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Eastwest
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 05:43 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I came across a web site where People were
talking about the UGLY attitude's black females have.
Some of these people were White,others
were BLACK,a LOT of them were saying the,
SAME THING that Black women as a group have a
VERY UGLY personality problem.
I agree,I know VERY ATTRACTIVE black women
who have not gone through any of the
rejection BLACK WOMEN COMPLAIN ABOUT.
MOST OF THEM HAVE SERIOUSLY UGLY Attitudes
It's the pathetic attitude of Black AMERICAN
Women combined with the crusty ass weaves and
body weight problems that makes A LOT OF BLACK GUYS WANT TO DATE OUTSIDE THE RACE.

There are black men WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT
SKIN TONE OR HAIR TEXTURE.I know guys
who have NO PROBLEM DATING A DARK SKINNED FEMALE.
The funny thing is Many of these guys are Dating
out side the race. Why? A guy I work with
CAN'T STAND THE ATTITUDE A LOT OF BLACK AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE,He is dating a Black woman from South Africa.He tell's me HE WILL NEVER DATE AMERICAN BLACK Females.

I also hear this A LOT From guys,
who have been to Brazil.
Brazil has a BIG POPULATION OF BLACK PEOPLE
There are 80 million Blacks in Brazil,
many of them are DARK SKINNED.
Just about evey black guy I know
who has been to brazil,noticed HOW DIFFERENT BLACK WOMEN IN BRAZIL ARE from American black women.
Many of them have Manners,most of them have
a positive Attitude about them selves.
They are feminine and CARRY THEM SELVES
IN A MUCH MORE POSITIVE WAY than A LOT
of American Black Females.
These women face a lot of Discrimination.
MOST of them LIVE IN POVERTY.
Brazil is a VERY Color Struck country. Blacks in Brazil are considered to be the lowest in society
Yet Black Brazilian women do not have the
Shitty attitude that a lot of American Black females have.

I've had black women ask me why I do not
date American black females(my last girl friend
was East African)I TELL them the truth I don't
like WEAVES,or WIGS,I am not attracted to Bitter
jealous,hating females who like to Gossip.
I get Peace of mind and a drama free relationship with my Current Brazilian girl.
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Toubobie
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 06:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

May the force be with you, Eastwet.

Let's make a deal... you continue to date outside the race, giving these other women the grief men like you naturally induce, and we all will be the happier for it, ok? Problem solved.

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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 11:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

AMEN Toubobie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LiLi who is sick and tired of men like EastWest who dont know ALL Black women and lableing them all as he does in the above diatribe. In addtion its ludicrous to do the "all black women in a basket" peice as that sounds as ludicrous as white folks who follow black folks in a store or racial profile all black men. Just silly..take your azz and sit it down somewhere..
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Cynique
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Listen to LiLi rant! That's my girl. Love Ya. But, to me, Eastwest is the counterpart of black women who, for reasons of their own, condemn all black men and attack all light-skinned women.
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Misty
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yep eastwest and notice AMERICAN black women dont have NEARLY as many problems with sexism from their men as brazilian and african women do...so beleive me that the black american "ststatude" often comes in handy and keeps us from being walked all over.....SOMETIMES that attitude is VERY nessesary and comes in handy when used in the right way at the right time.

if you are too nice these men will treat you like shit just like the black women in africa and brazil are treated...or just like women in all other countries are treated.

while we battle our problems with sexism in america....they're nto nearly as bad as in othwer places
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 12:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Generalizations, generalizations. It's treading a slipper slope to generalize about 25 million black americans.
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Libralind2
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 01:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I hate it when black men keep making these tired azz excuses for why they date outside the race or in EastWest's case outside the country. FUCK YOU and your kind. Im tired of hearing my friends lament about the nigga who left them..for some stuipd azz reason. Weight, color, wigs, make up, education..you get my point. ALL WEAK AZZ EXCUSES. Figure out that shyet before you spend time with the woman. ON SIGHT you OUGHT to be able to get a sense of "hummm this could be someone I would like to get to know better OR NOT". In MANY cases that would be the same "light/dark skin woman with a wig/false hair, manicured, tight skirt woman" that you are now dogging. IF this woman I just described aint your type then why the fuck dont you "chase" "hit on" whatever, they TYPE of woman that floats your boat. This shyet aint rocket science shyet. BUT by all means STOP telling black women they aint worthy cause they AINT YOUR TYPE. That is like telling "your sister" "whew..I dont know how to say this so..I'll just say it. You aint good enough for NO ONE in this world". What kind of shyet is that..??
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh and by the way East...all the above was said in "sisterly" love..cause thats how I roll..my "brother".
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 01:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LiLi,

If a man (or woman) hates or reject the source of what he (or she) is, I don't really know why you should spend much time and effort trying to make them think and do different.

