrate?
How can we ever be self-determined if we fail to plan and execute initiatives that move our organizations toward ownership and economic self-sufficiency? The foundations of Black organizations must be laid with Black dollars, just as DuBois admonished in 1915. That way, any contribution given by others is icing on our own cake.
DuBois was very concerned about outsiders controlling the NAACP, and today we know that internal control of Black organizations such as the NAACP, the Urban League, Black Chambers of Commerce, and other vital Black institutions is of paramount importance. As long as these organizations remain docile and compliant to the status quo, they are supported; let them get "too big for their britches," let them get "out of their place," and watch the funds dry up. The same thing applies with Black media.
Surely you have seen this scenario play out in your city at some time or another. Here in Cincinnati, we are currently fighting for the local chapter of the NAACP, which has been taken over by corrupt people, some of whom call themselves and are called by others "preachers" and "religionists." If you didn't know it already, the NAACP national convention is scheduled for Cincinnati in 2008. The deal was made despite some serious problems in this city vis-à-vis Black disparities and discrimination.
The folks who run the local chapter, as well as some "hidden hand" culprits, can't wait to get in on the corporate goodies that will be handed out; they even went so far as to rig the NAACP presidential election to make sure they are there when the convention comes to town, as if a convention is the end-all for our problems in this town.
Well, they lost the election, despite lying and cheating, and despite collusion with the state NAACP office to keep their person as president. Now we are waiting to see what will happen as the former president and her cronies refuse to vacate the premises or to concede the election. And once again, with the ghost of W.E.B. DuBois looking over its shoulders, the NAACP in Cincinnati is in a crisis, attributable to the outside influence of outside money.
One of the executive board members, a "preacher," to justify the former president staying on and I suppose also to justify their cheating, was quoted as saying, ". . . corporate Cincinnati will only deal with [the current president]." That's code for, "If we don't play along with the powers-that-be, they won't fund our convention -- and we won't get our share."
How sick is that? It's shameful that there is no low to which some of our brothers and sisters will not stoop, and there is no muck in which they will not wallow in order to get a few dollars. Corruption abounds in our current NAACP administration, and much of it has been caused by the love of the almighty dollar.
To reiterate, the saddest part about the situation within Cincinnati's NAACP is the involvement of church leaders who are acting like straight-up gangsters and thugs. They lie, they curse, they threaten and they operate behind closed doors to cut deals that sell their own people and the NAACP down the river.
We will see if DuBois' words take hold, in this town as well as other towns across this country, within our organizations. We must stop the corruption; we must put an end to the selling out; and we must do what DuBois suggested: Support our institutions with our own money first, and take the "For Sale" signs down.
As for the Cincinnati chapter of the NAACP, as we await intervention by the national office, which has been quite slow in coming, I will definitely keep you informed. Meanwhile, as DuBois must have noticed, and as we know today, the mission of the NAACP, which refers to "equality of rights of all persons," is inconsistent with its name, which says the "advancement of colored people." Newsflash! "All" people are not in need of equality of rights; "colored people" are.
James E. Clingman, an adjunct professor at the University of Cincinnati's African American Studies department, is former editor of the Cincinnati Herald newspaper and founder of the Greater Cincinnati African American Chamber of Commerce. He hosts the radio program, ''Blackonomics,'' and has written several books, including
Black-o-Knowledge-Stuff. To book Clingman for a speech or purchase his books, go to his Web site, www.blackonomics.com or call him at 513/489-4132.
http://www.insightnews.com/business.asp?mode=display&articleID=2878 |
Abm
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You wanna know where our money that could be going to our schools is going to?
Ask your preacherman(woman) this Sunday. |
Chrishayden
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''I thank God that most of the money that supports the NAACP comes from black hands; a still larger proportion must so come, and we must not only support but control this and similar organizations and hold them unwaveringly to our objects, our aims and our ideals.''
That was a lie then, too. White folks started the NAACP and had all the top spots while DuBois was telling this lie. It has always been as much to tamp down and channel black rage as it has to address it.
You have to have your own organizations. Read what Malcolm said about the March on Washington. |
Tonya
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Chris, I've always felt like many things DuBois spoke were lies, most spoken out of self-hate. It seems as though he thought no different of Black people than did/do white people. Yet nobody is very candid with their criticism of him. West and Gates were too soft. Alice Walker was even softer. Where can I go to get HONEST criticism on DuBois.
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Abm
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Tonya,
What lies did DuBois tell? |
Tonya
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Abm, he led his people down a path that he said he truly believed in. I don't think he actually believed all of it at the time, he seemed to smart to be that naive. He did admit before dying that he was infact wrong about some stuff.
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Abm
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Tonya,
You being vague here. WHAT did DuBois say (or do) that he did NOT believe (in)? |
Tonya
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He COULD NOT have believed the black elite would come back to save their black brethrens. He did not HIMSELF feel obligated to black folks, *I* don't believe that.
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Enchanted
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Please dont dreg up Martin Luther King's lies and deceit surrounding the march again because he not here to defend himself and regardless the fact is everybody told a lie before and many of our top leaders have done this and committed sin. SO WHAT.
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Abm
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Tonya,
People OFTEN figure others will do what they themselves can and will not do. You know. The whole Do As I Say And Not As I do phenomenon.
Also. Maybe he figured he was doing his part to help create this Talented Tenth movement.
I have always been iffy on the Talented Tenth philosophy largely because MANY of those who'd probably qualify as the most talented and capable Blacks likely would never get a chance to apply for a roster spot. |
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DuBois moved to Africa and did lot of good for those people who appreciated it. He got tired of being called a "whitey" by American negroes and he did a hell of a lot more than he had to give he didn't owe anybody anything! People who fight for black get no thanks whatsoever and thats why I do all my fighting in the ballot box. You all aren't going to worry me with your unrealistic expectations and though I am no fan of Miss Kola Boof's actions attitude or beliefs I have been waiting for the key moment to tell you Miss Tonya YOU WAS WRONG the way you did her. Stone wrong. It's something else under your skin you aren't sharing because she didnt do anything to you and guess what I believe she makes perfect sense about the F.B.I. I already knew that had to be the case without being told once her saw her sitting up on tv. talking all her smack. Whether shes lying about her history or not I had to get that off my chest since you thought I was one of her and Nolan Fane too SMH.
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Tonya
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Kola PLEASE get help. |
Enchanted
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Oh lord here we go you just proved that your the one who NEEDS the help. Why dont you ask Troy Johnson who Enchanteds HUSBAND IS Miss stupid self? He used to run JET magazine. You a mess and a half I swear |
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I don't know if DuBois was telling a lie or not about the funding issue. Is this author quoting him correctly? Black folk were indeed responsible for the sales of the Crisis, though not at all the NAACP as an organization. DuBois says the NAACP [according to the author] but is that what he meant?
Tonya:
In fact, DuBois did believe that the black elite would "come back to save their black brethrens."
First all, we are speaking of the days of Jim Crow, so "coming back" was not even an option.
Secondly, and this is important, the black elite, as it is now, was quite ideologically diverse. So that some were conservative, liberal, and radical. Remember, at that time, the black elite were those individuals w/ college education, but often of modest income. What distinguished them was sometimes income, but often their deportment and how they spent their leisure time....the majority of them were "respectable," but when it came to politics...some were leftist, such as DuBois, or more conservative, such as BT Washington, but both of them believed in "uplift." That is giving to the black community.
While conservative, very few would make the argument that J. Ridley made. Even the generationally conservative Cosby gives to the community. It was nonsensical and illogical, especially among the DuBois, Washingtons, etc.., for blacks with skills not to give to the larger black community.
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Tonya
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Yukio, my point was I don’t believe that DuBois felt the blacks on the bottom were his brethrens, so how could he have believed that the Black elite, who were alot like him in terms of phenotype, felt any differently than he did. |
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Tonya: he felt that blacks at the bottom should go to school; attain as much education as possible, and contribute to their race. Was he an elist? HELL YES! Did he look down on people less credentialized, hell yes!
In a nutshell, he felt that they were his brethren but not of his class.
You are placing, I believe, too much emphasis on his color than need be. Now, I am not saying that he wasn't a colorist. Nor am I saying that he was, BUT, none of this meant that he didn't believe in giving back; consider that he lived almost 100 yrs, and throughtout his life time, his ideas changed. he was always, however, an elitist, but if you know anything about his work...and there is really too much for one to read, then if is impossible, actually, to claim that he didn't believe in giving to those less fortunate.
In fact, if you read his latter biographies, he questions his own usage of the talented tenth idea. And his magnus opus, Black Reconstruction, vertiably rejects the idea of a talented tenth. |
Abm
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Tonya,
Most very smart, talented and capable people are elitist. It's NATURAL for one of a certain position and caliber of achievement might consider him(her)self to be above others who are NOT yet as capable and accomplished.
That doesn't necessarily mean he or she does not sincerely believe others to be his-her family who are worthy of all the chances and opportunities their talents and efforts might yield. |
Yukio
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Elder ABM, I must ask, are you talking about yourself? LOL! |
Enchanted
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One damn things for sure we havent seen an attack on W.E.B. Dubois like this since guess who called him a colorstruck pig? so Im convinced that Tonya is Kola and that they both need help being flushed down the toilet. LOL!  |
Enchanted
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Should there be a moratorium on attacking black leaders for past mistakes when those leaders have been dead for more than half a century Do we really need to lynch W.E.B. DuBois, Martin Luther King, Frederick Douglass and every other black leader just because they made a mistake of some kind before most of us were even born? |
Yukio
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DuBois may have been a colorist, but I don't know if he was colorstruck! He used colorist language in his retorts to Garvey, but so did Garvey use colorist attacks...Much of their exchange included insightful analysis but so much more ad hominem on both their part... |
Tonya
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I didn't say that he did not believe in giving back, giving to the poor and all of those wonderful things. He saw himself altogether different from most Blacks, imo. And perhaps I am putting the emphasis on color. But remember, it was the color of one's skin that awarded Blacks the advantages of class in those days (much like the present). |
Yukio
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Ok. I misunderstood, Tanya. You stated:
He COULD NOT have believed the black elite would come back to save their black brethrens. He did not HIMSELF feel obligated to black folks, *I* don't believe that.