I often think Black women should try to ignore this non-Black women loving nikka so you avoid giving them anymore attention than they deserve and you avoid getting pulled down into some shyt they can used to make their fallacious arguments against you.
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Misty
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 01:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well cynique...its true that black american women have somewhat of a more bold "in your face" attitude than black women form other cultures and other races....the way we go about things is just different.

im not saying that this is true for all or most black american women...but its true for alot...and i agree cynique i dont like generalizations either because we dont know every single black american woman or man but some generalizations do hold a grain of truth. Although i dont agree that most black american women have the "attitude" thing....


but seriouslly....eastwest mentioned white people telling him about how horrible black womens attitude is...who are they to put any stock in as far as that goes...often when they accuse black women of having an "attitude" or a "chip on their shoulder"....they simply mean that that black woman didnt just bow down and put up with their racist bullshit....i KNOW this from experiences of my own....but a similar thing can be said about many black american men who complain about black womens attitudes.


but i will also say this, sometimes we can have those attitudes for no apparent reason...ive ran into enough of this from black american women before to know....but this isnt always the case.....I've been accused of this myself by whites who feel that i have a "chip" on my shoulder when its really that i didnt put up with their crap.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 02:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Misty Ive seen some pretty bold spicy African women especially from Ethiopia and West Africa and they will cut a man. I agree with your post and I have not had problems with black men only good experiences I don't know why, but I think black women internationally have this "thing" I see it in all of them.


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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think all opinions should be given sway on this board. Why should everybody be of the same mentality? It's interesting and stimulating to hear what others think and why they think it. And why should anyone repress their opinions if they feel like ranting? There are more people who read these posts than just the few little regulars who come here and many of us speak out not just to rebut opinions on this board but to get a point of view out there for the large audience of lurkers. So say whatever you feel like saying, LiLi. I appreciate your passion about this subject. Igbogal, for all of her obnoxiousess, brought out people's revulsion and resentment and spurred them to neutralize her and this is a good thing. Life is about confronting our adversaries, not shrinking into silence and temerity.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 02:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good for you, Misty! You defended your point of view.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 02:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

".......the counterpart of black women who, for reasons of their own, condemn all black men and attack all light-skinned women."

Good point Ms. Cynique. Your comment is irrefutable.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some of you Black women on this forum do have some CRAZY attitudes. I swear!!! LOL!!!

But seriously, I am a member of a couple of chambers of commerce and this past summer I volunteered to work a Texas statewide convention being hosted here in El Paso. I was situated where I could observe people get off of the elevators and walk over to the registration area. I think the attendees (or their organizations) paid around $500 each in order to attend the event because it was a three-day convention and many meals, special functions and seminars were included in that price. Anyway - ALL of the white and hispanic people would get off the elevators and simply walk over to the registration desk, being friendly and providing their information. Acting like normal business people.

However I observed several Black women - and it happened time and time again - get off the elevator, just stand there as if they were waiting for some sort of special treatment, or someone should come and greet them or whatever. And when they went to the registration desk they did have attitudes. It was as if they felt that because they paid the money that they were entitled to be catered to moreso than the other people who had also paid the same amount of money. Or that $500 was some sort of an exorbitant fee and they should be treated like royalty.

This was just one event but I've been in other situations where it was more of the same. So we Sisters do tend to have a chip on our shoulders. I don't know why. That's been my observation. Not all of us, but most of us definitely do seem to have low self-esteem/inferiority issues.

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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 02:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I agree with your post and I have not had problems with black men only good experiences I don't know why, but I think black women internationally have this "thing" I see it in all of them."