I focused on the words [phrases]: save their brethrens...he did not HIMSELF...
These are untruths. So that was what I was responding to. he was so obligated that he spent the MAJORITY of his life working to change the life chances of black people.
Ok. He did see himself different from other blacks, but also whites, when I say he was an elitist, we wasn't talkin about color. He was talking about intellectual acumen, education, social practices, etc...
NO, color did not award you the advantage of class...not at all. Class is deportment, education, etc....not color...color will get you a job but it aint gonna get you a class pass...color was often an indicator of class, but if you didn't have the language, deportment, travel experience, etc...your color meant nothing among the black elite. |
Tonya
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Saving your brethrens and giving back to the poor are two VERY different things, imo. Giving back to the poor is a noble thing that one does for strangers. Saving your brethrens, however, is a responsibility that requires you to first acknowledge that those you're trying to "save" ARE in fact your brothers (or people), imo. |
Abm
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Yukio: "Elder ABM, I must ask, are you talking about yourself? LOL!"
What YOU think, bruh?
Hahahahahaha!!!! |
Abm
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Enchanted,
When we attempt to assess the work and life a person, especially one who is dead, we should TRY to be as fair and impartial as we can be.
But no one - living, dying or dead - should be above reproach.
NO ONE! |
Enchanted
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LOL you dont have to scream Abm. |
Abm
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Enchanted,
I only did that because you often ack like you hard of hearing. |
Yukio
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tonya: Yes, I believe DuBOis saw other blacks as his brothers and sisters, but less educated, less cultured, etc...if you read his work, that is, books, fiction, poetry, Crisis articles, and assess his activities, how can you make the claim that he was not fighting on the behalf of black people?
ABM: LOL! LOL! I must admit, I too possess a minutia of elitism! |
Abm
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Yukio,
How much is a minutia these days?
THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS much?
Hahahahaha!!! |
Yukio
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Damn, u aint gotta shout a n&gga out! |
Tonya
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Damn, Abm, you fucked up the thread with your bold letters, man.
Yukio, you keep trying to put words in my mouth. Where did I say he didn't fight for black people??
Virtually all black people were less educated, less cultured, ect.... That was a MAJOR part of what black culture was back then. Some may think it "a minutia" but it was the real deal, you can't overlook it. And Dubois thought that this culture--Black culture--was weird and backwards! He was a racist AND he was an elitist... since you brought it up. |
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Dubois was racist? |
Enchanted
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OK shes even worse than "****" attack on the poor man last year how was WEB Dubois a racist somebody?
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Abm
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Tonya,
I'm just trying to learn to do some of the nonsense you, Kola and others be doing here, babe. |
Tonya
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Ummmm, why... since you think it's "nonsense"?? *Rollin’ eyes* |
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tonya: if i was to put something in your mouth....it wouldn't be words! LOL! jus flirtin!
Being an elitist, like ABM is and I am, to a smal degree, LOL), dont make you a racist!
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Tonya
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Btw Abm…
There’s a reason for my bold letters:
I’m a woman... so when fighting a man, I’m getting out the hot grease & frying pan...OR...the BIG BOLD LETTERS.
Likewise, I’m not a writer.... When debating well established, professional writers...I’m gettin' out the BB Letters as well.
Call it "dirty." Or even call it "nonsense." Me - I call it "fair and square." |
Tonya
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Yukio, there you go again putting words in my mouth!
"Being an elitist... dont make you a racist!"
Who said it does!? |
Tonya
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"tonya: if i was to put something in your mouth....it wouldn't be words! ..."
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
I JUST caught on to that, lol!!! NASTY!! ...aaahn, sort of (wink!).
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aaawwww shit now...LOL! I'm on my way to philly tonite! |
Cynique
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DuBois may not have been an elitist but he was certainly a male chauvinist. He stiffed fellow NAACP founder and dedicated activist Ida B. Wells out of any position of leadership in this organization, relegating her to the task of taking minutes at the meetings because he didn't think women should be included in the inner circle of decision-making. It should be remembered that at the time the NAACP was founded, women were also second-class citizens, not being able to vote or own property. |
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well cynique, he was both elitist and male chavinist, though I don't know about him preventing Ida B. Wells from any position of leadership, especially since he barely had one... |
Cynique
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OK, Yukio, let's just say that DuBois was not supportive of Ida B. Wells, reluctant to acknowledge how much she had to contribute to "The Cause". |
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