Good for you Enchanted. I'm glad you have had only positive experiences with black men. Unfortunately, there are many black women who have not. I can understand their frustration and disappointment with a number of very sad and pathetic brothers. As I have continually stated, I have no issues with condemning poor black male behavior. I only have problems when angry black women accuse all black men of bad and inexcusable behavior. All black men are not dogs nor do all black men disrespect and abuse black women. I'm a black man and I don't denigrate black women and neither do my black male friends. It's the group hate thing that is weak and diminishes an otherwise valid argument.


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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 02:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM..while I appreciate your view, this particular thread is a sore spot for me. Why you think I shouldnt comment is frankly..a mystery to me. East said what he had to say, I said what I have to say and check this out..I aint done AS I'm SURE East is not done spewing hate of "his sistahs"..... I really dont undestand where your coming from.. as in all due respect (and I do respect you), you comment on many threads on here..I comment on very few. Frankly, I dont think I spent that much time on this..YET, for you see there are to many of his kind (black women "haters") to ignore his words and thoughts and deeds.
LiLi all confused
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 03:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LiLi,

The ONLY reason fuhkers like Eastwest create these threads is provoke a bunch of attention of Black women they don't deserve and don't have enuff game to score any other way. They're like the stupid, ugly boys you knew in school know who would say and do nasty things to girls because the girls didn't like their a$$es. Eventually, the girls embarrass themselves reacting those lil nikkas nonsense.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 03:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with both LiLi and ABM. Very good posts guys! Not to seem partial but (including one other) they're the best on this sorry thread.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 03:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri, maybe those black women are so use to dealing with racism and unfair treatment that they were just waiting to see who was going to service them.......perhaps they felt that if they were a diffeerent race they would ahve gotten better service....i know what thats liek to feel that way.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 03:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

EASTWEST I NOW OFFICIALLY INDUCT YOU INTO THE TROLL HALL OF SHAME!!!
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 03:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Misty - You feel a certain way. And so you convey that in your behavior when you're out in public. And that's why people think that Black women have an attitude problem.

As I said above, many Black women seem to have an inferiority complex that manifests itself into them behaving as if they are "better" than others.

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Misty Ive seen some pretty bold spicy African women especially from Ethiopia and West Africa and they will cut a man. I agree with your post and I have not had problems with black men only good experiences I don't know why, but I think black women internationally have this "thing" I see it in all of them."


hhmmm...i really cant say ive seen this behavior from african women. they usually tend to be quiet and meek....as far as black men go well i have had good experiences jsut as i've had many bad experiences (even within my own family)...so i really cant say i havent had any bad experiences with black men....but i jsut dont think black american women have as many problems from black american men as women raised in africa or black women raised in latin countries have from their men.
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It's very presumptuous to say why guys like Eastwest or anybody else comes to this board. People come here for different reasons and who is to say what motivates them. Trying to dismiss them with a some trumped up rationale is a cop out. Puleeze. Rant on, Lili. LMAO.
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I am not even going to say anything to this stupid, plantation, Rupaul wannabe. He like is brother/alter ego Lil_ze don't deserve any real attention. WHAT A LOSER!! Heres another brotha who loves the the way non-black women "wiggle" the strap-on around in his ass.

Like you said ABM this brotha must be real unattractive. Because the only way he can get attention from Black women is to provoke an angry response from them.
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Mzuri, i will say this....some black people (not just black women) ARE too sensetive and do take it overboard....but then its understandable why they would feel that way....after you deal with so much it can make you kind of sensetive. its not an inferiority complex it just comes from having to put up with and deal with so much. I'm not the type thats overly sensetive all the time because i can discern rather the way im treated has to do with racism or not....some people do overreact though.



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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 03:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Misty - Thank you for sharing your observations




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How obvious can it be that the "modus operandi" on this board is to believe and validate the people you agree with and bad-mouth and dismiss those who you don't agree with. If "Eastwest" is a troll how does that make him any different from all of those trolls who you agree with, Serena? And how many times have you been called a troll??Folks need to tighten up their own games before pointing fingers at the authenticity of Eastwest. Jeeze.
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lol....thanks for the hug mzuri...that's cute


i'll have to find out how to post graphics on here too one day.



peace
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Yes, Misty, your simple honesty and lack of rancor always give weight to your words.
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Thanks cynique....i often enjoy reading what you have to say. :-)

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Image posting instructions can be seen here:

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/19503.html#POST78492

You'll need to read a couple of posts to get the entire process :-)
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ok....im kind of lazy and sluggish right now but ill read through it...lol

thanks :-)
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I swear, if I had a nickel every time I heard about the black woman "attitude", I could probably make Bill Gates my cleaning lady by now. *YAWN* Wake me up when you have newer, more interesting, enlightening shit about black folks.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 04:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fortified - You're always welcome to start an enlightening thread.
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snicker.
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Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thank You Tonya and Cynique
LiLi trying to come up out of her funk
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"This was just one event but I've been in other situations where it was more of the same. So we Sisters do tend to have a chip on our shoulders. I don't know why. That's been my observation. Not all of us, but most of us definitely do seem to have low self-esteem/inferiority issues."

Nice post Mzuri. I agree. I know it was a painful but very honest and candid admission. Everything you stated I have personally witnessed. I have also heard both black males and black females echo your exact words about this so-called negative and defensive hostile attitude of some black women. You spoke the truth. No doubt about it.

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What can be said for Black men who are in prison, don't work, killing eachother, and spreading H.I.V/A.I.D.S in the Black community?? If you ask me I would deal with a "bad attitude" than any of those things anyday!!
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LiLi,

If a man (or woman) hates or reject the source of what he (or she) is, I don't really know why you should spend much time and effort trying to make them think and do different.

I often think Black women should try to ignore this non-Black women loving nikka so you avoid giving them anymore attention than they deserve and you avoid getting pulled down into some shyt they can used to make their fallacious arguments against you.

Amen, ABM AMEN!!!!!!
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Thank you NTFS :-)
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Whenever people talk about what negative attitudes black women have, I always ask if they dealt with Jewish women.

Whatever generalizations made about sistas can be made about Jewish women-double time. They might not cut you with a knife, but they can sure cut you with a look or a word. The Jewish women I know do not suffer fools lightly and expect to be treated like princesses-by everyone, especially their men.
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white women will run over your ass and chop off your balls and eat them because they keep their anger in and let it build up so much....they will run over your ass with a car
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LMAO @ Misty!! Holla!
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"white women will run over your ass and chop off your balls and eat them because they keep their anger in and let it build up so much....they will run over your ass with a car"

Wow! That's scary! I'm glad black, Latina, Indian and Asian women, don't do that. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

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LOL...yeah, but its true.......that kind of stuff has been in the news quite often not too long ago from white women..

thank God that all black american women have is an attitude...lol
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Misty:"thank God that all black american women have is an attitude..."

LOL! Good one...

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Maybe we could conclude that women in general have mucho attitude, and this is because they always have to prove themselves.
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"Maybe we could conclude that women in general have mucho attitude, and this is because they always have to prove themselves."

Hmmmmmmm....Now that's a thought! Good one Ms. Cynique.

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NTFS--you need to chill sometimes, and stop inciting drama.
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"NTFS--you need to chill sometimes, and stop inciting drama."

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Don't even start.....
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Whatever it is, on average we take more than we dish out. Okay, I admit a few of us are doing more than our share of dishing out, but that makes up for all of the crap the rest of us regularly deflect with an
'em hmm'. I do think there is a need to specifically add dignity to the goals we pass down to our young women. Cuz lately . . .
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"Whatever it is, on average we take more than we dish out. Okay, I admit a few of us are doing more than our share of dishing out, but that makes up for all of the crap the rest of us regularly deflect with an
'em hmm'. I do think there is a need to specifically add dignity to the goals we pass down to our young women. Cuz lately . . . "




this is VERY very true....again it's a wonder we arent doing more than just having an attitude. Not saying the bad attitude against people who have done nothing to you is acceptable though. Still any white in our position would have done WAY more than just catch an attitude. There is a certain level of tolerance and patience that blacks tend to have over other groups (with the acception of asians who will put up with even more shit than black people)...... anyway, good points


the sad thing is though....black women have less tolerance when it comes to dealing with eachother than when it comes to dealing with ANYONE else...black womens worst enemies are often other black women in SO MANY cases.
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Misty wrote:

the sad thing is though....black women have less tolerance when it comes to dealing with eachother than when it comes to dealing with ANYONE else...black womens worst enemies are often other black women in SO MANY cases.

Here, here!



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Misty,

I don't think Asian Americans put up with more shyt than African Americans.

I don't believe THAT at all.
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I dont believe it either in fact I know shes wrong. LOL
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Enchanted,

Other than some stereotypical joking, Asians don't have to put up with much of ANY of the crap African Americans have to deal with.

Asians are NOT redlined out of jobs, contracts and loans as Blacks are. There's NO Driving While Asian.
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I wouldn't mind hopping in the sack with Nas. That's my attitude: the more sex with nikkas the better.
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not saying that asians have as many racial issues to deal with as blacks ...but asians DO take the most shit from white people without saying a word....as a group they tend to be complete conformists and even kiss asses (not all but most of them ive met have been this way). They also dont protest how they're portrayed in the media like black people do....they tend to be a very quiet group when it comes to the racism that's done to them.....they just laugh it off and dont say anything.....thats what i meant when i said they put up with more shit than blacks will.
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Ill never forget, this one asian guy my dad use to work with told him that since white people were the majority in this country then they're SUPPOSE to run it and be on top of everybody. So thats jsut the mentality alot of them have.
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Misty that is the truth!!! Who else is supposed to be on top but the majority? This is why I dont understand black people always expecting white people to treat them fair. You are not white dumb asses! You have to do for yourself and stop expecting them to carry your lazy black asses! That Asian man was 100% correct. The white people are right where they belong and when you get nerve to take over the country or mass produce black children like Mexicans do then you can say otherwise.
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Misty,

What you describe about Asians pales in comparison to what Blacks have endured here. Moreover, it's EASIER for Asians to conform and go along with Whites. Hell. Whites ALLOW them to do that.


Enchanted,

If most Black foks had your mentality we'd all still be sharecropping, picking cotton, cooning while laying awake at night praying for lightskindeded babies.
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As saying goes: "Majority rules". Law of nature. Nothing to do with race.



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Enchanted,

So then because there are more of them you should think and do whatever White foks dictate.

Right?
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No because there are more of them I have to do for myself, stay clear of their prejudice and not expect them to treat me as if I'm one of them. I dont whine because whites wont cast me in a movie or put me on a magazine cover and I dont call them White Supremacist when the fact is they are just being normal human beings to love their own race. Blacks need to do the same.
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Enchanted,

At THIS time in history, if White foks decided you shouldn't have gasoline, running water, electricity, food, mortgage, etc., you wouldn't have them babe. Dayam what your righteous sense independence tells you.

So while I appreciate your calls to Black independence, as long as this country (and world) is as it's currently constituted, Blacks will be compelled to make appeals of fairness and equality to Whites...to survive.
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Don't let the docile exterior of Asians fool you, Misty. Asians are considered the "model minorities" in the US - in other words, White America doesn't see them as a threat. Meanwhile, Asians are laying in the cut and, slowly but surely, beating the White man at his game. They're so subtle about it, it slips by unnoticed. But mark my words, in another 20 years or so, Asians will rule this mutha! As it stands today, the PARENT companies of many of the US Fortune 500 corporations are Japanese held and/or privately backed by wealthy Japanese investors; this is especially prevalent in the music industry. We all better start learning Japanese.

The cosmetic/beauty industry is being taken over by Koreans; not just hair extensions and such, but all the nail salons and day spas as well. The produce industry is being taken over by Koreans and Vietnamese. In NYC, you can't walk through any neighborhood, rich or poor, without there being a Chinese restaurant on every block. The Chinese are even buying up the pizzerias and McDonald's here. More and more Asians are coming out of Med School and Law School each year. The martial arts industry is big, big business in NY, NJ, and CT. I see Black, White, Latino - everything but Asian - kids riding the trains and buses and walking the streets in their ghees. I work with NYC Afterschool Programs and the BOE (Board of Education) is offering more and more contracts to martial arts schools to teach kids self-discipline and self-confidence via the principles of karate.

Private hospitals are springing up that are owned and operated by Asians. I'm seeing more Asian bus drivers, cops, postal workers, and transit workers than ever before. When I was a kid coming up in the 70s, an Asian holding any of the above positions was unheard of.

I'm serious, this generation better start learning Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese, etc, otherwise they won't be able to find gainful employment in this country within the next 20, 30 years.
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^^^^Real talk!! While black people are busy talking small minded shit and worrying about what whitey thinks and says, Asians are movin' on up.
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Enchanted,

"If most Black foks had your mentality we'd all still be sharecropping, picking cotton, cooning while laying awake at night praying for lightskindeded babies."

lmao!, yup
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“Misty that is the truth!!! Who else is supposed to be on top but the majority? This is why I dont understand black people always expecting white people to treat them fair. You are not white dumb asses! You have to do for yourself and stop expecting them to carry your lazy black asses! That Asian man was 100% correct. The white people are right where they belong and when you get nerve to take over the country or mass produce black children like Mexicans do then you can say otherwise.”


Um…nope….the dumbass mentality is the one who agrees that this country shouldn’t live up to it’s name which CLAIMS to stand for freedom and equality. And seriously enchanted…….how can you sit there and say that the people who BUILT this country don’t deserve equal treatment with the “white folks”????? Wasn’t it more of OUR men fighting in every american war that took place more than any other group???? And this is still true for today. Wasn’t it black people who were at the forefront of gaining rights for ALL minorities and even women? Isnt it OUR people who are paying the highest tax rates and get the least handout benefits in this country??? (and yes I have stats on this) .So seriously how can you sit there and say some craziness like that? This is just as much our country as it is anyone elses no matter who is at the top.

And don’t even get me started on the immigration laws and how they’re stacked up against black foreigners in order to ALLOW whites to maintain their majority status in this country.,,,and you mentioned Hispanics mass-producing babies????….um NO, that has even MORE to do with whites allowing illegal immigrants into this country for slave labor…..and now they are even starting to come down like a ton of bricks on Mexicans for that.


So would you tell the native Americans who were unjustly killed off of their own land that whites should run this country and that they shouldn’t ask for equal and fair treatment simply because whites beat out their ancestors long ago enough to become the majority in this country??????


Its easy to say what you just said since so many blacks have ALREADY lost their lives in this country to get us (you included) to the place where we are right now….so now things are more equal and more fair than they were during slavery….thank God for those blacks who died so you would be able to safely sit up in your house at your computer seat and tell people they don’t deserve equal treatment in this country. That mentality will undo centuries of our ancestors building….but im starting to hear more and more blacks claim what you just claimed and maybe this why race relations are actually starting to regress in this country.....thigs ahve been getting worst since the 90s.

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Don't let the docile exterior of Asians fool you, Misty. Asians are considered the "model minorities" in the US - in other words, White America doesn't see them as a threat. Meanwhile, Asians are laying in the cut and, slowly but surely, beating the White man at his game. They're so subtle about it, it slips by unnoticed. But mark my words, in another 20 years or so, Asians will rule this mutha! As it stands today, the.....................

Urban Scribe, your point is on the money!! I can personally vouch for every single thing you wrote. When it comes to Asians (especially the Chinese), no other race or group is more ambitious or can outwork these people -bar none! No fuckin' exceptions under any circumstances, any conditions or anywhere on the plant earth -PERIOD!!!!! I have lived and been in just about every Asian country and I can tell you first hand about their work ethic. When I lived in Japan, you could go to major cities like Tokyo, Shibuya, Ginza, Yokohama, etc.. and 8 pm or 9pm at night for many people was normal exiting hours from work. You would see kids coming from school (girls and boys in uniforms) and roaming around at the same hours! This was normal and common. When they get out of regular school they go directly to advanced study and tutoring academies. It was amazing.

I can speak for the Asians in San Diego -they are doing great!! Needless to say, as a group, they are at the top of their classes in high school and college. Physical sciences and mathematics seem to be their natural forte. And when it comes to businesses and owning homes, well, I'm sure you have heard -and it's all true! They dominate the PC computer businesses here. The owners are Vietnamese and Chinese whose parents could not speak one word of English thirty years ago when they came to America.

The Filipinos are extremely tight and they are very family and group orientated (something I greatly admire them for). Outside of the Philippines (which is poor country), I have never seen an impoverished Filipino family on welfare or living on the edge. They all own homes, businesses, work more than one job and their kids do very well in school. These people stick together like glue!!

The Vietnamese own just about every nail salon in the state. In fact, the California state test for license is given in Vietnamese -true story!! And as everyone knows, the Koreans have made billions selling wigs and weaves to black women. Don't get mad at me -it's true. All the wig and weave shops are Korean and 90% of their clients are black women. I SEE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY!!! Entrepreneurialship and hard work seems to be embedded in their genes. Sorry if that offends you, but that's the way I see it. I have personally seen nothing yet that contradicts such thinking.

One more thing, something else I greatly admire the Asians for. There is a large store called the 99 Ranch that I go to for certain things. It caters to Asian foods and such. One thing that I notice every time I go, is the family unity. When they shop, it's like a family affair. The children are crawling and hanging all over their fathers while the mothers are putting items in the shopping cart. This is very common for them. But as we all know, it ain't common for black folks. As a black man, it pains me deeply to see so many black women who are unmarried, have two, three, four,...., children and the fathers are no where to be found. Such a scene is virtually no-existent among Asians. You just don't see it. I'm not saying it does not exist period, but I have yet to personally see an unmarried Chinese, Japanese, Filipino or Vietnamese woman with multiple children on welfare. YOU JUST DON'T SEE IT. It's not part of their culture.

Anyway, you points are accurate and well made U_S. As I stated before, I can vouch for everything you said. And it didn't take four or five days for me to respond to something you posted!!!! See, there is hope.......

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And it didn't take four or five days for me to respond to something you posted!!!! See, there is hope.......

LOL! Happy New Year!

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Ntfs,

That's a good point you made about the family unity of Asians. I admire them for that. When they start a famiy business - they mean that shit! FAMILY.
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Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 10:34 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I always snicker at these tales of the intrepidly brilliant American Asian.

Admire Asians all you want. But remember that Asians (and other minorities who are NOT descendants of American Slavery) quite conveniently enjoy rights, freedoms and opportunities that AFRICAN AMERICANS were enslaved, raped, lynched, fought, burned, hosed, dog-bitten, redlined, bled and died for. I'd like to see them endure THAT kind of hell before I expend much consideration towards congratulating them.

The Native American was every bit as brave, noble, family-community oriented and religiously faithful as any people who've ever graced this continent. Yet we see what happened to THEM.

And if Asians families, businesses and communities are indeed so superior others, why did they have to flee Vietnam, Korea, the Phillipines, Japan and China for such greatness to manifest?
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Misty
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Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 11:23 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not only that ABM but the asians who come here are usually the ones who are ALREADY well off and had good education in their OWN countries.....not to mention when they want to start a business in the states, they're GIVEN 10,000 dollars.


not only that but money making is nothing when compared to integrity. yes asians may be slightly competing financially with whites but they allow their entire culture to be degraded as second class and to buy into the notion that whites are superior and should run this country.


no one in thier right mind would be agaisnt doing for yourself....that's a given and its common sense......but if you sale out to get where you are and become a culture of "kiss asses" you will always remain second to whites. Money isnt the only thing that buys equality....its all in the mentality.
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Tropical_storm
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Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 10:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But ABM, today's descendant's of American slavery also did not endure the kind of hell you described so what's their excuse?
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Tonya
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Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 10:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...They're CRAZY girl!

"...Increased exposure to minority status in the United States was associated with higher risks for psychiatric disorders among Black Caribbean immigrants, which possibly reflects increased societal stress and downward social mobility associated with being Black in America."


http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/20208.html?1168121937
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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 10:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tropical_storm,

We are a living result and consequence of Slavery, Jim Crow, Separate-but-Equal, Poll Tax, etc. The past does not just dissipate into the cosmic ether. Especially since are still many impediments to equality that are firmly enforced.

Hell. There are living African Americans who've actually SEEN their family and Black neighbors swing by the neck from trees. And a few of them ain't even old enuff to draw Social Security.

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